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HtownBrown88
02-24-2010, 01:53 AM
ive entered myself into a methadone clinic and i started dosing one day after tomorrow. now methadone has a very long half life so i have to be careful but can one bang htown with methadone in your system? because u cant mix suboxone at all and i was wondering if it had a compound that put u into withdraws like suboxone. but since methadone is an actual opiate maybe you could mix. thanks for straight up answers also wat is banging methadone like compared to dope is it straight? thanks again im new to this site but i was a long timer on totse. im glad to be here yall seem cool latr

BungHole
02-24-2010, 02:01 AM
If you like blocking the effects of your heroin for 24 hours, then redosing, expecting it to come on, but instead 24 hours go by and all of a sudden you OD.

Seriously though, I'm not trying to be a dick. If you don't want to quit, wait for the withdrawal to come back, then you'll be good, and you can BANG THAT DOPE!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

But if you've checked yourself into a clinic, you obviously want to/should quit, and therefore should just put the dope behind you.

You see, suboxone is a partial agonist, with a high affinity for the mu opioid receptor. At low doses, it acts as an agonist. But for some reason (I don't know why), when the opioid receptors become over activated, it becomes an antagonist. Although methadone doesn't do this, it does have a higher affinity than morphine analogues (like H), and therefore will block the effects. You wont withdrawal. But you see, when it wears of, the much more powerful opiates in your system will come on, and fuck you up tremendously. Just be patient.

Hydroponichronic
02-24-2010, 02:22 AM
Dude, to be taken seriously, you need to use proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling. Edit your posts to reflect that and you won't get called a troll.

BungHole
02-24-2010, 02:34 AM
Who me? Cause I thought he was a troll at first, then decided, whether he's a troll or not, I should go out of my way to write a post that might save a junkie or two.

iSocrates
02-24-2010, 03:23 AM
Using methadone and smack is fine, done it for ages. You will have drug tests and they will be pissed and possibly remove you from the clinic if you keep using. Just stick to eating 3-4 biscutts a day (120-160mg of methadone)

Hydroponichronic
02-24-2010, 03:35 AM
Who me? Cause I thought he was a troll at first, then decided, whether he's a troll or not, I should go out of my way to write a post that might save a junkie or two.

the OP.

Mr. White
02-24-2010, 03:36 AM
Who me? Cause I thought he was a troll at first, then decided, whether he's a troll or not, I should go out of my way to write a post that might save a junkie or two.

This is such a troll post..... He obviously meant the OP, as you can see from the shitty grammar and punctuation made by that mud farming git

BungHole
02-24-2010, 03:41 AM
No this is a troll post, below.

BungHole
02-24-2010, 03:42 AM
Hello. I'm studying the sleep patterns of Saturn. I have a few questions you should ask me. First, do you eat lasagna made with tire shreds? Second, do you use those plastic tits for recreation, or jogging purposes only? And finally, where's the meth?

BungHole
02-24-2010, 03:46 AM
Using methadone and smack is fine, done it for ages. You will have drug tests and they will be pissed and possibly remove you from the clinic if you keep using. Just stick to eating 3-4 biscutts a day (120-160mg of methadone)

I thought it would be dangerous. How much of each were you using?

iSocrates
02-24-2010, 04:07 AM
I thought it would be dangerous. How much of each were you using?

While I was on the clinic I was recieving daily doses of 120mg of methadone and I was using anywhere from .2-1.5 daily. You have plenty of wiggle room, tolerance permitted.

BungHole
02-24-2010, 04:25 AM
Did it weaken/extend the duration of the heroin? Maybe if you took more methadone it is dangerous? I guess that's good news though.:thumbsup:

iSocrates
02-24-2010, 04:55 AM
If you're taking more methadone, you'd already know the answer ;)
As far as weaken/extend, I didn't notice any difference in effects, after-all, I was nodding anyway :P

BungHole
02-24-2010, 05:14 AM
Yeah, luckily I only have light experience with opiates, the real fun part of my journey with opioids is ahead.:(:p

iSocrates
02-24-2010, 05:36 AM
Yeah, luckily I only have light experience with opiates, the real fun part of my journey with opioids is ahead.:(:p

Have "fun" with physical dependence, it's not where I want to be, but to each their own. Been on the methadone clinic for 3 years now and I can't go a single day without taking some sort of opiate, be it smack or otherwise.

BungHole
02-24-2010, 05:43 AM
Note the sad face. I only say it because, once you try it, if you like it, it's inevitable.

ilovechronic
02-24-2010, 05:54 AM
If you like blocking the effects of your heroin for 24 hours, then redosing, expecting it to come on, but instead 24 hours go by and all of a sudden you OD.

Seriously though, I'm not trying to be a dick. If you don't want to quit, wait for the withdrawal to come back, then you'll be good, and you can BANG THAT DOPE!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

But if you've checked yourself into a clinic, you obviously want to/should quit, and therefore should just put the dope behind you.

You see, suboxone is a partial agonist, with a high affinity for the mu opioid receptor. At low doses, it acts as an agonist. But for some reason (I don't know why), when the opioid receptors become over activated, it becomes an antagonist. Although methadone doesn't do this, it does have a higher affinity than morphine analogues (like H), and therefore will block the effects. You wont withdrawal. But you see, when it wears of, the much more powerful opiates in your system will come on, and fuck you up tremendously. Just be patient.


Methadone and heroin are both full agonists. I have used them together safely and got nice and high at like 30mgs of mdone and like .1 of blacktar. I WOULDNT reccomend it to a first time user. To an addict or dependant person? you can do whatever the fuck you want but just make sure you know what your getting into.

buprenorphine is a PARTIAL mu opioid agonist. That is why it blocks full agonists because it has antagonistic effects also. Fentanyl is the only full agonist that will over power bupe pretty much because it has a pretty strong affinity also.

Methadone does not actually block opiates in only saturates the receptors and activates them so much that your tolerance shoots up and a normal dose that used to get you high will no longer work.

There is such thing as a "blocking dose" though. A blocking dose is when they work you up to outrageously high doses to shoot your tolerance up so dope wont effect you, it also is such a large dose that it will saturate all your mu opioid receptor sites and basically wont allow other agonists to bind because it has such a long half life(and higher binding affinity) that it would stay binded for so long that the h would just run its course. The only time h wouldnt hae an effect is if your at a blocking dose level. IIRC a blocking dose starts at abou 75 mgs and they can work all the way up to like a half gram of mdone.If you are on a dose under 75 mgs then you could still get high on h, there would be plenty of receptor sites in that brain of yours.

it is not really a good idea though. Also you are playing with fire if you are on maintainance because methadone builds up in the system over time and that is how you end up oding.

When i did mdone and h I had only been using mdone illicitly for about a month and I worked my way up from 10mgs to 50mgs but I would do no more than 30mgs if I was doing h also.

Rizzo in a box
02-24-2010, 10:01 AM
Yeah, you totally can, but its kinda dangerous.

Clover
02-24-2010, 10:05 AM
Here's what will happen: You'll feel the rush for about 30 seconds as it goes through your body, and then will disappear. Waste of money.

not a troll account
02-24-2010, 04:19 PM
Yeah, luckily I only have light experience with opiates, the real fun part of my journey with opioids is ahead.:(:p

I've been using narcotics for years and they enhance my life without cravings or dependence. I seem to be a rare exception though due to my high level of self control. I've got friends who use them too, and they can blow through hundreds of dollars worth of them in a week.

Enjoy them, just be careful. Once you know what they're like you can't just forget the feeling, it'll always be there in your mind even years later.

BungHole
02-24-2010, 04:21 PM
Enjoy them, just be careful. Once you know what they're like you can't just forget the feeling, it'll always be there in your mind even years later.
QFT, I'm tryin' man.