I hate my guitar playing.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I am terrible, or at least I think I am. I've owned a guitar for a while and i can do some things on it but i've never been able to completely learn a song, I tend to quit most of the way through So i know a bunch of song fragments and stuff. I'm considering seeking a teacher but I really have no idea what to look for in a teacher of the instrument. Is there anyone here who is good and was trained by a good teacher? Any advice on what to seek in a teacher?

I would really like to get to a point where i'm comfortable enough with my playing to play with other musicians and maybe start a band or something for fun. I wanted to go professional at some point but at this rate I don't really see myself getting that great at least not by myself with no help.

[Human]

These should help (google-linked videos about guitar):

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2fkhryu

edit:

try these actually:

http://tinyurl.com/24otdw8

If you decide to see a teacher then try craigslist for good prices $$$

[cupdejoe]

I am terrible, or at least I think I am. I've owned a guitar for a while and i can do some things on it but i've never been able to completely learn a song, I tend to quit most of the way through So i know a bunch of song fragments and stuff. I'm considering seeking a teacher but I really have no idea what to look for in a teacher of the instrument. Is there anyone here who is good and was trained by a good teacher? Any advice on what to seek in a teacher?

I would really like to get to a point where i'm comfortable enough with my playing to play with other musicians and maybe start a band or something for fun. I wanted to go professional at some point but at this rate I don't really see myself getting that great at least not by myself with no help.

It really comes down to practice practice practice. No teacher can discipline you enough to do so.

[Marijuanasaurus]

want my advice? dont go to a teacher.

Theres nothing a teacher can teach you that you cant already learn on your own. And if you were really dedicated enough, youd be able to learn on your own.

[TruthWielder]

If you're under 18 I don't see why you don't have plenty of time to buckle the fuck down and learn.

I tried guitar for a year. I learn some chords, happy birthday, the star spangled banner, and some power rangers tunes. I also realized exactly what I would have to do in the way of practice and study and put it down for good. No big deal. It just takes work and passion.

On that note, the star spangled banner is really easy to learn. Try it.

[cupdejoe]

If you're under 18 I don't see why you don't have plenty of time to buckle the fuck down and learn.

I tried guitar for a year. I learn some chords, happy birthday, the star spangled banner, and some power rangers tunes. I also realized exactly what I would have to do in the way of practice and study and put it down for good. No big deal. It just takes work and passion.

On that note, the star spangled banner is really easy to learn. Try it.

Agree. Even if you're over eighteen. want it bad enough, get it. simple as that.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I'm 21. i've had a guitar for about 4 years, i've had an electric for about 3 of them. I studied classical guitar with a teacher for two years and go pretty good. I'm into really technical music so i tend to get discouraged because playing 18th-36th notes at 240 bpm is ridiculously hard to build up to. I spent a long time working on technique and stuff but it drives me crazy that I cannot get a certain level of clarity while still playing heavily distorted music. A lot of my favorite musicians play with way more distortion than I do but my playing sounds so sloppy. Is it studio editing or is it technique? I used to spend upwards of 2 hours a day playing. Now I spend like 30 minutes a day because I feel like no matter how much time I spend playing i don't really get any progress at all. Also I have no idea what I should be learning and I have no idea how techniques are supposed to be performed (which fingers are more ergonomically applicable to certain techniques etc).

I can play decently fast stuff but I just cannot stand it when notes bleed into one another and i'm really not sure if thats to be expected or if I can really get my playing to CD quality clarity, am i just obsessing of a level of perfection that cannot realistically be achieved or am I just not trying hard enough or practicing the right way to get the results that i want?

I'm not as bad as i'm making myself sound I can play a few things and i have a pretty strong ear when it comes to knowing where notes are on the neck but the level of skill I need to have to play what I like and where i'm at currently is a huge abyss that is horrifying. Technical death metal, progressive rock and all that stuff is so hard to play which is why i find myself discouraged. as far as other stuff I find it very boring to sit around and play things that I can nail without any effort.

[im taller than you]

It sucks dude, im at a similar level. I don't play my guitars out of boredom, like im tired of the sound or something. But we just need to have some willpower, cant get good without putting in the time. More time = better playing. As boring as it may be. :D

[Sleep Is A Curse]

Guitar playing is never boring. Its just that because i'm self taught on electric guitar I often nitpick my playing to death. I love really clean guitar playing, some players can get away with being sloppy (omar rodriguez-lopez, Hendrix etc) but it just doesn't work for me.

[Minotaur]

I'm into really technical music so i tend to get discouraged because playing 18th-36th notes at 240 bpm is ridiculously hard to build up to.



Honestly I've found that playing either 18th notes or 36th notes at any tempo is ridiculously hard to do.

[ergoat]

want my advice? dont go to a teacher.

Theres nothing a teacher can teach you that you cant already learn on your own. And if you were really dedicated enough, youd be able to learn on your own.

This. I had one or two guitar lessons ever. Now I teach guitar.

That said, the same approach doesn't work for everyone. If you lack dedication like you say, a teacher might give you more motivation. Still...

Guitar playing is never boring. Its just that because i'm self taught on electric guitar I often nitpick my playing to death. I love really clean guitar playing, some players can get away with being sloppy (omar rodriguez-lopez, Hendrix etc) but it just doesn't work for me.

That's because they're awesome players who could play really refined if they wanted to, but don't because it sounds better. That's my theory anyway, they know where the music is so they don't end up sounding like Steve Vai.

Just play more.

[Miluardo]

I'm 21. i've had a guitar for about 4 years, i've had an electric for about 3 of them. I studied classical guitar with a teacher for two years and go pretty good. I'm into really technical music so i tend to get discouraged because playing 18th-36th notes at 240 bpm is ridiculously hard to build up to. I spent a long time working on technique and stuff but it drives me crazy that I cannot get a certain level of clarity while still playing heavily distorted music. A lot of my favorite musicians play with way more distortion than I do but my playing sounds so sloppy. Is it studio editing or is it technique? I used to spend upwards of 2 hours a day playing. Now I spend like 30 minutes a day because I feel like no matter how much time I spend playing i don't really get any progress at all. Also I have no idea what I should be learning and I have no idea how techniques are supposed to be performed (which fingers are more ergonomically applicable to certain techniques etc).

I can play decently fast stuff but I just cannot stand it when notes bleed into one another and i'm really not sure if thats to be expected or if I can really get my playing to CD quality clarity, am i just obsessing of a level of perfection that cannot realistically be achieved or am I just not trying hard enough or practicing the right way to get the results that i want?

I'm not as bad as i'm making myself sound I can play a few things and i have a pretty strong ear when it comes to knowing where notes are on the neck but the level of skill I need to have to play what I like and where i'm at currently is a huge abyss that is horrifying. Technical death metal, progressive rock and all that stuff is so hard to play which is why i find myself discouraged. as far as other stuff I find it very boring to sit around and play things that I can nail without any effort.

Where do you live? We should start a black/death metal band. It'll be badass as fuck.

I am the exact opposite of you. My playing is sloppy. I like it sloppy though and don't improve on my clarity for some riffs. It depends on what I'm trying to convey.

OP: I was self taught, and found it very difficult to focus. What I'd do is listn to songs I liked while doing shit with my guitar around. I'd hear a riff I liked, then I'd look up the tabs, print them off, and learn as much of the song as possible.

Eventually you might find a reason to learn the rest of the song. Say if you had to play it for someone. What I would do is get really good at it so when I played it around other guitar players I felt superior.

That's certainly a very immature way of looking at it but it was all friendly. Mostly my best friend was learning guitar at the same time, so we'd always be playing different stuff we learned for each other. It's a good idea.

[Minotaur]

I am the exact opposite of you. My playing is sloppy. I like it sloppy though and don't improve on my clarity for some riffs. It depends on what I'm trying to convey.

To anyone with a trained ear you will only convey that you are a poor musician. Learn to play well, you'll thank yourself later. Technique is a means to accurately transpose the music from your mind to your instrument. Without a basic concept of rhythm and technique, you are doing nothing but limiting yourself.

[im taller than you]

To anyone with a trained ear you will only convey that you are a poor musician. Learn to play well, you'll thank yourself later. Technique is a means to accurately transpose the music from your mind to your instrument.

Jimmy page is pretty sloppy, and he sounds ace

[optl]

I'm a pretty serious guitar player. I play acoustic fingerstyle and occasionally get paid to play at local coffee shop type places. You have to find something to inspires you to play. I don't ever practice, but I do play the guitar a few hours a day. I spend a lot of time on youtube listening to jazz/blues guitar type stuff. IMO you need to find some sort of guitar music to focus on like Jazz, acoustic blues, electric blues, fingerstyle, etc.

[0omnidirectional]

I am terrible, or at least I think I am. I've owned a guitar for a while and i can do some things on it but i've never been able to completely learn a song, I tend to quit most of the way through So i know a bunch of song fragments and stuff. I'm considering seeking a teacher but I really have no idea what to look for in a teacher of the instrument. Is there anyone here who is good and was trained by a good teacher? Any advice on what to seek in a teacher?

I would really like to get to a point where i'm comfortable enough with my playing to play with other musicians and maybe start a band or something for fun. I wanted to go professional at some point but at this rate I don't really see myself getting that great at least not by myself with no help.

Why are you playing the guitar?

You don't need a paid teacher, and you don't need to learn other people's songs.

Seriously I would suggest learning a major scale in a couple of positions. Improve your technique by practicing various patterns. Then once your fingers are capable you can express yourself through sound. Improvised jamming is 100x better than just mechanically playing someone elses song.

If you want to play with other musicians, they are not going to want to just play other peoples songs, they're going to want to improvise and make a collective piece of expression. Once you are familiar with some scales and you have your technique to a point where you manifest to some degree the music in your soul with your body, you'll be an overall better musician and it will be far easier to learn other people's songs because you will have musical understanding.

Jamming man, that is where it is at.

[optl]

Why are you playing the guitar?

You don't need a paid teacher, and you don't need to learn other people's songs.

Seriously I would suggest learning a major scale in a couple of positions. Improve your technique by practicing various patterns. Then once your fingers are capable you can express yourself through sound. Improvised jamming is 100x better than just mechanically playing someone elses song.

If you want to play with other musicians, they are not going to want to just play other peoples songs, they're going to want to improvise and make a collective piece of expression. Once you are familiar with some scales and you have your technique to a point where you manifest to some degree the music in your soul with your body, you'll be an overall better musician and it will be far easier to learn other people's songs because you will have musical understanding.

Jamming man, that is where it is at.

If you want to be good you have to take licks, riffs, progressions, etc. from the greats. It's all about expanding on those things and making them your own. If you don't do that then you probably suck.

[FrY]

Plaaaay with your soul and not just with your hands!

[TruthWielder]

Jimmy page is pretty sloppy, and he sounds ace

Yeah, because he's Jimmy page. I don't think an amateur guitar player with any brains would try to compare themselves with Jimmy Page.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

yeah i've been really thinking about what sort of music is the most interesting and inspiring.

Death metal has always been a very intelllectual genre for me, the players are top-notch however I realy LOVE post-hardcore,progressive rock, hardcore, punk, etc.

Fall of troy, yes, king crimson, the mars volta, ELP, dillinger, etc.

and strangely enough my acoustic guitar playing seems like more convincing to people than my electric guitar playing, I think i want to emulate more acoustic playing on my electric through less distortion more chords and a fully sound rather than just flailing away at leads.

[Lord hang man]

want my advice? dont go to a teacher.

Theres nothing a teacher can teach you that you cant already learn on your own. And if you were really dedicated enough, youd be able to learn on your own.

This is simply not true. OP has already proven he lacks the determination to learn this way.

OP, you will be an exemplary guitarist, just do the right thing and go to a teacher. They will teach you about playing for meaning rather than accomplishment, for just one thing.

[bornkiller]

I would really like to get to a point where i'm comfortable enough with my playing to play with other musicians and maybe start a band or something for fun.Just start a band mang after all, you said it was gonna be for fun. You'll be amazed how much a reasonable bass player and drummer can bring out the best in your guitar playing....unless you really suck, then you might need that teacher.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

:P I don't suck that bad. I have a certain degree of aptitude i'm just not where I would like to be.

[RadicalApex]

Protip: Theory is key.

And if you just keep trying to learn songs you'll always suck IMO, anybody can repeat some shit other people made up or you can go out and learn how music works and make your own. Once you know theory anyway you'll know how to play every single song out there not just the ones you learned but anything you listen to or have sheet music for.

[Miluardo]

To anyone with a trained ear you will only convey that you are a poor musician. Learn to play well, you'll thank yourself later. Technique is a means to accurately transpose the music from your mind to your instrument. Without a basic concept of rhythm and technique, you are doing nothing but limiting yourself.

I disagree. To anyone with a trained ear they will notice what is sloppy and what is not. They will also notice that I CAN play without being really sloppy. I intentionally write music with really sloppy pieces. Not always of course, but I find it works extremely well in Black Metal(which I've been writing a lot of lately).

They aren't sloppy, but to give you an idea of how easy you could throw a little slop now and again. Just by making things slightly offbeat with the other instruments for small periods of time can make things sound really evil.


The video = mad lulz by the way if you think retarded style of dress are funny.

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[bornkiller]

:P I don't suck that bad. I have a certain degree of aptitude i'm just not where I would like to be.Do the band thing, you don't need to play to the public, just in a garage will be fine. Other band members are your best critics.
You'll also find in a band your confident levels improve which usually means your playing does as well. Plus that shits fun.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I know some basic theory,

I can identify most intervals, and I can find them on the guitar. I can play a few scales although the only one i remember right now is the Major.

I can play some intervals up and down the neck.

I'm looking for a teacher right now though, so I can get a little extra push in the direction I want to go.

Otherwise I'll just sit around in my room learning black sabbath grooves.

[FrY]

Dont worry about all the tech stuff, just play.

Im bringin you the real deal and not the dildo.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I often hear from people that I MUST learn songs or i'll never know how to write my own. This true?

[Bobweirsucks]

sounded like OP is having trouble playing fast. the one tool that is essential to playing fast, even, clean run is a metronome. start slow, then gradually up the tempo as you master the run on the various speeds. playing backwards then forwards helps so does playing it half as fast. even playing patterns helps, instead of playing 4 16th notes play a dotted eighth followed by a 16th note triplet. play the fast parts with that pattern then have the second note be the dotted eighth, then the third and so on. By the end of it you should have the lick down.

but yeah, most important part of learning how to play technical is to practice with a metronome, there is no other way.

[RadicalApex]

I often hear from people that I MUST learn songs or i'll never know how to write my own. This true?

I can only play a couple songs off the top of my head without music, but I have hours of my own shit recorded which is all improvisation and jam seshs with my friends, so I'd say not true. Its more about the way you learn I guess, with guitar you have to find what works for you and go with it. The more you play the easier and easier it gets. I'd start by learning all the chords and scales and build from there, that's what I did.

[D Toups]

A lot of people think its gay or pussy to learn how to read music, but learning musical theory is the best way to improve. Many people think it isn't worth it, but its the only way(in my opinion) to truly get good no matter what kind of music you play.

[007GoldenShower]

My guess is you're not interested in playing in jazz bands too soon so learning to read music isn't too essential, especially if you just want to play stuff like black sabbath and write your own songs. But key signatures, scales, modes, technique etc are things a teacher should explain face to face.

You could find someone who can show you how to play songs by your favourite bands/guitarists and then explain everything that goes into it just the way mine did.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I can read music and i know chord and scale formulas and such.

[Trix Are For Kids]

If you can't play clean quickly then just slow down the song. Try playing different variations. Songs don't need to be fast or even very complicated to sound good.

I'd take something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZo8vDbqJAc over something like Slayer or Metallica any day.

[Miluardo]

A lot of people think its gay or pussy to learn how to read music, but learning musical theory is the best way to improve. Many people think it isn't worth it, but its the only way(in my opinion) to truly get good no matter what kind of music you play.

Who the fuck thinks it's pussy to read music?


..faggots do.

If you can't play clean quickly then just slow down the song. Try playing different variations. Songs don't need to be fast or even very complicated to sound good.

I'd take something like this: gZo8vDbqJAc over something like Slayer or Metallica any day.

and just post gZo8vDbqJAc inside the youtube brackets.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

Hey guys thanks for all the thoughtful advice! I really do appreciate it and i'm sure you can understand that being a musician is a very difficult thing because of how much introspection and honesty it requires to really accel at.

Because you guys have reinspired me I'll let you in on my plan.

Right now i'm in college and its finals week so i'm studying really hard AND i've decided to keep that momentum and apply it to my guitar during and after finals. That means technique practice (I have a folder full of guitar pro files devoted entirely to scales, chords and techniques for those of you interested ,) music theory practice (sitting down and learning a new scale and 5 chords within the scale, dictation practice courtesy of musictheory.net) and song practice. I'm going to slow it down and be a lot more patient with myself as a musician/person. I'm not on the level I want to be at but that doesn't mean I cannot.

I also plan to find a good teacher. I live in the tri-state area so I am sure I can find a great jazz teacher.

[Staples_AOK]

practice practice practice...

source: have been practicing for years

[Staples_AOK]

I live in the tri-state area as well! actually, in philadelphia, in college.

[FrY]

Play with the radio and learn to listen fast.

[thendoftheline]

I've been playing for about four years also. Sometimes I really like what I play.. and then other times I feel like I suck, and I can't hear what I liked in the same shit I was playing two days ago. I'm still just fucking around until I find something I like and then I build upon it. Nevertheless I just bought a USB mic, and I'm about to start recording. I'm excited to start working to find complementary pieces.. maybe fuck around while I mix them afterward.. try to incorporate some piano (whatever). I'm the type of person that is fueled by simple joys. Guitar is great for me in that way, as I love just messing with sounds. I have off days, but that's normally when I'll work on my singing.

The thing I got to work on the most is probably how I use my favorite chord all the time.. and I don't even know what it's called. (P.S. I still don't care)

[TheDarkRodent]

It really comes down to practice practice practice. No teacher can discipline you enough to do so.

^This but be careful what you practice. A more accurate and helpful statement would be, "Perfect practice makes perfect." but the discipline is a must and must come from you. If you start off with no lessons and develop bad techniques and habits those can become very difficult unlearn. The sooner you can hook up with a qualified music teacher who is proficient with the instrument of your choosing and who also has the gift of teaching the better the chance is that you will not develop bad habits in your technique that will bite you in the ass at some point when you develop into the intermediate or advance levels of your instrument. I am not, by any stretch of the imagination, a great musician. I played trumpet for about 10 years but have not played it on over 25 years. I have been playing bass for a bit over 2 1/2 years. For the first six months I took the self taught tab approach to learning songs. Then I started taking lessons from a really good working musician who plays guitar, piano, and bass that was about six months months from a masters degree in music arts or something like that. He was a great guy and a fantastic musician but he had the soul of a guitar player not of a bass player. Also he was a lousy teacher, those who can;t do teach and all that. Next I hooked up with an instructor that was a bass player through and through. But once more he was more of a doer than a teacher and he focused more on learning songs than on teaching music and technique.

For another six months I went back to "learning" on my own, put quite a few more songs into my repertoire and became even more of a "bass jukebox without growing as a musician. Finally, about 8 weeks ago I located an instructor who is not only an accomplished studio musician.

I take a 2 hour lesson from him every other week and after just he first lesson, based on him showing me things I was doing wrong in terms of my fret hand and my pluck hand techniques, noticed a significant improvement in my playing. He is teaching me a well balanced mixture of music theory, physical technique, all of the base scales, strengthening exercises, songs, and music terminology (important for communicating with other musicians in a commonly understood vernacular.)

So since you are not one of those rare and gifted people who can simply pick up an axe and make it wail like you were born to play my advice is to shop around and find good instructor. One who is both and accomplished musician and a great teacher that will give you a well balanced approach. This will maximize your potential to enjoy yourself on the guitar. Because the better you play the more you will enjoy it, the more you enjoy it the more you will practice, and the more you practice the better you will become. If you can lock into this "upward spiral" you will certainly become the best guitar player that you have the initial potential to achieve.

want my advice? dont go to a teacher.

Theres nothing a teacher can teach you that you cant already learn on your own. And if you were really dedicated enough, youd be able to learn on your own.

This is not really good advice unless you are a savant who can hear a song one time and reproduce it flawlessly. Unless you are just looking to learn enough to get by or entertain yourself a good instructor is a great idea. I know there are a great many "musicians" who don't or can't read music. However, learning music theory and the ability to read music will make a huge difference in your level of success when it comes to performing with other true musicians. Anyone who would argue against this either extremely gifted or does not have as much talent as the believe they do.

[Marijuanasaurus]

This is not really good advice unless you are a savant who can hear a song one time and reproduce it flawlessly. Unless you are just looking to learn enough to get by or entertain yourself a good instructor is a great idea. I know there are a great many "musicians" who don't or can't read music. However, learning music theory and the ability to read music will make a huge difference in your level of success when it comes to performing with other true musicians. Anyone who would argue against this either extremely gifted or does not have as much talent as the believe they do.

Well of course if you go into a professional music setting, you need an instructor, but I highly doubt this is the case, especially since its the guitar were talking about.

[TheDarkRodent]

Well of course if you go into a professional music setting, you need an instructor, but I highly doubt this is the case, especially since its the guitar were talking about.

I still respectfully disagree, at 48 years old I have no delusions that I would ever become a professional bassist. However I can easily see myself in two years time playing local clubs for beer money and a good time. If you want to play at even that level you have to be able to understand music and not just be a "jukebox" than can puke memorized chords and tabs. To be anything more than that "jukebox", unless you are truly gifted, a qualified instructor is essential IMO

[Staples_AOK]

it's all about playing what you want to play. i have been in a couple bands and love music a lot.. i even wrote a song for a totse member once

anyway yeah

it's all about doing you. and practice. practice. and put something more than that into it, please, because I do and it helps me. Put your heart into it.

[Bobweirsucks]

just for the record no matter how good you are you will still think you suck. i've been playing for over ten years and i have a bachelor or music in performance and i still suck balls

[bornkiller]

just for the record no matter how good you are you will still think you suck. i've been playing for over ten years and i have a bachelor or music in performance and i still suck balls
^This! I feel the same way, been playing guitar for years, I'm in a band that does small gigs in mainly local bars and shows. I think my guitaring sucks personally, anyways it pays I suppose.:(

[TheDarkRodent]

just for the record no matter how good you are you will still think you suck. i've been playing for over ten years and i have a bachelor or music in performance and i still suck balls

^QFT^

But there is a certain paradox to this in that if you enjoy yourself and entertain yourself no matter what then you are the best musician in the world.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

once again thanks for all the info guys! its encouraging.

[TruthWielder]

once again thanks for all the info guys! its encouraging.


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[Sleep Is A Curse]

YOu guys should check out "the principles of correct practice" by Jamie Andreas, its very good for people who don't find the guitar to be a physically intuitive instrument.

I've been implementing his exercises into my regime and my playing has become more fluid and less painful (on my joints).

[TheDarkRodent]

YOu guys should check out "the principles of correct practice" by Jamie Andreas, its very good for people who don't find the guitar to be a physically intuitive instrument.

I've been implementing his exercises into my regime and my playing has become more fluid and less painful (on my joints).

Can you provide a link to a site that we can get this from? Not asking for a warez source here but a legit source.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

http://www.guitarprinciples.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=725ea89eefdad16256f538529832dfaa

[AdamSmokesCrack]

18th-36th notes


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Technical death metal, progressive rock and all that stuff is so hard to play which is why i find myself discouraged

That's why it's considered impressive music. It requires skill.

as far as other stuff I find it very boring to sit around and play things that I can nail without any effort.

So practice more.

ultimate-guitar.com
Click "Lessons"
Read and play. It's really not as hard as you're making it out to be.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I meant 16th and 32th notes.

and not that hard? what sort of stuff do you play? I like to really get down to the science of playing. I'm really economizing all aspects of my playing these days so that I don't waste energy on unnecessary movements and stuff. Perhaps you're just naturally talented? I've had to really work hard to get this good and i'm not even all that great. So I do see it as difficult but enjoyable.

[AdamSmokesCrack]

I meant 16th and 32th notes.

and not that hard? what sort of stuff do you play? I like to really get down to the science of playing. I'm really economizing all aspects of my playing these days so that I don't waste energy on unnecessary movements and stuff. Perhaps you're just naturally talented? I've had to really work hard to get this good and i'm not even all that great. So I do see it as difficult but enjoyable.

I'm not naturally talented at anything outside the bedroom.
Guitar was horrible for me to learn, and I wouldn't play in front of anyone for the first few years I played. I'd record a video of me riffing, watch it, and be disgusted.
Just practice everyday and eventually it will come.
And I play riffy technical metal, but I can play any Crimson Armada or Oh, Sleeper song. I also like Psyopus for practicing to.
My style is... weird. I'll pm you if I ever get a video up.

[bornkiller]

I'm not naturally talented at anything outside the bedroom.Thats what they all say:rolleyes:


I'd record a video of me riffing, watch it, and be disgusted.

Hurry up & post that link...I'd doubt I'd be disgusted. Heard some good fuckin talent from zoklet:thumbsup:

[AdamSmokesCrack]

Thats what they all say:rolleyes:


Hurry up & post that link...I'd doubt I'd be disgusted. Heard some good fuckin talent from zoklet:thumbsup:

It's been deleted for about a year, now. :thumbsup:

[Sleep Is A Curse]

Yeah you like a lot of that hardcore (genre) mixed with metal. some of it is pretty cool. Right nwo i'm learning some ARsis off of their first album. i can play the song cleanly at half speed and sloppily at 75% speed. also learning a classical violin etude on guitar as well by Wieniawski. I'm a neat freak when it comes to my playing so my progress is tortoise slow but i cannot stand unclean playing from myself. I cringe whenever i hear someone playing sloppily.

With time i'm feeling a lot more relaxed with my instrument in hand. I've been working on relaxing while still maintaining speed. ideally I want it to feel lik ei'm not even playing at some point. I'm naturally a really spastic person which doesn't lend itself ot guitar playing. I'm learning to just chill out and play with minimum energy for the maximum effect.

[AdamSmokesCrack]

Yeah you like a lot of that hardcore (genre) mixed with metal. some of it is pretty cool. Right nwo i'm learning some ARsis off of their first album

Learn Overthrown and you'll be my fucking hero. Then again most, if not all, Arsis songs are awesome. At least on guitar.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

I only like the first arsis album. Everything after that I think is a little cheesy.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

Update.

I have found a teacher and I've discussed what I would like to do on the guitar. He was pretty honest and said that he couldn't bring me exactly to the level I seek but that when I get to a certain level he'll gladly point me in the direction of someone who can give me the extra push to that really advanced level that I want. He studied under larry Coryell (if you don't know who larry coryell is, shame on you!) Right now I'm going back and learning all the chords and the scales. I know how to construct them using music theory but he says its important to really know the chords and scales and not just construct them, especially if i want to play jazz/fusion sort of stuff somewhere down the line.

It was only our first meeting but he was pretty cool and i'm excited to finally have a teacher that might be able to assist me in getting where I want to go.

[Generic Box Of Cookies]

Guitar is fun! Treat it like that, instead of like a duty or something. Also listen to hardcore shredding while you sleep. Will help you absorb it through osmosis. Maybe at the expense of other skills you try to learn. You don't need social skills or a grip on reality to be a good guitarist.

Fingers discaprined. Mind a frow rike diarrhea.

To be good at something is to make a sacrifice.