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IDONTSLEEP
02-25-2009, 10:01 PM
Hey,
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with Phenylephrine?, I've already UTFSE so no prevail.
SWIM acquired some and wants to know if there is a potential for a synch to E.
alex333
02-25-2009, 10:05 PM
im guessing just about everybody has had experience with it, seeing as its one of the main ingredients in most OTC cold/sinus/other meds.
Hydroponichronic
02-25-2009, 10:14 PM
Hey,
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with Phenylephrine?, I've already UTFSE so no prevail.
SWIM acquired some and wants to know if there is a potential for a synch to E.
Well, assuming your not a troll (naive of me), there's no good way to make it E. Matter of fact, there's not even close of a good way to make E out of it. Take a look at the molecules. You might be able to make something recreational if you methylated the phenol and reduced away the B-hydroxy (or maybe oxidized to the ketone, if you're lazy), but probably not.
IDONTSLEEP
02-25-2009, 10:43 PM
Well, assuming your not a troll (naive of me), there's no good way to make it E. Matter of fact, there's not even close of a good way to make E out of it. Take a look at the molecules. You might be able to make something recreational if you methylated the phenol and reduced away the B-hydroxy (or maybe oxidized to the ketone, if you're lazy), but probably not.
Thank you sir ;)
Hydroponichronic
02-26-2009, 02:24 AM
Thank you sir ;)
Believe it or not, there was a time when I didn't know the ropes, and as such I asked questions that made people think I was a troll. I also had a different alias then, which will go undeclared, but it all comes down to reading for hundreds and hundreds of hours on organic chem and the like. I wished someone could have spoon-fed me how to cook teh mefs and such, but it can't happen. Someone who knows nothing (or not enough) will always find a way to screw up even the most simple procedure. I could rant on, but I won't.
Anywho...
GL/HF :cool:
fcknut
02-26-2009, 09:13 AM
Well, assuming your not a troll (naive of me), there's no good way to make it E. Matter of fact, there's not even close of a good way to make E out of it. Take a look at the molecules. You might be able to make something recreational if you methylated the phenol and reduced away the B-hydroxy (or maybe oxidized to the ketone, if you're lazy), but probably not.
Well... You could oxidise the alcohol, allowing deprotonation at the alpha position. Methylation of the enolate then reduction of the ketone with something pokey would get you down to meta-hydroxy mef. Dunno if that'll do anything to those receptors, but maybe...
nshanin
02-28-2009, 12:59 AM
Well... You could oxidise the alcohol, allowing deprotonation at the alpha position. Methylation of the enolate then reduction of the ketone with something pokey would get you down to meta-hydroxy mef. Dunno if that'll do anything to those receptors, but maybe...
Meta-methoxy perhaps, but m-hydroxy alone is useless in the amphetamines AFAIK.
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