View Full Version : Processing: How many of you guys carry scales or weight your purchase?
CountBlah
09-08-2010, 05:43 PM
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Fractals
09-08-2010, 05:49 PM
I never weigh stuff in front of a dealer, but I usually weigh bags after I buy them, unless I trust the dealer. If it's short, I'll call them back and tell them exactly how much it weighed. No body's ever sold me a short bag more than once, and I've always gotten it fixed in the end.
komokazi
09-08-2010, 05:53 PM
I never weigh in front of a dealer myself as well, but once I started to doubt a friend of mine giving me short bags and one day I bought a scale unto his knowledge and he came by and gave me the bag and bam I busted out the scale and sure enough... wasn't much, so I played dumb and he got it fixed and ever since then no problems.
When there's opportunity in the drug game, best believe people will take advantage.
When I used to smoke I would bring a scale. When I sold I weighed everything out perfect. When I sold pills I made sure to give out clear instructions on the dosage to get high Based on body weight if the customer wanted. I believe honesty in drug dealing gives you a better reputation and more repeat business.
Mr.Happy
09-08-2010, 05:58 PM
I won't weigh shit in front of dealers, but I'll weigh what I've bought when I get home. If it's weed, I don't mind a bit of a short bag as long as it's decent quality (what's sold as an eighth is rarely 3.5), but if it's too light I just won't go to the dealer again. I'll weigh powder/crystal too and I'm much more picky about them; I hate getting shorted on a gram. I've got a 2dp scale, which is handy. Anything above .94 is fine because I assume most dealers use 1dp scales; anything below and I can only assume it's deliberate.
I wouldn't bother saying anything to a dealer; what do you gain? Unless it's a mate, they're hardly going to refund you or make up the difference, and if your mate is shorting you, you have bad judgement in friends. I just make a mental note and avoid the dealer, since I'd rather go without drugs than pay good money to a guy who's ripping me off.
When I used to smoke I would bring a scale. When I sold I weighed everything out perfect. When I sold pills I made sure to give out clear instructions on the dosage to get high Based on body weight if the customer wanted. I believe honesty in drug dealing gives you a better reputation and more repeat business.
I did the same when I sold, although I kept my selling within a circle of friends and acquaintances so I had less to gain. I know (knew) a few dealers like that, and you're right, they'd always be the go-to guys unless they were sold out.
virgil caine
09-08-2010, 06:03 PM
ill weigh them and when pepole give me shit i tell them i have a fucking calibration weight my scale is correct and that their scale is off and i want my extra fucking weed when they try to screw me.
Fractals
09-08-2010, 06:05 PM
I wouldn't bother saying anything to a dealer; what do you gain? Unless it's a mate, they're hardly going to refund you or make up the difference, and if your mate is shorting you, you have bad judgement in friends. I just make a mental note and avoid the dealer, since I'd rather go without drugs than pay good money to a guy who's ripping me off.
Every time I've called a dealer about a short bag they've either told me to meet them somewhere to get some more bud or promised (and came through) to give me the rest next time I get a sack. There's nothing wrong with weighing out that second bag in front of them. If they used a scale, they know how much it weighed. When you call them saying exactly how much it weighed, they know you're not bullshitting and actually have a scale. Every time I've called a dealer they started apologizing right away, but still acting like it was a mistake.
A customer you can't rip off is still better than no customer at all.
Twin Gats
09-08-2010, 06:06 PM
the family i buy weed from is involved with a criminal gang
so i really dont test them, i just get the weed and get the fuck out of there
Fractals
09-08-2010, 06:07 PM
ill weigh them and when pepole give me shit i tell them i have a fucking calibration weight my scale is correct and that their scale is off and i want my extra fucking weed when they try to screw me.
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Fractals
09-08-2010, 06:09 PM
the family i buy weed from is involved with a criminal gang
so i really dont test them, i just get the weed and get the fuck out of there
wtf r they going to do? the worst is scare you a little bit... they don't want to lose a customer, but maybe they'll keep shorting you no matter what
Mr.Happy
09-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Every time I've called a dealer about a short bag they've either told me to meet them somewhere to get some more bud or promised (and came through) to give me the rest next time I get a sack. There's nothing wrong with weighing out that second bag in front of them. If they used a scale, they know how much it weighed. When you call them saying exactly how much it weighed, they know you're not bullshitting and actually have a scale. Every time I've called a dealer they started apologizing right away, but still acting like it was a mistake.
A customer you can't rip off is still better than no customer at all.
Heh, that's odd. When it has come up (with mates, not just with me), the standard answer tends to be "that's just how big my draws are"... dealers are very cavalier about measurements. The size of an 'eighth' bag around here has diminished over time; maybe I just don't know the right kind of dealers, but when I'm not picking up off mates their attitude just tends to be "well fuck off then" because weed sells so fast. I watched a guy weigh out a three-gram eighth with a mate, and when we said something about it (not in an angry way or anything), he just said "yeah that's standard now" and bagged it up. Thing is, he's right; a full 3.5 draw is the exception, not the rule.
Do you buy in grams?
yawanur
09-08-2010, 06:18 PM
I do weigh them, and only confront if it's consistent or significant. Cannabis is a cheap, silly drug and I've never had any response but 'oh my bad, ill make it up next time'
because seriously, show some damn respect
Fractals
09-08-2010, 06:20 PM
Heh, that's odd. When it has come up (with mates, not just with me), the standard answer tends to be "that's just how big my draws are"... dealers are very cavalier about measurements. The size of an 'eighth' bag around here has diminished over time; maybe I just don't know the right kind of dealers, but when I'm not picking up off mates their attitude just tends to be "well fuck off then" because weed sells so fast. I watched a guy weigh out a three-gram eighth with a mate, and when we said something about it (not in an angry way or anything), he just said "yeah that's standard now" and bagged it up. Thing is, he's right; a full 3.5 draw is the exception, not the rule.
Do you buy in grams?
I buy in grams and 8ths, which are 1.0g and 3.5g. In high school a lot of people got away with .8g grams and 3.0g 8ths, but now it's considered pretty disrespectful. Respect is pretty big around here. Maybe you just need to move?
Mr.Happy
09-08-2010, 06:24 PM
Perhaps I do. Lack of respect is equally big around here, unless you're buying and selling within friend circles.
Dark Lord
09-08-2010, 06:35 PM
Heh, that's odd. When it has come up (with mates, not just with me), the standard answer tends to be "that's just how big my draws are"... dealers are very cavalier about measurements. The size of an 'eighth' bag around here has diminished over time; maybe I just don't know the right kind of dealers, but when I'm not picking up off mates their attitude just tends to be "well fuck off then" because weed sells so fast. I watched a guy weigh out a three-gram eighth with a mate, and when we said something about it (not in an angry way or anything), he just said "yeah that's standard now" and bagged it up. Thing is, he's right; a full 3.5 draw is the exception, not the rule.
Do you buy in grams?
This indeed. Apperently all dealers now think like that around here. That's why i stopped buying weed.
Fractals
09-08-2010, 06:37 PM
Damn, if I lived there I'd move or grow my own.
tariel
09-08-2010, 06:47 PM
Anything over an 1/8th and ill take scales.
Not taking scales when buying anything over a half ounce is pretty stupid.
I've had friends get ripped off by 5 grams before when buying an ounce.
However, if you then get caught with the weed and the scales your looking at intent to distribute.
DJ Meaty Cheeks
09-08-2010, 10:19 PM
Sometimes I weigh, just out of boredom though or fuck because I just like weighing out drugs, because my #1 nigga always comes in full weight.
Asheville
09-09-2010, 01:23 AM
Heh, that's odd. When it has come up (with mates, not just with me), the standard answer tends to be "that's just how big my draws are"... dealers are very cavalier about measurements. The size of an 'eighth' bag around here has diminished over time; maybe I just don't know the right kind of dealers, but when I'm not picking up off mates their attitude just tends to be "well fuck off then" because weed sells so fast. I watched a guy weigh out a three-gram eighth with a mate, and when we said something about it (not in an angry way or anything), he just said "yeah that's standard now" and bagged it up. Thing is, he's right; a full 3.5 draw is the exception, not the rule.
Do you buy in grams?
I would've shot that fucker
eighth is 1/8th oz, not 3 grams
zombo.com
09-09-2010, 04:23 AM
A professional weighs it in front of you, and if it's the first time, drops a nickle on the scale first.
That's not mistrust, that's respect.
if they don't weight it, have your postal scales handy, again, it's not mistrust, it's letting him know where you stand.
a person who i know for a fact doesn't weigh their shit is saying "i'll take whatever you give me and like it"
for the same reason that any time anyone hands you money, or turns over a cash drawer, or whatever, you count that shit, in front of the person handing it to you. that way there's never any question.
even if you watch them do a count, you double check the count as soon as it's handed over...it's just basic fucking etiquette
Marijuanasaurus
09-09-2010, 04:44 AM
It should be stoner habit to weigh your shit. Ive never had a problem with dealers cutting me short, especially when they know I have a scale.
TreyDay
09-09-2010, 05:52 PM
They usually charge for how much you want. Keepin it real professional, not no usually the eighth is $25 but I sell mine for $30 and I'll short the bag. They just charge for what you ask for.
Optionryder420
09-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Heh, that's odd. When it has come up (with mates, not just with me), the standard answer tends to be "that's just how big my draws are"... dealers are very cavalier about measurements. The size of an 'eighth' bag around here has diminished over time; maybe I just don't know the right kind of dealers, but when I'm not picking up off mates their attitude just tends to be "well fuck off then" because weed sells so fast. I watched a guy weigh out a three-gram eighth with a mate, and when we said something about it (not in an angry way or anything), he just said "yeah that's standard now" and bagged it up. Thing is, he's right; a full 3.5 draw is the exception, not the rule.
Do you buy in grams?
Damn dude, you have no balls.
I usually weigh when I get home, if it's short I don't buy again, no big deal. Even if it's short .1g. But I don't even remember the last time getting shorted.
If a dealer weighed something out in front of me and it was off then told me some bullshit, not only would I not buy from them, I'd probably just take what they were giving me. If they asked for money I'd say, "Yeah, that's standard now."
You're a pussy.
Mr.Happy
09-10-2010, 04:12 PM
Damn dude, you have no balls.
I usually weigh when I get home, if it's short I don't buy again, no big deal. Even if it's short .1g. But I don't even remember the last time getting shorted.
If a dealer weighed something out in front of me and it was off then told me some bullshit, not only would I not buy from them, I'd probably just take what they were giving me. If they asked for money I'd say, "Yeah, that's standard now."
You're a pussy.
Think what you want. Like I said, it genuinely is standard. If I bought an eighth from the ten nearest dealers 'round here, I doubt a single one would weigh in at 3.5g. You'd see draws closer to 2.5 than 3.5 a lot of the time.
zombo.com
09-10-2010, 07:31 PM
Think what you want. Like I said, it genuinely is standard. If I bought an eighth from the ten nearest dealers 'round here, I doubt a single one would weigh in at 3.5g. You'd see draws closer to 2.5 than 3.5 a lot of the time.
"it's the standard now" doesn't quite cut it when your arbitrarily reassigning actually standard weights.
and eighth is an eighth BECAUSE it ways 3.5 (an eighth of an ounce)
you can pretty it up however you want, but he's getting over on you.
A$AP Weed Smoker
09-10-2010, 07:40 PM
Ey bring a sceyl.
Trix Are For Kids
09-10-2010, 08:56 PM
I bring a scale with me wherever I go. (Which isn't very far.) There's nothing lower than ripping someone off in my opinion, and if you have to lie about amount instead of just upping the price a little bit that shows that I can't trust you. However, I will rarely call someone out on it. If I'm getting a good product and it's a good deal in the first place, It's probably going to be a fair deal even if you do get shorted. Not that that justifies it, but if it's a good deal it's a good deal.
Optionryder420
09-10-2010, 08:58 PM
Think what you want. Like I said, it genuinely is standard. If I bought an eighth from the ten nearest dealers 'round here, I doubt a single one would weigh in at 3.5g. You'd see draws closer to 2.5 than 3.5 a lot of the time.
Are you really that dense?
Like everyone else has mentioned, and eighth is an eighth because it is an eighth of an ounce.
28/8=3.5
So what you're saying is that you aren't just getting ripped off by one dealer, but all of them and they blatantly do it right in front of your face?
Like I said, you're a pussy. If you can't see how much bullshit that is, than I don't know how to get through to you.
Mr.Happy
09-10-2010, 09:26 PM
Heh, yeah, I can do the maths.
A few years ago, 3.5 was what you'd get in an eighth bag. The price of weed has risen for dealers now; to compensate, they either sell it on for £25/3.5 or £20/slightly less than 3.5. You could actually pinpoint how it happened; a while ago, a lot of particularly high-grade weed started going around. They'd sell it on for either more money or less in a bag, which wasn't a problem in the slightest because you'd still get higher than you would from a full eighth of normal-grade. Then the high-grade dried up and a lot of dealers went back to normal-grade using the same measurements. It's not ideal, but everybody I know is in the same situation and it's not like anybody's really bothered. Treat the word 'eighth' like the word '20 bag'. Maybe you'd handle it differently... maybe you'd say "no bitch, put in the extra .5g", and they'd laugh and tell you to fuck off, and you'd refuse to buy the weed, and you'd go to another dealer and buy a bag, and get home and find it was 3.0, and drive back with your Glock and your crew and demand your 0.5g... I'unno, I think you'd either end up taking what everybody gets when they buy a draw (if I call it a draw and not an eighth, does that remove your problem?) or just not buying weed.
FWIW, you don't get this problem with ounces, but the price of an oz has risen over the last couple of years.
Getting ripped off is relative, anyway. How much do you guys pay for weed? Better than 3g @ £20/$30?
47 47 47
09-10-2010, 09:29 PM
Treat the word 'eighth' like the word '20 bag'.
An 8th is 1/8th of a fucking ounce. It better be 3.5 or said dealer is a piece of shit and shouldn't be bought from.
Bong McPuffin
09-10-2010, 09:32 PM
I've never worried about weighing weed out, I can pretty much eyeball it, I don't care bout .1 .2 in either direction.
Powdered drugs BETTER weigh out exactly.
Mr.Happy
09-10-2010, 09:37 PM
An 8th is 1/8th of a fucking ounce. It better be 3.5 or said dealer is a piece of shit and shouldn't be bought from.
Alright, so say I ring a dealer and ask if he's got any weed. He says yes and asks how much I want. I say I want a draw, avoiding the use of the word eighth. He says sure. I go over there and hand over £20 for a 3.2g bag.
What then?
mental retard
09-10-2010, 09:41 PM
Powdered drugs BETTER weigh out exactly.
or niggas a get shot right bong?
Alright, so say I ring a dealer and ask if he's got any weed. He says yes and asks how much I want. I say I want a draw, avoiding the use of the word eighth. He says sure. I go over there and hand over £20 for a 3.2g bag.
What then?
whats a draw?
mr.blunt
09-10-2010, 09:48 PM
I hate people who fucking sell light bags purposely:mad: I mean the scales calibration could be off, but that happens to all of us.
This kid one time sold me a quarter, had the fucking nerve to charge me $50 for it which pissed me off so I just grabbed it and left without checking it out, and when I got home I weighed it out and it was fucking four grams. That's not a mistake, no fucking way.
So I called him up that weekend saying I needed more weed, went into his room and as he was getting the shit ready, I told him I left my wallet in the car. On my way out I jacked his sick bong off the living room table and left. Haven't talked to him since. Sold the bong for $50, bought a $40 quarter and smoked my buddies up all night.
Cloaked Dagger
09-10-2010, 09:57 PM
If possible I weigh all my shit. In front of them too if possible. As said, it's not mistrust it's letting them know where you stand. I try not to carry scales though because as said if you get caught with drugs and a scale you are going downtown on pos. with intent charges no matter the actual amount of drugs. A good dealer will weigh it in front of you without you having to even ask though good dealers seem to be few and far between.
Mr.Happy
09-10-2010, 10:02 PM
whats a draw?
Slang term, either for weed in any quantity ("get some draw in") or for an eighth/20 bag (nobody has ever defined it so precisely as to make either definition the definitively correct one).
You ask a dealer for a draw, you hand over a blue note (that's 20 squiddies), you get a bag of weed. The result is the exact same as if you'd said "can I get an eighth?", but no mention of specific weight is made.
Bong McPuffin
09-11-2010, 12:07 AM
or niggas a get shot right bong?
whats a draw?
No, but they lose my repeat business and anyone I can drag away from him as well for being a shady motherfucker.
Really Awesome Nickname
09-11-2010, 12:13 AM
never weight. only watch. If the bag looks like its gonna burst its good to go.
zombo.com
09-11-2010, 02:02 AM
Alright, so say I ring a dealer and ask if he's got any weed. He says yes and asks how much I want. I say I want a draw, avoiding the use of the word eighth. He says sure. I go over there and hand over £20 for a 3.2g bag.
What then?
if you're not buying by weight, then a 20 bag is whatever the fuckl he chooses to throw in. that then.
if you say "hey give me a bag" and he says, "you owe me 20 dollar"
then you've bought a 20 bag, not an eight.
which is why you buy by weight, both of you know what you're asking for.
buying by "i've got this much money" <shrug> it's fine between friends, but you're at the dealers mercy at that point.
Bobitis
09-11-2010, 05:19 PM
"it's the standard now" doesn't quite cut it when your arbitrarily reassigning actually standard weights.
and eighth is an eighth BECAUSE it ways 3.5 (an eighth of an ounce)
you can pretty it up however you want, but he's getting over on you.
Going from Mr Happy's slang and stuff I'ma guess he's from Southern England, or at least the UK in general. Sadly enough 99% of dealers will fuck you with their weights, half the kids who buy around here don't even associate the word 1/8th with a weight, they see it as £20 worth of weed.
I know of one dealer out of about 20 on my phone who will do a full 3.5g when you ask for an 1/8th. All the others will just take it as £20 and weigh out however much weed that comes to at their prices. And it varies, a lot, I've seen weights all the way down to 1.9g (not me, was one of those "OMG I GOT THE BEST WEED IN TOWN" friends who you love to prove wrong).
This annoys me to no end and yet has become so prevalent that half the time I will ask for an 1/8th knowing full well I'm really asking for £20 of weed which for me is at least always over 3g, a lot better than most people get. If I want a proper 1/8th I'll just phone up and ask how much they would charge for 3.5g, I wonder how many of the dealers themselves know that's what a full 1/8th is supposed to weigh.
:(
I don't have a scale and I know I've been shorted before. Now I only buy off dealers I know and trust.
I don't need to because I don't buy from the type of people who would rip me off like that. I do have a digital scale and a weight to check its accuracy with, but I really only ever use it when I am dividing up a purchase among friends, or want to check how many grams of mushrooms I am eating.
iMagiNation
09-11-2010, 07:17 PM
Most of my dealers weigh in front of me, and I don't really care if I'm getting skimped p1 anyway. Oh noes! They'll just blaze me out tomorrow, anyway.
Since I'm in cali, every other third friend is a weed dealer so I've got plenty of people to go to if one in particular isn't treatin' me good. And usually if I feel like prices are too high/sack too small I'll just say something and the next time I'll get kicked down more.
Now, when it comes to meth & heroin & shit...it's nothing but shady fucking trouble! Don't just bring a scale but bring a gun & a team of lawyers, too.
Fractals
09-11-2010, 10:01 PM
However, I will rarely call someone out on it. If I'm getting a good product and it's a good deal in the first place, It's probably going to be a fair deal even if you do get shorted. Not that that justifies it, but if it's a good deal it's a good deal.
pussy
Bong McPuffin
09-12-2010, 07:27 PM
The only scale I currently own I just made... its a microgram scale. It would look fucking ridiculous if I busted it out at a drug deal.
zombo.com
09-12-2010, 09:32 PM
you can get a set of postal scales for like 99 cents at staples.
Fractals
09-12-2010, 09:53 PM
you can get a set of postal scales for like 99 cents at staples.
or you can go to a headshop and pay $20-40 for one thats just as good! I :facepalm: whenever I find out someone bought their scale at a headshop, but I guess some people don't have to worry about an extra $20 or so. I'm not so lucky. :(
zombo.com
09-12-2010, 10:02 PM
or you can go to a headshop and pay $20-40 for one thats just as good! I :facepalm: whenever I find out someone bought their scale at a headshop, but I guess some people don't have to worry about an extra $20 or so. I'm not so lucky. :(
Not to mention kitchen scales for bigger stuff, i paid 20 dollars for one that goes down to grams and up to ten pounds.
Retard Synrdome
09-12-2010, 10:29 PM
You guys must have pretty shitty dealers.
I usually weigh before I purchase. But I recently sat on my scale so it's broken. :( There's a 20 year warranty though so I'll send it in soon for a new one. :D
Fractals
09-12-2010, 10:56 PM
Not to mention kitchen scales for bigger stuff, i paid 20 dollars for one that goes down to grams and up to ten pounds.
lol I went in the opposite direction and got a 0.001g to 10.0g scale for $30.
Mr.Happy
09-12-2010, 11:04 PM
lol I went in the opposite direction and got a 0.001g to 10.0g scale for $30.
No offence, but they don't make scales that precise and that cheap that don't suck.
Fractals
09-12-2010, 11:08 PM
I've used it for weed, coke (if my gram weighs <0.990g I'm saying something:mad:), 2ce, jwh-250, -018, -073, mephedrone, and mdpv. It was a good investment.
Fractals
09-12-2010, 11:10 PM
No offence, but they don't make scales that precise and that cheap that don't suck.
It does kind of suck, but once its reading above 50mg or so it starts getting pretty sensitive. If you're measuring out just a few mg, just put the 5g calibration weight on and ignore the number to the left of the '.', you're most likely not weighing out something over a gram anyway.
Mr.Happy
09-12-2010, 11:51 PM
^ that's my experience with small, cheap scales too. Unfortunately, I only need them for small doses. Sucks.
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