Why can't handguns be manufactured with rifled slugs?

[driveby]

If the slugs are rifled, and there is somewhat significant space between the projectile, and the barrel, would that reduce accuracy? I don't think so, since the rifling in the cartridge would give it the spin it would need. Since there would be space, carbon build-up wouldn't result in explosion risks using the firearm. I think it is a conspiracy, just like the prices of guns. If Hi Point can manufacture firearms for prices less then $200, anyone can. It is designed to decrease the likelyhood of minorities purchasing firearms.

[Craigslist.org]

Possibly with some sort of revolver but with an automatic it wouldnt fit in your hand.
The reason they dont make them is because there is no use for such a gun. :D

[driveby]

Uh... Why not? You seem to be implying the cartridges would be drastically wider, therefore making the pistol grip too fat. That would not be the case.

[Phinehas]

It is designed to decrease the likelyhood of minorities purchasing firearms.

Well, if that's the case I think it's great. Do we really need more minorities purchasing firearms? :rant:

[driveby]

Yes, we do. Your hatred of minorities is not rational, or practical in nature. I find the white race as being way more flawed. I used to hate blacks, due to my cultural heritage, however I realise I am in pretty much the same struggle, more so then those in my culture. I find the need for firearms imperative, due to constant threats to my, and other brown people's personal safety, due to the police department. I believe the use of firearms is a necessity, to prevent being kidnapped, and held hostage in a concrete cell by these uniformed criminals.

[Struwwelpeter]

God you are a cretin.

[driveby]

I hate niggers.

[The Savage]

^^^

Your hatred of minorities is not rational, or practical in nature. I find the white race as being way more flawed.

Do you stay awake at night thinking of ways to fail? or was your mother just a crack-whore? I bet that's why you hate blacks, mommy was always out sucking black cock for another hit of rock instead of giving you attention.

[ilovechronic]

Why would you want a smooth bore hand gun? A rifled barrel is much better than smooth bore with rifled slugs. Though, I know you "gangsters" dont care about accuracy,quality,reliability,etc.

[The Savage]

Because he be a hardcore gangsta yo! Mufafucken cops cant be trackin a homie down wif out rifleing!!!11!!

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Aren't the extraordinarily long barrells in some oldschool cowboy pistols rifled?

My guess why it's not present in all modern handguns is that because that barrel isn't long enough*, and partly because it's a moot point - Handguns are for medium range combat at best, and no matter how steady your natural aim they're going to greatly reduce accuracy at ranges longer than these.

*Getting back to this bit, the barrell being too short means you cans put enough rifling in it to make the bullet spin effectively without making the rifling so tight that the bullet plops out the end and lands at your feet in the best case sceanrio. It also means (and this is my main reasoning) that there's not enough room for the gases to build up to an appropriate force within the barrel worth a shit anyway.

Why the short barrell? Long barrells are impractical (and hard to conceal).


Those were my guesses.

[blue_monday]

Aren't the extraordinarily long barrells in some oldschool cowboy pistols rifled?

My guess why it's not present in all modern handguns is that because that barrel isn't long enough*, and partly because it's a moot point - Handguns are for medium range combat at best, and no matter how steady your natural aim they're going to greatly reduce accuracy at ranges longer than these.

*Getting back to this bit, the barrell being too short means you cans put enough rifling in it to make the bullet spin effectively without making the rifling so tight that the bullet plops out the end and lands at your feet in the best case sceanrio. It also means (and this is my main reasoning) that there's not enough room for the gases to build up to an appropriate force within the barrel worth a shit anyway.

Why the short barrell? Long barrells are impractical (and hard to conceal).


Those were my guesses.

Swing and a miss. All pistols are rifled, most that i know of have higher twists than a rifle with the same caliber

[Mephistos Minion]

The only pistols that are not rifled are flintlocks. You gotta be a real badass gangsta motherfucker to take cunts on with that.

Seriously though, I could make a rifling machine for short (sub 6") barells, and then buy a tungsten carbide rifling button and make rifled barells for SMP's pretty cheaply and easily.

The reason you can buy some pistols cheaper than others (hi-point vs Night Hawk for example) is because the materials and workmanship involved is far inferior. I would have thought this would be obvious.

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Swing and a miss. All pistols are rifled, most that i know of have higher twists than a rifle with the same caliber

Fuck I'm dumb, I really should have known that. Maybe I'll stick to my hunting rifles.

[Mephistos Minion]

Don't worry mate, we forgive you (we being Australians I am speaking for here) there is not enough opportunity for pistols here.

[puzld]

Seriously though, I could make a rifling machine for short (sub 6") barells, and then buy a tungsten carbide rifling button and make rifled barells for SMP's pretty cheaply and easily.

Could you post more info on this please? Like sources for the tools, etc.

[blue_monday]

Could you post more info on this please? Like sources for the tools, etc.

Yea, i've been wanting to learn how to do rifling too. That and how to make a good trigger.

[ilovechronic]

Aren't the extraordinarily long barrells in some oldschool cowboy pistols rifled?

My guess why it's not present in all modern handguns is that because that barrel isn't long enough*, and partly because it's a moot point - Handguns are for medium range combat at best, and no matter how steady your natural aim they're going to greatly reduce accuracy at ranges longer than these.

*Getting back to this bit, the barrell being too short means you cans put enough rifling in it to make the bullet spin effectively without making the rifling so tight that the bullet plops out the end and lands at your feet in the best case sceanrio. It also means (and this is my main reasoning) that there's not enough room for the gases to build up to an appropriate force within the barrel worth a shit anyway.

Why the short barrell? Long barrells are impractical (and hard to conceal).


Those were my guesses.

i believe that the colt cap n ball pistols are rifled. but there were alo smoothbore pistols before that. which was like a musket that was cut down.

[ilovechronic]

The only pistols that are not rifled are flintlocks. You gotta be a real badass gangsta motherfucker to take cunts on with that.

Seriously though, I could make a rifling machine for short (sub 6") barells, and then buy a tungsten carbide rifling button and make rifled barells for SMP's pretty cheaply and easily.

The reason you can buy some pistols cheaper than others (hi-point vs Night Hawk for example) is because the materials and workmanship involved is far inferior. I would have thought this would be obvious.

There are modern smoothbore handguns. The small deringers chambered in .410 are smoothbore. There are probably others.
or that 410 revolver is a smooth bore.
there were also smoothbore pistols made after the flintlocks. for ex:
US Haston
Midd tn
Conn 1849
69 cal. (smooth bore)
they were basicallyt redesigned flintlocks to use percussion caps instead.

[blue_monday]

There are modern smoothbore handguns. The small deringers chambered in .410 are smoothbore. There are probably others.
or that 410 revolver is a smooth bore.
there were also smoothbore pistols made after the flintlocks. for ex:
US Haston
Midd tn
Conn 1849
69 cal. (smooth bore)
they were basicallyt redesigned flintlocks to use percussion caps instead.

Actually 410 pistols are marketed as 410/45 colt and given a light, slowly twisted rifling to get around SBS laws. I've wanted to get one of those 410 revolvers since they came out and put choke tubes in it.

[Nelokjer]

Actually 410 pistols are marketed as 410/45 colt and given a light, slowly twisted rifling to get around SBS laws. I've wanted to get one of those 410 revolvers since they came out and put choke tubes in it.

Actually, smoothbore pistols are aow. Same cost to make, but $5 to transfer instead of $200 for SBS. Its only sbs if the sub 18" barrel is over 12". Under 12" barrel is considered a pistol (unless it has a shoulder stock, I think). Im rather interested to see how well one of those 10" judges would throw 000. In my mind, because they should be tight in the bore and take the spin, a shell loaded with 000 would be akin to as many pistol bullets fired at once. Anyone tried?

[Struwwelpeter]

Actually, quit bumping these old ass threads.

[ComradeAsh]

The only pistols that are not rifled are flintlocks. You gotta be a real badass gangsta motherfucker to take cunts on with that.

You'll open up someones chest with one of those.

[reggie_love]

Anyone tried?

Yup, 000 buck is a page or so in.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot41.htm

[Nelokjer]

Actually, quit bumping these old ass threads.

Lol, shit, I didnt even see the timestamp....