View Full Version : What do you think about the allocation of $ for mentally handicapped/gifted people?
t.o.t.s.e.
03-08-2009, 04:29 AM
/7/09
“Geniuses of America Need a Chance”
Reading an article was almost heartbreaking. I’ve always wanted to be regarded as the smartest person. In everything I do, I wish to be the best. I almost want to withdraw my wishes. Geniuses should be the most cherished aspects of American society. Well, they’re not. Eight billion dollars is spent on educating people who will never achieve greatness, but only eight hundred million dollars is spent on gifted people who can create the meaning of “greatness”.
I have no intention of being cruel or insensitive, but I don’t think that any money should be spent on the mentally retarded. I know this is quite a radical view, but I feel strongly about this. I know that we currently possess the technology to determine any problems with a child. For example, doctors are capable of determining if a child will have Down syndrome before the child is born. I think that there should be some sort of abortion law regarding “special people”. They truly are burdens to society. With the money spent on “educating” these people, we could put every gifted student into an institution which could give these people the education and challenge that they deserve. I realize that this may seem cruel, but this is the only apparent solution to our problem. If we would disallow people to give birth to mentally retarded children, there would be an abundance of money to spend on furthering the education of our gifted people. The potential that these gifted people have is absolutely unbelievable. The money that is put into educating these brilliant people can be considered an investment. Those types of people have such amazing problem solving skills that, if properly educated and challenged, they could find cures for AIDS, skin cancer, and even Down syndrome.
Gifted people deserve to be treated as gifted people. Whereas we look at retarded people as burdens to society, society is a burden to gifted people. We let them skate through life without being properly challenged. We need to be cherishing these gifted people as they are the most valuable people in the world. They should be given anything and everything they could ever wish to possess in the hopes that they’ll find it in their hearts to use their brains for our necessities. The gifted should be rewarded for any significant things they achieve. Gifted people deserve to be praised. Perhaps if people see how well gifted people will be treated, then they will want to study hard too. With seeing how gifted people will be treated, people will long to educate themselves as well so tat they too can be treated well.
Gifted people can help us if they’re given a chance. By cutting funding for the retarded people, we can spend money on gifted people who could potentially find cures for retardation. Technically it would help retarded people to suspend they’re funding. After all, by educating people who can’t really think, we may as well put the money in a massive bonfire. If we take the money from educating the people who can’t be educated, then we can spend money to better the American way of life.
Gifted people should be given every opportunity to thrive. By spending more money to found institutions for the gifted, we would see a major return. Think about gifted people as investments. If you feed the investment, you’ll gradually start seeing returns. You have to spend money to make it. If we spend less money on retarded people, and more money on gifted people, we would find that our society would flourish—especially during these dismal times.
Struwwelpeter
03-08-2009, 04:39 AM
I'm enthusiastic about any government program that diverts money away from non-whites and towards whites, so I support more allocation to the mentally gifted.
InspiredByMe
03-08-2009, 04:43 AM
I agree with every single word. But the problem is society is getting dumber every minute it seems.
Slave of the Beast
03-09-2009, 10:34 AM
Sounds like Eugenics.
HARDMAN
03-09-2009, 08:10 PM
I'm assuming "gifted" makes up a very small proportion of the human population.
So the fact that 1/8th of all education spending goes toward them (if this source is correct), I would hardly say they aren't getting their fair share.
reallystupidstuff
03-09-2009, 08:16 PM
If you really want to help gifted people, PM me and I will tell you where you can send a check.
skinny love
03-09-2009, 08:17 PM
"What do you think about the allocation of $ for mentally handicapped/gifted people?"
it's retarded.
t.o.t.s.e.
03-13-2009, 01:10 AM
"What do you think about the allocation of $ for mentally handicapped/gifted people?"
it's retarded.
Pun intended? Lmao
If you really want to help gifted people, PM me and I will tell you where you can send a check.
Charity ftw ;). The state nurturing of geniuses too often leads to them being used for destructive purposes.
I'm enthusiastic about any government program that diverts money away from non-whites and towards whites, so I support more allocation to the mentally gifted.
And Jews.
skinny love
03-13-2009, 02:07 AM
Charity ftw ;). The state nurturing of geniuses too often leads to them being used for destructive purposes.
for sure. einstein knew the bomb shouldn't be dropped.
Seitzy
03-13-2009, 02:09 AM
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Guffaw Muslim
03-13-2009, 05:22 AM
While yes, that may very well be a logical conclusion, how exactly would it be put into practice?
Who gets to decide which babys shall be born, and which not?
Who gets to decide what qualifies as gifted?
I to believe population control/weeding could be greatly beneficial (to an extant), but it is a very slippery slope if you ask me.
Especialy when you consider quite a few of those needing to be weeded make up the ruling class.
Kwinnie Bogan
03-13-2009, 05:26 AM
Kill the weak, fer fucksakes.
While yes, that may very well be a logical conclusion, how exactly would it be put into practice?
Who gets to decide which babys shall be born, and which not?
Who gets to decide what qualifies as gifted?
I to believe population control/weeding could be greatly beneficial (to an extant), but it is a very slippery slope if you ask me.
Especialy when you consider quite a few of those needing to be weeded make up the ruling class.
Leave it up to the free market. If you're rich and can nurture a retard, good for you. If you're poor and have a savant or genius child, someone, somewhere will be interested in sponsoring it.
reallystupidstuff
03-13-2009, 05:34 AM
Charity ftw ;). The state nurturing of geniuses too often leads to them being used for destructive purposes.
It's like you've met me before.
Slapshot
03-13-2009, 06:27 AM
Niggers ARE mentally disabled, therefore I'm against it.
Slapshot
03-13-2009, 06:29 AM
Leave it up to the free market. If you're rich and can nurture a retard, good for you. If you're poor and have a savant or genius child, someone, somewhere will be interested in sponsoring it.
Are you the same Zay who advocates racial equality?
Are you the same Zay who advocates racial equality?
Yes and no. I'm very consistent with my beliefs. I think you're viewing this from the context of an American(ie "this minority should be supporting the increased taxation of wealthy white people in order to forward his affirmative action agenda in hopes that some politicians will come up with some magical system to warp statistics because he feels ashamed of being in a better situation than yadayadayada")
I neither see blacks as mentally disabled nor do I think that proper upbringing, virtues of hard work and a culture that supports intellectuals(and not revisionist afrocentrists with inferiority complexes) will indoctrinate the majority of them within only a couple of generations of real freedom.
Struwwelpeter
03-13-2009, 10:46 AM
How delightful, I think we see eye to eye on this Zay.
Marijuanasaurus
03-13-2009, 11:50 AM
Increasing fund towards those with higher IQ would be redundant, and here's why.
First off, more money is spent on education toward "retarded" people because, like HARDMAN stated before, people with higher IQ account for a smaller percentage of the population, requiring lesser funds. The money spent on said "retarded" people is used to maintain them at an adequate education level to survive and make a living in todays society.
Second, intelligent people should have the ability to seek out more information, including additional funds for education if they were born into lower class, and not need things handed to them. Think of it as a test to see how truly intelligent they are.
Also, even though we do have the technology to weed out the "retarded" people of our society, the IQ distribution will not deviate towards those of higher intelligence. If we are left with nothing but smart people, we can only get smarter from there, recreating the normal IQ standard deviation of the majority having moderate intelligence, while a small percentage deviate higher or lower on the scale.
And lastly, if there were nobody of lesser intelligence, who will do the dirty work of America, like mowing lawns or flipping burgers?
By your post OP, i can tell that you are one of these "retarded" people. Have fun bagging my groceries faggot.:thumbsup:
i poop in your cereal
03-13-2009, 01:10 PM
give these people the education and challenge that they deserve.
No one is born into deserving a motherfucking thing, this is like saying that beautiful people should be ranked higher than ugly people simply because they were born that way.
Let us analyze why you want this in the first place:
Faster evolution as a society - But what the fuck good is that? We're gonna get there anyway, so we might aswell make our society a nice, comfy one and just chill the fuck out enjoying to be alive and enjoying being humane and giving everyone a chance.
Do you also support the abortion of autistic retards? Does having virtually no social skills and an inability to empathize with other people rank higher than someone who can do this, but not math?
And who the fuck is anyone to determine what is a valuable contribution to society? Does a radiohost with an IQ of 90 who owns at making people laugh and brightening their day and getting them through their monotone and boring jobs rank lower than a doctor or an engineer who contribute with physical things?
People who believe in shit like this are all depressed, aspergers ridden retards who scored high on a can-you-spot-the-pattern test and then believe themselves to be superior to everyone else regardless of the fact that they're unable to function on their own.
Struwwelpeter
03-13-2009, 03:14 PM
And lastly, if there were nobody of lesser intelligence, who will do the dirty work of America, like mowing lawns or flipping burgers?
High school/college students.
Struwwelpeter
03-13-2009, 03:19 PM
And there is not necessarily a correlation between employment and intelligence, that's usually determined by one's class. It is impossible for the majority of lower class people to achieve a higher class. Not allocating fund to intelligent people is not a test of their intelligence, someone who has a knack for advanced mathematics isn't necessarily prepared to break the boundary of class on his own. And just as smart people are a minority, less intelligent people are as well, the majority of people are average.
And an IQ of 90 is only slightly less than average in the United States. It happens to be the average in Ireland, Greece and some other developed nations. Once you get in to the mid 80s, that's when you're hitting stupidity.
ArmsMerchant
03-16-2009, 07:44 PM
I think Kant had the right idea (okay, maybe it was Neitszche, one of those krauts).
When he was a schoolmaster, he devoted most of his time to the average students, on the grounds that the really stupid ones were beyond help, and the relly smart ones didn't need it.
NamelessNom4d
03-20-2009, 12:11 AM
Charity ftw ;). The state nurturing of geniuses too often leads to them being used for destructive purposes.
I must acquire funds to construct my deathray! *evil laugh*
Increasing fund towards those with higher IQ would be redundant, and here's why.
First off, more money is spent on education toward "retarded" people because, like HARDMAN stated before, people with higher IQ account for a smaller percentage of the population, requiring lesser funds. The money spent on said "retarded" people is used to maintain them at an adequate education level to survive and make a living in todays society.
Second, intelligent people should have the ability to seek out more information, including additional funds for education if they were born into lower class, and not need things handed to them. Think of it as a test to see how truly intelligent they are.
Also, even though we do have the technology to weed out the "retarded" people of our society, the IQ distribution will not deviate towards those of higher intelligence. If we are left with nothing but smart people, we can only get smarter from there, recreating the normal IQ standard deviation of the majority having moderate intelligence, while a small percentage deviate higher or lower on the scale.
And lastly, if there were nobody of lesser intelligence, who will do the dirty work of America, like mowing lawns or flipping burgers?
By your post OP, i can tell that you are one of these "retarded" people. Have fun bagging my groceries faggot.:thumbsup:
This is almost exactly what I was going to say, thanks for saying it for me so I didn't have to expend the effort. :cool:
Yggdrasil
03-23-2009, 03:59 AM
Forgive me for my absence, as I have good, first-hand experience in the topic at hand, and should have participated earlier
Having been in these so called "gifted" classes since the age of 7, I can say without compunction that the majority of the students in these classes are no geniuses. In the school district which I attend, entrance into gifted classes occurs through two methods. One is a diagnosis by a teacher, who recommends the student to take an exam of sorts, and the second is by a parent-paid audit.
Many kids who take said classes got there through either wealthy or pushy parents. As for myself, I was recommended by a teacher.
That being said, I don't think those in the upper strata of intelligence need as much financial and educational support as is allocated towards us.
Why?
In my experience, us in gifted have always had the intelligent, captivating and all around satisfactory teachers. We have had all the interesting equipment, all the brand new books. That one is quite significant. Walk into a gifted class, and you'll find the textbooks pristine. Walk into a "regular" class, and expect tattered and torn pages littered with poorly drawn penises and other graffiti. Admittedly, both books are of equal age, so I think it's jsut mroe of a behavioral thing.
The point is, these kids not taking advanced classes such as these are given scarce resources. Much like Republicans giving tax cuts to the already wealthy, we don't need the surplus attention from the state. Those breaks should be diverted to the "less-fortunate".
Friends of mine who didn't take gifted courses spoke of an apathy, a lethargy, a dislike for their classes. To be honest, none of us particularly enjoy school, but we do find sliver linings. These kids just don't. They're not as sharp as us, they're not as pragmatic as us, but they certainly aren't ignorant.
I think of it as if we were sliver cutlery. Those who partake in gifted courses are brilliant, gleaming spoons, who are constantly getting repolished to the point where it's redundant, while those who don't are left to tarnish on the sidelines. Not fair to them.
And then, there's the third spoon, the nasty, corroded, tetanus-infested spoon: The retarded. Note that the spoon's irone iron. You're never going to polish it; it's rusted. What do you do with old, useless cutlery? You throw it away, or send it off to get smelted as scrap metal.
I despise government efforts to help the mentally challenged. I don't agree with JFLC on many things, but I draw the line here. Mass-murder, Hitler style is all-but befitting of those mongrels. The last thing our troubled world needs are completely non-functional human beings who do nothing but stumble, squeal, and craft lanyards.
Star Wars Fan
03-25-2009, 05:49 AM
If you really want to help gifted people, PM me and I will tell you where you can send a check.
......up his ass.
Seriously, you all try your genocidal bullshit and see how easily the Neurodiverse rise up to cap your ass. Us so-called "Retards" aren't as defenseless as you neurotypical bastards wish.
Star Wars Fan
03-25-2009, 05:57 AM
Do you also support the abortion of autistic retards? Does having virtually no social skills and an inability to empathize with other people rank higher than someone who can do this, but not math?
lol. "Social skills". "Empathy". Social Skills are fluid and some social faggot who can manipulate people (by faking empathy and doing all the right signals to conform and fit into your social bullshit ladder regardless of them doing it right/wrong) is somehow superior to "Autistic retards". Thanks for proving your neurotypical disposition.
And who the fuck is anyone to determine what is a valuable contribution to society? Does a radiohost with an IQ of 90 who owns at making people laugh and brightening their day and getting them through their monotone and boring jobs rank lower than a doctor or an engineer who contribute with physical things?
Engineers design things and technology, the shit the radio host uses to entertain people. Arguably the engineer does more to advance humanity. I don't see Radio hosts building spaceships.
People who believe in shit like this are all depressed, aspergers ridden retards who scored high on a can-you-spot-the-pattern test and then believe themselves to be superior to everyone else regardless of the fact that they're unable to function on their own.
And you're full of shit again. Troll. You can play your meaningless social bullshit like everyone else, kthx. Us aspies will be gaining information that actually lasts a while and isn't dependent on social manipulation or tricks. Faggot.
I neither see blacks as mentally disabled nor do I think that proper upbringing, virtues of hard work and a culture that supports intellectuals(and not revisionist afrocentrists with inferiority complexes) will indoctrinate the majority of them within only a couple of generations of real freedom.
Hey. Trolling for lulz again like you do in the politics threads?
Star Wars Fan
03-25-2009, 06:07 AM
I have no intention of being cruel or insensitive, but I don’t think that any money should be spent on the mentally retarded.
given what so-called "mentally retarded" people can do compared to normalfags, I lol.
I think that there should be some sort of abortion law regarding “special people”. They truly are burdens to society.
lol. enjoy wiping out different tribes, nay nations. Doing to torture them to death so you can try to make them more neurotypical?
http://mikestanton.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/judge-rotenberg-center-close-it-down/
The potential that these gifted people have is absolutely unbelievable.
the same could be said about "retarded people" whatever that its
Those types of people have such amazing problem solving skills that, if properly educated and challenged, they could find cures for AIDS, skin cancer, and even Down syndrome.
....or autism
http://www.autistics.org/library/angry.html
http://ventura33.com/clock/
By cutting funding for the retarded people, we can spend money on gifted people who could potentially find cures for retardation.
...normalfags wanting to remove those who are different. Remember the past times that happened. Curing them in one form or another, or more accurstely *Destroying* them in one form or another
Technically it would help retarded people to suspend they’re funding. After all, by educating people who can’t really think, we may as well put the money in a massive bonfire.
have proof that "they can't really think"?
Slave of the Beast
03-25-2009, 07:18 AM
given what so-called "mentally retarded" people can do compared to normalfags, I lol.
And what exactly can you do that "normalfags" can't, SWF?
Im Bored
03-25-2009, 08:52 AM
totse, what if you were born as a retard?
And what exactly can you do that "normalfags" can't, SWF?
He has a condition that reduces gray matter in the part of the brain that deals with social skills. I'd like to see you try and do that, normalfag.
Captain Politik
03-27-2009, 08:33 AM
idk how much the govt spends on savants but that shit shoudl be raised!!
cheech
03-27-2009, 09:03 AM
Let one sleep at your house, and it'll pay off their debts to you by sweeping ur floor, mowing the lawn, cleaning up ur dogs shit etc. I don't think they can handle a vacuum cleaner tho.
Magpie_Tendencies
03-28-2009, 12:52 PM
Leave it up to the free market. If you're rich and can nurture a retard, good for you. If you're poor and have a savant or genius child, someone, somewhere will be interested in sponsoring it.
Not necessarily. Savant children (and adults) tend to severely lack in social skills. If a 'normalfag' feels they can't relate to the person they're sponsoring, no matter how intelligent that person is, sooner or later they'll stop sponsoring. Maybe they won't even begin, no doubt they'd want to meet they child before pouring money into them.
Struwwelpeter
03-28-2009, 05:20 PM
I compare it to people with Tourette's. Sometimes there are some people who have a genuine motor condition and they can control it. But most of the time it's some thirteen year old girl who's gotten her grimey little fingers on a keyboard and watched a few youtube videos and researched the disorder and feels it will be cute to pretend she has it. In this case there may only be one solution.
Star Wars Fan
03-29-2009, 06:34 AM
But most of the time it's some thirteen year old girl who's gotten her grimey little fingers on a keyboard and watched a few youtube videos and researched the disorder and feels it will be cute to pretend she has it. In this case there may only be one solution.
not this bullshit again...
http://www.tard-blog.com/archives/entries/ndpn/3_even_riti_sped_can_be_immature.phtml
nshanin
03-30-2009, 04:40 AM
In order to sort good apples from bad apples, you first need a criteria. But how can you know that your criteria is correct without another criteria?
/sophism
The internet has made it that if you can't be challenged, you're not trying hard enough. My philosophy throughout high school was "never blame a teacher for your lack of an education", which I originally heard from a totsean (was it ChickenOfDoom?). It got me far--at least according to society's "criteria".
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