If you're 20+ years old; beat the shit out of a "teenager"

[King of the world]

Youths are possibly the biggest burden on society these days; they cannot be trusted, they're disrespectful, cost money in terms of vandalism and anti-social behaviour and on the whole they are fucking retarded, clueless and too cheeky for their own good; you only need look on youtube, zoklet, totse, 4chan, facebook, bebo, myspace and in your local high-schools, colleges and what's worse... universities to see this smarmy, disgusting, disrespectful, clueless, hair tearing inducing phenomenon when you witness it. This is called "youth."

Slogging and beatings is what's needed. Work and beat the snottiness (youth) out of these worthless maggots, these parasites who contribute nothing to society economically or otherwise, who just TAKE TAKE TAKE. I'm also sick of this fucking, "children are the future", line of bullshite. "Children are innocent and need to be protected" is complete bullshit. Humans are the most naturally evil animals on the planet, they'll do anything to entertain their curiosity. Children especially; they are bullies, animal abusers, liars, thieves, cheats, pathologically selfish, intimidate old age pensioners, they are only second to women in being the most evil humans on the planet. What saves them, as opposed to women, is that children have character. The concept of childhood innocence and the idea that "the children are our future" has been pushed so much that we are in a society that worships women and children.

As far as that "children are the future" way of thinking, here is an interesting article.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118358476840657463.html

Male adults should have the legal right to beat "youths" because they are both intellectually and biologically inferior to men; given the smaller size of the teenage brain and the fact that they are often under the control of surging hormones, teenagers are incapable of behaving or thinking rationally. They often need to be physically disciplined in order to recognize their subordinate status within the modern order of things. It is because of the fact that men have gradually ceased administering corporal punishment to the youth since the early twentieth century, that such things as liberal multiculturalism and general scumbaggery have been allowed to eat at the moral fabric of today's Western society.

Men must beat children back into factories, mines and chimneys where they belong, even killing them if necessary!

Also if you want to release tension, stress or frustration, the best way to do such is to find a teenager and use them as a punching bag. All snotty, shit-grinning youths make great punching bags; it's a great achievement to knock all of a teenager's teeth out with a single blow. Youths, much like women possess a strong psychological predisposition towards masochism and actually enjoy being beaten up into bloody pulps, provided the sadist is a dominant Alpha male.

The next time you see a teenager/youth/snotty-nosed ugly fucker of the ages 12-17, beat the fucking shit out of them. Break their jaw, nose, teeth, legs and whatever else to keep them in line so that they know their place. For large groups of youths who like to hang around shops outside and bus shelters and in the parks, I'd suggest rounding 2-5 adults and fucking their shit up. If you go alone and find yourself confronted with 10 or so of the bastards, take a homemade flamethrower and watch the cockroaches scatter. Use weapons if you have to destroy them and guarantee broken bones to strike everlasting fear into their minds and hearts. Over time, teenagers will stop being as shit as they are.

Mild attacks should be done as well such as throwing eggs and flour at them; especially when they're in their school uniforms. Just last week me and a couple of friends did a driveby egging on some kids who thought they were hot shit; tonight we're going to the park to steal the "stoner" kids' shit weed and alcohol and consume it infront of them if they don't run off in tears.

[The Risen Ghost of Hitler]

Someone else read it and let us know if it's funny.

[elf omg]

I'm special.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

yeah, let's all go to jail!

oh wait...

[Killermite]

Sounds like you need some therapy man. I'm 17 and I don't show the kind of disrespect or cluelessness you speak of. Whenever I speak to an adult I treat them with respect. Unless they did something to lose my respect. I agree with you that most youth nowadays are very belligerent and disrespectful, but beating them won't do shit. Hell, if my parents laid a hand on my I would smash their head into the wall. I love my parents, but I would never allow them to hurt me. And if you beat kids that will only cause them to be fucked in the head and cause lots of insanity. And I am not a thief, I chose not to steal. I am no animal abuser, I raised a kitten from when she was 3 weeks old and she is as loyal as a dog. I don't like to lie it makes me feel dirty, I will if I really have to, but who never lies? I am not a cheat, when I used to deal I never cheated anyone. I always was honest with my product. I'll admit, I am selfish. But I try to be a good person to try and make up for those times. I don't like bothering people in their old age, they've probably been through enough.

Don't judge a whole age group because of what you see on TV, or because of the few people you see be assholes. Maybe I'm the odd-one-out but I hate being a bad person.

You sir are the blight, not the solution.

Edit: Either that or a troll

[King of the world]

let's all go to jail!

That is an impossibility. The government hasn't got the time, the money or the places in the prisons to do that. They're already releasing more and more criminals early to make space and to cut down on spending. If we're careful, no one will be going to jail.

Hell, if my parents laid a hand on my I would smash their head into the wall. I love my parents, but I would never allow them to hurt me. And if you beat kids that will only cause them to be fucked in the head and cause lots of insanity.
You see, this is the attitude we need to get rid of, the fact that youths think they could even do this to their parents and parents being afraid to discipline and punish their children, because of the stupid protective position children are given by the law. The majority of these youths today are brought up in single mother homes primarily at the fault of the mother's choice (I've posted countless evidence of this in one of my threads) who is too incompetent to punish and guide her children onto the right path. So men need to step in and do it. You get beat within an inch of your life for doing some shit or almost get killed doing some stupid shit and the chances are you'll never do it again; you'll also think twice before even thinking of acting out of line.

Capital punishment and public lashings/hangings should be brought back and youths should not be shielded from the law. I believe in actual, sacred, inspired authority. Most offenders, in fact, do or will repeat their crimes, often, many times over. There is a lot of empirical evidence to support this notion; very easily obtainable with a quick google search, with varying sources arriving at the same conclusion, prison isn't always and most often isn't a deterrent to committing crime; but whilst not on the subject of murder, the following I'm about to post shows, the point still stands that prison isn't a good deterrent; prison is much more tougher than juvenile detention and probation at that too:
Have you ever been to prison before for burglary?
A. Sixty-four percent said that they had been imprisoned before for burglary or other
crime. The other 36 percent stated that this was their first experience of incarceration.
However, many of them had been on probation.
Have you learned from prison life how to commit more and different
kinds of crime?
A. Ninety-five percent stated that they have learned many more kinds of crime while
being in prison.
Would you agree that a good name for prison would be the College of
Better Crime Education?
A. The same results were obtained on this question, with 95 percent agreeing that prisons
are schools for taking vacations and learning more methods of crime. One day I
overheard another inmate ticking off various ways of blowing up vehicles in ninety
seconds. The inmates who heard him are now mentally equipped to blow up any vehicle
on the streets. Whether they will retain this information by the time they are released is
another question.
Prisons are places where inmates can get together and tell stories of all kinds— including
tales of the crimes they've pulled off—and teach others new and improved methods. They
explain how they were caught, and the next guy learns from the other's mistakes, so he
won't make the same one, when he gets out. They exchange mistakes, improving their
ways so that they build up false courage, thinking they're much better than when they
came in. And they can't wait to get out to practice their new methods. I've been asked by
literally hundreds of inmates about my methods and ways to do this and that: how I shut
off alarms, etc. Needless to say, they have learned nothing from me, except that it was a
waste of time to ask.
Now that you've been to prison, when you get out would further prison
time deter you from doing more burglaries?
A. OK... place your bets. Do you think prison is a deterrent or not? Let me give you a few
hints. While in prison there was a guy whose locker was broken into seven times. He lost
over ninety-five dollars and one watch, plus various other things. Need more hints? One
day in the laundry, one of the laundry inmates who had access to sheets stole them and
sold extra ones for fifty cents apiece to other inmates. For what? Who knows? Probably
for smoking. They smoked everything else around there. Seventy percent admitted to me
that they were going to continue burglaries and other crimes, when they get out. And you
know what the general attitude was about it all? They knew their mistakes now and they
were not going to make them again. They've improved their systems and techniques. The
other 30 percent said that they were pretty sure that they weren't going to do any more
burglaries.
- Secrets of a superthief

Now, some opponents will argue that the death penalty is not a deterrent to crime either and is pointless; while others say that sentencing criminals to death reflects badly on society; that it is uncivilized or primitive. In regards to the former, no penalty will deter people from committing crime if it is never or is only infrequently used. The knowledge that capital offenses would always receive the death penalty helped to instill internal restraints in people, from childhood on. The to be offender would be reminded to stop before things could go too far; even in fits of rage. The inner restraint no longer exists, even in the most civilized of people. The latter "issues" is one of concern, expressed, by the typical leftist/liberal. How do "humane societies" explain to the families of those secondary and tertiary victims that freeing the criminal was the humane thing to do? Especially alady knowing that they are more likely to reoffend. Leftists always feel the pain of criminals but not the pain of their victims or their families.


Ernest van den Haag pointed out in the Harvard Law Review (1986), a fine defence of the death penalty, that most of the people with opposing viewpoints towards capital punishment say they would favor abolition even if it could be shown conclusively that the punishment is the best deterrent to murder. I will just add that it is typical and hypocritical, over in America, black murderers have received the death penalty less often than white murderers convicted of the same crimes; the same goes for women, so much more so, getting leeway and lesser sentences for the same crimes as males do.

Even if we are to entertain the effeminate liberal argument, which was popularized by liberal Justice William J. Brennan. The death penalty is not degrading to the offender, and philosophers Kant's and Hegel's ideas are in harmony with mine, in that a just execution, far from degrading the convicted murderer, actually affirms and dignifies his humanity by granting him, at least in this act, responsibility for his own behavior. It shouldn't surprise you when you see that females and non-whites favour the death penalty much less than what white males do; since women (of all races), teenagers (of all races) and non-whites (particularly blacks) are the most irresponsible humans, using the term "humans" loosely, on the face of the earth.

Crime without punishment is allowing chaos and irresponsibility, and laws without just and appropriate penalties for violators are pious pronouncements.

Not only is it a just punishment and a deterrent, it is economically advantageous, especially if we are to go with public hanging; as oppossed to keeping them in prison where they're more likely to die of old age than of the lethal injection, which is most commonly used. Very few serious offenders are put to death for their crimes out of all of them which are locked up; money wasted.

As with rape, we now have DNA evidence to overwhelmingly prove quickly whether some frigid cunt is/was lying (which is VERY OFTEN THE CASE and males are now rightfully being released), just as we do for crimes such as robbery and murder. With the advancements in DNA technology and if a competent and thorough investigation team is put into place, and the current filth scrapped and used as target practice for the new police, we can have more justice rather than law alone.

[King of the world]

Loitering teenagers should be captured and sold as slaves. Children and teenagers, much like women (very similar), are property.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

You have become what you are hating.

Learn to control your emotions, maybe you'll learn some things.

More importantly, learn to forgive, learn to love.

[Shishananee]

Parents just don't beat their kids like they used to. I mean within reason. Can't be showing kids the buckle end of the belt just because they were born.

Discipline is seen as 'emotionally scarring' and associated with similiar psychological bullshit. In college I was just amazed at the utter stupidity and lack of respect all around. Our society is really just raising more applicants for the welfare system, because they're raised with the idea that 'everybody's equal' and 'you can be whatever you want to be'.

Bullshit, if you try it and you suck, it's not anybody's fault other than your own.

Arg.

[Satyr]

I actually agree to a certain extent.. :rolleyes:

On thursday, it's partynight in the town I go to university. Everyone knows this. Lots of drinking, laughing, partying. And of course, the occassional (and unavoidable) fighting and puking.

However, last thursday it was 'chrisostemos'. This means that people in their last year of secondary school only have 100 days left in school. Usually, the school plans activities to celebrate this and the pupils themselves go party that evening.

In other words: the whole town was overrun by 17-year-old fucktards who want to go out, drinking like mad and feel like A REAL MAYUN because they're leaving secondary school. NEVER is there as much fighting, puking, vandalism and random acts of shitbrainishness as on that day in the year.

Even I got in a fight with some drunk little asshole, and I never fight. He thought it fun to scream insults at the top of his lungs in some random guy's face. Me and a friend went over there and told him to shut up and calm down, and he started getting violent towards me. A brief but firm punch in the kisser later he got the message though.

[Xlite]

I tend to agree with OP, even though i would never hit my own children.

Its quite easy to see how well-manered and often peaceful the older generations are. This could very well be related to a strict and disciplined childhood.

However, i would rather administer some non-violent punishment to deal with it.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

When your baby child is trying to learn how to walk, and he falls on his ass, do you punish him? or do you applaud him for learning?

Creating more hatred in the world won't solve anything.

Sure, some teenagers can be little shitheads, but how will demonstrating what you hate solve anything??


Grow up.

[Killermite]

You see, this is the attitude we need to get rid of, the fact that youths think they could even do this to their parents and parents being afraid to discipline and punish their children, because of the stupid protective position children are given by the law.

If my parents think they should be allowed to beat me they deserve to be hit themselves. What goes around comes around.

I have to ask, what youth did something to you that was so horrible to make you form this opinion?

Or did you just decide to form these ideas because of a growing hate for the young?

Whatever the cause of this may be I have one piece of advice for you.

NEVER HAVE CHILDREN

[Killermite]

I tend to agree with OP, even though i would never hit my own children.

Its quite easy to see how well-manered and often peaceful the older generations are. This could very well be related to a strict and disciplined childhood.

However, i would rather administer some non-violent punishment to deal with it.

I agree, children need discipline, but through non-violent means. Not saying a child doesn't deserve the good slap on the back of the head every now and then, but strict abuse is not the answer.

[Yurpen]

I agree with some of the point's you made as it is the system we are in that is transforming the youth into self centred asshole's who do nothing but cause grief. Mind you this is 80 percent of the youth of today but the other 20 percent seem to be level headed through my experience. The media of today suggests we watch our health, looks, hair and almost every extremity possible to gain some sort of egotistical boost to our stature. The youth seem to take this the wrong way as they are not bettering themselves moreso than they are bettering their ego's. Well all you can do is ignore them when they are acting a part and to not take their way's as offensive as they are truly clueless about the world. Ignorance can be educated, stupidity last's forever.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

lol I love how it says 20+ year olds.

Because when you turn 20, all of a sudden you're not a shithead anymore?

magic!

[Yurpen]

lol I love how it says 20+ year olds.

Because when you turn 20, all of a sudden you're not a shithead anymore?

magic!

No your still the shithead that was when you where 17, You now just have to focus on paying bills and making sure you have food in the fridge or your going to die sort of straightens them out to a degree.

[King of the world]

Or did you just decide to form these ideas because of a growing hate for the young?

Exactly that reason. I don't have to have been directly involved in confrontations with the group in question, in this case teenagers/youths, to see trends and facts and form a valid opinion of them. I will be having children, but they sure as fuck aren't going to act like youths of today. As of 12 years old they'll be expected to book their ideas up and start acting as adults and not get leeway or excuses made for them. The concept of "teenager" was completely foreign in days of the past, 12 -17 year olds were working- a best modern case scenario would be helping with a family business; forming families; and fighting in wars; not being a useless burden on society and economic leech to their parents and the rest of society. Until a huge government change over happens, the only methods of helping the transition of bad attitudes to upstanding contributors can be done through violent means. Because, as you said, the education system and media certainly isn't helping at the moment and won't do until there are major changes in government.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

No your still the shithead that was when you where 17, You now just have to focus on paying bills and making sure you have food in the fridge or your going to die sort of straightens them out to a degree.

Are you saying that as long as someone is buying food and paying car taxes that it's ok to be a complete asshole to everyone?

That's retarded.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

and fighting in wars

you're completely fucked in the head

[Yurpen]

Are you saying that as long as someone is buying food and paying car taxes that it's ok to be a complete asshole to everyone?

That's retarded.

Not to everyone, Only to one's who can't offer these asshole's anything.

[Killermite]

No your still the shithead that was when you where 17, You now just have to focus on paying bills and making sure you have food in the fridge or your going to die sort of straightens them out to a degree.

I do have to admit, I am lazy and have the luxuries I do because I am allowed to. But I also work when I have to, physical labor or chores. Although I do forget once in a while... But then dad yells at me and I get right on it.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Not to everyone, Only to one's who can't offer these asshole's anything.

You're blind. Why?

Because everyone has everything to offer to anyone.

It's called the learning experience.

even if it's someone trying to scam you out of money, that person is teaching you not to fall for stupid ass tricks.

[Killermite]

Exactly that reason. I don't have to have been directly involved in confrontations with the group in question, in this case teenagers/youths, to see trends and facts and form a valid opinion of them. I will be having children, but they sure as fuck aren't going to act like youths of today. As of 12 years old they'll be expected to book their ideas up and start acting as adults and not get leeway or excuses made for them. The concept of "teenager" was completely foreign in days of the past, 12 -17 year olds were working- a best modern case scenario would be helping with a family business; forming families; and fighting in wars; not being a useless burden on society and economic leech to their parents and the rest of society. Until a huge government change over happens, the only methods of helping the transition of bad attitudes to upstanding contributors can be done through violent means. Because, as you said, the education system and media certainly isn't helping at the moment and won't do until there are major changes in government.

I kinda see where you are coming from, but do you think strict abuse is the best answer to this? I'll admit to many youths get a "slap on the wrist" nowadays, but to harsh of consequences does no good either.

[Yurpen]

You're blind. Why?

Because everyone has everything to offer to anyone.

It's called the learning experience.

even if it's someone trying to scam you out of money, that person is teaching you not to fall for stupid ass tricks.

That's fine and all but it doesn't work in a dog eat dog world. My attitude help's me to not get into a situation of falling for some stupid ass money scam. What does hustling have to do with teenager's general behaviour?

[King of the world]

you're completely fucked in the head

You and people like you (leftist types) are part of this problem. Many males were rehearsing for battle at age eight when they layed with their soldiers, which we'd probably have been exposed to at age fifteen or so (average age during the bronze era was about seventeen). Child soldiery is also well-documented on this planet. Let me guess, you think children are all sweet and innocent on the matters of sex too?

Most children are definitely physiologically prepared for having sex at the age of 12. Most girls this age are already thinking about sex and dressing promiscuously, and this can be seen by taking a trip to any town centre or shopping centre. If children were not psychologically prepared to have sex, they would not develop sexual desires at a young age and the development of their sexual organs would occur much later. No one denies that most children have sex at ages 12-16, between themselves and sometimes and more often with older people, so why is it different if a man in his 30s weds or has sex with an adolescent, or a girl going through puberty? This was common behavior before the feminization of the West.

Most mothers would be having sex in a "natural" environment, and is when most girls in our society lose their virginity.

Humans are the most naturally evil animals on the planet, they'll do anything to entertain their curiosity. Children especially; they are bullies, animal abusers, liars, thiefs, cheats, pathologically selfish, intimidate old age pensioners, they are only second to women in being the most evil humans on the planet. What saves them, as opposed to women, is that children have character. The concept of childhood innocence and the idea that "the children are our future" has been pushed so much that we are in a society that worships women and children. When little girls are playing with dolls pretending to be mothers and house holders as Barbie as they kiss and wave Ken off to work is them rehearsing for motherhood to come. Most mothers would be having sex in a "natural" environment at the ages of 10-13 years old, and is when most girls in our society lose their virginity. It goes for males who are rehearsing for battle at age eight when they play with their tin soldiers, battle is something which we'd probably have been exposed to at age fifteen or so (average age during the bronze era was about seventeen). Child soldiery is also still well-documented on this planet; as I already mentioned.

So get off your leftist high horse.

[Killermite]

You and people like you (leftist types) are part of this problem. Many males were rehearsing for battle at age eight when they layed with their soldiers, which we'd probably have been exposed to at age fifteen or so (average age during the bronze era was about seventeen). Child soldiery is also well-documented on this planet. Let me guess, you think children are all sweet and innocent on the matters of sex too?

Most children are definitely physiologically prepared for having sex at the age of 12. Most girls this age are already thinking about sex and dressing promiscuously, and this can be seen by taking a trip to any town centre or shopping centre. If children were not psychologically prepared to have sex, they would not develop sexual desires at a young age and the development of their sexual organs would occur much later. No one denies that most children have sex at ages 12-16, between themselves and sometimes and more often with older people, so why is it different if a man in his 30s weds or has sex with an adolescent, or a girl going through puberty? This was common behavior before the feminization of the West.

Most mothers would be having sex in a "natural" environment, and is when most girls in our society lose their virginity.

Humans are the most naturally evil animals on the planet, they'll do anything to entertain their curiosity. Children especially; they are bullies, animal abusers, liars, thiefs, cheats, pathologically selfish, intimidate old age pensioners, they are only second to women in being the most evil humans on the planet. What saves them, as opposed to women, is that children have character. The concept of childhood innocence and the idea that "the children are our future" has been pushed so much that we are in a society that worships women and children. When little girls are playing with dolls pretending to be mothers and house holders as Barbie as they kiss and wave Ken off to work is them rehearsing for motherhood to come. Most mothers would be having sex in a "natural" environment at the ages of 10-13 years old, and is when most girls in our society lose their virginity. It goes for males who are rehearsing for battle at age eight when they play with their tin soldiers, battle is something which we'd probably have been exposed to at age fifteen or so (average age during the bronze era was about seventeen). Child soldiery is also still well-documented on this planet; as I already mentioned.

So get off your leftist high horse.

I can see how children should be slightly trained for combat at younger ages, it helps with self defense. But I disagree with the idea of adolescent marriage with older humans, but mostly the adolescent pregnancy, because it is known that it does harm the body. It is best to wait until an adult age to have a child because fewer damages happen, due to the body having more time to grow mainly.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Humans are the most naturally evil animals on the planet,

no.

they'll do anything to entertain their curiosity.

entertaining curiosity doesn't mean being "evil" and violent.

I entertain my curiosity all the fucking time, peacefully. I explore woods and take psychedelics.

You sound like you were molested by your father the way you talk about 12 year olds and sex.


And what the fuck does a leftiest even mean?

[Yurpen]

In a society where it think's for you it get's people bored. When they are bored they do all stupid shit such as bullying, murder, game, sexual gratification, control.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

In a society where it think's for you it get's people bored. When they are bored they do all stupid shit such as bullying, murder, game, sexual gratification, control.

So is it the society that is the problem, or the individuals?

[Killermite]

And what the fuck does a leftiest even mean?

I think he means liberal.

[Yurpen]

So is it the society that is the problem, or the individuals?

The society lay's the foundation for the behaviour.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

I think he means liberal.

I don't even know what liberal means these days.

according to wikipedia:

""Liberal" in the United Kingdom is customarily used to describe political beliefs in the classical liberal tradition of the old Liberal Party, rooted in a belief in freedom of the individual"

so uhhh, I guess I'm a huge faggot because I believe in freedom?

THAT'S COOL I GUESS

[King of the world]

You sound like you were molested by your father the way you talk about 12 year olds and sex.

Oh please; spare us the dishonest perversions and accusations of my opinion. I really didn't want this thread to lead on to the sexual nature of children, but the conversation seems to be moving that way, so I figure I'll clear up some misconceptions whioch have been created due to the fact that "youth" are a protected class. Now we have feminism to blame for this being defined as a psychological disorder, as I'll probably explain later if this thread actually does lead to a discussion. Age of consent laws are inherently flawed, considering a retarded 18 year old can legally have sex and many people of consent age are irresponsible when it comes to having sex anyway, yet a child who wants and is sure they want to have sex and can say so, is not allowed.

They're physically prepared for sex in most cases at age 13, well even lower than that in a lot of cases; girls start puberty and develop a lot earlier than boys (around age 7-9),not taking into account other races such as negroid girls who start puberty earlier than caucasoids. Contrary to common misconceptions, there's no evidence that body fat mass or body fat distribution triggers the onset of puberty. It can play a factor in development later.
We found no evidence that body fat mass or body fat distribution triggers the onset of puberty.
- http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/75/2/442

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-473584/Girls-entering-puberty-age--drugs-answer.html
http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/growing/understanding_puberty.html#a_For_a_Girl
http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/children/parents/parents-teens/445.html
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/86/9/4183

If you're capable of giving birth then you're sexually mature- http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1883598,00.html

Paedophiles cover a broad age range. Those convicted tend to be older than other sex offenders. The median age at first conviction in the Kinsey Institute study was 34.5 years for heterosexual and 30.2 years for homosexual offenders (Gebhard et al 1965). The majority prefer either female or male children; a small proportion are interested in both boys and girls. The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), an organisation of British paedophiles, surveyed its members and found that they were most attracted to girls aged 8-11 and boys aged 11-15 (O'Carroll 1980). It has been pointed out that this coincides with the age when childhood sexuality is most noticeable. Girls in particular enter a sexually quiescent period after this late childhood phase of activity.


Most children are definitely physiologically prepared for having sex at the age of 12. Most girls this age are already thinking about sex and dressing promiscuously, and this can be seen by taking a trip to any town centre or shopping centre. If children were not psychologically prepared to have sex, they would not develop sexual desires at a young age and the development of their sexual organs would occur much later. No one denies that most children have sex at ages 12-16, between themselves and sometimes and more often with older people, so why is it different if a man in his 30s weds or has sex with an adolescent, or a girl going through puberty? This was common behavior before the feminization of the West.

All over the world the age of consent varies, from the age of consent of 13 in countries like South Korea and Japan to 18 in some American states, 12 in Mexico; and in some countries like Saudi Arabia there is no age of consent at all.

Personally I think 12 is the ideal age. Maybe 14 to begin with though.

Paedophilic relationships are psychologically harmful to children
It is the guilt trip of society that causes harm to perfectly good relationships. The child being looked down on as "that girl", that "poor, abused and dirtied girl", even "taken advantage of" or "raped", even when it isn't the case. Everyone talking and involing themselves in something which is non of their business. Making the child feel like rubbish, as if they were wrong to love someone and make love with someone. What I'm talking about is sexually mature humans have sex with one another. Most five year olds are not sexually mature and it could be harmful, this is what genuine paedophiles want to avoid, harming young children.

The word "abuse" is becoming overused and just another buzzword which is inaccurate to invoke emotion, just like the word "paedophile" has. in the "Child Abuse Accomodation Syndrome" model of the "ritual abuse panic" starting circa 1980 and continuing throughout the 1990s, those who "disclosed" state-defined "sexual abuse" in the coercive interrogation models - which included and encouraged leading questions, discarding of "wrong" answers, promises of reward for "right" answers, and the continuation of incarceration of the child "victim" under high-pressure interrogation techniques until the "right" answers had been "disclosed"
- 75% of "victims" retract their testimony upon leaving state care (http://www.religioustolerance.org/chil_int.htm)

When you think about it, consensual sex and bonding as opposed to being continually abused, looked down upon and told they were "damaged" and "ruined" while being coerced to give the "right" answers seems very mild, does it not? Things that didn't happen (abuse) is obviously NOT going to be the cause of any scarred psychological effect. Being forced to be locked in a room with a person who tells you how horrible what they told you to say is and how ruined you are is more likely to. As is the locking up and taking away of the child's said friend or partner.

the therapist or interviewer must ask direct, leading questions, and ask them repeatedly until the child discloses abuse
Quote from the same religious tolerance link.

Why do the government and media benefit from this? The budget increases. The police's and fed's budgets were HUGE after the "satanic panic," "stranger abduction," and "the internet scare" promotions. A similar thing happens in the drug war, where "addiction counselors" are court-ordered and must be selected from an "approved" list supplied by the state, a simple coercion of commerce on a "kickback" scheme for inclusion. You can make a paying client out of ANYBODY. "Victims of child abuse" are just easy targets to pick, and if they deny being abused then they can just be "counselled" over and over until they jusdt give in and say they were abused, because they were told so often that they were.

Children have no sexuality
Grade A, feminist bullshit! Out of what I believe to be jealousy, as I touche don a little bit earlier in this thread.

This article alone refutes that idiocy (http://www.mdconsult.com/das/article/body/230601336-275/jorg=journal&source=&sp=966983&sid=0/N/78991/1.html?issn=0002-9378)
So does this one (http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=PSC.057.0327A) ...
and this one! (http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/search/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ099171&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ099171)

We also then have genital play, which is a common early childhood behavior of genital exploration which is distinct from autoerotic stimulation. A behavior which is part of a normative period of children exploring all of their bodies, with some psychologists suggesting that genital play is a sign of healthy psychosexual development.
http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/hesguide/humanrel/gh6002.htm

Though genital play may rarely evolve directly into masturbation, the behavior is sometimes misinterpreted directly as masturbation by adults. Genital play usually manifests in boys between six-seven months of age; and in girls at ten-eleven months.[2] It may take place in groups, and sometimes utilizing inanimate objects such as dolls.[3] It may continue, most often in boys, through the fifth year. There is then most commonly a sexual latency period between genital play and the onset of typically adolescent behaviors such as masturbation.[4]
References
* The Vital Touch: How Intimate Contact with Your Baby Leads to Happier, Healthier Development By Sharon Heller (http://books.google.com/books?id=nose717gNwQC&pg=RA1-PA151&lpg=RA1-PA151&dq=%22genital+play%22&source=web&ots=K5qO2aRe0Y&sig=Ku9IGuZJ3lIKdzGhdThaJspGW2M)
* Modern Psychoanalysis: New Directions and Perspectives By Judd Marmor (http://books.google.com/books?id=3CSPO-3oVQsC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=%22genital+play%22&source=web&ots=qFk8M_uZTm&sig=Cw11TWLFiPq5d9lfeqqktNPqpr8)

2. ^ "Human Sexuality and its problems" by Jon D. Bancroft (http://books.google.com/books?id=Mgrxw_SZUg8C&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=%22genital+play%22&source=web&ots=YKj3th1NQK&sig=n7VSm-yK7mmTST4F8TcZ5swLewY#PPA201,M1)
3. ^ "Human Sexuality and its problems" by Jon D. Bancroft (http://books.google.com/books?id=Mgrxw_SZUg8C&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=%22genital+play%22&source=web&ots=YKj3th1NQK&sig=n7VSm-yK7mmTST4F8TcZ5swLewY#PPA201,M1)
4. ^ North Carolina Dept. of Health and Human Services online publications (http://info.dhhs.state.nc.us/olm/manuals/dss/csm-60/chg/CN0804Att2.pdf)

Sigmund Freud's psychosexual development theories are still worth a look at, for interest's sake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_development
Also a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_psychology

I'd just like to post this as well:
The term early childhood may cover up through ages four, five, or six, depending on the focus of the particular researcher or commentator. During this period,

* Children are often curious about where babies come from.[11]
* Children may explore other children's and adults' bodies out of curiosity.[11]
* By age four, children may show significant attachment to the opposite-sex parent.[11]
* Children begin to have a sense of modesty and of the difference between private and public behavior.[11]
* For many children, genital touching increases, especially when they are tired or upset.[11]
* Some generally-accepted prescriptions (American) are that during this period children should learn:
o That touching their sex organs is normal, and to seek privacy when they want to touch their sex organs for pleasure.[12]
o The biological differences between males and females, and how babies are made.[12]
o That the child's body belongs to himself or herself, and how to say "no" to unwanted touching.[12]
o The correct terms for sexual body parts, and how to talk about all their body parts without feeling "naughty".[12]
o To learn and understand how to accept their appearances and their desires.

# ↑ a b c d e f g h http://muextension.missouri.edu/xplor/hesguide/humanrel/gh6002.htm
# ↑ a b c d e f g h i j http://www.plannedparenthood.org/educational-resources/for-parents/human-sexuality-what-children-need-to-know.htm Human Sexuality — What Children Need to Know and When They Need to Know It, Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

Out of all of the studies of sciences, I don't beleive there's anything less complex than "rub the bits that feel good," "and your bits with mine". Sex is the most simple activity in the whole wide world.

I could keep going, but I'll just stop here for now.

[King of the world]

And what the fuck does a leftiest even mean?
You've not read the unabomber manifesto have you? He summed up what leftism was perfectly.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

I mean, I don't disagree that the legal age should be lowered, I see no problem in banging a hot ass 16 year old.

but

I have a 12 year old sister. If she decided she wanted to have sex with some faggot little 13 year old or some even bigger faggot 15 year old who is more capable of getting her pregnant, and does so...she is FUCKED.

She can't take care of a baby, and I'm willing to bet my life that the pregnancy will do a lot of damage on her body.

The baby will most likely be born with defects due to malnourishment in the womb as well.

Most kids don't know what the fuck they really want. They want to try sex because the television is constantly talking about it and making a big deal out of it. What they are unaware of is the extreme risk they take. Sex is PRIMARILY meant for reproduction. No teenager should ever have to go through pregnancy.



edit: and no I haven't read that.

please, explain it in a brief summary what leftiests are?



just so we are clear, I too am aggrivated with how snotty and disrepectful the youth are today. But beating the shit out of them will only create more problems for EVERYONE.

[Yurpen]

Do you really think the age limit should be lowered? Seriously. Think back to when you where 16, do you have the finances and mental strength to carry on with a child, school and a job?

[Om Namah Shivaya]

The society lay's the foundation for the behaviour.

So what you are saying is, society trains kids to act like shitheads?

and that it's up to the individual to decide if this system is correct?


Do you really think the age limit should be lowered? Seriously. Think back to when you where 16, do you have the finances and mental strength to carry on with a child, school and a job?

meh, that's why they invented condoms...

shit, I lost my virginity when I was 15.

I'm a criminal! :lsd:

[Yurpen]

So what you are saying is, society trains kids to act like shitheads?

and that it's up to the individual to decide if this system is correct?

Your either apart of it, or you are against it. It's up to the individual to know if his action's are proper or not. You don't need a system to tell you what to think or believe what is a plus for society or a downfall for a society is in the moment.

Having sex is ok, But the risk is always there. And don't go crying back to the system when your pregnant at 16 and are filing for a welfare slip further putting a strain on our already troubled economy.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Your either apart of it, or you are against it. It's up to the individual to know if his action's are proper or not. You don't need a system to tell you what to think or believe what is a plus for society or a downfall for a society is in the moment.

sure.


But that doesn't make it ok for society to teach kids it's alright to be little fuckers. What do I mean by this? Turn on the TV and you will see that every program (besides a small minority like animal planet) is aimed at conditioning us to HATE EACHOTHER.

[Yurpen]

sure.


But that doesn't make it ok for society to teach kids it's alright to be little fuckers. What do I mean by this? Turn on the TV and you will see that every program (besides a small minority like animal planet) is aimed at conditioning us to HATE EACHOTHER.

Turn off the television and really reflect what they are trying to portray to you.

[Treefingers.s]

When your baby child is trying to learn how to walk, and he falls on his ass, do you punish him? or do you applaud him for learning?

Creating more hatred in the world won't solve anything.

Sure, some teenagers can be little shitheads, but how will demonstrating what you hate solve anything??


Grow up.

Well, teenagers can talk and reason. Babies can't. If you tell a teenager once, you might as well kick his ass the second time. But to break teeth or to give a black eye would look bad.

I'd say waterboarding :cool:

[Yurpen]

You know, It's really funny dressing, acting and talking out of place in their eyes and watching the sheep jump on you like you are some sort of heretic to their system. It really show's you an in depth look on how these people think.

[crazzyass]

Meh, it seems to me it was you old conservative fucks that keep screwing everything up.

Racism, sexism, homophobia, all of these wars, global warming, our reliance on petroleum for fuel, Republicans, country music, etc.

You guys need to seriously go fuck yourselves or something.

[Yurpen]

I really cannot notice a difference between a left and a right winged government anymore.

[crazzyass]

I really cannot notice a difference between a left and a right winged government anymore.

You can't?


http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/george-w-bush-quotes.jpg

vs.

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Barack-Obama-barack-obama-738862_1600_1200.jpg

Really? No difference?

[Om Namah Shivaya]

http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/barrack-obama-george-bush-1-150x150.jpg

difference? what difference?

[crazzyass]

http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/barrack-obama-george-bush-1-150x150.jpg

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
*head explodes*

[Yurpen]

haha pwnded

[Om Namah Shivaya]

Turn off the television and really reflect what they are trying to portray to you.

I haven't turned my TV on in at least 2 years. I mean, I've turned it on to play xbox (back when I used to play xbox that is, I don't anymore) but I stopped watching TV years ago, man.

[Corey]

Sounds like you need some therapy man. I'm 17 and I don't show the kind of disrespect or cluelessness you speak of. Whenever I speak to an adult I treat them with respect. Unless they did something to lose my respect. I agree with you that most youth nowadays are very belligerent and disrespectful, but beating them won't do shit. Hell, if my parents laid a hand on my I would smash their head into the wall. I love my parents, but I would never allow them to hurt me. And if you beat kids that will only cause them to be fucked in the head and cause lots of insanity. And I am not a thief, I chose not to steal. I am no animal abuser, I raised a kitten from when she was 3 weeks old and she is as loyal as a dog. I don't like to lie it makes me feel dirty, I will if I really have to, but who never lies? I am not a cheat, when I used to deal I never cheated anyone. I always was honest with my product. I'll admit, I am selfish. But I try to be a good person to try and make up for those times. I don't like bothering people in their old age, they've probably been through enough.

Don't judge a whole age group because of what you see on TV, or because of the few people you see be assholes. Maybe I'm the odd-one-out but I hate being a bad person.

You sir are the blight, not the solution.

Edit: Either that or a troll


OP believes kids need to be beaten and forced into mines and factories, he's either trolling or suffered beatings and the fucked up feelings that are a result from then when your older, usually when they grow up they do the same thing, sometimes worse, sometimes better, OP just never had a kid and now is pissed about his childhood and wants revenge.

[brotherinarms]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg4sw3FhQb1qbqm4ko1_400.jpg

[CoolStoryScrote]

Either that or a troll

This

[CoolStoryScrote]

$200,000 OP is Chinese or Middle Eastern

[Satyr]

For me, the point isn't that teenagers should be sent to labourcamps, be beaten up or get their asses kicked just because they're teenagers.

However, teenagers today don't have respect for anything. Not for the environment, the elderly, private property, state property, others... You name it. They think they're everything and everyone should do their liking. THAT'S the problem.

Why is this so? Bad, lazy or no parenting. Parents both go to work and kids come home without anyone being there, leaving them home alone.

Why do I say lazy parenting? Because the TV is the new babysitter/babyshutter. If your kids are acting up, put them in front of a screen (TV, videogames.. whatever) and they'll shut up without needing any attention at all. Marvelous, isn't it?

This brings me to the next problem: there are no means to get tired. When I was younger, sure, I played on the (S)NES. But if my mother found out I had been sitting on my ass in front of the tele all day long, she'd kick my ass outside and wouldn't let me in for at least an hour or two. And I didn't mind. You were used to playing outside. That way, you could really let go of some 'energy'. At the end of the day you were tired, just like a young boy or girl should be. Kids, especially boys, get hyper when they don't have this kind of release.

Bad parenting because kids are treated like gods. When I got myself some punishment or detention in school, my mother sure as HELL wouldn't go to school complaining about it. My father used to be a teacher, and it's so bad that parents actually sue a school over their kids failing exams (even when they answered none of the questions, true story) or give the kids detention for behaving like a little douche.

This all leads to kids growing up to be respectless, self-important and lazy douchebags we now know as 'teenagers'.

[DirtySanchez]

no.



entertaining curiosity doesn't mean being "evil" and violent.

I entertain my curiosity all the fucking time, peacefully. I explore woods and take psychedelics.

You sound like you were molested by your father the way you talk about 12 year olds and sex.


And what the fuck does a leftiest even mean?

You are seriously denying that humans are evil by nature?All other animals kill do to instinct or nessecity no other species kills and tortures for fun and pleasure like human do.

Children are by far the most evil. The idea that a child is "innocent" is laughable they lie bully kill cheat. Only society and it's influence teaches them to suppress this as they get older.

As far as child soldiers and brides go I saw why not? It used to be that age 13 was the time you were an adult and could be held responsible. I believe when a girl starts to menstruate she is ready to mate and that is the natural way. Liberal theories on children and sex are not based on nature and reality.

[Yurpen]

The scariest solder is not a full grown man in combat armor, The scariest soldier is a child with an ak47.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

You are seriously denying that humans are evil by nature?All other animals kill do to instinct or nessecity no other species kills and tortures for fun and pleasure like human do.

I guess you've never owned a house cat. They kill for fun.

Also, hardly anyone tortures and kills for fun. Only those who are fucked in the head do this (aka, unnatural)

so your arguement is invalid.

Children are by far the most evil. The idea that a child is "innocent" is laughable they lie bully kill cheat. Only society and it's influence teaches them to suppress this as they get older.

they usually only lie because they are scarred they will be punished

example: "Johnny, tell me the truth, did you disobey me and take cookies from the cookie jar?"

"NO!!!!"

"I can tell you are lieing, now I'm going to spank you"


that's really not evil....



Not everyone is a bully. It's usually the kids that have problems at home that take their anger out on others. So really, no, it's not instinct, it's due to a family disfunction. once again your arguement is invalid.


cheating is evil? so you're saying that using a cheatcode in a video game makes me the incarnation of satan? retarded.


as for killing, they usually don't realize that what they are doing is wrong (such as killing ants or whatever). Unless they know that it's wrong, they can't be evil.



As far as child soldiers and brides go I saw why not? It used to be that age 13 was the time you were an adult and could be held responsible. I believe when a girl starts to menstruate she is ready to mate and that is the natural way. Liberal theories on children and sex are not based on nature and reality.

Yeah, I'm sure every parent wants to see their children blown up by grenades.

go fuck yourself.

[Trix Are For Kids]

Parents just don't beat their kids like they used to. I mean within reason. Can't be showing kids the buckle end of the belt just because they were born.

Discipline is seen as 'emotionally scarring' and associated with similiar psychological bullshit. In college I was just amazed at the utter stupidity and lack of respect all around. Our society is really just raising more applicants for the welfare system, because they're raised with the idea that 'everybody's equal' and 'you can be whatever you want to be'.

Bullshit, if you try it and you suck, it's not anybody's fault other than your own.

Arg.

This. My father beat me, and I'm damn glad he did. It helped me out an imperial shit-ton.

[Nightshade]

Well my question is why you have to be 20+ years old to beat the shit out of a teenager?

Teenagers seem to do that job pretty well just by themselves.

[Frosty]

I'd like to think we were all ankle-biters at some point. How would you like to get the living shit beaten out of you just because a thought crossed some asshole's mind when you were walking past them?

It's bullshit. If they are disrespecting them teach them a lesson; if it continues, considerably teach them the same lesson until they "understand" their fault in the matter. If not, then don't fuck with them. You were them once. Get over it.

I used to be a teenage rocker slut back in the day. And I was never beaten or hated by other women. And now you have girls doing weed and dressing like strippers, but they don't start shit with me. So, don't fuck with them and they don't fuck with you. If they do, it's time for a beat-down, or a good 7-hole gang-rape.

Eye Sockets, Oral, Urethral, Vaginal, Uterus through her fucking Cervix, and Anal. Make her fucking understand the meaning of being a slut. Bitches.

[upinsmoke]

Youths are possibly the biggest burden on society these days; they cannot be trusted, they're disrespectful, cost money in terms of vandalism and anti-social behaviour and on the whole they are fucking retarded, clueless and too cheeky for their own good; you only need look on youtube, zoklet, totse, 4chan, facebook, bebo, myspace and in your local high-schools, colleges and what's worse... universities to see this smarmy, disgusting, disrespectful, clueless, hair tearing inducing phenomenon when you witness it. This is called "youth."

Slogging and beatings is what's needed. Work and beat the snottiness (youth) out of these worthless maggots, these parasites who contribute nothing to society economically or otherwise, who just TAKE TAKE TAKE. I'm also sick of this fucking, "children are the future", line of bullshite. "Children are innocent and need to be protected" is complete bullshit. Humans are the most naturally evil animals on the planet, they'll do anything to entertain their curiosity. Children especially; they are bullies, animal abusers, liars, thieves, cheats, pathologically selfish, intimidate old age pensioners, they are only second to women in being the most evil humans on the planet. What saves them, as opposed to women, is that children have character. The concept of childhood innocence and the idea that "the children are our future" has been pushed so much that we are in a society that worships women and children.

As far as that "children are the future" way of thinking, here is an interesting article.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118358476840657463.html

Male adults should have the legal right to beat "youths" because they are both intellectually and biologically inferior to men; given the smaller size of the teenage brain and the fact that they are often under the control of surging hormones, teenagers are incapable of behaving or thinking rationally. They often need to be physically disciplined in order to recognize their subordinate status within the modern order of things. It is because of the fact that men have gradually ceased administering corporal punishment to the youth since the early twentieth century, that such things as liberal multiculturalism and general scumbaggery have been allowed to eat at the moral fabric of today's Western society.

Men must beat children back into factories, mines and chimneys where they belong, even killing them if necessary!

Also if you want to release tension, stress or frustration, the best way to do such is to find a teenager and use them as a punching bag. All snotty, shit-grinning youths make great punching bags; it's a great achievement to knock all of a teenager's teeth out with a single blow. Youths, much like women possess a strong psychological predisposition towards masochism and actually enjoy being beaten up into bloody pulps, provided the sadist is a dominant Alpha male.

The next time you see a teenager/youth/snotty-nosed ugly fucker of the ages 12-17, beat the fucking shit out of them. Break their jaw, nose, teeth, legs and whatever else to keep them in line so that they know their place. For large groups of youths who like to hang around shops outside and bus shelters and in the parks, I'd suggest rounding 2-5 adults and fucking their shit up. If you go alone and find yourself confronted with 10 or so of the bastards, take a homemade flamethrower and watch the cockroaches scatter. Use weapons if you have to destroy them and guarantee broken bones to strike everlasting fear into their minds and hearts. Over time, teenagers will stop being as shit as they are.

Mild attacks should be done as well such as throwing eggs and flour at them; especially when they're in their school uniforms. Just last week me and a couple of friends did a driveby egging on some kids who thought they were hot shit; tonight we're going to the park to steal the "stoner" kids' shit weed and alcohol and consume it infront of them if they don't run off in tears.
I dont care what you say. Come to my neck of the woods and I will beat you shirtless for irritating me

[aweet90]

Just gonna say one thing...that wont turn out well idk about your town but in my town you'd get the shit beaten out of you in a minute so have fun throwing your eggs and beating up kids you jackass...wait until they come after you with all their buddys weilding bats and knives...and who knows maybe even ratchets....to every action theres a reaction....

[JC Denton]

I've been beating up teenagers since elementary school.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

I've been beating up teenagers since elementary school.

http://kenwoode.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/cube01.jpg

[T.K. Baha]

Men must beat children back into factories, mines and chimneys where they belong, even killing them if necessary!




Definitely :muahaha:

[Star Wars Fan]

This thread is so stupid and......just wow.

What OP complains about is nothing new

The trouble with youngsters today...
The expression of alarm over the ways of the young is certainly
nothing new. Many sources attribute a quote about the dreadful
behavior of children to Socrates. Its actual origin is in dispute, but
the dispute is an interesting one:

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

ATTRIBUTION: Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato, according to William L.
Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277
(1953)."


The quote is commonly attributed to Socrates, but apparently there is
no conclusive evidence that he actually said it. The Library of
Congress notes that this quote is "attributed to Socrates by Plato"...

The quote may have come from Plato's Republic Book 4, where Socrates
is quoted saying the following regarding things that he thinks have
been neglected: "I mean such things as these: ? when the young are to
be silent before their elders; how they are to show respect to them by
standing and making them sit; what honour is due to parents; what
garments or shoes are to be worn; the mode of dressing the hair;
deportment and manners in general. You would agree with me? ? Yes."

The Greek philosopher Plato studied under Socrates. Plato complained
about the youth of the day, also. "What is happening to our young
people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They
ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions.
Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?" I think this is
a direct quote, but can't find the reference at the moment.

Here's another one:
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC).
http://askville.amazon.com/Speech-Youth-Today---Plato/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=5088801

[Star Wars Fan]

another example:

Attributes of Kali Yuga

A discourse by Markandeya in the Mahabharata identifies some of the attributes of Kali Yuga:
[edit]In relation to rulers
Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.
Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.
People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.
[edit]In human relationships
Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other.
Ignorance of dharma will occur.
People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.
Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.
Sin will increase exponentially, whilst virtue will fade and cease to flourish.
People will take vows and break them soon after.
People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.
Gurus will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them. Their teachings will be insulted, and followers of Kama will wrest control of the mind from all human beings. Brahmins will not be learned or honoured, Kshatriyas will not be brave, Vaishyas will not be just in their dealings and Shudras will be allotted unreasonable 'caste-based' duties which they will avoid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga#Attributes_of_Kali_Yuga

I'm not even going to touch the bullshit "hurr hurr beat your kids it makes then into men" troll logic.

EDIT: Also how the hell is suppression of child sexuality "liberal" or "feminist" you seem not to have gotten the message but there have been "liberals" and "feminists" who have complained about the criminalization of child sexuality. Don't even try tarring the left like that, I knew a communist group that was pro-child sexuality and pedophilie relationships (Spartacist League, a Trotskyist group that was affiliated w/the Fourth International).

[JC Denton]

OP's post has inspired me to start harassing teenagers on facebook.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229389_1916070454986_1038694878_31960442_2306329_n .jpg

Comments:

Tomasz: pregooo, is it mines ?

Tilly: ‎^ LMAO

Tilly: That kids looks so happy

Monika: He's always happy

Tomasz: im the father :(

Tilly: Fuck your life

Me: I think the happy kids shoes are untied. Has he no shame? and lol is that polanka? can't you juvenile delinquents find better places to loiter and do drugs? oh and congratulations on impregnating your 15 year old girfriend haha

Monika: Shut the fuck up Yan.. Goddamn. And koda isn't pregnant .. And she's 17.

Tomek (left kid in pic with the weird facial expression): yah really stfu cuz your annoying as fuck and you only put a couple words -.- dont comment on my picture if you have nothing nice to say cuz now im pissed off go be a faggot some where else

Monika: I love you tomek ♥

Tomek: ♥

Dakotah (pregnant chick): lol your all fucked up. my bad i stuck my stomach out i didnt know what the fuck was going on. so all of you can go chock on a dick :)

Tomek: im no fucked up -.- im just trying to grab some butt ;)

Dakotah: not you tomek.......... but everyone else.....

Tomek: ok ♥

Dakotah: oh and tilly go to hell...

Monika: lmfao.

Natalia: ahahaha your sneakers

Dakotah: ahahahah i hate you ahahahaha... ha!!

Me: Haha just bustin your balls buddy. I do that to everybody, so don't take it personally.

Tomek: ok idc goo do it somewhere else we dont want you here im not your buddy and your pissing me off -.-

Dakotah: thank you tomek. and im 17 and not pregnant. no one even knows who the fuck you are...............

Tomek: yah excaclly get the fuck out off here -.

Monika: Koda I just said that lmao

Me: Look at it this way. I'll even put it simply. If someone makes fun of you, then he probably WANTS you to get pissed off. If you get mad, HE wins, and you end up looking like a loser with emotional insecurities and vulnerabilities. Are you an ESL student? It's obvious you are trying to do the same, yet failing horribly with your poorly constructed insults consisting of nothing but vulgarities and broken english. So let's try this again: Tomek... you suggested Koda looked pregnant, not me. I think she looked fine. You even joked it was yours, so don't hide behind me. Koda... 17 year old's are just as stupid as 15 year old's, theirs really no significant difference. Overall, teenagers aren't much good for anything. Not good for working, not good for teaching, and not good for talking to... Pretty much not good for anything, except being a burden on society. Although, if we ever run out of food during the impending economic collapse, we could just eat a few of you. Hell, it didn't do me any harm.

Tomek: ok your getting beat up anyone know this kid ? lmao

Dakotah: He just said he was going to eat me tomek..

Lolololz...

They have no idea exactly who or where I am, so I think I should keep going. Any suggestions? I reported the kid with "credible threat of violence" to fb staff for teh lulz. I hope he cries when they they ban him from his social life, and press charges.

[Om Namah Shivaya]

lol facebook

[Captain Falcon]

they are only second to women in being the most evil humans on the planet.

Gay confirmed. Launching surface-to-faggot missiles.

[constantinople]

I'd like to think we were all ankle-biters at some point. How would you like to get the living shit beaten out of you just because a thought crossed some asshole's mind when you were walking past them?

It's bullshit. If they are disrespecting them teach them a lesson; if it continues, considerably teach them the same lesson until they "understand" their fault in the matter. If not, then don't fuck with them. You were them once. Get over it.

I used to be a teenage rocker slut back in the day. And I was never beaten or hated by other women. And now you have girls doing weed and dressing like strippers, but they don't start shit with me. So, don't fuck with them and they don't fuck with you. If they do, it's time for a beat-down, or a good 7-hole gang-rape.

Eye Sockets, Oral, Urethral, Vaginal, Uterus through her fucking Cervix, and Anal. Make her fucking understand the meaning of being a slut. Bitches.

What in the fuck did I just read???????

[Frosty]

I don't know. I was just pissed. Had say some shit. If you didn't understand. I don't blame you. We women are insanely incoherent in times of duress.

[Captain Falcon]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg4sw3FhQb1qbqm4ko1_400.jpg

Fail usage of fail meme. Dumb motherfucker.

[Crazy Polymath]

]
However, teenagers today don't have respect for anything. Not for the environment, the elderly, private property, state property, others... You name it. They think they're everything and everyone should do their liking. THAT'S the problem.

Some of the most well behaved and mature kids I know were raised by a single mother who didn't believe in punishment. They lived up to the expectations she set for them, which were high considering she treated them like they were as worthy as she from the beginning.

On the other hand, almost every fucked up (disrespectful, shallow, druggie, etc)kid I know has strict Christian parents, most of whom spank. Either that or were just poor as hell in some kinda bad neighborhood (most rural neighborhoods are). Or flat out abused.
I feel a little stupid posting a serious response on a troll thread.

I was sort of a different/weird/in-between situation. It's shit like this that makes me glad I'm a tad paranoid. Handcuffs, Krav Maga, not afraid to shove a pencil through the eye socket to damage the brain a bit...

You don't want to go up against a 17 yo chick whose lived on her own in the wilderness and fought off a gang rape--not afraid to do maximum damage in minimum time with whatever's around. (Damn, talk about responsible teenagers. I've fucking foraged and dumpster dived my own food. And done tree sits, if you wanna talk about the environment.) Everytime I hear about someone getting attacked for real or in a movie, I imagine and pantomime the whole scene to debilitate the attacker with what's in the prescribed scene: whether that be a school shooting, alleyway, dude with bomb in a building. Same with first aid (wilderness and urban) scenarios.


Dude, that's so wrong. I wish I didn't have to be this violent minded of a person.

[Cheeze Wizz]

Great idea.

But keep in mind that youthful shitheads have a lot of time on their hands and will retaliate.

Back when I was 13-14 whenever an elder in my neighborhood/area gave me shit they usually woke up to a really fucked up vehicle and/or house.

Never got caught..... Old fucks sleep all night

And as far as whooping on shitheads, just because they're 14-19 doesn't mean they cant fight.

Me and a group of friends used to talk shit to anybody and everybody. Most people would talk a little shit back and every now and then someone would have the balls to make it physical. They would hit or push someone in my crew and immediately they would have 3-6 people hitting them in every direction. We would beat them to the ground until they have had enough and then flee the scene because of

But I will agree that shitheads need the shit kicked out of them.
Just keep in mind some of them aren't as weak and stupid as you think.

[AdMech]

Haha oh God, this thread is such a trainwreck. Look at some of these recent posts. :facepalm: It's like they're trolling themselves.

[JC Denton]

Great idea.

But keep in mind that youthful shitheads have a lot of time on their hands and will retaliate.

Back when I was 13-14 whenever an elder in my neighborhood/area gave me shit they usually woke up to a really fucked up vehicle and/or house.

Never got caught..... Old fucks sleep all night

And as far as whooping on shitheads, just because they're 14-19 doesn't mean they cant fight.

Me and a group of friends used to talk shit to anybody and everybody. Most people would talk a little shit back and every now and then someone would have the balls to make it physical. They would hit or push someone in my crew and immediately they would have 3-6 people hitting them in every direction. We would beat them to the ground until they have had enough and then flee the scene because of

But I will agree that shitheads need the shit kicked out of them.
Just keep in mind some of them aren't as weak and stupid as you think.

I can't tell if you're a troll or just a common 14 year old internet tough guy.

Just wait till your "crew" eventually runs into a psychopathic killer, gets held at gunpoint, beaten silly, wrapped in barbed wire, hung upside down by the genitals, and held hostage until each of your parents pays a ransom. In the video recording, they might tie a bag filled with starved rabid rats over one of your heads, eviscerate your guts with a dull rusted machete before raping your intestines... maybe peel off that frightened look on your face, or inflict other macabre acts of torture, while the rest of you wet your underwear and cry for your mothers.

You think nothing can phase you just because you jerk off to ogrish.com? Just wait till something like that happens to you in reality

Of course, not all people care about their kids. You're lucky most people couldn't live with themselves if they let such things to happen to anyone. In some countries, worse than this happens on an hourly basis and people REALLY don't give a shit about you. Your are just a piece of meat that depletes resources and gives nothing in return. Teenagers in 1st world societies take too much shit for granted and even throw tantrums when their parents or guardians try to protect them from getting addicted to drugs, dropping out of highschool, and ultimately ending up in juvenile hall or a homeless junkie. Please, just do the collective humanity a favor by killing your self. Maybe kill your parents first for good measure.