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Carbonbased
03-15-2009, 07:05 AM
So I for one am tired of hearing how people say "hay I got a GLOW IN THE DARK tattoo" when they really mean "I have a UV REACTIVE tattoo". And after doing some digging I found out that really no one does true glow in the dark tattoos because there is a stigma surrounding glow in the dark tattoo ink, mainly that it contains phosphorus and other nasty that cause all kinds of cancer, most shops won't even tattoo with glow ink for this reason.. Well shit I said! "this is the 21st century we have shit that is nontoxic that glows in the dark!" so I set off on to find something that would work and finally settled on THIS! (http://unitednuclear.com/glow.htm)

It is alumina oxide (AlO3) which is completely inert in the body under normal conditions, so much so that it is used in its ceramic form in prosthetic joints. The alumina is then doped with europium a heavy rare earth metal. this is the only part that I remain slightly wary about, europium IS toxic to a degree, but the amount that will be used for the tattoo will be well less than a gram of pigment so I'm not particularly worried.

The main questions are...
will my body reject the ink?
will the ink be visible in my skin under normal conditions?
will this shit give me cancer (this one may take a while to figure out;)

The pigment is slightly off whit in appearance and about the size of very fine sand, witch is very course for tattoo ink I know.
I have a shop that has agreed to do a small piece with this ink, so my plan is to first wash the pigment with Everclear ethanol in order to remove any oils or debris (this stuff was never meant to be used in vivo after all).
Then put it in a glass vial and autoclave the shit out of it, after that the carrier fluid of the artists choice will be used and the wrest you probably know...

I have pix of the test spot that I ran about a 2 weeks ago and will try to post them tomorrow.

I hope that this Kinda how to thread will help anyone thinking of getting a real glow in the dark tattoo:D

Carbonbased
03-15-2009, 10:22 PM
As promised pictures!
A picture of the powdered pigment on a penny
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9487/img0910w.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0910w.jpg)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/img0910w.jpg/1/w3072.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img6/img0910w.jpg/1/)
Charged and glowing
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2341/img0912t.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0912t.jpg)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/img0912t.jpg/1/w3072.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/img0912t.jpg/1/)
The test line is between the two dots, this is after about 10 days of healing. (yea i know hairy like animal :)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4793/img0902u.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0902u.jpg)
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/img0902u.jpg/1/w2304.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img18/img0902u.jpg/1/)
The test line glowing, It looks allot better than that but my camera is not a low light rig.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/922/img0914tvb.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0914tvb.jpg)
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/img0914tvb.jpg/1/w3072.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img14/img0914tvb.jpg/1/)

Let me know what ya guys have any questions or tell me what ya think:D

Death Snuggle
03-16-2009, 01:54 AM
This could potentially be the next big rage in tattooing. I'm glad to see someone actually doing their homework before jumping into something potentially life threatening.

The only thought I have now is how bad ass that would be if combined with UV reactive ink in the same tattoo. It would make it quite the unique piece, but this is unique as far as I know.

Carbonbased
03-25-2009, 08:23 PM
Sad update on this glow in the dark goodness.

The pigment seems to break down in water, the picture below shows the pigments in the corner of the bag and a film on top as well as a fungus looking growth coming out of it. I think that all of that crap is the europium reacting with the water to form insoluble europium hydroxide, also the solution tested basic supporting this idea. I thought that the europium would be sufficiently sealed in the alumina but apparently not.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9444/pigment.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pigment.jpg)


Thus united nuclear glow pigments is NOT SAFE FOR IN VIVO USE.

However the test patch is not irritated or inflamed and still glows :confused: but that is the still the last that I'll be putting this stuff in my body.

If the powder was coated in polypropylene or something like that to seal it and make it completely intern then we would be on to something ... (can anyone of yall find such a thing??)

Throw any questions ya got at me:D

I Kill Null Airtime
03-25-2009, 09:25 PM
If the powder was coated in polypropylene or something like that to seal it and make it completely intern then we would be on to something ... (can anyone of yall find such a thing??)

This guy (http://feelingwaves.blogspot.com/) got a company to coat magnets with polypropylene, so maybe they could do the same for you.