RebelliousSpirit
08-04-2011, 05:33 PM
I've been reading through a bunch of the tutorials and quite a few of them mention receiving an amazon gift card as a way to get the $$$ from your misfortunate pervert. This is alright if you wish to take on additional risk by receiving an item or if you just want to get stuff, mind you, but I feel that it would be far more elegant if you could just get the equivalent of straight up cash without even leaving the comforts of your computer :grinblunt:
Why E-currency?
If you're not familiar with them, E-currencies such as wmz or liberty reserve are basically unregulated bank accounts that anyone can sign up for. What makes them appealing for our purposes are that they can potentially be completely anonymous through the use of proxies. They're essentially 19th century laissez faire utopias - completely unregulated and once money has been sent there are absolutely no chargebacks.
You buy e-currencies by going through middlemen who trade them through mainly services such as western union, money gram, or occasionally you might find one who takes credit cards though these are exceedingly rare and always require extensive verification because of fraud.
The only real downside is perhaps how confusing it is for laymen to send money. If you're just speedbaiting and going for a bunch of fishes at $50/pop, my fear is that a lot of them would just say fuck you and take their chances if instead of just sending through paypal they had to physically go to a western union and send the money (and then you would be losing money from fees as well)
You might be asking "Well, why not just use Paypal, RebelliousSpirit?"
Paypal is a technical nightmare for anonymously accessing your money. They'll freeze all your money in a heartbeat, not to mention how difficult it is to keep a bunch of verified accounts afloat and ultimately cash out your hard-earned $$$.
So, has anybody dreamed that they tried anything like this?
Help me brainstorm the easiest possible way to send wmz/lr to someone to increase the success rate, or tell me that the idea is dumb/overly complicated and should be scrapped or reserved for more high profile things where a small trip wouldn't deter the pedo.
Why E-currency?
If you're not familiar with them, E-currencies such as wmz or liberty reserve are basically unregulated bank accounts that anyone can sign up for. What makes them appealing for our purposes are that they can potentially be completely anonymous through the use of proxies. They're essentially 19th century laissez faire utopias - completely unregulated and once money has been sent there are absolutely no chargebacks.
You buy e-currencies by going through middlemen who trade them through mainly services such as western union, money gram, or occasionally you might find one who takes credit cards though these are exceedingly rare and always require extensive verification because of fraud.
The only real downside is perhaps how confusing it is for laymen to send money. If you're just speedbaiting and going for a bunch of fishes at $50/pop, my fear is that a lot of them would just say fuck you and take their chances if instead of just sending through paypal they had to physically go to a western union and send the money (and then you would be losing money from fees as well)
You might be asking "Well, why not just use Paypal, RebelliousSpirit?"
Paypal is a technical nightmare for anonymously accessing your money. They'll freeze all your money in a heartbeat, not to mention how difficult it is to keep a bunch of verified accounts afloat and ultimately cash out your hard-earned $$$.
So, has anybody dreamed that they tried anything like this?
Help me brainstorm the easiest possible way to send wmz/lr to someone to increase the success rate, or tell me that the idea is dumb/overly complicated and should be scrapped or reserved for more high profile things where a small trip wouldn't deter the pedo.