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HampTheToker
08-21-2011, 05:30 PM
So, I got copyright infringement notices from Comcast for 4 movies. I never use Peer Guardian or proxies because in 5 years this is the first time I've had an issue with downloading.

Besides installing and using Peer Guardian and setting up a proxy, what other steps can I take to ensure that this NEVER becomes an issue again. I assume that Comcast will be monitoring my traffic a little closer now, so any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

ChinaCat
08-21-2011, 05:36 PM
are they threatening you with anything or just telling you not to do it again?

The Duke
08-21-2011, 05:43 PM
Which movies?

is all mememememe with me
08-21-2011, 06:11 PM
use pay as you go mobile broadband just for downloading your movies. its what i have, if anything comes back and becomes a problem i just go and buy a new chip and start with a completely new account.

SteamPunk
08-21-2011, 06:13 PM
How do they normally send you these notices? My friend's been pirating a lot and never recieved a notice.

Dose Me
08-21-2011, 06:21 PM
This is why I dont download movies...they seem the be the only thing that can get you in shit these days.

Stick to music...or keep signing up for Netflix free trials or something. There's so many other ways to get/watch movies that wont get you in trouble.

Download music.

HampTheToker
08-21-2011, 06:35 PM
The Fighter
Super 8
Battle: Los Angeles
Pirates (lol) of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

Got a notice for each of them. Here's one of them

Notice of Action under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act

Abuse Incident Number: NA0000029863980
Report Date/Time: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:30:36 -0700


F***** B***
**** ******* **
MURFREESBORO, TN *********


Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Subscriber:

Comcast has received a notification by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, reporting an alleged infringement of one or more copyrighted works made on or over Comcast's High-Speed Internet service (the 'Service'). The copyright owner has identified the Internet Protocol ('IP') address associated with your Service account at the time as the source of the infringing works. The works identified by the copyright owner in its notification are listed below. Comcast reminds you that use of the Service (or any part of the Service) in any manner that constitutes an infringement of any copyrighted work is a violation of Comcast's Acceptable Use Policy and may result in the suspension or termination of your Service account.

If you have any questions regarding this notice, you may direct them to Comcast in writing by sending a letter or e-mail to:

Comcast Customer Security Assurance
Comcast Cable Communications, LLC
1800 Bishops Gate Blvd., 3rd Floor East Wing
Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 U.S.A.
Phone: (888) 565-4329
Fax: (856) 324-2940

For more information regarding Comcast's copyright infringement policy, procedures, and contact information, please read our Acceptable Use Policy by clicking on the Terms of Service link at http://www.comcast.net.

Sincerely,
Comcast Customer Security Assurance

Copyright work(s) identified in the notification of claimed infringement:

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-157535776
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 14 Aug 2011 12:35:02 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 14 Aug 2011 12:35:02 GMT
Infringers IP Address: **.***.**.**
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Super 8
Infringed Work: Super 8
Infringing File Name: Super.8.2011.DVDSCR.XViD-TARD
Infringing File Size: 1025107484
Bay ID: d3e82c55b1aa2cfd5241d30e200a4b5218af0d81|102510748 4
Port ID: *****
Infringer's DNS Name: *-**-***-**-**.****.**.*******.***
Infringer's User Name:

HampTheToker
08-21-2011, 06:49 PM
Right now it looks as if they are only threatening suspension or termination of service. Hopefully it stays that way.

I do download music. Plenty of it. Software and ebooks as well. The movie industry is the only one that gets really butthurt about it these days because they're all greedy fucks. Seems like the RIAA has really let off music downloaders. Fuck Hollywood.

I don't distribute any of it. You'd figure they would spend their time and energy going after the real pirates that make up the overwhelming majority of any loss of income at the hands of copyright infringement.

Any more suggestions that relate to masking my trail while using utorrent? The other tips are pretty good, but I'd rather fix the flat instead of buying a brand new car if ya catch my drift...

mafiabro
08-21-2011, 06:56 PM
Comcast caught me once too, they didn't do much except call and make me say sorry i wont do it again blah blah. They dont continue to monitor you.

Oh and i got caught because it was a public tracker, so just stick to private ones.

plehem12
08-21-2011, 06:59 PM
i got comcast and got the same shit a while back. they lowered my bandwidth or some shit for a month. i did a LOT of downloading before i came over here. but it is interesting, as i downloaded tons and tons of tv shows to watch (south park, simpsons, etc every season) and some not so new movies. they didnt give a shit about that. i downloaded two or three new movies thatd just hit theaters and whatnot that i wanted to see but wouldnt be around for, and we got the notice for that. wife likes to download stuff too after i showed her how to use utorrent. so after our bandwidth came back and we didnt give a shit anymore and she was bored home alone and whatnot she started downloading a bunch of shit she likes. bunches of tv shows, she likes older movies like stephen king and shit. nothing happened. then she sees a couple commercials for some new movies she wants to see and decides to download them, and the internet company gets all huffy again.

so while i dont know (or really havent bothered to find out) a way around it, i have figured out that they only give a fuck about new stuff

elf omg
08-21-2011, 06:59 PM
Tell them their evidence is unreliable at best and as a paying customer you don't appreciate being treated like a criminal, especially when you haven't done anything wrong.

HampTheToker
08-21-2011, 07:19 PM
I think I'll probably be just fine with Peer Guardian, proxies, and private trackers. But, I'm still open to any more suggestions.

I have a child that I'm still fighting a custody case to keep. I can't afford to get screwed by a copyright case. Shit would not look good at all in court.

I'm definitely not going to tell them their evidence is unreliable and play the angry righteous customer role...unless I can back up that claim.

What about their evidence makes it unreliable? Give me something to go on here, if you don't mind.

A$AP Weed Smoker
08-21-2011, 07:23 PM
I got one 2 years ago from the MPAA, for either "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" or "Zack and Miri Make A Porno" and it used alot of verbose legalese to basically explain there COULD BE a fine of up to $200,000 or some shit but it was a warning this time. i basically learned to not download anything new.

Raziel
08-23-2011, 07:19 AM
An encrypted VPN tunnel should provide total protection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

Some VPN providers:
http://www.blacklogic.com/
http://www.acevpn.com/
http://www.barracudanetworks.com
http://www.powervpn.com/

007GoldenShower
08-23-2011, 07:21 AM
lol @ backwater censored internet

&Zenith
08-23-2011, 07:28 AM
What about their evidence makes it unreliable? Give me something to go on here, if you don't mind.

Hand of Zek has no idea what he's talking about. As it stands, they are not threatening legal action. The courts will not care if your Comcast subscription was terminated, no matter what the reason. If you push them, they're more likely to push back. Ignore it or apologize for it, I imagine it doesn't matter unless they begin threatening legal action.

Pathfinder
08-23-2011, 07:47 AM
Tell them you have an unprotected wifi set up. Bastard neighbors.

zuperxtreme
08-23-2011, 04:39 PM
warez-bb + jdownloader :)

Mutant Funk Drink
08-24-2011, 05:46 AM
If you're getting caught downloading, then you aren't doing it right.

There's no reason you shouldn't be running Peer Guardian or using a torrent program that has blocklists. It won't do you very much good, but you should be using it when torrenting.

Also, only use torrents if you can't find a movie anywhere else. Look for direct download links first(megaupload/rapidshare/mediafire). Use jDownloader to download movies with multiple links. Use a proxy if you like, although it may not be necessary.

If you still want to use mainly torrents, only use private trackers, or get a BTguard or IPRedator subscription. But that costs money.

EDIT: Change your taste in movies. Also don't torrent anything less than 2 years old. Recent movies are more dangerous to be torrenting and you'll likely get a cease & desist in the mail. If you MUST download the latest piece of Hollywood tripe, use a direct link or settle for watching it on tvshack.bz.

Malcolm Equis
08-24-2011, 05:53 AM
peer guardian waste of time.

if you really want security get a seedbox seedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxs eedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxse edboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxsee dboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseed boxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedb oxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedbo xseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedbox seedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxs eedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxse edboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxsee dboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseed boxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedb oxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedbo xseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedboxseedbox

Malcolm Equis
08-24-2011, 05:56 AM
An encrypted VPN tunnel should provide total protection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network

Some VPN providers:
http://www.blacklogic.com/
http://www.acevpn.com/
http://www.barracudanetworks.com
http://www.powervpn.com/

seedboxes are cheaper and u can use most of them as SSH tunnels as well.

Hydroponichronic
08-24-2011, 05:57 AM
Out of curiosity, is there any way for an ISP to know if you download streaming files? (ie, go into the page source code, and find the direct flv file link, then click "save linked file"?) Also, streaming is still not illegal, right?

-MDMA-
08-24-2011, 06:00 AM
Also, PeerBlock.

Akagi
08-24-2011, 06:07 AM
You're not going to get a notification for streaming.

Kwinnie Bogan
08-24-2011, 06:14 AM
I did and epic amount of pirating (movies, music, books) over the course of several months, leading up to my ISP sending me both an email and a letter relaying that someone had alerted them about infringing upon their copyright and threatening legal action if not rectified.

I examined the letter, found out the company that made the complaint was Winzip, and lol'd heartily. Apparently one of the discographies I downloaded included a trial-version of Winzip that had run it's time and been cracked.





After I stopped laughing I replied to my ISP saying I legitimately thought Win-zip was share-ware and pointed out that their website at the time didn't make anything obvious enough. I've been using winrar ever since (which, by the way, isn't shareware either - ironically ;)).

HampTheToker
08-24-2011, 06:36 AM
I did and epic amount of pirating (movies, music, books) over the course of several months, leading up to my ISP sending me both an email and a letter relaying that someone had alerted them about infringing upon their copyright and threatening legal action if not rectified.

I examined the letter, found out the company that made the complaint was Winzip, and lol'd heartily. Apparently one of the discographies I downloaded included a trial-version of Winzip that had run it's time and been cracked.





After I stopped laughing I replied to my ISP saying I legitimately thought Win-zip was share-ware and pointed out that their website at the time didn't make anything obvious enough. I've been using winrar ever since (which, by the way, isn't shareware either - ironically ;)).

Lulz.

I appreciate all the helpful replies and experiences. I've been downloading for like a decade and this is the first time I've ever had any issue with d/ling files that were being tracked. I'll definitely use the suggestions posted and change my downloading/viewing habits.

Also, I think it was Super 8 had a digital watermark that said "Property of H. Stern." I couldn't help but lol at the possibility of Howard Stern's advance screener being leaked to the internet with his name on it.

zuperxtreme
08-24-2011, 01:05 PM
Out of curiosity, is there any way for an ISP to know if you download streaming files? (ie, go into the page source code, and find the direct flv file link, then click "save linked file"?) Also, streaming is still not illegal, right?

Nope. It's regular HTTP traffic.

Asheville
08-24-2011, 01:25 PM
If you're getting caught downloading, then you aren't doing it right.

There's no reason you shouldn't be running Peer Guardian or using a torrent program that has blocklists. It won't do you very much good, but you should be using it when torrenting.

Also, only use torrents if you can't find a movie anywhere else. Look for direct download links first(megaupload/rapidshare/mediafire). Use jDownloader to download movies with multiple links. Use a proxy if you like, although it may not be necessary.

If you still want to use mainly torrents, only use private trackers, or get a BTguard or IPRedator subscription. But that costs money.

EDIT: Change your taste in movies. Also don't torrent anything less than 2 years old. Recent movies are more dangerous to be torrenting and you'll likely get a cease & desist in the mail. If you MUST download the latest piece of Hollywood tripe, use a direct link or settle for watching it on tvshack.bz.

why doesn't peerguardian help?

Dread_Lord
08-24-2011, 01:26 PM
Get another provider. Fuck Comcast.

zuperxtreme
08-24-2011, 01:29 PM
why doesn't peerguardian help?

Because the fucks harvesting downloader IP's can download PeerGuardian and use an IP not on its blacklist...

a334jv2df
08-24-2011, 01:37 PM
Notice of Action under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act

Abuse Incident Number: NA0000029863980
Report Date/Time: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:30:36 -0700


F***** B***
**** ******* **
MURFREESBORO, TN *********


Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Subscriber:

Comcast has received a notification by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, reporting an alleged infringement of one or more copyrighted works made on or over Comcast's High-Speed Internet service (the 'Service'). The copyright owner has identified the Internet Protocol ('IP') address associated with your Service account at the time as the source of the infringing works. The works identified by the copyright owner in its notification are listed below. Comcast reminds you that use of the Service (or any part of the Service) in any manner that constitutes an infringement of any copyrighted work is a violation of Comcast's Acceptable Use Policy and may result in the suspension or termination of your Service account.

If you have any questions regarding this notice, you may direct them to Comcast in writing by sending a letter or e-mail to:

Comcast Customer Security Assurance
Comcast Cable Communications, LLC
1800 Bishops Gate Blvd., 3rd Floor East Wing
Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 U.S.A.
Phone: (888) 565-4329
Fax: (856) 324-2940

For more information regarding Comcast's copyright infringement policy, procedures, and contact information, please read our Acceptable Use Policy by clicking on the Terms of Service link at http://www.comcast.net.

Sincerely,
Comcast Customer Security Assurance

Copyright work(s) identified in the notification of claimed infringement:

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-157535776
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 14 Aug 2011 12:35:02 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 14 Aug 2011 12:35:02 GMT
Infringers IP Address: **.***.**.**
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringed Work: Super 8
Infringed Work: Super 8
Infringing File Name: Super.8.2011.DVDSCR.XViD-TARD
Infringing File Size: 1025107484
Bay ID: d3e82c55b1aa2cfd5241d30e200a4b5218af0d81|102510748 4
Port ID: *****
Infringer's DNS Name: *-**-***-**-**.****.**.*******.***
Infringer's User Name:

Quoted in case someone else warns you how easy it is to call comcaste only the notice ID number and get all your PI

HampTheToker
08-24-2011, 02:50 PM
Quoted in case someone else warns you how easy it is to call comcaste only the notice ID number and get all your PI

Do I gives a fuck?

Besides they request an account pin, I'm pretty sure.

Ed Lister
08-24-2011, 03:21 PM
I did and epic amount of pirating (movies, music, books) over the course of several months, leading up to my ISP sending me both an email and a letter relaying that someone had alerted them about infringing upon their copyright and threatening legal action if not rectified.

I examined the letter, found out the company that made the complaint was Winzip, and lol'd heartily. Apparently one of the discographies I downloaded included a trial-version of Winzip that had run it's time and been cracked.





After I stopped laughing I replied to my ISP saying I legitimately thought Win-zip was share-ware and pointed out that their website at the time didn't make anything obvious enough. I've been using winrar ever since (which, by the way, isn't shareware either - ironically ;)).

Google Peazip man. Only one you'll ever need and is free and badass.

Obbe
08-24-2011, 03:31 PM
Quoted just to be an asshole

fix'd

HampTheToker
08-24-2011, 06:25 PM
Fixed.

Fixt.

Mutant Funk Drink
08-24-2011, 09:08 PM
why doesn't peerguardian help?

Because it's really not that hard to just set up a computer somewhere and record the peer IPs on a torrent. Hell, if I were working for the MAFIAA, I would just pay some kids to bring their laptops to McDicks and use the free wifi to torrent shit and record IP addresses while they're at it.

Peerguardian will help to a degree, but it shouldn't give you a false sense of security. I bet it hardly even works. Changing your downloading habits will do more for you than Peerguardian.

5.56 SS109
08-24-2011, 09:12 PM
They are pretty new movies, I could see why they would've caught you.

LegalEnjoy
08-24-2011, 09:14 PM
You all should get a demonoid, albeit it isnt perfect.

Fuzzadelic
08-25-2011, 02:43 AM
Peer guardian is old and gay. There's a more high-tech awesomer program out called peerblock, use it. It is the only thing you need. Simply run it and check for updates before you torrent your movies. It is highly reccomended on many of the popular torrent sites such as TBP

Mutant Funk Drink
08-25-2011, 01:50 PM
Peer guardian is old and gay. There's a more high-tech awesomer program out called peerblock, use it. It is the only thing you need. Simply run it and check for updates before you torrent your movies. It is highly reccomended on many of the popular torrent sites such as TBP

Deluge also has a blocklist plugin built-in that works with the same lists used by peer guardian and peerblock. It's my favorite torrent client.

Mor3BL7
08-25-2011, 02:00 PM
Find a site that only does megaupload files to download... or, simply stream.. www.letmewatchthis.ch

The Greek
08-25-2011, 02:10 PM
You guys are way over paranoid. Just use demonoid and don't download movies still in theaters. I don't download anything until its a dvd rip (for quality reasons) and I've yet to have a problem.

Hi-Guy
08-28-2011, 04:19 AM
Quoted in case someone else warns you how easy it is to call comcaste only the notice ID number and get all your PI

All that information under "Evidentiary information" was collected by the complaining party and sent TO the ISP. It was not volunteered by the ISP.

Irukanji
08-28-2011, 05:16 AM
Email them, tell them your internet was hacked and that you are working to resolve the unintended connection issues.

Star Wars Fan
08-28-2011, 05:21 AM
download off fileshare sites like rapidshare. I know this guy who did that after HE got a similar disconnect for torrenting stargate episodes.

Ed Lister
08-28-2011, 06:50 AM
download off fileshare sites like rapidshare. I know this guy who did that after HE got a similar disconnect for torrenting stargate episodes.

Anyone who is caught wasting bandwidth by downloading crap like Stargate should just be banned from having an internet connection.

HampTheToker
08-28-2011, 07:51 PM
Find a site that only does megaupload files to download... or, simply stream.. www.letmewatchthis.ch

What are some more good sites for streaming? I usually only watch TV shows at project-free-tv.com or however it's called. My sister found it, so I just bookmarked it and never really paid attention to how it's actually spelled/labeled.

I think I'll just set up a proxy and/or use a VPN for downloading movies. I like being able to download and burn so I can watch movies on my TV instead of at my computer.

This is a good thread for linkage to alternative downloading and streaming websites for anyone that needs the resources to stay off the MPAA's radar.

I appreciate all that have been posted already on behalf of myself and anyone who has had this same problem and those looking to avoid it happening to them as well. Thanks for all the input guys.

Haiti's Space Agency
08-28-2011, 07:56 PM
www.tvshack.bz