Hip-Hop/Rap

[all_for_war]

Do you like hip-hop/rap? if not why? if so what artists do you like?

[xxdeetsxx]

No! It was good in the 80s, then it became commercial and took a turn for the retarded.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

Mobb Deep
Onyx
Capone N Noreaga
Big Pun

[all_for_war]

No! It was good in the 80s, then it became commercial and took a turn for the retarded.

sure you can generalize like that. there is still good rap.

[RwithTF]

I don't really like the rap these days with the Auto-Tune shit and all of that. But, sure there are some songs that have come out recently that I really enjoy and hope that there is more of soon to come. But mostly some 90's and lates 80's is the way to go.

[lostmyface]

i enjoy rap alot. not so much the pop-y billboard 100 stuff, but more of the underground stuff. like mf doom, dead prez, immortal technique, buck 65, and black star.

but i even like some of that billboard stuff. its fun to dance to an fun to drive to. fuck you haters, quite trying to act cool.

[mongooseman028]

lupe fiasco is the best rapper currently making music. if you dont agree listen to "gotta eat" from the cool. the whole song is an extended metaphor for cheeseburgers.

[Knife in The Knight]

Not a big fan of rap but, I gotta say that I do enjoy the occantional story rap i.e. You Never know by Immortal technique or cast a light by plan b.


Most of the big commerial ring-tone rappers are good dance music but, nothing beyond that. I don't listen to that rap unless I'm at a party :/

[real low mind]

Some stuff I like, besides all the widely loved classics like Biggie, Wu-Tang, etc.:

DITC dudes, esp. Showbiz & A.G.'s Runaway Slave
Boot Camp Clik dudes, esp. Smif-N-Wessun's Dah Shinin
Get Low Records (SF) dudes, esp. first Get Low Playaz album
Slim Thug
MOP
old Kool Keith
almost anything J Dilla related
Invincible
our own burgeoning beatbaker Aludin, who I learned about a bunch of good rap from
Freddie Foxxx
Peanut Butter Wolf
Scientifik

No! It was good in the 80s, then it became commercial and took a turn for the retarded.

You gotta be kidding me. There was good '80s rap here and there, but most of it was tame as fuck and generally pretty boring.

[AtrainV]

There's plenty of good Hip Hop/Rap out there, and it's always growing. However, there's an equal and opposite force that is much more readily apparent (top 40 hip hop/rap).

Every now and then, a gem will pop up on top 40 radio, but it has been commercialized to the point where the music becomes a distant second to the image (even considering how intertwined image and hip hop have always been).

Check out Spank Rock for some recent stuff that's been influencing a lot of the underground scene in the last few years.

Moreover, if you're more into the Rap side of the genre rather than Hip Hop, the Rhymesayers catalog is a good place to start.

If you're up to the search, you can find plenty of good new music, and along the way you'll encounter their influences (Black Star was mentioned above, and Tribe Called Quest is fairly ubiquitous... as is Nas).

One that doesn't get enough exposure, in my opinion, is Del Tha Funkee Homosapien.

[ScaryGary]

my favorite rappers are:

Big L
KRS-One
Rakim
Nas (primarily "Illmatic")
and no one could deny enjoying selects by Eminem. don't even.

my favorite producers (as far as rap) are DJ Premier and Dr Dre. upon first hearing a Timbaland production I liked him alot, but it's really all the same after too long. that constant vintage woodblock groove, orch strings and distinctive snare. really cool at first. so obvious it's him, anymore.

[Chemical Intercourse]

I fucking love hip hop. if it where a woman i would make sweet passionate love to it.


Most of it now days is shit. But the old school shit never gets old. Ill listen to that stuff forever.

[Thought Riot]

I'm looking to expand. Here's what I listen to:

Atmosphere
Eyedea
A Tribe Called Quest
Public Enemy (mainly because of the Bring The Noise thing with Anthrax...)

[AtrainV]

Thought Riot, you might find Aesop Rock to be right up your alley. Also, give Cage a shot.

[Born/Dead]

Big L, MOP, Mobb Deep's first record, Dead Prez, Wu-Tang forever.

[Semper Amor]

Yes, I like it. I try to stay away from mainstream stuff, unless it's decent. I'll still listen to;
Eminem
Tupac
Wu-Tang
DMX

Some more unknown stuff is;
DZK (Everything)
Necro (Dirty Gangster)
MC Chris (Nerdcore)
MC Frontalot (Nerdcore)
MC Hawking (Nerdcore)
Saul Williams (Everything)
Matisyahu (Jewish rap)
Jedi Mind Tricks (Good gangster)
Hilltop Hoods (Good gangster)
Atmosphere (Life stuff)

[DJ Crimson]

Blah Blah

[ScaryGary]

I seen The Roots at Bonnaroo year before last (they opened for Tool, oddly). one of the best shows I've ever seen (out of the hundreds).

I wasn't too excited to hear of Jimmy Fallon taking over Late Night once Conan moves on to The Tonight Show, until I learned that The Roots were to be his in-house band. total rule.

[driveby]

my favorite rappers are:

Big L
KRS-One
Rakim
Nas (primarily "Illmatic")
and no one could deny enjoying selects by Eminem. don't even.

my favorite producers (as far as rap) are DJ Premier and Dr Dre. upon first hearing a Timbaland production I liked him alot, but it's really all the same after too long. that constant vintage woodblock groove, orch strings and distinctive snare. really cool at first. so obvious it's him, anymore.

I remember you from two thousand, and four...

And rap is the only type of music I have ever listened to, or know about.

[citronella]

yeah i really enjoy rap. but not the obviously shitty stuff like soulja boy or whatever his name is. i like stuff like immortal technique & jedi mind tricks which is really thoughtful and has substance. i also like dead prez, biggie, and dr. dre a lot. because they're good rappers :)

[Azure]

Why can't you faggots go one rap thread without mentioning that overrated piece of Peruvian shit, Immortal Technique?

Get over the buzz, he's fucking garbage.

[Wizzle]

Yea, Some of it.

[skinny love]

immortal technique is a shitty rapper with bad flow, but i give him credit for trying to be politically aware (even though he's still a homophobic idiot)

i've been listening to a tribe called quest, common, dalek, and even a lil three 6 mafia lately.

[Cliche Guevara]

^ i live my life according to the low end theory.

[The Jitterskull]

I personally cannot stand it/extract no pleasure from it.

It would be a valid music form, for as if someone truly likes it-- then it's valid. Sadly, many people are posers in hip-hop which doesn't help.

(PS: You can tell if you're a poser or not by how much you listen to it. If you listen to it alone at night, quiet so no one can hear... and to the point where it cuts into your sleep time... that may be an indicator of true love of the music. If you do it for attention or blast it when girls/people are around-- maybe you're one).

[thoughtDOTexecute]

modern rap is retarded.....bunch of sirens, bells, and whistles over sum bass with a nigger blabbing (in rhyme) about hoes, crack, and being a "gangsta"
.......music should expand the mind not stupefy it...

[all_for_war]

I personally cannot stand it/extract no pleasure from it.

It would be a valid music form, for as if someone truly likes it-- then it's valid. Sadly, many people are posers in hip-hop which doesn't help.

(PS: You can tell if you're a poser or not by how much you listen to it. If you listen to it alone at night, quiet so no one can hear... and to the point where it cuts into your sleep time... that may be an indicator of true love of the music. If you do it for attention or blast it when girls/people are around-- maybe you're one).

im actually a bit ashamed to tell people that i listen to rap cuz kids in middle school would always tease kids that listen to rap(if they were white) wangsta or white chocolate

[all_for_war]

modern rap is retarded.....bunch of sirens, bells, and whistles over sum bass with a nigger blabbing (in rhyme) about hoes, crack, and being a "gangsta"
.......music should expand the mind not stupefy it...

lol all music is about drugs, hoes(girls) or being tough.

[Semper Amor]

lol all utter shit music is about drugs, hoes(girls) or being tough.

Fixed.

[skyclaw441]

American rap has recently gone to hell excepting Eminem, who is quickly on his way to going there. I listen to mainly foreign hip hop. My favorite hip hop right now is a defunct Korean duo from the '90s called DEUX, who split after one of their members was murdered by their girlfriend (that's one hardcore bitch, I say).

http://www.imeem.com/raynesarazaki/music/PZwmJXaw/deux_we_are/ "We Are", one of their most popular songs.

[faze2]

I've always listened to rap/hip-hop, ever since I was a kid.
Kanye West
Common
Lil Wayne
Ludacris
Jay-Z
Notorious B.I.G.
2 Pac
Lupe Fiasco
Dr. Dre
Ice Cube
Bone Thugz-N-Harmony
Busta Rhymes
T.I.
Rick Ross
N.E.R.D.
Lil Scrappy

I know there is more, but can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

[Caramello Koala]

A Few Notable Albums From the Hip-Hop Goldmine.

Big L - Lifestyles Ov Da Poor & Dangerous/The Big Picture

Ghostface Killah - Fishscale/Ironman/Supreme Clientele

GP WU - Don't Go Against the Grain

Gravediggaz - 6 Feet Deep

GZA - Liquid Swords/Grandmasters/Words From the Genius

Inspectah Deck - Uncontrolled Substance

Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt

Killah Priest - Heavy Mental

Killarmy - Dirty Weaponry/Fear Love & War/Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars

Method Man - Tical

Mobb Deep - Hell On Earth/The Infamous

Nas - Illmatic

Notorious B.I.G - Ready To Die

Ol' Dirty Bastard - Return to the 36th Chamber

Raekwon - Only Built For Cuban Linx

RZA/Bobby Digital - Bobby Digital in Stereo/Digital Bullet

Shyhiem - The Lost Generation/Manchild

Sunz of Man - The Last Shall Be First

A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory/People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm

Wu Syndicate - Wu Syndicate

Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)/Iron Flag/Killa Beez: The Swarm Vol 1/The Lost Anthology/The W/Wu-Tang Clan & Friends - Unreleased/Wu-Tang Forever

[Cliche Guevara]

RZA is good, Bobby Digital not so good.

[Caramello Koala]

this is true, most of bobby digital's stuff is pretty whack. but you can't deny that there are a few good songs on those albums, such as:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dfNaTmcYqvs

[Born/Dead]

RZA is good, Bobby Digital not so good.

rza is bobby digital....?

[Azure]

rza is bobby digital....?

He's saying that the BD releases were shitty...the albums under the pseudonym of RZA were good.

[Monkmaster]

I consider Run DMC a guilty pleasure of mine. I can't appreciate anything else within the genre.

[Born/Dead]

He's saying that the BD releases were shitty...the albums under the pseudonym of RZA were good.

mmm. he refers to himself as bobby in a few wu tang tracks that are the shit... most noticeably in protect ya neck (the jump off)

[Tokerface]

yeah heaps of it is awesome.
Then again, heaps of it sucks.

Lil wayne, t-pain etc. cant even use their own shitty voices so they need a computer to do it for them

[playitslick]

I dont like very much rap that comes out these days. I gravitate more towards 90's rap and shit. Especially stuff like DJ Screw and SPM, I do like some Lil Wayne though.

[Azure]

mmm. he refers to himself as bobby in a few wu tang tracks that are the shit... most noticeably in protect ya neck (the jump off)

Overall the BD alias was shitty, not saying there weren't a couple decent tracks, but in general it doesn't compare to the RZA releases.

[Born/Dead]

Overall the BD alias was shitty, not saying there weren't a couple decent tracks, but in general it doesn't compare to the RZA releases.

fair enough.