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Hyper-dimension
03-24-2009, 11:16 PM
I have no objective arguments to contribute, I'm merely interested in what everyone thinks.

I don't think anyone can really know how long these religions may last, but it could be fun to speculate.

I've also limited the list to religions with > 10 million adherents.

Mashleshmash
03-24-2009, 11:52 PM
Christianity

7i8_Dago
03-24-2009, 11:59 PM
hitler hit the jews REALLY hard for them to have been knocked to last place in the major religion chart

Ambient
03-25-2009, 01:21 AM
Islam will be one of the last; because it is growing so fast currently.

Judeasm i think because it lacks transcadental nature; it can hardly be called a world religion when its adherants mostly belong to a specific culture; it lacks universality so it will only grow as much as the jewish (cultural) population.

Also it is the smallest on the list, so at face value it seems the logical choice.

Star Wars Fan
03-25-2009, 02:15 AM
Christianity, Judaism and Islam. all three in a similar time period. They all become some massive Abrahamic group and stop fighting each other, at least to the extent they are now (closer to catholic vs. protestant arguments in the USA)

0omnidirectional
03-25-2009, 03:31 AM
The only way I see a major religion dieing is with the end of the world.

danmega
03-25-2009, 03:42 AM
Christianity, Judaism and Islam. all three in a similar time period. They all become some massive Abrahamic group and stop fighting each other, at least to the extent they are now (closer to catholic vs. protestant arguments in the USA)

Smartest thing I've heard all day. I'd adhere to an abrahamic religion, this in-fighting of his descendants just seems so fucking retarded.

I voted sikhism, because it seems to be a limited one... if you put a hindu, a sikh and a muslim in front of me, no way in hell I could tell the difference, seems natural it'd get swallowed up by the larger religions.

Ambient
03-25-2009, 07:29 AM
Christianity, Judaism and Islam. all three in a similar time period. They all become some massive Abrahamic group and stop fighting each other, at least to the extent they are now (closer to catholic vs. protestant arguments in the USA)

Ba'hai

Star Wars Fan
03-25-2009, 07:41 AM
Ba'hai

that's a more liberal version of Islam, isn't it. It's so different it's considered a different religion by many.

Smartest thing I've heard all day. I'd adhere to an abrahamic religion, this in-fighting of his descendants just seems so fucking retarded.

lol. indeed.

I voted sikhism, because it seems to be a limited one... if you put a hindu, a sikh and a muslim in front of me, no way in hell I could tell the difference, seems natural it'd get swallowed up by the larger religions.

Sikhs often carry swords or daggers, as a ceremonial thing at least. You can tell Hindus from Muslims in that the Hindue and Muslims stay apart and hate each other :p

Mantikore
03-25-2009, 07:47 AM
i would consider the "major" religions to only include:

Christianity
Islam
Judaism
Hinduism
Buddhism

however, i dont see any of the religions dying out any time soon. Its not like the past where seeing some star in the sky could convert an entire empire. There are lots of poor people in the world, and poor people usually stick to religions. Various religious nexa (plural of nexus?) for all these religions that dont seem to be going anywhere anytime soon.

If i were to bet money on how any religion would die out, my personal guess is that the world falls under the heel of a NWO type government which banishes religion.

ArmsMerchant
03-25-2009, 07:19 PM
"I voted sikhism, because it seems to be a limited one... if you put a hindu, a sikh and a muslim in front of me, no way in hell I could tell the difference, seems natural it'd get swallowed up by the larger religions. "

The Sikh is the guy with the big beard, the turban, and the dagger.

Take away the turban and the dagger, and you might have an Amishman.

Trix Are For Kids
03-25-2009, 07:22 PM
Islam will be one of the last; because it is growing so fast currently.

Judeasm i think because it lacks transcadental nature; it can hardly be called a world religion when its adherants mostly belong to a specific culture; it lacks universality so it will only grow as much as the jewish (cultural) population.

Also it is the smallest on the list, so at face value it seems the logical choice.

I agree with this, sadly I am Jewish :(

Bensozia
03-25-2009, 07:45 PM
Judaism will go first. Jews are playing a very dangerous game with the rest of the world. By constantly annoying other people and by trying to be considered as innocent victims, they might just end up as this.

Islam will be one of the last due to its aggressive nature, with Christianity which can still hold its own.

Buddhism might also last due to the Asians' numeral supremacy and their unwillingness to bow down before Westerners.

ZeroMalarki
03-25-2009, 10:40 PM
Sikhism. Judaism is gonna be around for a good long while the way the whole thing is going.

Yggdrasil
03-25-2009, 10:47 PM
Judaism without a doubt. No other (major) religion has such a limited base of worshipers as does Judaism. In addition, antisemitism runs deep amongst many in the world, and conveniently, half the world's Jews are packed together into a narrow strip of land surrounded by people who would willingly kill themselves just to kill a Jew.

Iran's first target if and when it gets nukes will be Israel. No two ways around it.

Ultimately, I see most, if not all of organized religion fading into the history books, much like Roman or Norse (hooray!) mythology

Ambient
03-26-2009, 03:45 AM
that's a more liberal version of Islam, isn't it. It's so different it's considered a different religion by many.


It is a different religion, and with 6 million followers i wonder why judeasm is mentioned as an abrahamic conception and Ba'hai isnt. Ba'hai is the worlds fastest growing religion inproportion to its membership (1.6 % i think).

It is rooted in islam, but islam is also rooted in christianity, and christianity in judeasm.

Its an independant abrahamic conception.

The reason why i said ba'hai to you is because ba'hai have the tenant of abrahamic unification.

They see the denominations of islam, christianity, judeasm as differing social constructions/manifestations of God, and every era has its degree of validity; its the transcadental qualities that matter.

Star Wars Fan
03-26-2009, 04:27 AM
It is a different religion, and with 6 million followers i wonder why judeasm is mentioned as an abrahamic conception and Ba'hai isnt. Ba'hai is the worlds fastest growing religion inproportion to its membership (1.6 % i think).

It is rooted in islam, but islam is also rooted in christianity, and christianity in judeasm.

Its an independant abrahamic conception.

The reason why i said ba'hai to you is because ba'hai have the tenant of abrahamic unification.

They see the denominations of islam, christianity, judeasm as differing social constructions/manifestations of God, and every era has its degree of validity; its the transcadental qualities that matter.

Don't they also accept the Buddhists and other groups as other manifestations of "god"?

Ambient
03-26-2009, 02:35 PM
Don't they also accept the Buddhists and other groups as other manifestations of "god"?

You mean do they?

I know theres a concept/model they use categorising the various abrahamic/thiestic faiths in order of validity/authority/theosophical truth.

But i really doubt Ba'Hai recognised buddhism as having much authority, especially seeing as they are impersonalists. Abrahamic faiths arguably have one of the most personal conception of god in existance, so an impersonalistic ( i wouldnt say non theistic, because im open to impersonilst /jainist conceptions of reality). They differ theologically so much, i doubt Ba'hai holds buddhism in high regard. Only one denomination believes in an afterlife, which is the cornerstone of abrahamic faiths.

I dont know why you ask about buddhism. It doesnt make sense in anyway that Buddhism would be held in high regard over other religous faiths. They have a theosopical tenant that says that all religions have some ontological validity, but like i said they are "ranked" in a way.

People need to stop fucking glorifying buddhism,
I fucking hate these atheists who are all like "yeah man God sucks, but you know buddhism is prety radical, cus like, theirs no creator god, which is cool, cus you know god sucks and stuff and its not even true, im just gonna stare at the ground and shit in the forest"

Nah. The next time some atheist who hates christianity but loves buddhism starts ranting they gonna get a jab.

Candiru
04-02-2009, 06:47 PM
I said Judaism because it isn't an evangelical religion and it's more of an ethnicity than a religion. A lot of Jews are skeptical of people who convert to it, so Judaism grows by Jews marrying other Jews and making baby Jews. Since hardly any Jews give a shit about Judaism at all, it's kind of fading away since no one cares about keeping it going. Also, Judaism is a really unnecessary religion. Like, who gives a shit?

Rich White Male
04-03-2009, 05:40 AM
Should I be surprised that every one thinks the jews will "die out" first?

That's who I voted for.

But really it's not all that likely. I mean Hitler already tried and failed, maybe they just can't be defeated that easily. I mean when Rome pissed them off that invented Christianity for revenge which succeeded in destroying Rome.

So maybe they weren't the best choice, but it's not an easy answer.

Hyper-dimension
04-03-2009, 05:59 AM
I voted Christianity, given the extreme secular tendencies of several Christian nations, the U.S. especially. The Jews are represented by a single nation, and I think it's played a big part in the religion's continued survival. And while I'm not really certain how accepted secular lifestyles are in Israel, I figure such tendencies might result in social 'exile'. There are Jewish communities in Europe one could give a try, I suppose.

Tokerface
04-03-2009, 06:04 AM
Jews, since they are the most hated people on the planet.

postdiluvium
04-03-2009, 10:40 PM
Judaism does not advocate outsiders to convert and is inherited solely through the mother of a child. The same can be said of other non Abrahamic religions (about the converting part), but this specific religion is dying just as fast as all religions through progressive generations of people having access to more information and higher education. The rate at which religions lose potency over populations may be greater than Jewish birthrates. Also take into consideration the birthrate is half of a normal birthrate as it only occurs on the mothers side and not necessarily on the father's.

skyclaw441
04-03-2009, 10:51 PM
Christianity. The hardcore Christians (the ones decent, moderate Christians like me cant' stand) are decreasing on an exponential decay curve, but there always a few. Other than that, it will probably just die along with everyone else in 2012.

postdiluvium
04-08-2009, 03:17 PM
Christianity. The hardcore Christians (the ones decent, moderate Christians like me cant' stand) are decreasing on an exponential decay curve, but there always a few. Other than that, it will probably just die along with everyone else in 2012.

Even though Christianity is in the decline in the West, it is actually on a sharp rise in the East, specifically China and Taiwan.