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mr.blunt
10-24-2011, 07:35 PM
in what i thought was a generous, appropriate, and overall amiable decision, i donated my single name change to everybodys favourite poster, GeriatricGrandpa4, a week or so ago in the name change thread.

however, in true party pooper fashion atrainv somehow decided this was invalid. i do not believe it should be. and this is why:

the reason we are now only allowed one name change is because people were changing their shit to retarded and obnoxious names a la "X 'fuck Y' Z" with no hesitation because they could just change it back. not only is GeriatricGrandpa4s request neither obnoxious or retarded, but it is evident that he as well as those who have forfeited their own name changes are completely serious about the change.

"oh but mr.blunt," you say. "if this is allowed then every doucher whos already changed his name is going to try the same thing"

my rebuttal is "so the fuck what?"

a high majority of the people on this website are self-absorbed, jealous, and egocentric assholes who would never donate their name change in favour of some troll dickhead who wants some bullshit name. i doubt you would be able to find a whole hell of a lot of people willing to donate their name change at all, actually. and if you impose some sort of exchange rate like five donated name changes (from valid posters to avoid somebody just making a handful of fake accounts) to the same person give that person one name change, i see even less tomfoolery going down.

it wouldnt be a hard thing to do. have the five people post in the thread, or PM since clutter seems to be a problem, something along the lines of "i would like to donate my name change to GeriatricGrandpa4 so that he can change his to GreatestGatsby4" and once the name change occurs, simply include the donors names with an asterisk along with the change in the threads OP to avoid multiple donations and other fraudulent behavior on either side. and if it wasnt clear, the donation would count fully as your own name change. so i would be unable to change my name after donating without finding five donated names myself.

if he wants to change it again, even changed back, then he would need twice as many donations. this would, im pretty sure, deter anyone whos just fucking around. only those held in high enough regard by enough posters or those truly hellbent on the name change will succeed. and if thats the case they deserve it. a female poster PMs titties to five posters to get five donations? give it to her. gg4 has scores upon scores of loyal and loving followers? give him that shit.

i truly think it could work and see no downsides in allowing this process, though i suppose thats the whole point in starting a discussion about it.

Midnight Sun
10-24-2011, 08:01 PM
I support GG4

I also want my name changed back to Midnight Sun, but apparently I can't do that either even though it's a regression cause apparently I already regressed.

fuckbiscuit
10-24-2011, 08:11 PM
I also support this, he's contributed alot to this site. Time to give back a small favour.

zuperxtreme
10-24-2011, 08:37 PM
Uh, yeah, let the dude change his name.

Tachosomoza
10-24-2011, 08:43 PM
It was a bit harsh to limit name changes in the first place.

Daily
10-24-2011, 08:44 PM
It was a bit harsh to limit name changes in the first place.

This. The first page of that thread has a list of every person's name change anyway.

GreatestGatsby4
10-24-2011, 08:50 PM
:cool:

&Zenith
10-24-2011, 09:00 PM
+1.

elf omg
10-24-2011, 10:14 PM
needs more name changes

Tachosomoza
10-24-2011, 10:18 PM
What should I change my name to?

fuckbiscuit
10-24-2011, 10:36 PM
What should I change my name to?

aunt jemima

GreatestGatsby4
10-24-2011, 10:41 PM
^that

CountBlah
10-24-2011, 10:45 PM
:lapastada:

elf omg
10-24-2011, 11:18 PM
And I'll donate mine to muffins so he doesn't go without.

&Zenith
10-24-2011, 11:59 PM
What should I change my name to?

Negrodamus.

Charles Manson
10-25-2011, 12:04 AM
I support GG4

I also want my name changed back to Midnight Sun, but apparently I can't do that either even though it's a regression cause apparently I already regressed.

Fuck you you peice of shit.

You are a scammer, you should have to stick with your SCAMMER name.


And yeah this should be allowed, in certain situations, if both users have at least a couple hundred thanks each, i really dont see ANY problem here.


We always gotta play nazi?

coolguy420
10-25-2011, 12:07 AM
agreed this is a great idea why cant we just change our own names whenever we feel like it then we dont have to wait for some faggot admin to take their sweet time and dick people around about it we could just do it ourselves without having to bother anyone about it

Michael Scott
10-25-2011, 12:24 AM
X 'fuck Y' Z

lol.

AtrainV
10-25-2011, 02:42 AM
If we were going to change the name-change policy it would be to get rid of it, not to allow for "donations." It's annoying enough as it is right now to have to keep track of everybody's name changes and check to make sure they haven't changed it before and whether or not it's one of their old names, etc. (not difficult, just annoying). Having to count up 5 donations as well would just make me less likely to keep up.

Ultimately, you guys don't actually care about changing the policy. What you REALLY want is to have GG4's name changed. However, why should we change this policy just because one person wants their name changed and has decided to be super vocal about it?

The reason we implemented the rule to begin with was because people were changing their names all the time (people like GG4) on a whim and it was becoming harder to moderate these users as nobody was sure who was who and which users were making genuine mistakes when they messed up and which users were just perpetually causing drama.

While I don't personally have anything against GG4, if I decide to say "Oh, hey, you're not such a bad guy, why don't I just bend this one time and give you an extra name change", I'll never hear the end of it from the other people who want to rules-lawyer me into giving them one. It's not just an exception, it's a precedent. I get enough angry PMs about retarded shit as it is and I don't want to have to sift through a pile of people bitching about how they don't like their name (when it VERY CLEARLY states in the thread what the rule is and how it works).

So, in summary:

-A name change donation system would be more annoying than the current system, so it's not going to happen.
-We're not going to get rid of the system altogether because it still serves a purpose.
-GG4 is stuck with his name as it is now as he should have read the rules before if he thought he was going to want to change it once again.

GreatestGatsby4
10-25-2011, 03:00 AM
in what i thought was a generous, appropriate, and overall amiable decision, i donated my single name change to everybodys favourite poster, GeriatricGrandpa4, a week or so ago in the name change thread.



I support GG4

I also want my name changed back to Midnight Sun, but apparently I can't do that either even though it's a regression cause apparently I already regressed.

I also support this, he's contributed alot to this site. Time to give back a small favour.

Uh, yeah, let the dude change his name.

It was a bit harsh to limit name changes in the first place.

This. The first page of that thread has a list of every person's name change anyway.

+1.

needs more name changes

I would be more than happy to donate my one name change for gg4 or hab.


And yeah this should be allowed, in certain situations, if both users have at least a couple hundred thanks each, i really dont see ANY problem here.


We always gotta play nazi?

agreed this is a great idea why cant we just change our own names whenever we feel like it then we dont have to wait for some faggot admin to take their sweet time and dick people around about it we could just do it ourselves without having to bother anyone about it

If we were going to change the name-change policy it would be to get rid of it, not to allow for "donations." It's annoying enough as it is right now to have to keep track of everybody's name changes and check to make sure they haven't changed it before and whether or not it's one of their old names, etc. (not difficult, just annoying). Having to count up 5 donations as well would just make me less likely to keep up.

Ultimately, you guys don't actually care about changing the policy. What you REALLY want is to have GG4's name changed. However, why should we change this policy just because one person wants their name changed and has decided to be super vocal about it?

The reason we implemented the rule to begin with was because people were changing their names all the time (people like GG4) on a whim and it was becoming harder to moderate these users as nobody was sure who was who and which users were making genuine mistakes when they messed up and which users were just perpetually causing drama.

While I don't personally have anything against GG4, if I decide to say "Oh, hey, you're not such a bad guy, why don't I just bend this one time and give you an extra name change", I'll never hear the end of it from the other people who want to rules-lawyer me into giving them one. It's not just an exception, it's a precedent. I get enough angry PMs about retarded shit as it is and I don't want to have to sift through a pile of people bitching about how they don't like their name (when it VERY CLEARLY states in the thread what the rule is and how it works).


-_-

So, in summary:

-A name change donation system would be more annoying than the current system, so it's not going to happen.
-We're not going to get rid of the system altogether because it still serves a purpose.
-GG4 is stuck with his name as it is now as he should have read the rules before if he thought he was going to want to change it once again.
-just let only people that people like change their names ALOT
-the purpose is so people don't get confused, everyone of my usernames so far has been GG4 so everyone will know who the fuck I be naw mean? Especially after this thread.
- I did read the rules and I thought they were bullISH

AdMech
10-25-2011, 03:09 AM
While I like GG4 and would support a name change for him personally, I can also see Atrain's point: name change limitations do serve a purpose, and exceptions generally weaken a rule.

However, I don't see the harm in allowing exceptions for long-time high-volume posters, since those two things act as a screen to prevent the flood of "but you made an exception for X" requests. Maybe not enough of one, though... maybe we can change the limit to two name changes per poster?

GreatestGatsby4
10-25-2011, 03:13 AM
Or you get a name change every X posts/thanks/watevah

AtrainV
10-25-2011, 03:22 AM
-_-

This isn't a vote. We're not accepting petitions. The only reason I posted in this thread was to clarify the reason why we're not changing the rule, not because it's in consideration.


-just let only people that people like change their names ALOT
-the purpose is so people don't get confused, everyone of my usernames so far has been GG4 so everyone will know who the fuck I be naw mean? Especially after this thread.
- I did read the rules and I thought they were bullISH

It's ridiculous for us to play favorites in this situation. Just because you have a lot of friends does not mean that you're going to be exempt from the rule. While the purpose is to keep things more organized and simple, if I break down and change it for this one time, what's to stop people like SHH from saying "oh well, everybody knows that my handles are always variations of SHH, so I should get free name changes too!"? If you read the rules, you knew ahead of time that you wouldn't be able to change it again. Why are you complaining now instead of then? It seems to me that this is less of an issue of "we don't like this policy" and more of an issue of "something didn't go my way and now I'm upset!".

GreatestGatsby4
10-25-2011, 03:26 AM
This isn't a vote. We're not accepting petitions. The only reason I posted in this thread was to clarify the reason why we're not changing the rule, not because it's in consideration.




It's ridiculous for us to play favorites in this situation. Just because you have a lot of friends does not mean that you're going to be exempt from the rule. While the purpose is to keep things more organized and simple, if I break down and change it for this one time, what's to stop people like SHH from saying "oh well, everybody knows that my handles are always variations of SHH, so I should get free name changes too!"? If you read the rules, you knew ahead of time that you wouldn't be able to change it again. Why are you complaining now instead of then? It seems to me that this is less of an issue of "we don't like this policy" and more of an issue of "something didn't go my way and now I'm upset!".

yeah pretty much that, if a lot of people want to change one super easy thing to change, why not do it other than because you like to flop your nuts around?

AtrainV
10-25-2011, 03:31 AM
You're missing the point. It's not about the fact that it's one small thing or that it's easy to change. It's about how doing it just for you causes more grief for me and cheapens the whole system in the long run. You just want to get one thing for you whereas I want to keep the system running effectively.

GreatestGatsby4
10-25-2011, 03:37 AM
LOL at cheapens the whole "system"

CountBlah
10-25-2011, 03:39 AM
:lapastada:

Midnight Sun
10-25-2011, 03:43 AM
Fuck you you peice of shit.

You are a scammer, you should have to stick with your SCAMMER name.


And yeah this should be allowed, in certain situations, if both users have at least a couple hundred thanks each, i really dont see ANY problem here.


We always gotta play nazi?

hahahahaha you can't even respond to me in your crybaby little benzo thread

what's the matter sweetie?

elf omg
10-25-2011, 04:58 AM
What's the current thanks to name change exchange rate?

zuperxtreme
10-25-2011, 01:34 PM
Soo.... /rejected?

elf omg
10-25-2011, 03:54 PM
No, zuper. This is a serious matter.

Blunderstar
10-25-2011, 04:12 PM
Haha I love how everything is a hassle on Zoklet.

GreatestGatsby4
10-25-2011, 05:29 PM
Naw son this shit aint rejected
It's just been left to fester and get infected
I will continue to pester but be protected
By you posters, when all erected

WELL ASS RAPE ON DEM MOD BITCHES
TILL THEY ASS GAPE AND NEED STITCHES
then escape with name switches
And eat cake, delicious

LavaRed
10-25-2011, 05:53 PM
I'll donate ALL of my name changes to elf omg. Because I'm really not going to change my name.

mr.blunt
10-25-2011, 07:23 PM
Ultimately, you guys don't actually care about changing the policy. What you REALLY want is to have GG4's name changed. However, why should we change this policy just because one person wants their name changed and has decided to be super vocal about it?

well thats just untrue. the policy is fucking retarded considering its clearly not a violation of the rules to just make a new account and stop posting with your old one. how is that any easier to remember whos who than if theyd just changed their name?


So, in summary:

-A name change donation system would be more annoying than the current system, so it's not going to happen.

yeah it would, much like this whole ordeal is more annoying than simply taking five seconds to change a posters name.

"its too much work" and "we wont be able to keep track of people" are really not convincing arguments in my eyes. if its too much work to check a few posts and write a couple more names down in the OP, how is moderating at all not a gigantic burden on you?

and why bother keeping track of people? if they do something which violates the rules that much, punish them accordingly no matter who the fuck it is.

The Methematician
10-25-2011, 07:39 PM
I'll gladly donate my one name change to anyone who'd change their name to "AttrainV is a phaggott".

Shrike
10-25-2011, 10:43 PM
People shouldn't be allowed to change their names. Register a new account if you want a new name.

GreatestGatsby4
10-26-2011, 01:04 AM
But then I lose all my points and I've trite it won't let me

Piles of Crack
10-26-2011, 12:34 PM
I love how people think Zoklet is a democracy or something.

Darkhunter
10-26-2011, 12:41 PM
I'll donate my name change if GG4 changes it to "GobbleGobble4"

GreatestGatsby4
10-26-2011, 01:14 PM
I'll donate my name change if GG4 changes it to "GobbleGobble4"

You like turkeys or what nigga?

Darkhunter
10-26-2011, 01:16 PM
You like turkeys or what nigga?

Yes. Yes I do GobbleGobble4

GreatestGatsby4
10-26-2011, 01:17 PM
What do u gobblegobble4?

Darkhunter
10-26-2011, 05:27 PM
What do u gobblegobble4?

Nothing GobbleGobble4

GreatestGatsby4
10-26-2011, 05:54 PM
Nothing GobbleGobble4
for free?

Darkhunter
10-26-2011, 06:00 PM
for free?

You fucking know it.

zuperxtreme
10-26-2011, 06:10 PM
Well, /thread. Admin has spoken.