Racism

[Genesis93]

Theory:
Racism as most of you have noticed has become pretty taboo, the majority of people dont agree with it and will usally exlude such a person from a group, therefore racism moves to places like the internet e.g here, in my life time of 15 years i can probably count on my fingers the amount of racism ive had thrown at me (maybe becaouse im 6 5 but meh) btw im black.

what do you guys think?

i would like to keep this civil

[Struwwelpeter]

The majority of the people on the internet are opposed to racism as well; it's expected that a majority of people will be too ignorant and retarded to understand something complex like racism.

[Genesis93]

racism is the discrimation against a group of people based on there skin colour, heritage etc, am i wrong? if not then its not that complicated

[El Monstruo]

I do not hate other races but I put my own first which is natural.
Humans are put in groups(races) and you should be loyal and help your group(race). We just are not the same.

The problem is people are heavily influenced by liberal propaganda from places like the media and school system.

A good example is gay marriage, they have pushed a pro-gay agenda on the public and now it's seen as normal.

[Genesis93]

i dont agree with gay marriage. and to be honest i dont think there any differences bettwen races exepct these:
skin colour
the effects of cico cell
eye shape
skull shape

but these don't really effect intelligence in my opinon, and sure black people are better at running but this isnt in the genes.

[1983]

i dont agree with gay marriage. and to be honest i dont think there any differences bettwen races exepct these:
skin colour
the effects of cico cell
eye shape
skull shape

but these don't really effect intelligence in my opinon, and sure black people are better at running but this isnt in the genes.

It's cause they got your TV. :D

Naw I believe in two different classes to every race and it puts me in the class of being a bigot which is fine.

I find there's allot of racism that's tolerated and other things that can hardly be construed as racist that are smear campaigned to "make and example".

I personally believe that the word racist and racism should be stricken from the record and the books and put it down as just plain old hate.

For instance... I hate my Jewish x fiance... Not because she's Jewish but because she's a manipulative con artist bitch that I someday hopefully get to have a font seat to see her die slowly.

That doesn't mean I hate all Jews even though I crack allot of Jew jokes.
I just haven't found a Jewish person that i liked yet or that's given me a reason to.

There's so much thought put into who hates who and who was a "slave" to who that in the end who really gives a fuck... Someone wrongs me no matter what skin color, nationality, of beliefs I'll use everything at my disposal to either get that person back or make an example of them.

Simple as that.

Al

[Struwwelpeter]

Racism is a branch of anthropology, a study of the racial divisions of man which have a basis in biological reality; a taxonomic construct. What you are thinking about is prejudice.

Racial differences are defined first and foremost by the haplogroup and one's genotype. It's possible to determine what race a person is from a sample of their semen, blood, and other forms of bodily excrement. Take a wild guess at how skull shape influences intelligence; different skulls house different brains.

Blacks excel in athletics like the one you mentioned and it is in the genes. Africa is a continent that allows for great physical development; it is a land full of wild game, watermelon and warm weather. You do not need to try hard to survive in Africa. As man migrated out of Africa and to more harsher climates such as the tundras and the forests of Europe and Asia, which demanded greater intellect to survive, the different races of man evolved to exist and thus had different physiological capacities and capabilities. This can be observed of course by the superiority of Asians and whites in the world, IQ statistics, literacy rates, success by race and country, the fact that all contributions to man came from whites and Asians, the gradual evolution of the early toolkits of man, etc.

I do not hate other races; I only wish that they could exist on their own individual lands, separated from one another.

[Genesis93]

men have been around for (wild guess no facts) a 100 000 years? evolution takes so much longer than this for even the tinyest change.
so a white man trains his child to be smart, replace that child with an african same thing?

[Struwwelpeter]

About 200,000 years, which is more than enough time to bring about the changes within the races of man. If it were not possible; white people would not exist today. Is your argument that my skin could no be white and that my eyes could not be blue? Or that my skull could be different?

If you train a black child in a white manner it's IQ will increase; although insignificantly.

[Genesis93]

the blue eyes: but isnt that variation and not evolution?
my belife is that:
the most useful gene carries on and the lesser one dies off e.g a a slow tiger dies of starvation, and with him his genes die off, a fast tiger eats and passes on his genes?

so IQ is enviromental?

[nooner]

I've enjoyed watching you flounder around on Zok for a while, and I think it's about time someone points out that you're just trying to sound smart, without really knowing what you're talking about.

Racism is a branch of anthropology, a study of the racial divisions of man which have a basis in biological reality; a taxonomic construct. What you are thinking about is prejudice.
When you start judging one "race" to be more or less suited for certain characteristics or positions, that's prejudice. It may be a taxonomic construct too, yes, but the lack of respect or consideration for the effect the human mind has upon the person makes it prejudice.

Racial differences are defined first and foremost by the haplogroup and one's genotype. It's possible to determine what race a person is from a sample of their semen, blood, and other forms of bodily excrement. Take a wild guess at how skull shape influences intelligence; different skulls house different brains.
Wildly innacurate for the last bit, there. Brain size and shape has little or no bearing upon the intelligence of said brain within reasonable range. Brain size variation between "races" has no real bearing on intelligence levels, the size and shape differences are too negligible.

Blacks excel in athletics like the one you mentioned and it is in the genes. Africa is a continent that allows for great physical development; it is a land full of wild game, watermelon and warm weather. You do not need to try hard to survive in Africa. As man migrated out of Africa and to more harsher climates such as the tundras and the forests of Europe and Asia, which demanded greater intellect to survive, the different races of man evolved to exist and thus had different physiological capacities and capabilities. This can be observed of course by the superiority of Asians and whites in the world, IQ statistics, literacy rates, success by race and country, the fact that all contributions to man came from whites and Asians, the gradual evolution of the early toolkits of man, etc.
Correlation != causation. I'd like you to show me some evidence that being a member of a caucasoid race determines the things you suggest here.

Caucasoids and those of african descent are all of varying size and shape. The picts and anglo-saxons were relatively small, however, the celts who came after and wiped the picts out, as well as the norsemen of the netherlands and the visigoths were all particularly large and athletic specimens. Similarly, depending upon where in africa you look for genetic heritage, you find both small and large, athletic and intelligence based cultures. Even among the mongoloid races, you have a large variation of size and athletic/intelligence balances, with the northern mongols being quite large and strong, with the southern chinese and eastern japanese being notably stronger.

People from every culture have emerged as leaders in the fields of both intelligence and athletics.

The things you talk about are much more sociologically and culturally based, rather than genetically determined. I challenge you to show me evidence to the contrary.

I do not hate other races; I only wish that they could exist on their own individual lands, separated from one another.

And that makes you not only prejudiced, but also stupid.

[Star Wars Fan]

so IQ is enviromental?

partially yes (e.g. malnutrition leads to undeveloped brains meaning lower iq during development).

also genes can also affect IQ to some extent.

also there's no threads (Well discussions) on 'alternative' races/nations (e.g. the Otherkin, Furries, Neurodiverse, etc)

normalfags...

[nooner]

About 200,000 years, which is more than enough time to bring about the changes within the races of man. If it were not possible; white people would not exist today. Is your argument that my skin could no be white and that my eyes could not be blue? Or that my skull could be different?

If you train a black child in a white manner it's IQ will increase; although insignificantly.

IQ is a horrible determinate of actual intelligence, based upon flawed human tests. There's a reason real anthropologists and psychologists place almost no weight upon IQ testing methods; because they have almost no bearing upon the worldly or mental "success" of the subjects at hand.

[Struwwelpeter]

It's a form of variation which occurs to a greater volume within the white race; some white people (I.E. those who live further from the equator) lost pigmentation both in the form of melanin and in their eyes as it is a darker place than Africa; which is also why whites are not lactose intolerant as a whole, as many part of Europe are so dark that they cannot absorb Vitamin D from the sun, thus they evolved to tolerate lactose.

IQ is environmental in a historical context; gradually moving to Europe caused a change in man's intellectual and cognitive abilities however as far as a practical standpoint IQ is closer to static than dynamic; it can be influenced albeit insignificantly. Studies have shown that as black are exposed to white culture and white upbringing their IQ increases, however it only increases from 83 (average) to the lower 90s. The "staircase" of IQ remains the same with Negroids and Australoids at the bottom, central Asian and American mongoloids above that, Caucasoids next and Mongoloids (east Asian) at the top.

[Struwwelpeter]

When you start judging one "race" to be more or less suited for certain characteristics or positions, that's prejudice. It may be a taxonomic construct too, yes, but the lack of respect or consideration for the effect the human mind has upon the person makes it prejudice.

It is not prejudice to point out reality.


Wildly innacurate for the last bit, there. Brain size and shape has little or no bearing upon the intelligence of said brain within reasonable range. Brain size variation between "races" has no real bearing on intelligence levels, the size and shape differences are too negligible.



Not true.

Correlation != causation. I'd like you to show me some evidence that being a member of a caucasoid race determines the things you suggest here.

I listed them right there; what more evidence do you need?

Caucasoids and those of african descent are all of varying size and shape.

This is true.

The picts and anglo-saxons were relatively small, however, the celts who came after and wiped the picts out, as well as the norsemen of the netherlands and the visigoths were all particularly large and athletic specimens.

These are ethnic groups; not races, and you have no evidence to support what you have said.

Similarly, depending upon where in africa you look for genetic heritage, you find both small and large, athletic and intelligence based cultures.

You will not find intelligence based cultures in Africa.



Even among the mongoloid races, you have a large variation of size and athletic/intelligence balances, with the northern mongols being quite large and strong, with the southern chinese and eastern japanese being notably stronger.

Once again you have no evidence to support this.


People from every culture have emerged as leaders in the fields of both intelligence and athletics.


Individuals have yes, but as a whole blacks dominate the 100m sprint, there may be white participants at the Olympic level however they will never be gold medalists. There have been black professors; but they are a minority.


The things you talk about are much more sociologically and culturally based, rather than genetically determined. I challenge you to show me evidence to the contrary.


Race Evolution and Behavior; Rushtion et al
Race as a Taxonomic Construct; Rushton et al

[Genesis93]

nooner and jim how old are you?

[Struwwelpeter]

I just turned 21, nooner will be celebrating his twelfth birthday at "Chuck-E-Cheese's" on April 4th, 2009. Good to meet you sir.

[Genesis93]

jim i dont think brain size that is a cm bigger than anothers affects intelligence

[Struwwelpeter]

It's not necessarily a "size" difference (circumference alone) as much as it is a matter of volume, or simply cranial capacity.

[Genesis93]

ok, so how do you know that white man has more volume?

[Genesis93]

and dont they say less than a quarter of the brain is used?

[Struwwelpeter]

http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/1997%20Rushton%20Cranial%20Size%20and%20IQ%20in%20 Asian%20Americans.pdf

you'll need to remove the faggot-ass twenty percents but the data is there. The correlation between IQ, performance in the real world, etc is consistent with cranial capacity within race, with blacks having the least cranial capacity, whites in the middle and Asians having the most. The IQ tests show the same respective correlations between the races, and of course the statistical data of blacks being more criminal than whites, whites more criminal than Asians, etc.

[Struwwelpeter]

and dont they say less than a quarter of the brain is used?

It's true that at any given time you are using perhaps a quarter of your brain, but we use all of our brains for the tasks that require them. And intelligence isn't just cognitive, there are forms of coordination and athletic ability and strength, skill, balance, rhythm etc which are all forms of intelligence dictated by the brain and the nervous system. Blacks are more physically intelligent than whites and Asians by far. Doesn't mean anyone is inferior or superior to anyone else, it's all relative. The races of man just need to be separate because it seems that they cannot live together peacefully.

[Genesis93]

but with that argument you are one of the people who cause the non piece because allot of thet ime your higlighting the differnces between races

[Struwwelpeter]

That's a valid point for sure.

[driveby]

The thing is, people use the argument of intelligence, and crime statistics when they discuss racism. These statisticsd are not do to the charecteristics of the race, they are due to a government conspiracy to make it impossible for anyone in that race to graduate, or survive without committing crimes. Since less educated, they come of as less intelligent. In reality, hispanics, ect are more intelligent then whites, and have spines, unlike whites.

[Struwwelpeter]

LOL

[Struwwelpeter]

Math problems are racist. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics)

[graphite]

The thing is, people use the argument of intelligence, and crime statistics when they discuss racism. These statisticsd are not do to the charecteristics of the race, they are due to a government conspiracy to make it impossible for anyone in that race to graduate, or survive without committing crimes. Since less educated, they come of as less intelligent. In reality, hispanics, ect are more intelligent then whites, and have spines, unlike whites.

Do you really believe that?

I'm not even going to touch that last sentence.

There are plenty of black graduates that are also not criminals.

I believe the problem isn't government conspiracy's to keep black people down, but that much of America's black society has been stuck in a loop since slavery. The slaves were set free, were uneducated, poor, and discriminated against. They didn't have the option of upward mobility. They had children; their children had few options to advance in white society. Eventually civil rights are gained and everything is supposedly on an even playing field. Well the problem is you still have generation after generation of poor uneducated people raising poor uneducated children. They are heavily concentrated in the same neighborhoods (inner city) and in a way become closed off to the outside world. Gangs/drug dealing/crime are higher in these areas as there aren't many options to make money. Rap/Hip hop culture has not helped this at all. A lot (not all) of modern rap music will glorify this type of behavior to the point where music videos are more like advertisements or recruiting tools.

Bitterness towards white people leads to an attitude of "fuck the white man and his ways" meaning striving to excel in academics and pursue higher education. Instead of investing a significant amount of time, money and effort into going to college, dropping out to sell drugs becomes the norm. This generation grows up, raises kids and the whole cycle repeats itself.

Blacks have been at a disadvantage since slavery. They did not receive the same head start into this culture that many others did. That is not to say that there aren't anomalies to this "norm". If fact, I would go so far as to say that most black people don't grow up to be drug slanging gang bangers. But if you go into any hood or predominantly black area with high crime rates, it is likely this cycle of the blind leading the blind that is the cause of the cultures socio-economic stagnation.

Looking at it this way puts the stereotypical inner city people in a bad light. It makes them seem...ignorant. I'm sure you can think of another word that people will argue means "ignorant person". People of every race, color and creed see someone riding around in their hoop d, living off welfare, not paying child support, lowering the value of homes in the area, with no aspirations to better themselves at all and realize that in twenty years their kid will be doing the same shit.

Instead of putting this much thought into the issue, most people will just say "those goddam niggers" which doesn't help anything. This reaffirms the belief of the aforementioned stereotypical inner city poor black that the white man doesn't like him or doesn't want him to succeed. The reality is it's a dog eat dog world out there.

[Star Wars Fan]

Math problems are racist. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics)

...your point being? We're already aware that textbooks are skewed to what white people did and ignoring the muslim's contributions, etc..

[Struwwelpeter]

I thought we already covered this a few threads ago when you tried to claim that Italians and Spaniards an other Mediterraneans weren't white; the Muslims of those times were not mixed like some of the Muslims today, that is, they were entirely white. And since when were Muslims a race? It's hilarious that someone is on here promoting "anti-racist mathematics". I've got some anti-racist mathematics for you.

Novice
1 + 1 = ?

Intermediate
2 + 2 = ?

Advanced
5 + 5 = ?

[DJ Meaty Cheeks]

Wow I feel like I just took a swim in a pool filled with stupid.

[AtrainV]

This has very little to do with psychology. I'm going to move it to the Inhumane Condition. As usual, if the mods there want to move it somewhere else, feel free.

[Star Wars Fan]

I thought we already covered this a few threads ago when you tried to claim that Italians and Spaniards an other Mediterraneans weren't white; the Muslims of those times were not mixed like some of the Muslims today, that is, they were entirely white. And since when were Muslims a race? It's hilarious that someone is on here promoting "anti-racist mathematics". I've got some anti-racist mathematics for you.

Arabs aren't a race either, and there are white arabs, even today. Also that link you posted didn't explain the Chukchi (or other) people in Siberia or the Eskimos, for example.
Also I didn't said Muslims were a 'race'. I was providing an example of Euro-centric bullshit

[Zay]

I thought we already covered this a few threads ago when you tried to claim that Italians and Spaniards an other Mediterraneans weren't white; the Muslims of those times were not mixed like some of the Muslims today, that is, they were entirely white. And since when were Muslims a race? It's hilarious that someone is on here promoting "anti-racist mathematics". I've got some anti-racist mathematics for you.

Novice
1 + 1 = ?

Intermediate
2 + 2 = ?

Advanced
5 + 5 = ?


Asians' languages have shorter names for numbers, and the numbers are simplified so that you don't have anomalies like "eleven, twelve", etc. They have the equivalent of "one-teen, two-teen, three-teen, etc.". This teaches asian kids to count sooner, and the earlier head start gets exponential as you increase the number of years in the education system.

It's explained better here:
http://www.gladwell.com/outliers/outliers_excerpt3.html
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Racial talks are discouraged because they are considered oversimplifications and racialism itself is insufficient justification for different treatment of races by government. You are for setting up racial zones and not everybody agrees with that.

[Struwwelpeter]

If we were to exclude the English usages of the words we would also be eliminating a very basic and fundamental form of grammar; with the English system you kill two birds with one stone, teach the kids some words and structure as well as the numbers. Being able to count quickly won't matter much in a word in which calculators are no longer considered to be a form of "cheating".

[Zay]

Isn't it too soon to call for bringing segregation back, then? We have AD(H)D meds and other cognitive enhancement drugs, we have the Flynn effect showing that IQ is rising for everyone within western nations, with whites still holding a 1.0 ratio over blacks, but IQ scores rising for everyone regardless, improvements within the school systems, and better controls for gaps in environment(lead levels, iodine salt levels, parenting)? All this after only 40 years of common lynching?

[Struwwelpeter]

It would simply cost too much to medicate an entire race of people in addition to the number of people who already have those mental diseases. And in regards to that I've never met anyone even on those stimulants who was really "improving", they were always a bunch of crazy asses but that's just my personal experience, it doesn't really mean anything. I've always felt that putting more drugs towards them in an attempt to "treat" them is a futile effort, as they will get addicted to and develop a tolerance for amphetamines and those related drugs you mentioned, and eventually cost the healthcare system more than what it took to medicate them in the first place. In my opinion they should just be left for more manual lifestyles or athletics or whatever it is they can do.

But it's different when you have a race of them because it's no longer an anomaly; you're having to medicate an entire race of humans just so that they can exist peacefully in society. The lead and iodine arguments don't hold a lot of merit as the white people as well as every other race in America from the 1800s onward were exposed to them and you don't see them doing what blacks do. The simple fact of the matter is these reasons may alter a person's IQ and it may be improvable, these situations do not necessitate the practice of gang banging, raping, murdering, or anything more than hub-cap stealing. We can make an obvious correlation between their genetics and their criminality. The IQs will rise for all races as the Flynn effect demonstrates however the gaps will always be the same, with only different numbers.

It would all cost too much, for too great of a risk, and for too much time.

All of this anti-racist stuff isn't about equality, justice, peace, or any of this nonsense. Anywhere you go, be it anti-racism, anti-racist action, anti-racist mathematics, anti-racist pancakes, anti-racist kool-aid, whatever it may be it's not about anti-racism it's about destroying white culture. It's evident in that article. Look at what America created with the English system of mathematics. While China was testing nuclear weapons on dogs were were crip-walking on the fucking moon. They still can't even put a man in space without him uncontrollably shitting on himself in this decade. All of the innovations in technology we enjoy today came from Europeans, most of them indo-European native tongues. All of this points to the superiority of our more well-rounded form of mathematics. The connection between grammar, structure and numbers cannot be underestimated. When the children get to advanced forms of math like Algebra, coding, and other disciplines which involve grammatical structure you will see why the English system is so important. All of this Chinese shit is for bean counters. Certainly, an Asian may be able to memorize numericals and repeat them quicker and more accurately than a man from the occident. They may know how to count to 40 in the first trimester for all I care. What good has it done them? Is that of any real value? The truth is the white man has created a system that is flawless, rational, and quite simply the cornerstone of all innovative technology today. We do not need to change it, we do not need to adopt other methods simply because a few butthurt non-whites use them. It works flawlessly. People need to just get over it and face facts, and stop trying to destroy the thinking that built this planet up from nothing.

[Struwwelpeter]

One another thing I must add, lead paint has been and is used in China, and that nation is probably the most polluted on the planet, and it hasn't kept those people from attaining some of the highest IQs on the planet. There most likely is very little if any correlation between that kind of exposure and intelligence.

And they really cannot even call it anti-racist math since it has nothing to do with race; just white culture, any single race can adopt to the European standards of math. Anyone. They're just throwing the made-up "race" taboo in order to get attention for their anti-white agenda.

[a giant pterodactyl]

Theory:
Racism as most of you have noticed has become pretty taboo, the majority of people dont agree with it and will usally exlude such a person from a group, therefore racism moves to places like the internet e.g here, in my life time of 15 years i can probably count on my fingers the amount of racism ive had thrown at me (maybe becaouse im 6 5 but meh) btw im black.

what do you guys think?

i would like to keep this civil

with my boots on i am 6' 8" 326 lbs. nobody says shit to me IRL. ever. it kinda sucks at times.

lol, thats all? fuckin midget, i hollered nigger at a little dude about your size today, and then turend around and went into the store he walked into. he tucked his head down like a good little nigger and went on his way. lulz

you are more like 5'10"...average nigger size. or actually a 15 yr old white/jew, afrowed kid. superlulz @ ITG



EDIT: I JUST READ ALL OF WHAT OP POSTED, I THINK I TOOK IT OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT LEAVING POST FOR NIGGER LULZ AND CIVILNESS.
i brand you 'TROLL'

[Zay]

It would simply cost too much to medicate an entire race of people in addition to the number of people who already have those mental diseases.

I've always felt that putting more drugs towards them in an attempt to "treat" them is a futile effort, as they will get addicted to and develop a tolerance for amphetamines and those related drugs you mentioned, and eventually cost the healthcare system more than what it took to medicate them in the first place....

....But it's different when you have a race of them because it's no longer an anomaly; you're having to medicate an entire race of humans just so that they can exist peacefully in society


I'm not advocating medicating an entire race of people. Entire races of people don't need medication for mental illnesses. The amount of people with ADHD is from 1-5%, or 10 million people. Jailing a person costs 10s of thousands of dollars per year. ADHD meds cost at most a few bucks per pill, or only from hundreds to thousands of dollars per year. US healthcare isn't even fully socialized yet, so it's wrong to assume this would come from taxpayer money alone. All I was doing was showing different variables that affect IQ and socioeconomic status .
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In my opinion they should just be left for more manual lifestyles or athletics or whatever it is they can do.

Yes, but nationalists assume all minorities do is commit crime.


. The lead and iodine arguments don't hold a lot of merit as the white people as well as every other race in America from the 1800s onward were exposed to them and you don't see them doing what blacks do.

Iodine deficiency lowers IQ, It's not that exposure does it. Supplementing it to people that lack it has been shown to raise IQ.

I'm taking a holistic approach here, and I'm applying it to society in general, not racial eugenics: Inform people that they need to repair homes with lead paint, make sure that they get proper nutrition in their diets, inform them that they need to get care for kids that show symptoms of mental conditions, not to abuse drugs(especially alcohol) and counter-market or discourage stupid "ethnic pride" campaigns. All this improves society as a whole, especially minorities. Minorities suffer from nationalist/ethnic pride(black pride, viva mexico! Viva Guatemala, viva honduras!) that prevent them from integrating into society properly. Tending to so many responsibilities keeps people off criminality. To say that minorities are not capable of this needs to provide proof that minorities aren't teachable.

The simple fact of the matter is these reasons may alter a person's IQ and it may be improvable, these situations do not necessitate the practice of gang banging, raping, murdering, or anything more than hub-cap stealing. We can make an obvious correlation between their genetics and their criminality. The IQs will rise for all races as the Flynn effect demonstrates however the gaps will always be the same, with only different numbers.

Correlation isn't causation. This is encouraged by fallacies like saying that Iceland, west Virginia, and Scandinavia simply have lower criminality because they are white.


It would all cost too much, for too great of a risk, and for too much time.

Too much time for what? Different families are at different stages of development. 3 children may do crime, while 1 may become a doctor, in any given family. It's all too many variables to make giant non-sequitors like "it's all based on race."


All of this anti-racist stuff isn't about equality, justice, peace, or any of this nonsense. Anywhere you go, be it anti-racism, anti-racist action, anti-racist mathematics, anti-racist pancakes, anti-racist kool-aid, whatever it may be it's not about anti-racism it's about destroying white culture.

"White culture" is too vague. White culture doesn't exist solely by virtue of race. Race and culture are completely separate things. You can be a black doctor in virginia, a black thug in brooklyn, a black lawyer in Philadelphia, a black prostitute in haiti, a black aerospace engineer (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050803124.html), or the black ex-CEO of Merryl Lynch. Culture is just a meaningless, bullshit, self-serving, arbitrary, collectivist definition of people. People are individuals, capable of adopting any lifestyle simply by circumstance.


It's evident in that article. Look at what America created with the English system of mathematics.


While China was testing nuclear weapons on dogs were were crip-walking on the fucking moon. They still can't even put a man in space without him uncontrollably shitting on himself in this decade.



with= correlation.

Correlation=/=Causation. Whites could have been speaking chinese and still walking on the moon.

NASA and the USSR space program have had their fair share of failures.


All of the innovations in technology we enjoy today came from Europeans, most of them indo-European native tongues. All of this points to the superiority of our more well-rounded form of mathematics. The connection between grammar, structure and numbers cannot be underestimated....

....When the children get to advanced forms of math like Algebra, coding, and other disciplines which involve grammatical structure you will see why the English system is so important. All of this Chinese shit is for bean counters. Certainly, an Asian may be able to memorize numericals and repeat them quicker and more accurately than a man from the occident. They may know how to count to 40 in the first trimester for all I care. What good has it done them? Is that of any real value?


It can't be underestimated, or even completely measured. That's why conclusions like "it's all based on race", and then implementing government eugenics programs and social experimentation, giving them undeserved scholarships, rounding up all the blacks and shipping them to africa, partitioning the united states into separate racial countries, etc. are ridiculous.


The truth is the white man has created a system that is flawless, rational, and quite simply the cornerstone of all innovative technology today. We do not need to change it, we do not need to adopt other methods simply because a few butthurt non-whites use them. It works flawlessly.[quote]

More incomplete conclusions. Some whites, jews, asians, are in certain circumstances that give them opportunities to be successful and non-violent. Other whites and jews and asians, and blacks and spics and native americans need to get their acts together, and their race is not a self-destructive mechanism that will prevent them from moving non-violent, functional lives.


[quote]
People need to just get over it and face facts, and stop trying to destroy the thinking that built this planet up from nothing.

I feel your pain.

[Zay]

What plagues white nationalists, or any ethnic pride group: Too much positivism, not enough praxeology.

That's why complex explanations like those given by Jared Diamond today give a much wider perspective than what narrow-minded eugenicists gave in the 20th century.

[Struwwelpeter]

This is mostly one-liners because I don't have much to say.

I'm not advocating medicating an entire race of people. Entire races of people don't need medication for mental illnesses. The amount of people with ADHD is from 1-5%, or 10 million people. Jailing a person costs 10s of thousands of dollars per year. ADHD meds cost at most a few bucks per pill, or only from hundreds to thousands of dollars per year. US healthcare isn't even fully socialized yet, so it's wrong to assume this would come from taxpayer money alone. All I was doing was showing different variables that affect IQ and socioeconomic status .


I see.



Iodine deficiency lowers IQ, It's not that exposure does it. Supplementing it to people that lack it has been shown to raise IQ.


Yes you're right about that; you'll have to forgive me I was thinking solely about lead exposure and put "iodine exposure" in there without even realizing it.

I'm taking a holistic approach here, and I'm applying it to society in general, not racial eugenics: Inform people that they need to repair homes with lead paint, make sure that they get proper nutrition in their diets, inform them that they need to get care for kids that show symptoms of mental conditions, not to abuse drugs(especially alcohol) and counter-market or discourage stupid "ethnic pride" campaigns. All this improves society as a whole, especially minorities. Minorities suffer from nationalist/ethnic pride(black pride, viva mexico! Viva Guatemala, viva honduras!) that prevent them from integrating into society properly. Tending to so many responsibilities keeps people off criminality. To say that minorities are not capable of this needs to provide proof that minorities aren't teachable.



That I agree with.

Correlation isn't causation. This is encouraged by fallacies like saying that Iceland, west Virginia, and Scandinavia simply have lower criminality because they are white.


It's true that correlation alone does not equal causation but when you factor in all of the other realities, along with the fact that the correlation is observable anywhere on Earth, it does become a matter of that, the correlation is just one form of evidence.

Too much time for what? Different families are at different stages of development. 3 children may do crime, while 1 may become a doctor, in any given family. It's all too many variables to make giant non-sequitors like "it's all based on race."


There will always be exceptions.

"White culture" is too vague. White culture doesn't exist solely by virtue of race. Race and culture are completely separate things. You can be a black doctor in virginia, a black thug in brooklyn, a black lawyer in Philadelphia, a black prostitute in haiti, a black aerospace engineer (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050803124.html), or the black ex-CEO of Merryl Lynch.

It is extremely unlikely.


Culture is just a meaningless, bullshit, self-serving, arbitrary, collectivist definition of people. People are individuals, capable of adopting any lifestyle simply by circumstance.


I agree somewhat, however culture should not be regarded as meaningless. You simply cannot look back in history and say that culture is arbitrary, collectivism is necessary for most people.

Correlation=/=Causation. Whites could have been speaking chinese and still walking on the moon.


The causation can be observed via correlation; if a different method works for one nation it is superior to the other, it is the only one that has attained results.

NASA and the USSR space program have had their fair share of failures.

They have, although the USSR many more than that of NASA.

It can't be underestimated, or even completely measured. That's why conclusions like "it's all based on race", and then implementing government eugenics programs and social experimentation, giving them undeserved scholarships, rounding up all the blacks and shipping them to africa, partitioning the united states into separate racial countries, etc. are ridiculous.


It may be ridiculous in the sense that it will never occur, it will always be a matter of white flight and never deportation, but the concept of putting everyone back on their respective continents (including Euros) or to universally agreeable parts of the world is pretty much what would save humanity.

[Genesis93]

with my boots on i am 6' 8" 326 lbs. nobody says shit to me IRL. ever. it kinda sucks at times.

lol, thats all? fuckin midget, i hollered nigger at a little dude about your size today, and then turend around and went into the store he walked into. he tucked his head down like a good little nigger and went on his way. lulz

you are more like 5'10"...average nigger size. or actually a 15 yr old white/jew, afrowed kid. superlulz @ ITG



EDIT: I JUST READ ALL OF WHAT OP POSTED, I THINK I TOOK IT OUT OF CONTEXT, BUT LEAVING POST FOR NIGGER LULZ AND CIVILNESS.
i brand you 'TROLL'
if u tried that shit with me we wud share words

:confused: im no troll

[Star Wars Fan]

if u tried that shit with me we wud share words

:confused: im no troll

el reformador is a troll actually. Look up his other posts.

[a giant pterodactyl]

el reformador is a troll actually. Look up his other posts.

you are a nigger and a troll, top that bitch. look at ANYTHING that you have EVER posted on totse or zoklet.

better to be a troll than a chocolate nigger.

[a giant pterodactyl]

if u tried that shit with me we wud share words

:confused: im no troll

you would do shit boi. just like my other bitches, lower your head and walk on by, so you wouldn't end up in intensive care.

ITG4LYF

[Star Wars Fan]

you are a nigger and a troll, top that bitch. look at ANYTHING that you have EVER posted on totse or zoklet.

better to be a troll than a chocolate nigger.

so based off your logic, I'm better than you as Im a better troll than you and a 'nigger'. I win :D ;)

What's the best/worst (depending on POV) trolling you did? (note im using 'trolling' in a loose term)

[a giant pterodactyl]

so based off your logic, I'm better than you as Im a better troll than you and a 'nigger'. I win :D ;)

What's the best/worst (depending on POV) trolling you did? (note im using 'trolling' in a loose term)

penis? i'm not sure. troll backwards is "llort" is this pertinent>??!?!?

[Valkoinen Kuolema]

I don't mind other races, provided they keep the fuck out of my country and stop taking jobs from my people.