Amphetamine Troubles

[Something_clevar]

Now let me just start out by saying that I would never take I drug that I haven't already heavily researched; but now that I've tried it, it feels like I still have a lot more to learn.

Anyway, I took about 35 mg (Adderall) one night and ended up feeling quite tingly and invincible, but I really just ended up chilling and reading archives on Totse and Fullyramblomatic.com. That first time didn't really raise any questions, as it played out more-or-less how I thought it should have.

Two nights ago, however, I had my second experience and started out with a dose of 55 mg, snorting 15 mg a few hours later (hey, go big or go home, m i rite? :cool:). After all of my research, I had come to the conclusion that 60 mg would be an okay 'fairly-high no-tolerance' dose for me, but the whole time it was always right in the back of my head that I could always do a little more. I know that this is how it is with pretty much all dopaminergic drugs, but I still can't help but feel just a tad underwhelmed.

My question is this: Would it be a good idea to take 75 mg next time? I always seem to be able to take just slightly more than what people recommend and come out feeling excellent (for example, everyone seems to recommend 30 mg of hydrocodone, but I prefer 40 with no tolerance), though I'm not sure just how relevant that is. Also, one thing I had forgotten until last night is that amps are said to have a ridiculously high nasal bioavailability compared to oral, so perhaps some experienced user could help me work that into my equation?

[Ness]

The bioavailability is higher when you snort it. As for the dosage just keep upping it in small increments until you find a comfortable yet enjoyable high.

[Hydroponichronic]

If you continue to use the amps, you could benefit from LDOPA and/or JP's phenylalanine cocktail. A) They boost the fuck out of stims B) They eliminate the crash (IE, you can get zipped for 12 hrs on 20mg of amp, if you don't believe me, try it)

Both are available cheap as nuts on ebay, (I don't recommend buying from ground locations, as they tend to overpriced) see the DLPA thread for more details.

[vilbe]

i used to mix up how i did it, and found 60-90mgs to be the sweet spot. but that varies for everyone. less is always more. but seriously, try eating one and blowing one..

[Young Meth]

Yea, the sweet spot for me is 60-80.

Honestly, eating them is just fine. I get nice and tweaked either way. plus, if you have to snort more than 1 pill (there's alot of ground up powder in one pill, SHIT!) , adderall's drip gets fucking disgusting.

[Something_clevar]

I’ve only ever used very small 5 mg pills. I could probably snort about 25 mg worth before I threw up or lost the will to live (/dry humor). But one thing I’m not so sure about is this bioavailability issue. I mean, there's just no way that the 15 mg I snorted that night was as powerful as 45 mg orally.

Disregarding all that, do you think it would be ideal for me to take 50 mg to start out, then snort 25 mg about an hour later?

[blink]

Just take it all at once. I've snorted at least 120mg in a night and was tweaking for a good 2 days.

[Something_clevar]

Alright, I used to be content with just letting this die, but now this question has really started to bug me....

5mg intranasal isn't really equivalent to 15 mg oral, is it?

[Aces N 8s]

I only take addy when i need to be up all night for studying or writing a paper. I usually do around 40mg through the course of the night but thats just to be up and focused.

Really though, for recreation adderall is not that great. I like it for playing poker to stay awake, focused, and so that i can drink my ass off without being impaired. Other than that, do some blow or some proper tweak if you're trying to party.

Adderall is for school. Meth/coke is for the club

[Metaflux]

IMHO, put the amphetamines down. Only methamphetamine is worth that horrible addiction. Amphetamines are a joke compared to the beast.

I loled

Never tried meth but seen so many peoples lives ruined by it. I used to live off of I-5 (US interstate) in Oregon. Man that shit was bad there. You had to get a prescription just to get a bottle of cough medicine.


But in relevance to the thread topic, I have to agree with the previous poster. Adderall isn't that great of a recreational drug. After so much it will just produce a really tweaky, anxious effect. Also I wouldn't rely on someone Else's opinion on what you can handle. Everyone is different in regards to natural tolerance, weight, experience, etc... Start with a dose you know you are comfortable with and just work your way up slowly. Personally I wouldn't push it to 75mg, not saying your going to drop dead, but it might not produce the feeling that you would expect.

[Something_clevar]

But in relevance to the thread topic, I have to agree with the previous poster. Adderall isn't that great of a recreational drug.

Shit, really?

Ehh, I guess I have enough fun with it. 55mg was pretty great to me, but I primarilly talked to my fround for about 5 hours about shit nobody cares about. I don't really like parties to begin with, so I think I'll just use these casually for a little while longer.

[DexterMeth]

Um, methamp has conclusively been proven to be even physically damaging to the brain. A whole lot of spots of VERY good euphoria for a whole lot of paranoia, bugs, bats, shadows, etc. I am currently on adderall (street) and strattera (Rx'd), and I must say things are running so smooth with essentially no negative mental side effects (like meth paranoia, the physical jitters bad, overall look dead). You DO NOT look like this from eating adderall, I doubt from properly filtered (out the crushed wax balls outsides, as well as most all binders and fillers), techniques of use, like completely crushing to powder, fully disolving (unless you need "whatever" to stick to the filter...I'm thinking coffee filters in this case, but I'd double run it with an oral syringe through 2 cottons and then a seperate brand new .01 micron spin wheel filter. This should leave you with an almost entirely pure product, minus "a little this and this in binders and fillers I believe?"....thing is though if you know your chemistry, you can make all methamp out of adderalls. I don't know if the Strattera is good for my long term wellness, but seemingly overnight it felt like someone turned on my fucking "LIFE SWITCH"! Oh...you're there? Life? So how has shit been? "Oh you know dog, galaxies colliding, a better understanding of anti-matter, making true real life time travel work, but for a split second in the biggest machine in the world, that sweet big ole' "Swiss" Partical Colider. Some scientists did these tests on it where conclusively each time, there'd be a sender "Point A (I think they actually sent data but somehow physically instead of virtually down the collider)" and "Point B (The receiver of any/all info or even signals from Point A in line. The point was to send "whatever" (again, in this case I THINK it was some kind of physical data, doesn't matter for the sake of my rant..just got done playing "Streets of Rage 2"...OMG I want SOR1 for the artillery strikes :(/

Oh yea, so anyways (lol) they were sending data shots of something to/on something over at point B. After a lot of speculation, postulation, thought and thought then put to work, point B was recieving the info a number of milliseconds than point B ever even sent out the data. This is a very early and basic step, but this along with Einstine's work and a few others that I can't think of right now, time travel is definately physically possible...like 1000 years from now or more when we stop eating at taco bell. ..And....? If you made a human sized real machine, how would you get back? Same thing with worm holes, which I now need to read up a lot on again because as far as I know, we simply don't and won't for a very long time, (like really fucking long) be able to collect, harness and safely hold a wormhole open big enough for a ship to go through. There's other theories around that of course, some which seem like they might work "if only we had this!". BaH! Snort some more addies (I snorted the XRs ONCE in highschool, 2nd year first semester....those beads..I had no idea was Bluelight was until a few months later when I started using "The Hip Forums" lol...all kids there. I'm oldschool...i even was a cannabis.org ? forum member.

The point is is that time travel is possible now on the very small scale for very short almost instantaneous moments, and that my post in no way proves or gives evidence to throw out your "toxic" (the jury is still out on that one, so stop lying to people looking for real info and help..your single stupid comment could of destroyed 5 stupid people's lives..who knows? 10? 1000? How about posting honestly, or it just might be a matter of slightly different ways of wording things because you're either a European who learned english, (which I doubt), or all that "great non-toxic" true meth tweaker twick twackitty tin foil hat police while stabbing shadows that don't exist....yea you can have that. I'll take the pharms...the one's I want and "tweak" any of them that I want, that would suite me.

K, this is the longest I've been up since I used to do meth (good clean stuff, since i was near the source) all the time back in mid-lateHS/early college. It destroyed me. The euphoria factor is pretty good with no tolerance especially if you shoot it, but it can turn dark and nasty so quick and easy.

I seriously hope you were being sarcastic about methamp being what everyone should be taking for stim meds

[Zip]

I don't know if the Strattera is good for my long term wellness, but seemingly overnight it felt like someone turned on my fucking "LIFE SWITCH"!

You noticed an immediate effect from Strattera? I thought it had a titration period of 1 week minimum.

[typedthiswithmytits]

bang it

i promise you'll be satisfied: ]

[LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry]

Take moar.

I remember swallowing 3 30 mg Adderall XR's when I was 14. Good times.

[Miluardo]

i used to mix up how i did it, and found 60-90mgs to be the sweet spot. but that varies for everyone. less is always more. but seriously, try eating one and blowing one..

Truth I used to take about 20mg of adderall XR orally and blow another 10-20mg. Keep in mind I kept my tolerance low and used a couple potentiation recipies. It works great for a 6 hours work / sk00l day.

The only thing I can say is that you should keep your heart in check and blow till you're comfortable. There's not a whole lot else you can do.

If you're looking for more of a rush.. snort more faster.

if you're looking to sustain a feeling.. Get a nice oral dose going that will last the whole XR time. Then blow every hour / couple hours to keep 'er rollin'

If you're looking for something else.. I can't think of what that would be haha.

Just remember tolerance will build faster than you can realize. Especially in AMP time.

[Miluardo]

You noticed an immediate effect from Strattera? I thought it had a titration period of 1 week minimum.

I snorted a couple of those and they sucked dick. Sold em all to a kid who got spun after eating like a handful though. I never trusted it.

[LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry]

I snorted a couple of those and they sucked dick. Sold em all to a kid who got spun after eating like a handful though. I never trusted it.

Neither would I for recreational use, considering it's not even a stimulant.

[Miluardo]

Neither would I for recreational use, considering it's not even a stimulant.

it's too bad it's poorly researched but I wonder if it WOULD be given proper titration.

It does inhibit the ol' nor-epinephrine reuptake. Which may make you speedy. I dunno about euphoric. Definitely speedy though.

[Twin Gats]

I used to do so much amphetamines even now after being clean 3 months 120mg of adderall up the nose would slightly wake me up for an hour

go easy that shitll fuck ur brain...especially if u make it a habit and ur young