Iowa legalizes gay marriage

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/us/04iowa.html?bl&ex=1238904000&en=e70ffe2956e3a3c3&ei=5087%0A

god dammit. this is the homo.

[abrown5124]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/us/04iowa.html?bl&ex=1238904000&en=e70ffe2956e3a3c3&ei=5087%0A

god dammit. this is the homo.

What's wrong with it. If they want to live like that then let them. It's not up to you to judge people! :mad:

[elf omg]

Awesome!

[Marquis In Spades]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuckin homo's

[abrown5124]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuckin homo's


Why are you such a dick?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdH1ZEbnIms

watch that:)

[BiggLJ]

That's disgusting. These courts should stop trying to control everything, the people have already spoken and they don't want these freaks getting married.

[Marquis In Spades]

That's disgusting. These courts should stop trying to control everything, the people have already spoken and they don't want these freaks getting married.

exactly its not cool

[Please insert username]

Why are you such a dick?

yeah every single post ive saw from this guy is either flaming someone or has nothing to do with the thread

[Marquis In Spades]

yeah every single post ive saw from this guy is either flaming someone or has nothing to do with the thread

no not all of my posts are like that to be honest:thumbsup:

[Marquis In Spades]

Why are you such a dick?

because your secretly driveby.

[Duelist]

why do you guys even care?
they aren't trying to marry you...

this is separation of church and state, you should be proud.

for once our government works as planned

[abrown5124]

yeah every single post ive saw from this guy is either flaming someone or has nothing to do with the thread

Thank you! I know I've been arguing with him for a while now about it. :thumbsup:

[abrown5124]

because your secretly driveby.

I'm secretly driveby?

[Marquis In Spades]

Thank you! I know I've been arguing with him for a while now about it. :thumbsup:

awww the child made a revilation lets give him a cookie everyone. nah:thumbsdown:

[Marquis In Spades]

I'm secretly driveby?

yes don't act like your not you diss me and when he logs off your logged in. strange yes?

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yes don't act like your not you diss me and when he logs off your logged in. strange yes?

not at all:)

[abrown5124]

yes don't act like your not you diss me and when he logs off your logged in. strange yes?

Lol too bad I'm at school right now. And I only have one user name. So yeah.... Get lost. Your posts have nothing to do with the threads.

[abrown5124]

not at all:)

Thank you kind sir/ma'am.

[Please insert username]

Thank you kind sir/ma'am.

Sir:)

[abrown5124]

The way I see it is... They arent trying to marry us so why should we care or not. It is their choice to get married or not.

[Marquis In Spades]

Lol too bad I'm at school right now. And I only have one user name. So yeah.... Get lost. Your posts have nothing to do with the threads.

why do you let people get to you over the internet? so much rage

[abrown5124]

why do you let people get to you over the internet? so much rage

I don't... Why do you have to start thes stupid arguments in EVERY thread you post in?

[Marquis In Spades]

i dislike the gays but only if they like you know you go chill in there own state and stop flooding the t.v and magizines and whatnot with shit trying to convert straight people to become gay or they other shit they pulll but if they cool then they cool i guess in iowa at least

[Marquis In Spades]

I don't... Why do you have to start thes stupid arguments in EVERY thread you post in?

its not an argument your making it one by getting all pissed off im calm and collected just chilling out voicing my views on gay people in iowa.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Iowa? Seriously?

God damn, you'd think some of the west or east coast states would do it first..

Anyway, it's all a matter of the constitution. Nothing in the constitution of the United States would make Gay Marriage illegal, so courts overturn the bans that people vote in (By majority, mind you), because their decision to ban it is unconstitutional.

[abrown5124]

i dislike the gays but only if they like you know you go chill in there own state and stop flooding the t.v and magizines and whatnot with shit trying to convert straight people to become gay or they other shit they pulll but if they cool then they cool i guess in iowa at least

It is a right for people. They aren't trying to convert us.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

i dislike the gays but only if they like you know you go chill in there own state and stop flooding the t.v and magizines and whatnot with shit trying to convert straight people to become gay or they other shit they pulll but if they cool then they cool i guess in iowa at least

Gay people do not try to "convert" straight people.

That would imply that every homosexual is part of some network secretly working to forward an agenda that we all somehow got together and agreed upon in secret.

[Marquis In Spades]

It is a right for people. They aren't trying to convert us.
its called advert brainwashing.

[abrown5124]

Iowa? Seriously?

God damn, you'd think some of the west or east coast states would do it first..

Anyway, it's all a matter of the constitution. Nothing in the constitution of the United States would make Gay Marriage illegal, so courts overturn the bans that people vote in (By majority, mind you), because their decision to ban it is unconstitutional.

That a good point. The constitution doesn't say anything about it being wrong or illegal. So they should be able to have that right. Everyone should.

[abrown5124]

its called advert brainwashing.

Yes OMG... Im gonna become gay just because I see the gay people on t.v. all the time. Not!

[JustAnotherAsshole]

That's disgusting. These courts should stop trying to control everything, the people have already spoken and they don't want these freaks getting married.

The people's decision was unconstitutional.

If 51% of Americans voted to make Obama the Emperor of the United States (Mind you, I know this is a very far out hypothetical, I'm just giving an example), it wouldn't matter, because that would be going against the constitution.

You'll see why it's a good thing once something you dislike gets overturned.

[Marquis In Spades]

Yes OMG... Im gonna become gay just because I see the gay people on t.v. all the time. Not!

how old are you like 15? please stop listening to what the highschool shoves down your throat and go travel abroad and learn about the world.

[BiggLJ]

The way I see it is... They arent trying to marry us so why should we care or not. It is their choice to get married or not.

That's the problem, you're a fucking bitch. People like you are the reason the government does whatever the fuck they want. You'll stand aside as long as something doesn't effect you personally. That's pathetic. You really want children growing up in a world where faggotry is seen as an acceptable lifestyle choice? I know I don't.

[abrown5124]

The people's decision was unconstitutional.

If 51% of Americans voted to make Obama the Emperor of the United States (Mind you, I know this is a very far out hypothetical, I'm just giving an example), it wouldn't matter, because that would be going against the constitution.

You'll see why it's a good thing once something you dislike gets overturned.

Good point again. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Marquis In Spades]

That's the problem, you're a fucking bitch. People like you are the reason the government does whatever the fuck they want. You'll stand aside as long as something doesn't effect you personally. That's pathetic. You really want children growing up in a world where faggotry is seen as an acceptable lifestyle choice? I know I don't.


:thumbsup:

[abrown5124]

That's the problem, you're a fucking bitch. People like you are the reason the government does whatever the fuck they want. You'll stand aside as long as something doesn't effect you personally. That's pathetic. You really want children growing up in a world where faggotry is seen as an acceptable lifestyle choice? I know I don't.


Too bad I don't support the government. They are all so crooked and they make us believe whatever they want.

[Dread_Lord]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdH1ZEbnIms

watch that:)

It would be more accurate if instead of a potato it was another apple that said it was an orange and the original apple and orange strayed away from it and didn't like it's behavior.

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It would be more accurate if the potato said it was an orange and the apple and orange strayed away from it and didn't like it's behavior.

but its still funny as shit

[Dread_Lord]

but its still funny as shit

I changed it to represent what I meant more. My comment, that is.

[abrown5124]

but its still funny as shit

hell yeah

[Marquis In Spades]

t.v. is gay

[Please insert username]

telivision

That's bad Enlgand.

[abrown5124]

telivision


Learn how to spell.

[Marquis In Spades]

learn how to think for yourself.

[abrown5124]

learn how to think for yourself.

I do :D

[KillSwitch_J]

why do you guys even care?
they aren't trying to marry you...

this is separation of church and state, you should be proud.

for once our government works as planned

Good point.:thumbsup:

[abrown5124]

Good point.:thumbsup:

Too bad our government is crooked as shit. You know they set up 9/11 right?

[Marquis In Spades]

duh

[abrown5124]

duh

Yeah so why support the Government if they kill thousands of their own people to make us believe shit. Gosh I hate humanity.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

learn how to think for yourself.

I'd tell you to shut the fuck up, but this is America. You're allowed to say what you like, and live as you please. Your words and your beliefs, thanks to our Constitution, will always fail to take those freedoms away from others, no matter who they may be.

Great thing, this Constitution, huh?

[BiggLJ]

The people's decision was unconstitutional.

If 51% of Americans voted to make Obama the Emperor of the United States (Mind you, I know this is a very far out hypothetical, I'm just giving an example), it wouldn't matter, because that would be going against the constitution.

You'll see why it's a good thing once something you dislike gets overturned.

Who the fuck are you to say what is or isn't unconstitutional? What's unconstitutional is when the government overturns the will of the people. We might as well go back to the stone age if we're going to let a small group of men and women tell millions of voters that they're wrong.

[Marquis In Spades]

I'd tell you to shut the fuck up, but this is America. You're allowed to say what you like, and live as you please. Your words and your beliefs, thanks to our Constitution, will always fail to take those freedoms away from others, no matter who they may be.

Great thing, this Constitution, huh?

i don't live in american i live in the wilderness in no mans land so no fuck that shit

[abrown5124]

I'd tell you to shut the fuck up, but this is America. You're allowed to say what you like, and live as you please. Your words and your beliefs, thanks to our Constitution, will always fail to take those freedoms away from others, no matter who they may be.

Great thing, this Constitution, huh?

I don't support the damn thing. It's just a piece of paper. The Government is retarded.

[Rocko]

Our government was never set up to be a pure majority rule. The Constitution applies regardless of how many people support or oppose something. If the country was pure majority rule we'd still be burning witches and executing nonbelievers.

[Marquis In Spades]

lol

[Marquis In Spades]

you damn kids can surf a piece of plie wood up my ass you fucking punk ass bitches

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you damn kids can surf a piece of plie wood up my ass you fucking punk ass bitches

give it a rest please:thumbsup:

[abrown5124]

give it a rest please:thumbsup:

Thank you... This guy is starting to get on my nerves!

[Please insert username]

Thank you... This guy is starting to get on my nerves!

i know hes an ass:thumbsup:

[Marquis In Spades]

so angry calm down children

[BiggLJ]

Only thing getting on my nerves is the faggots populating this thread. Go pick up a book and get some help, educated folk are speaking.

[Marquis In Spades]

i know hes ano ass:thumbsup:

calm down im that not bad not bad as slag or driveby im better i can prove it

[Marquis In Spades]

Only thing getting on my nerves is the faggots populating this thread. Go pick up a book and get some help, educated folk are speaking.

exactly my thoughts:thumbsup:

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Who the fuck are you to say what is or isn't unconstitutional? What's unconstitutional is when the government overturns the will of the people. We might as well go back to the stone age if we're going to let a small group of men and women tell millions of voters that they're wrong.

I didn't decide, the Supreme Courts decided. These are people who spend their lives studying the law and the constitution of the America, and they know it better than you or I. If they cannot find anything that would condemn something, it is not unconstitutional. If something violates part of the constitution, it is unconstitutional.

How can a piece of paper tell millions that they are wrong?

Germany, the 1930s. Millions of people showed unprecedented approval for laws restricting the rights of Jews and many others. Although this was a majority decision, it was wrong.

We have this system so that we cannot vote away the freedoms of ourselves or of other Americans. If a bill or law that is put forth doesn't infringe on freedoms or on the constitution, it should have little trouble being enacted.

i don't live in american i live in the wilderness in no mans land so no fuck that shit

If you're that Isolated from everybody else, you can do as you please. You can have your own little patch of land with your own little rules and everything, but you will not infringe on the freedoms of others.

I don't support the damn thing. It's just a piece of paper. The Government is retarded.

You don't need to support it. Nobody cares if you do or don't.

As long as you do not infringe on the rights of others, you're allowed to say and do as you please. Hell, protest some gay marriages. Picket outside city hall.

It's your right.

Only thing getting on my nerves is the faggots populating this thread. Go pick up a book and get some help, educated folk are speaking.

In this context, "Educated folk" applies to those who agree with you, and "Faggots" applies to those who don't.

[BiggLJ]

I didn't decide, the Supreme Courts decided. These are people who spend their lives studying the law and the constitution of the America, and they know it better than you or I. If they cannot find anything that would condemn something, it is not unconstitutional. If something violates part of the constitution, it is unconstitutional.

How can a piece of paper tell millions that they are wrong?

Germany, the 1930s. Millions of people showed unprecedented approval for laws restricting the rights of Jews and many others. Although this was a majority decision, it was wrong.

We have this system so that we cannot vote away the freedoms of ourselves or of other Americans.



If you're that Isolated from everybody else, you can do as you please. You can have your own little patch of land with your own little rules and everything, but you will not infringe on the freedoms of others.



You don't need to support it. Nobody cares if you do or don't.

As long as you do not infringe on the rights of others, you're allowed to say and do as you please. Hell, protest some gay marriages. Picket outside city hall.

It's your right.



In this context, "Educated folk" applies to those who agree with you, and "Faggots" applies to those who don't.

So a group of judges are placing their opinion above the opinion of millions of Americans. That's ridiculous. This is our country, we decide what the fuck goes on. No one has the right to play morality police and say what's right or wrong. What goes on in a country should be decided by those who live there, not uneducated fools pretending to know what is right or wrong.

Faggots are by their nature illogical and therefore don't have the brainpower to argue correctly. So yes, those who don't agree with me probably are faggots.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

So a group of judges are placing their opinion above the opinion of millions of Americans. That's ridiculous. This is our country, we decide what the fuck goes on. No one has the right to play morality police and say what's right or wrong. What goes on in a country should be decided by those who live there, not uneducated fools pretending to know what is right or wrong.

You do have the right to decide what goes on as long as you do not take rights away from others. Simple as that. If what you're doing does not take away somebodies rights (Whether it be freedom of speech, pursuit of happiness, etc, etc), you get to decide.

They're not saying what's right or wrong. They're saying what is and is not allowed by the constitution. And they're hardly uneducated. Becoming a supreme court judge isn't a walk in the park, you know.

Those who lived in 1930s Germany decided what they wanted to do, and what they did was sign away their freedoms and install Hitler as chancellor. This had disastrous consequences.

But yeah, the Constitution isn't important, it's just a piece of paper.

Faggots are by their nature illogical and therefore don't have the brainpower to argue correctly.

No peer-reviewed, respected scientific study would agree with you, but this is America. You're allowed to just say shit.

So yes, those who don't agree with me probably are faggots.

Lol.

[Dread_Lord]

Why is it so important for fags to be married?

[BiggLJ]

You do have the right to decide what goes on as long as you do not take rights away from others. Simple as that. If what you're doing does not take away somebodies rights (Whether it be freedom of speech, pursuit of happiness, etc, etc), you get to decide.

They're not saying what's right or wrong. They're saying what is and is not allowed by the constitution. And they're hardly uneducated. Becoming a supreme court judge isn't a walk in the park, you know.

Those who lived in 1930s Germany decided what they wanted to do, and what they did was sign away their freedoms and install Hitler as chancellor. This had disastrous consequences.

But yeah, the Constitution isn't important, it's just a piece of paper.



No peer-reviewed, respected scientific study would agree with you, but this is America. You're allowed to just say shit.



Lol.

Yes the people can take away rights. When somebody does something wrong, we throw their ass in jail or we have them killed. Logic shows that homosexuality is wrong, therefore faggots should be subjected to the same punishment.

You're just showing your own ignorance whenever you post. Germany had disastrous consequences because of Hitler? Germany was fucked before Hitler, Hitler just brought them back to their former glory for awhile.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Why is it so important for fags to be married?

Why is it so important for straights to be married? Homosexuals want the same rights as Heterosexuals.

People are either equal to each other, or better or worse than each other.

Yes the people can take away rights. When somebody does something wrong, we throw their ass in jail or we have them killed.

That's the law taking away your rights. I cannot wake up one day and decide to imprison somebody. It doesn't work that way. People are punished based on law, not on personal opinion or beliefs.

My Logic shows that homosexuality is wrong, therefore faggots should be subjected to the same punishment.

Fix'd.

You're just showing your own ignorance whenever you post. Germany had disastrous consequences because of Hitler? Germany was fucked before Hitler, Hitler just brought them back to their former glory for awhile.

I've shown regard for constitutional law whenever I post.

Yes, Hitler was a disaster for Germany and the world because his actions resulted in the murders of around 10-11 Million civilians, and the deaths of millions upon millions of soldiers.

[ants in my poptarts]

That's disgusting. These courts should stop trying to control everything, the people have already spoken and they don't want these freaks getting married.

popular opinion has nothing to do with justice

[BiggLJ]

Why is it so important for straights to be married? Homosexuals want the same rights as Heterosexuals.

People are either equal to each other, or better or worse than each other.

People aren't equal to each other. Faggots like you get the bottom spot on the totem pole.

That's the law taking away your rights. I cannot wake up one day and decide to imprison somebody. It doesn't work that way. People are punished based on law, not on personal opinion or beliefs.

Laws were created by the people for the people. When laws take away rights, that's people taking away rights. So yes, people can take away rights.

Fix'd.

Don't you dare twist my words you stupid fucking faggot.

I've shown regard for constitutional law whenever I post.

Yes, Hitler was a disaster for Germany and the world because his actions resulted in the murders of around 10-11 Million civilians, and the deaths of millions upon millions of soldiers.

But Germany was already a disaster before Hitler got there, so to say that the Germans giving Hitler power had disastrous consequences is fucking stupid. No, the Germans giving Hitler power brought them back to their former glory for a period of time, then brought them back to disaster after WWII. Hitler wasn't their downfall, they were already fucked before that.

popular opinion has nothing to do with justice

How the fuck else do you expect to determine "justice?" Popular opinion is the only fair way to determine right or wrong.

[Dread_Lord]

Why is it so important for straights to be married? Homosexuals want the same rights as Heterosexuals.


Marriage isn't a right or a right protected by the constitution.

[JustAnotherAsshole]

People aren't equal to each other. Faggots like you get the bottom spot on the totem pole.

Says you? Not under U.S. law. The last vestige of anti-gay law are the widespread bans on gay marriage, and they're on their way out. Soon we'll all be... Oh my god, equal.

Laws were created by the people for the people. When laws take away rights, that's people taking away rights. So yes, people can take away rights.

You're not understanding. I do not just decide (Nor does anybody else) "Hey, I disagree with this guy, so I'm going to have him imprisoned."

People don't put people in jail, laws and your own actions do. The people that make laws aren't going around deciding on each individual case what to do based on their opinion, and we can all be grateful you don't make laws, since you'd imprison those with different perspectives.

Don't you dare twist my words you stupid fucking faggot.

Alright, who's fucking "logic" is it then? Not mine. Nobody I know embraces that shit as their logic, so who?

Also, keep your macho-bullshit threatening tone to yourself, e-douche. This is the internet, no matter how strong and tough you project yourself to be, it's meaningless.


But Germany was already a disaster before Hitler got there, so to say that the Germans giving Hitler power had disastrous consequences is fucking stupid. No, the Germans giving Hitler power brought them back to their former glory for a period of time, then brought them back to disaster after WWII. Hitler wasn't their downfall, they were already fucked before that.


Yeah, he brought them up, and back down again. What do you mean he didn't cause their downfall? Hypothetical scenario. Say I'm poor, right. Then I make loads of money. Then I blow all that money and become poor again. Did I cause it, or was it just me being poor in the first place?

That pussy didn't even answer for his wrongdoings, he shot himself, quivering in a bunker.

Marriage isn't a right or a right protected by the constitution.

And it says nothing about Same-Sex Marriage, either.

[13579]

Hahaha, wow. BiggLJ really shows his ignorance in every post. He's either very young, or a troll, I can't quite decide which.

Seems he can't quite talk without accusing somebody of being a "Faggot".

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Hahaha, wow. BiggLJ really shows his ignorance in every post. He's either very young, or a troll, I can't quite decide which.

Seems he can't quite talk without accusing somebody of being a "Faggot".

I remember back on totse, it was him and this other guy that got into an argument with me and a few others in a thread of the same sort.

Basically they kept questioning everybody's sexuality until we got tired of the bullshit and left.

EDIT: Also, he's about to call you a faggot. Watch out.

[BiggLJ]

Says you? Not under U.S. law. The last vestige of anti-gay law are the widespread bans on gay marriage, and they're on their way out. Soon we'll all be... Oh my god, equal.

Yeah, they must be on their way out, it's not like one of the most liberal states just banned gay marriage...oh wait.

You're not understanding. I do not just decide (Nor does anybody else) "Hey, I disagree with this guy, so I'm going to have him imprisoned."

People don't put people in jail, laws and your own actions do. The people that make laws aren't going around deciding on each individual case what to do based on their opinion, and we can all be grateful you don't make laws, since you'd imprison those with different perspectives.

The people have made the laws. They don't need to go around deciding each individual case, the laws they have made apply for the individual situations. Just like people don't go around and tell every single group of freaks that they can't marry...we just put it in law, and it's done.

Alright, who's fucking "logic" is it then? Not mine. Nobody I know embraces that shit as their logic, so who?

It's simple logic that anyone can understand. A group of straights will survive for many generations through reproduction. Queers have a mental disorder that prevents them from reproducing, therefore they will not survive for more than one generation on their own. Straights can survive. Queers can't. Obviously, straights are superior.

Also, keep your macho-bullshit threatening tone to yourself, e-douche. This is the internet, no matter how strong and tough you project yourself to be, it's meaningless.

I'll say whatever the fuck I want. You're lower than dirt, I don't need to take orders from some freak. If you don't like what I say, leave like the coward you are.

Yeah, he brought them up, and back down again. What do you mean he didn't cause their downfall? Hypothetical scenario. Say I'm poor, right. Then I make loads of money. Then I blow all that money and become poor again. Did I cause it, or was it just me being poor in the first place?

That pussy didn't even answer for his wrongdoings, he shot himself, quivering in a bunker.

They were already downfallen. Your scenario doesn't work because there was more than one party in the original scenario.

Hahaha, wow. BiggLJ really shows his ignorance in every post. He's either very young, or a troll, I can't quite decide which.

Seems he can't quite talk without accusing somebody of being a "Faggot".

JustAnotherGapingAsshole is a known faggot, that's why I'm referring to him as such. Get your facts straight kid.

I remember back on totse, it was him and this other guy that got into an argument with me and a few others in a thread of the same sort.

Basically they used actual logic which my inferior mind couldn't understand, so I had to run away because that's what my kind does best.

EDIT: Also, he's about to call you a faggot. Watch out.

Fix'd.

I'm not gonna call him a faggot, he hasn't proven that yet. He may just be a moron.

[skyclaw441]

I am semi-proud of my state again. But I don't think it will stay, the bigot idiot Republicans will appeal it and win. All gays in Iowa: marry while you can. And when the Republicans have their way, I will spit on the steps of the Iowa statehouse.

[Yggdrasil]

Yeah, they must be on their way out, it's not like one of the most liberal states just banned gay marriage...oh wait.

That was due to conniving wording and strong mobilization on the part of religious groups.


It's simple logic that anyone can understand. A group of straights will survive for many generations through reproduction. Queers have a mental disorder that prevents them from reproducing, therefore they will not survive for more than one generation on their own. Straights can survive. Queers can't. Obviously, straights are superior.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Both homosexuality has its advantages and disadvantages. In certain parts of the world where environmental conditions were too harsh to sustain large populations, societies, such as those of the brave and glorious Greeks, developed socially accepted homosexual customs.


I'll say whatever the fuck I want. You're lower than dirt, I don't need to take orders from some freak. If you don't like what I say, leave like the coward you are.

A gigantic cop-out coming from an e-prick


JustAnotherGapingAsshole is a known faggot, that's why I'm referring to him as such. Get your facts straight kid.

:rolleyes:

[Yggdrasil]

I am semi-proud of my state again. But I don't think it will stay, the bigot idiot Republicans will appeal it and win. All gays in Iowa: marry while you can. And when the Republicans have their way, I will spit on the steps of the Iowa statehouse.

Fuck yes. Have any of these cases addressing gay civil unions/marriage made it to the US Supreme Court. I'd like to see one of those social conservatives appeal their bullshit once Obama fills up the posts with liberals :p

[Dread_Lord]

And it says nothing about Same-Sex Marriage, either.

Right, thus it's up to the states to decide under the constitution and if the states say faggots can shut the fuck up about it then faggots can shut the fuck up about it.

Other than the tax reasons they have no legitimate reason to be married but the tax problem is universal and affects all singles not just fags.

Faggots who want to be married are just trolls.

[Yggdrasil]

Right, thus it's up to the states to decide under the constitution and if the states say faggots can shut the fuck up about it then faggots can shut the fuck up about it.

Other than the tax reasons they have no legitimate reason to be married but the tax problem is universal and affects all singles not just fags.

Faggots who want to be married are just trolls.

What is the practical definition of marriage? Not in the sense of who it is that's marrying, but in the sense of what exactly marriage is. Do they mean, like, religious weddings?

[ants in my poptarts]

How the fuck else do you expect to determine "justice?" Popular opinion is the only fair way to determine right or wrong.

judges do it. it's how the american legal system works

[PirateJoe]

Who the fuck are you to say what is or isn't unconstitutional? What's unconstitutional is when the government overturns the will of the people. We might as well go back to the stone age if we're going to let a small group of men and women tell millions of voters that they're wrong.

Actually, that's not unconstitutional at all. Lern2judicial review.

[Dread_Lord]

What is the practical definition of marriage? Not in the sense of who it is that's marrying, but in the sense of what exactly marriage is. Do they mean, like, religious weddings?

Marriage is just symbolism until it's institutionalized by the government. Governments should not institutionalize marriage as it's none of their business.

[Yggdrasil]

Then seriously, why is the homosexual community in the country so ardent about gay marriage? To be on par with the bastards who have chastised and ostracized them for the past 2000 years? Fuck that. As long as a civil union guarantees gays the same rights as a heterosexual marriage, there should be no issue. If, however, a civil union can't do that, then allowing them to marry is imperative.

[ants in my poptarts]

It's simple logic that anyone can understand. A group of straights will survive for many generations through reproduction. Queers have a mental disorder that prevents them from reproducing, therefore they will not survive for more than one generation on their own. Straights can survive. Queers can't. Obviously, straights are superior.


so your sole basis for a person being valuable to society is their ability to reproduce? What about artificial insemination or Parthenogenesis? Are you saying any lifestyle that doesn't result in having a child is wrong? If thats the case the pope is on the same boat as those queers.

[Dread_Lord]

Then seriously, why is the homosexual community in the country so ardent about gay marriage? To be on par with the bastards who have chastised and ostracized them for the past 2000 years? Fuck that. As long as a civil union guarantees gays the same rights as a heterosexual marriage, there should be no issue. If, however, a civil union can't do that, then allowing them to marry is imperative.

Because they're trolls. They want to marry in other peoples churches or religions where they aren't welcome. They want to be accepted as normal when their sexual behavior, and often outward social behavior, shows that they are not.
They're trying to make it seem as if they are victims when the only thing they're victims of is their own mental/emotion/sexual disorders.

[ArmsMerchant]

Gays should be allowed to get married.

Shit, they're no better than the rest of us.

[Yggdrasil]

Because they're trolls. They want to marry in other peoples churches or religions where they aren't welcome. They want to be accepted as normal when their sexual behavior, and often outward social behavior, shows that they are not.
They're trying to make it seem as if they are victims when the only thing they're victims of is their own mental/emotion/sexual disorders.

Oh, fuck you

[Gantz Graf]

Oh, fuck you

Word. Mentally/emotionally/sexually, I'm in perfect order, or at least as much as any other person could attest to. It is just oriented in a different way from the norm. Nothing about it indicates any sort of malfunction.

[BiggLJ]

so your sole basis for a person being valuable to society is their ability to reproduce? What about artificial insemination or Parthenogenesis? Are you saying any lifestyle that doesn't result in having a child is wrong? If thats the case the pope is on the same boat as those queers.

Artificial insemination has only been made possible by the work of generations of straights. The sole basis for a person being valuable towards humanity is reproduction, because it's the only way to keep humanity alive. A person that can't reproduce because of a physical or mental disorder is naturally inferior to one that can, and therefore they may have to live an inferior lifestyle.

Oh, fuck you

Watch your mouth when talking to your superiors. Did you tell mommy and daddy that they raised a freak yet? They'll be so disappointed, the selfless thing to do would be suicide before they have to deal with that suffering.

[Yggdrasil]

Artificial insemination has only been made possible by the work of generations of straights. The sole basis for a person being valuable towards humanity is reproduction, because it's the only way to keep humanity alive. A person that can't reproduce because of a physical or mental disorder is naturally inferior to one that can, and therefore they may have to live an inferior lifestyle.

Watch your mouth when talking to your superiors. Did you tell mommy and daddy that they raised a freak yet? They'll be so disappointed, the selfless thing to do would be suicide before they have to deal with that suffering.

"Inferior" and "out of the norm"are two completely different terminologies; you best learn the difference.

Oh, and a giant pfft to your second paragraph. As I said before, fuck off. You want to discuss the nature of laws concerning homosexuals? Go ahead. However, lay off my personal life, as it is off topic, and thus, irrelevant to the discussion, akin to thread derailment, and grounds for infraction.

-kthxbi :fuck-8:

[Rocko]

Trollin, trollin, trollin...

[BiggLJ]

"Inferior" and "out of the norm"are two completely different terminologies; you best learn the difference.

Oh, and a giant pfft to your second paragraph. As I said before, fuck off. You want to discuss the nature of laws concerning homosexuals? Go ahead. However, lay off my personal life, as it is off topic, and thus, irrelevant to the discussion, akin to thread derailment, and grounds for infraction.

-kthxbi :fuck-8:

Yes, and queers belong to both the inferior and out of the norm categories, as I've already proven multiple times using actual facts, you ignoramus.

I'm not derailing the thread, I'm bringing up a valid point. Your judgment is clouded on this issue since you have to deal with it so closely, and anyone arguing with you may want to know why you're so irrational.

I'll also take that as a no, mommy and daddy haven't been notified of your faggotry. That's probably for the best, I bet they'll be devastated.

[ants in my poptarts]

Artificial insemination has only been made possible by the work of generations of straights. The sole basis for a person being valuable towards humanity is reproduction, because it's the only way to keep humanity alive. A person that can't reproduce because of a physical or mental disorder is naturally inferior to one that can, and therefore they may have to live an inferior lifestyle.

so a person who sits on welfare cranking out inbred half retarded children is more valuable to society then a gay doctor? fail :thumbsdown:

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Yeah, they must be on their way out, it's not like one of the most liberal states just banned gay marriage...oh wait.

And it will be overturned very soon, just like the first ban was.

Still, it says something that a country state, with little more than corn and farmers has realized that a ban is not constitutional.


The people have made the laws. They don't need to go around deciding each individual case, the laws they have made apply for the individual situations. Just like people don't go around and tell every single group of freaks that they can't marry...we just put it in law, and it's done.


The people can vote on it as much as they want, but it will continue to be overturned by the supreme court, as a ban on any type of marriage is unconstitutional.


It's simple logic that anyone can understand. A group of straights will survive for many generations through reproduction. Queers have a mental disorder that prevents them from reproducing, therefore they will not survive for more than one generation on their own. Straights can survive. Queers can't. Obviously, straights are superior.


In no way are Homosexuals incapable of sexual reproduction. A Lesbian and a Homosexual man are just as physically capable of bearing a child as a straight couple.

Your way of thinking is just so fucked up.

I'll say whatever the fuck I want. You're lower than dirt, I don't need to take orders from some freak. If you don't like what I say, leave like the coward you are.

How have I demonstrated to be cowardly?

And I've said at least twice that you have as much freedom of speech as I do.

They were already downfallen. Your scenario doesn't work because there was more than one party in the original scenario.

Not when Hitler had them at their height. Right before he fucked up and dragged them back down.

JustAnotherGapingAsshole is a known faggot, that's why I'm referring to him as such. Get your facts straight kid.

You called the entire opposition faggots in the thread on Totse.


I'm not gonna call him a faggot, he hasn't proven that yet. He may just be a moron.

Fine, then. Everybody who disagrees with you is somehow lesser than you.

It's a hell of an arrogant view.
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Anyway, JUST As the argument on totse, you and your ilk have bastardized this debate into little more than name calling and bullshit, and just as the argument on totse played out, I concede. I don't know why I let myself get dragged into these arguments anymore, I really don't.
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Inb4"Justanothergapingassholeisastupidfaggotwhocannotco meupwithacounterargument"

[13579]

Heh, I'm really enjoying reading this.

Personally, I don't give a shit. Gays are just as good (Or bad) as the rest of us in my book, I see no reason for any of this.

[Marquis In Spades]

its because they like gay people and they in iowa think freaks have rights too how cute

[Mantikore]

i dont really care :mad:

[skinny love]

hell yeah iowa. i support gay marriage because it pisses the christians off. why do they care so much if other people of the same sex want to get married? it doesn't even affect them.

[water bottle]

:facepalm:

I don't understand why this is such an issue for Americans. Seriously... who gives a fuck? Do you really think the country is going to go to shit (or, get shittier) if two men get married? Sometimes I wonder if you people are retarded or if you're just trolling. Any informed or reasonable person realizes that gay people are... well, gay. There's nothing they can do about it, even if they wanted to do anything about it. It's a natural thing that's existed since the dawn of time. We might as well recognize these facts and stop giving gay people such a hard time. Any straight guy who isn't retarded should be able to agree with most or all of the things I've written here.

please stop listening to what the highschool shoves down your throat and go travel abroad and learn about the world.

I've traveled. It's funny, though, traveling never made me irrationally homophobic.

Go pick up a book and get some help, educated folk are speaking.

Again, that's funny. I go to a university that's ranked 27th in the world (12th for social sciences, my field) and I've never heard anything about how destructive it would be to allow gay people a really basic and largely ceremonial right. :rolleyes:

Fuck, people. We did this nation-wide in Canada years ago. Other countries have done the same. It really doesn't have a negative effect on society. Get over it!

[skyclaw441]

As a straight Iowan, I support this law. Marriage is a right, a right to love that will be declared between two people that love each other no matter who they are. Fuck all of the haters, like Bigg LJ, you fucking right winger. You deserve a big, rainbow-flag noose around your neck. Oh, and I'm Christian as well, so suck on those apples. Seriously, some days, I want to just go to an anti-gay chruch, trash it, and hang a big rainbow flag off of the cross. Fuck haters and homophobes.

[BiggLJ]

I concede.

All I needed to hear. I'd respond to the rest of your bullshit but you've already admitted defeat, so why should I bother? Chalk up another victory to the bigg one, another foe decimated.

Again, that's funny. I go to a university that's ranked 27th in the world (12th for social sciences, my field) and I've never heard anything about how destructive it would be to allow gay people a really basic and largely ceremonial right. :rolleyes:

Fuck, people. We did this nation-wide in Canada years ago. Other countries have done the same. It really doesn't have a negative effect on society. Get over it!

It doesn't really matter whether it's detrimental to society or not (it is, but obviously some people are just too ignorant to figure that out). The majority of the US population is opposed to gay marriage. Whether for religious reasons or because it's just plain disgusting doesn't matter. This is our country, and we will impose our will on it. Any gays that don't like that should find somewhere else to live or learn to deal with it. The Supreme Court can play as many pathetic tricks as they want, the people will continue to overrule them just as we did with Prop 8.

As a straight Iowan, I support this law. Marriage is a right, a right to love that will be declared between two people that love each other no matter who they are. Fuck all of the haters, like Bigg LJ, you fucking right winger. You deserve a big, rainbow-flag noose around your neck. Oh, and I'm Christian as well, so suck on those apples. Seriously, some days, I want to just go to an anti-gay chruch, trash it, and hang a big rainbow flag off of the cross. Fuck haters and homophobes.

Just because you call yourself something doesn't make it true. Calling yourself straight when you're clearly a fag in the closet is admirable, but to truly be straight you need to get some professional help to cure your disease. Calling yourself Christian when you don't even follow the teachings is pathetic. Get some help.

[PROJECT PAT]

As a straight Iowan, I support this law. Marriage is a right, a right to love that will be declared between two people that love each other no matter who they are. Fuck all of the haters, like Bigg LJ, you fucking right winger. You deserve a big, rainbow-flag noose around your neck. Oh, and I'm Christian as well, so suck on those apples. Seriously, some days, I want to just go to an anti-gay chruch, trash it, and hang a big rainbow flag off of the cross. Fuck haters and homophobes.

You're an Iowan? Where do you live?

[ants in my poptarts]

All I needed to hear. I'd respond to the rest of your bullshit but you've already admitted defeat, so why should I bother? Chalk up another victory to the bigg one, another foe decimated.



It doesn't really matter whether it's detrimental to society or not (it is, but obviously some people are just too ignorant to figure that out). The majority of the US population is opposed to gay marriage. Whether for religious reasons or because it's just plain disgusting doesn't matter. This is our country, and we will impose our will on it. Any gays that don't like that should find somewhere else to live or learn to deal with it. The Supreme Court can play as many pathetic tricks as they want, the people will continue to overrule them just as we did with Prop 8.



Just because you call yourself something doesn't make it true. Calling yourself straight when you're clearly a fag in the closet is admirable, but to truly be straight you need to get some professional help to cure your disease. Calling yourself Christian when you don't even follow the teachings is pathetic. Get some help.

you should keep your post's shorter and simpler. You wont look as stupid.

[El Monstruo]

This is an abomination :mad:

[ants in my poptarts]

This is an abomination :mad:

care to elaborate?

[Nero]

hey man u wanna be gay u be gay :)

[Born on a train]

That's the problem, you're a fucking bitch. People like you are the reason the government does whatever the fuck they want. You'll stand aside as long as something doesn't effect you personally. That's pathetic. You really want children growing up in a world where faggotry is seen as an acceptable lifestyle choice? I know I don't.


because if they did then they'd have to deal with less bigotry?

shit that would be a disaster :eek:

[Fuck the FBI]

This is gay....it blows enough living here now all the homos will flood in... :facepalm:

[Yggdrasil]

This is gay....it blows enough living here now all the homos will flood in... :facepalm:

I think that most other states with laws prohibiting gay marriage don't recognize such marriages performed in a state that does. Correct me if I'm wrong, please

[Fuck the FBI]

I think that most other states with laws prohibiting gay marriage don't recognize such marriages performed in a state that does. Correct me if I'm wrong, please

Yeah but they'll move here then get married...Still blows ass :picard:

[PROJECT PAT]

Yeah but they'll move here then get married...Still blows ass :picard:

They'll all come to Iowa City. I'm the one that has to deal with this shit. Not like I don't already have to see about fifty middle aged dykes with butch hair cuts, flannel cut offs, and hairy armpits everyday anyway.

[CarlWinslow]

As a straight Iowan, I support this law. Marriage is a right, a right to love that will be declared between two people that love each other no matter who they are. Fuck all of the haters, like Bigg LJ, you fucking right winger. You deserve a big, rainbow-flag noose around your neck. Oh, and I'm Christian as well, so suck on those apples. Seriously, some days, I want to just go to an anti-gay chruch, trash it, and hang a big rainbow flag off of the cross. Fuck haters and homophobes.

So, you're not a christian?

[El Monstruo]

fag marriage is disgusting

[elf omg]

fag marriage is disgusting

Why are you so mean?

And why did you spend so much time talking to a transsexual mexican/white halfbreed, if you hold these opinions?

[JustAnotherAsshole]

Yeah but they'll move here then get married...Still blows ass :picard:

Why would they Move there?

They're going to give up all their friends and the surroundings they're accustomed to so that they can move to Iowa and get married? They're more likely to take a short trip there, get married and go home.