Dog
04-10-2009, 12:50 AM
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/92537/eminems-palin-spoof-condemned-by-bill-oreilly/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkzQYns61Q
On Yahoo I noticed a headline about Bill O Reilly's anger over Eminem's new video. It's for a song called "We Made You", and in it he basically makes fun of several female celebrities that have been making a fool out of themselves in the media for the past year. It all basically boils down to mocking them for their obvious problems or strange behavior, and then saying that he wants to or wanted to bang them. Like, he talks about how he wishes Lindsey Lohan would come back to men, or how he doesn't know why Portia De Rossi is with Ellen, or Kim Kardashian's big ass, or how he wants to nail Palin, etc. Basically, he puts the thoughts of every man into the spotlight. :cool:
I didn't hear or see a single "sexist" or misogynist thing in that video, and yet Bill O'Reilly thinks it's an attack on women, interviewed some feminist, and for a political spin, he started ranting about how no one cares when a Republican gets insulted.
On the misogynism front, I'm absolutely annoyed by how people characterize anything even remotely unpleasant, coming from men toward females (specific individuals or a specific group of women) as "misogynistic". The word means "hating women". Calling Sarah Palin stupid does not mean you hate women. Talking about how you wish such-and-such lesbian was still interested in men does not mean you hate women. Even not voting for Hilary Clinton because you didn't want a female president does not mean you hate women.
As for sexism, there's a similar problem. Many people seem to think that being sexually crude toward women is equivalent to not valuing them as being of equal worth. Men want to have sex with attractive women. There's nothing sexist about expressing that in a blatant way, nor is there anything sexist about, for instance, Eminem saying he wants to have sex with all these women. It's crude and rude, definitely, but it has no bearing on how one actually values women. Even guys who do stuff like slapping girls' asses aren't necessarily sexist, as being disrespectful doesn't necessarily require that you feel you're superior.
Finally, the political nonsense that O'Reilly brought up is bullshit, of course. No one cares when Palin gets mocked, not because she's a Republican, but because she's effectively earned the mockery. No one cared when Bush was mocked, because he too effectively earned the mockery.
What are your thoughts on the video, the use of words like mysogyny and sexism, and perhaps the current status of gender relations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIkzQYns61Q
On Yahoo I noticed a headline about Bill O Reilly's anger over Eminem's new video. It's for a song called "We Made You", and in it he basically makes fun of several female celebrities that have been making a fool out of themselves in the media for the past year. It all basically boils down to mocking them for their obvious problems or strange behavior, and then saying that he wants to or wanted to bang them. Like, he talks about how he wishes Lindsey Lohan would come back to men, or how he doesn't know why Portia De Rossi is with Ellen, or Kim Kardashian's big ass, or how he wants to nail Palin, etc. Basically, he puts the thoughts of every man into the spotlight. :cool:
I didn't hear or see a single "sexist" or misogynist thing in that video, and yet Bill O'Reilly thinks it's an attack on women, interviewed some feminist, and for a political spin, he started ranting about how no one cares when a Republican gets insulted.
On the misogynism front, I'm absolutely annoyed by how people characterize anything even remotely unpleasant, coming from men toward females (specific individuals or a specific group of women) as "misogynistic". The word means "hating women". Calling Sarah Palin stupid does not mean you hate women. Talking about how you wish such-and-such lesbian was still interested in men does not mean you hate women. Even not voting for Hilary Clinton because you didn't want a female president does not mean you hate women.
As for sexism, there's a similar problem. Many people seem to think that being sexually crude toward women is equivalent to not valuing them as being of equal worth. Men want to have sex with attractive women. There's nothing sexist about expressing that in a blatant way, nor is there anything sexist about, for instance, Eminem saying he wants to have sex with all these women. It's crude and rude, definitely, but it has no bearing on how one actually values women. Even guys who do stuff like slapping girls' asses aren't necessarily sexist, as being disrespectful doesn't necessarily require that you feel you're superior.
Finally, the political nonsense that O'Reilly brought up is bullshit, of course. No one cares when Palin gets mocked, not because she's a Republican, but because she's effectively earned the mockery. No one cared when Bush was mocked, because he too effectively earned the mockery.
What are your thoughts on the video, the use of words like mysogyny and sexism, and perhaps the current status of gender relations?