Murder - Could you do it?

[RoadSideGlory]

I've never posted anything remotely seriously on &T or Zoklet, certainly anything like I'm about to write, and I seriously doubt I'll get a response that wasn't for lulz, but I can going to tempt fate and answer a question in hope that some kind members should shed some light on the thoughts I've been having over the last 10 minutes or so.

Where do you personally stand on the point of taking somebody else's life?

While I hate to play the "Nobody loves me card", after all I know that many have grown up in far more awkward social situations that myself, I have always craved to be socially popular and accepted, in any group for anything, I didn't care as long as I lived the idealistic life I saw portrayed on Television, as ridiculous as that may sound. Of course, my life didn't go as planned, and now I'm left at 17 with the feeling that my life is already over and completely and utterly worthless.

I'm not sure, but I think over my teenage years the worth of life has become eroded away the value of life to me. Which is a shame really, I think I was a pretty sensitive child, I still think some of that sensitivity lives on, but for every moment that I get into this mind set, for every moment that I live this existence that hasn't lived up to my great expectations, I feel it die.

Usually my block for even thinking, was the "What if I get caught" scenario, but now I'm getting to the point where I just don't care. I want a reason to exist, a reason to get up and breathe and every moment that I don't have such a reason, it kills me. I used to hate just my life, now I feel myself getting to the point where I just hate life. Not mine, (because that would be far too easy), but Life itself. It is bigoted, deluded and overrated - These are the qualities that I detest in human beings, so why should I put up with them in an idea?

I do need a reason to exist, a reason greater than work and promises of material wealth. That might have seen we through when I was broke, but now I see that it doesn't mean Jack. That's what 99.9% of people straddle through life hoping to achieve, and look where it gets most of them - A dead end job, loveless marriage, brat kids and a Mortgage :facepalm:.

Talking about taking the anger of my failed existence by ending others'. I must sound like a charming fellow :facepalm:.

[samguy700]

Mini Statistics
Join Date
02-02-2009
Total Posts
29


he is a troll or a police officer and to think i was about to answer god i m stupid god talk about gut feeling

[Gantz Graf]

That does look funny ;)

Anybody can take another persons life. Once you get past all of this religious BS or the artificial morality the television puts in your head, you can do pretty much anything.

I agree, push anyone hard enough and they can do anything. Even the most sensitive or seemingly moral people.

Well, almost anyone. I'm not sure about, say, Buddha, or Jesus, or those monks who self immolated themselves in protest of the whole Tibet thing.

But most people, yeah, definitely.

[RoadSideGlory]

Mini Statistics
Join Date
02-02-2009
Total Posts
29


he is a troll or a police officer and to think i was about to answer god i m stupid god talk about gut feeling

What was that about post counts and dick sizes? :facepalm:

[Euliyae]

I could do it.
I've spent sometime thinking about the how, the who and the where and
I've come up with a pretty solid plan.
However, the key word was 'could' so anybody with little alarm bells
going off can silence them.

[God Like]

yeah your first time is always the hardest...dont worry it gets easier

[Cytosine]

With glee.

I think about it on an almost daily basis, so why not?

[1983]

There's a reason why I try not to fight anymore with people... Mostly cause of the last guy I put in the ER when I blacked out and woke up covered in what I'm assuming was his blood.

There's other "Instances" where I'm unsure of the outcome but it all dates back from when I was a wee lad up until my last year of high school... Proud to say I haven't needed to be in a fight since.

Al

[AtrainV]

I'm moving this to the Inhumane Condition. It has much more to do with ethics, morality, and the human condition than it does with psychology.

[Cliche Guevara]

Statistically speaking like 90 percent of murders happen in the heat of the moment. (which is why premeditated murder is so particularly heinous).

I think its safe to say you aren't going to be meticulously planning a murder so as long as you keep happy, un murderous thoughts you won't become a killa.

[Cliche Guevara]

theres a difference between thinking about violence and thinking about actually ending someones life.

[Butcher]

I agree that most people could do it under the right circumstances, but there have been cases throughout history of men who physically couldn't kill because of psychological factors, meaning their arm or hand became paralyzed when faced with the decision to kill, which was "miraculously healed" once they got off the battlefield, this wasn't faked though, the psychological pressure literally disabled them temporarily. Back in the days of musket warfare where rows of men would stand and shoot, some would miss on purpose even though they were fully exposed and vulnerable to gunfire.

[Butcher]

^Like I said, I agree that most people could do it, but there have been cases of those examples I gave, which can't be denied. It's not so black and white, like people just fearing the consequences, most of our actions are based in our subconscious mind which we are unaware of. In a war zone where its kill or be killed, those people who became paralyzed probably consciously wanted to kill and survive, but the subconscious factors were too much for them, rendering them useless.

Maybe it is because they're defective, after all if a person can't to kill to save their own life, they have failed in their Darwinian fitness.

[The Better Version]

I think it's natural for anyone to kill in self defense, because as one poster stated, it is natural to value your own life and to do everything that is humanly possible to survive. But to willingly want to kill someone for absolutely no reason or for a very stupid and insignificant reason, is most certainly unnatural. People like school shooters or serial killers are, in my opinion, very different from everyone else and exhibit unnatural desires.

Now that doesn't mean people who kill not in self defense but for other very good reasons is natural. For instance, if someone willfully massacred someone's family, got him fired and in a position where he is unable to work, burned his house down, and killed his dog, it is natural for him to want to kill that person. I think everyone has that breaking point where someone has been wronged so bad that it literally brings them to that point of wanting to kill that person. Of course we all have different breaking points, but we all have that breaking point...at least all normal people.

Whether your someone who doesn't have that breaking point or someone who has a small or no breaking point, your abnormal either way.

[Vizier]

Yes. That is all.

[Death_Merchant]

I could kill a person no problem. It's just a hassle to kill someone. Pretty easy to get away with too. If I wanted to kill someone, I likely wouldn't suffer any moral issues afterwards. Probably just forget it happened, and it would simply slip into the past. Seems like a lot of work though, so I'm not sure what my motive would be to make it happen. I could easily do it though.

[Captain Politik]

Murdering an innocent person? hell no

Murdering a murderer or rapist who decides to end the hostage situation and give up? yes I could easily

[sky173t]

Anyone who has a moral problem with killing others is a brainwashed idiot. Death happens all the time and they'll die eventually. People act like it is a big thing because it's unreversable, well unreversible change happens all the time if u've ever read a thermodynamics textbook. With enough pain anyone can be pushed to kill. I used to be disturbed at the thought of the idea but since my life has totally sucked now I just think it would be stupid since it could get u killed or thrown in jail so easily and that would interfere with my plans;) I would do whatever is neccessary to surive.

[I'mAfraidofJapan]

Become a mercenary!!!!

[Young Meth]

Mini Statistics
Join Date
02-02-2009
Total Posts
29


he is a troll or a police officer and to think i was about to answer god i m stupid god talk about gut feeling

Or he is just at least mildly intelligent

Which I can't say for you

[Young Meth]

umm.. probably not. i feel bad when people are on the ground and i can't continue fucking them up.

[Surprise Buttsecks]

Entirely circumstantial. I mean, if some guy killed my entire family then I would feel obliged to not only return the favour, but make sure he see's a swift exit also. Well, perhaps not too swift..

But just random strangers who haven't done anything to me? No. Some bullies in school making my life hell? I take comfort in the fact that they will never amount to anything meaningful, which manifests in a sort of loathe filled pity, so no again.

Unless I suddenly went crazy. That would be pretty awesome.

[Travis Bickle]

Sure why not, might as well experience everything in life at least once.

[Darkhunter]

I think I could murder someone. Hell I think about it all the time. Guy cuts me off in traffic I think about following him, finding where he lives and killing him in his home or when I fail a test tracking down my professor and killing him. Now do I do it? I would but the hassle of people seeing a change in you after the death is why I really never would do it plus I talk in my sleep sometimes and I bet I would fuck up and talk about how I killed someone.

TL/DR: Would I do it? Yes. Why don't I? Too many reasons to how I would be fucked and caught.

[Skater14]

No. Taking a human's life is pointless, unless fighting for your country.

[Darkhunter]

No. Taking a human's life is pointless, unless fighting for your country.

And even fighting for your country is sometimes pointless

[Skater14]

And even fighting for your country is sometimes pointless

Depends on the occasion, I guess.

[samguy700]

Last Activity: 6 Days Ago


Statistics
Total Posts

* Total Posts: 31
* Posts Per Day: 0.35
* Last Post: engines/transmissions that take abuse 2 Weeks Ago 06:55 PM
* Find all posts by RoadSideGlory
* Find all threads started by RoadSideGlory


so this guy has made 2 posts in the last 3 weeks lols he is troll

[SHH]

Defiantly.

[Hammer Tank]

shut up sam....

i think about it sometimes, and could probably do it in the right circumstances. but life in prison is a pretty good deterrent.

[Function Zero]

maybe it is because they're defective, after all if a person can't to kill to save their own life, they have failed in their darwinian fitness.

son - come out of the basement, dinner's ready

[Ecko]

I could do it for certain people easily. I would happily do it to some people if I had the chance to do it and never get it. Easily and happily.

I could do it for enough money also. $500,000 or more I think.

[Vox Ducis]

You are all under arrest !

[WAN]

I would probably never murder a regular person (unless he killed my loved ones); however there are certain political figures that I wouldn't mind assasinating.

[Syphilis]

If they were asking for it, sure. Human bodies are fragile.

[RoadSideGlory]

Last Activity: 6 Days Ago


Statistics
Total Posts

* Total Posts: 31
* Posts Per Day: 0.35
* Last Post: engines/transmissions that take abuse 2 Weeks Ago 06:55 PM
* Find all posts by RoadSideGlory
* Find all threads started by RoadSideGlory


so this guy has made 2 posts in the last 3 weeks lols he is troll

Hold the fuck up.

Just because I don't feel the need to post whore is just about in every thread to spread my thoughts as a Ignorant White supremacist/Stoner/General fucktard I am suddenly a troll? Fuck off

Stop trying to measure your worth in life by a post count on an obscure forum, dickhead.

Cheers :).

[ChickenOfDoom]

I probably could given the right circumstances, but I think I would either kill myself or turn myself in afterwards. Human life isn't something that has to be defended at all costs, but it should be respected. I would only kill someone if it was somehow worth more than my own life to do so.

[Flatland]

If the person deserved it in my eyes. Then I could definately do it.

You'd have to do something very bad for me to believe you deserve to die. But once it is enough to sway me, I could definately kill you without feeling any remorse.

[DEADxHYPE]

I always feel like I wanna kill someone.. like.. literally dig my nails into their skin til I'm able to rip their face off.. & I have sick murderous fantasies that you don't wanna know about lmao.. But at the end of the day it's not mine or anyone else's place to say who lives or dies.

And what gets me about the human body.. is how it can conjure up so much strength, physically.. but something as pathetic as sucker punch can knock someone out for good. LOL Interesting.

[Agent 008]

Read "Crime and Punishment" by Dostoievsky if you haven't already. You sound like you will really enjoy it.

[Other Side of the Pillow]

There are people out there who live an unsightly existence that I feel deserve to be smited.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

I'm on a 10-kill streak right now.

[Method of Madness]

I could definitely kill someone. About once a week I dream that I kill someone then panic and look for a gun. Put gun to head and pull trigger, then I wake up

[NTP]

Of course. I think anyone could.

[Syphilis]

I'm on a 10-kill streak right now.

Only because you're hacking.

[Syphilis]

But yeah, I could.

It's weird. Human bodies are so fragile and easy to break if you know what you're doing, but if you don't know what you're doing, you'll be going at it for quite a while.

[hostie]

Read "Crime and Punishment" by Dostoievsky if you haven't already. You sound like you will really enjoy it.

I was so sad to learn it was written in a novel format when I was looking more for abstract existentialism. But now that you're reminded me, I will go pay it a visit. :hrmph:

Did you like it?

[Syphilis]

And here is a very NSFW instruction manual:

http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/worst-beheading-video-ever-horrific-sound-massive-blood-loss/

The text in the link kind of spoils any surprises.

[Function Zero]

I was so sad to learn it was written in a novel format when I was looking more for abstract existentialism. But now that you're reminded me, I will go pay it a visit. :hrmph:

Did you like it?

C&P is a -very- good book, provided that you give it due respect as a tale rather than just a psychological profile of Raskolnikov et al. Not to say that it doesn't have some deep insights, it's just not ALL about that.

Read it.