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Dog
04-13-2009, 07:44 PM
First he lifted the ban on stem-cell research, he's been working to improve relations with Europeans (particularly Russians), and now he's trying to get unlimited travel to Cuba. Obama is the fucking man. :thumbsup:

I can't wait for the health-care and education reform to start taking place. I'm glad to see he wasn't bullshitting us and is making some real, progressive, positive changes. Now, if someone could get this country to stop shitting out criminals, we might not suck so much in comparison to Canada and Europe.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 07:53 PM
Yay! Unlimited travel to Cuba! A third world shithole, humid tropical environment, no toilet paper, little running water, free marxist education, a non-white majority, bananas and refried beans. Every non-white's wet dream.

Cytosine
04-13-2009, 07:59 PM
Yay! Unlimited travel to Cuba! A third world shithole, humid tropical environment, no toilet paper, little running water, free marxist education, a non-white majority, bananas and refried beans. Every non-white's wet dream.

You forgot tequila and free healthcare.

It's nice to see that Obama isn't acting like the Cold War is still on. Maybe having a closer trading partner will help improve shit in Cuba, although I don't trust the Americans to get over their "ZOMG COMMIES" problem any time soon.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 08:04 PM
You may think you're getting free or reformed healthcare, but none of you faggots are going to get to enjoy when Obama gives amnesty to more than fifteen million illegal aliens residing in this country right now, and they put their children on it, and anyone who's been down south knows how many children these Mexicans can push out. As for getting rid of criminals I doubt Barack will be deporting the non-whites any time soon. Good foreign relations? People were planning to assassinate him on his arrogant little trip around the world a few days ago. Russians hate him, and the non-western European nations and of course the middle east are laughing at the fact that a nigger is in charge. Speaking of foreign relations, Obama broke his promise to mention the Armenian genocide in Turkey a few days ago, could you imagine if he forgot to bring up the Holocaust on his Israeli trips? They would make sure he isn't elected next year.

SleepyGorillaMuseum
04-13-2009, 08:27 PM
I can't wait for the health-care

lemme guess, you think universal-health care is a good thing?

Built To Last
04-13-2009, 08:32 PM
Yay! Unlimited travel to Cuba! A third world shithole, humid tropical environment, no toilet paper, little running water, free marxist education, a non-white majority, bananas and refried beans. Every non-white's wet dream.

A baby born in Havana, Cuba has a better chance of survival and a longer life expectancy than a child born in Detroit, Michigan.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 08:38 PM
Your point being? Detroit, Michigan is one of if not the blackest city in America, it is in every sense of the word a third world city.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 08:41 PM
Why the fuck are you idiots bying into Jim "fuck latinos" Carrey's poor trolling? You're all a bunch of communist faggots.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 08:42 PM
lemme guess, you think universal-health care is a good thing?

Yes, you stupid pile of shit. Ask any European, or the friendly yet backwards Canadians. If my government were responsible and handled things well, I would be proud to pay my taxes.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 08:43 PM
Snoopy, it's not only ironic that you are calling me a troll, it's sad that you're too much of a pussy to believe that I could indeed be expressing my genuine opinion. Yggdrasil makes yet another retarded post as expected.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Yes, you stupid pile of shit. Ask any European, or the friendly yet backwards Canadians.

Free healthcare isn't all positive. I live in Belgium, the country that claims it has the best health care system in the world. While the healthcare here is very, very cheap, it is also tends to decrease the quality of the care itself. What good is having an almost-free doctor per 10 inhabitants if he's a moron. I'm not even going to mention the hospitals. There's a bunch of articles on this on the net, although they're all dutch. Look em up.

The prhase; "you get what you pay for" narrows it down.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 08:48 PM
Snoopy, it's not only ironic that you are calling me a troll, it's sad that you're too much of a pussy to believe that I could indeed be expressing my genuine opinion. Yggdrasil makes yet another retarded post as expected.

I wasn't dissing you, I was dissing all the morons who took your poor trolling seriously. Your opinion is what I clean my asshole with, holmes.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 08:49 PM
Snoopy pretty much hit the nail on the head with his comments regarding universal health care.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 08:49 PM
Living in an area with such proximity to Cuba, I can attest that this move by president Obama is yet another masterful stroke at improving our relations with the world, and one that is widely lauded. Many Cubans here have family that they cannot see or visit, and this lifting of restrictions is warmly welcomed. I see no reason to continue these unproductive Cold War tactics with the Cubans.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 08:50 PM
Snoopy pretty much hit the nail on the head with his comments regarding universal health care.

Now we shall make babies.

Azure
04-13-2009, 08:51 PM
You may think you're getting free or reformed healthcare, but none of you faggots are going to get to enjoy when Obama gives amnesty to more than fifteen million illegal aliens residing in this country right now, and they put their children on it, and anyone who's been down south knows how many children these Mexicans can push out. As for getting rid of criminals I doubt Barack will be deporting the non-whites any time soon. Good foreign relations? People were planning to assassinate him on his arrogant little trip around the world a few days ago. Russians hate him, and the non-western European nations and of course the middle east are laughing at the fact that a nigger is in charge. Speaking of foreign relations, Obama broke his promise to mention the Armenian genocide in Turkey a few days ago, could you imagine if he forgot to bring up the Holocaust on his Israeli trips? They would make sure he isn't elected next year.

Off topic, ban pl0x.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 08:52 PM
Living in an area with such proximity to Cuba, I can attest that this move by president Obama is yet another masterful stroke at improving our relations with the world, and one that is widely lauded. Many Cubans here have family that they cannot see or visit, and this lifting of restrictions is warmly welcomed. I see no reason to continue these unproductive Cold War tactics with the Cubans.

Despite what everyone in this thread is saying, Cuba is one sweet place to go to on vacation. It's super cheap, it's tropical, they have good cuisine, good drinks, laid back people and women who will do just about anything.

Providing you don't get mixed up in some kind of retarded politics, it's a very decent place to visit. Although with the way the economy is going, pretty much anywhere is cheap to go now.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 08:53 PM
Free healthcare isn't all positive. I live in Belgium, the country that claims it has the best health care system in the world. While the healthcare here is very, very cheap, it is also tends to decrease the quality of the care itself. What good is having an almost-free doctor per 10 inhabitants if he's a moron. I'm not even going to mention the hospitals. There's a bunch of articles on this on the net, although they're all dutch. Look em up.

The prhase; "you get what you pay for" narrows it down.

A standardised system of healthcare is better than one comprised of several large, greedy monopolies that can charge upwards of a hundred dollars for a fucking pill. Again, I see no qualm in paying higher taxes if my money is wisely spent. If the government decides to embark on a crusade for oil, however, I might just consider not paying them at all! The "free" enterprise healthcare system currently in place in the US has many disadvantaged Americans on a stranglehold.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 08:53 PM
And that's in Europe where the non-white population is not yet as problematic as that in the USA (still horrible though). As I mentioned before, you have more than fifteen million illegal aliens, central and south American citizens, and blacks who do not pay taxes but will suck up the services as they are more prone to disease, mental problems, etc. You cannot sustain a healthcare system that caters to a community of filth that is paid for by the minority (white taxpayers). Why you degenerate, self-loathing, anti-progress faggots are so susceptible to this bullshit is so fascinating, it is as if you are all genuine, certifiable retards.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 08:56 PM
And that's in Europe where the non-white population is not yet as problematic as that in the USA (still horrible though). As I mentioned before, you have more than fifteen million illegal aliens, central and south American citizens, and blacks who do not pay taxes but will suck up the services as they are more prone to disease, mental problems, etc. You cannot sustain a healthcare system that caters to a community of filth that is paid for by the minority (white taxpayers). Why you degenerate, self-loathing, anti-progress faggots are so susceptible to this bullshit is so fascinating, it is as if you are all genuine, certifiable retards.

Your quickness to generalise these ethnicities is astounding. Perhaps our reluctance to invest in social programs is the reason many of this country's newest and most disadvantaged residents slip through the cracks.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 08:56 PM
A standardised system of healthcare is better than one comprised of several large, greedy monopolies that can charge upwards of a hundred dollars for a fucking pill. Again, I see no qualm in paying higher taxes if my money is wisely spent. If the government decides to embark on a crusade for oil, however, I might just consider not paying them at all! The "free" enterprise healthcare system currently in place in the US has many disadvantaged Americans on a stranglehold.

Well, I guess that not being able to choose is a rather big bummer for the poorer American. Even though I can choose for cheap healthcare, I chose the more expensive private health insurance. It's a lot more expensive, but at least I have total coverage and can stay at all the good hospitals around Europe if I get seriously injured.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 09:00 PM
Well, I guess that not being able to choose is a rather big bummer for the poorer American. Even though I can choose for cheap healthcare, I chose the more expensive private health insurance. It's a lot more expensive, but at least I have total coverage and can stay at all the good hospitals around Europe if I get seriously injured.

You're absolutely correct. Under the healthcare plan Obama is attempting to pass, one could still choose private health insurance, provided you can afford it, while the poor can use the free, government sponsored one. It's a wonder this hasn't been implemented before.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 09:01 PM
Your quickness to generalise these ethnicities is astounding. Perhaps our reluctance to invest in social programs is the reason many of this country's newest and most disadvantaged residents slip through the cracks.

?

Go to an emergency room waiting area in Phoenix, Los Angeles, or any city in the south west/Texas and perhaps even other parts of the nation. Preferebly at night. What are you going to see? A bunch of fat ass Mexicans and a shitload of children that aren't in need of emergency medical care. Their existence alone at the emergency room costs millions nationwide. They're already getting free medical care, it just isn't completely taxpayer funded and official. They are costing our healthcare system more than anyone here can imagine. Why you feel throwing more money at them is going to fix anything is beyond me. You are most certainly a troll.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 09:02 PM
You're going to have a hard time affording private insurance when you're paying for the healthcare of millions of non-whites who do not deserve to live; at least within the white population.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 09:04 PM
You're absolutely correct. Under the healthcare plan Obama is attempting to pass, one could still choose private health insurance, provided you can afford it, while the poor can use the free, government sponsored one. It's a wonder this hasn't been implemented before.

Yes, but that is a rather unamerican thing to do, if I'm not mistaken. Government sponsored free healthcare will mean adding new taxes. Not raising the existing ones, but adding a new tax. You see, I don't make use of Belgiums free healthcare system, but I still partially pay for it. And this in my opinion isn't correct. Not that I know how much I even contribute. This country's taxing system is retarded. My paycheck gets cut by 55% income tax every month. I just don't see your common American agreeing to something like that. If it ain't apple pie and .50 cal snipers, then it must be a 12 gauge with hambuergers or you can kiss your commie ass back to Euroland.

ObsidianZ
04-13-2009, 09:05 PM
There was a big debate over two-tiered healthcare in Canada a few years back. The main problem was that superior health care was only available to those that could afford it. If you couldn't, you were stuck with the crappy free healthcare. It was seen as a form of discrimination. Instead, they opted to improve the universal healthcare system, which quite honestly, was pretty decent in the first place.


*ObZ

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 09:07 PM
?

Go to an emergency room waiting area in Phoenix, Los Angeles, or any city in the south west/Texas and perhaps even other parts of the nation. Preferebly at night. What are you going to see? A bunch of fat ass Mexicans and a shitload of children that aren't in need of emergency medical care. Their existence alone at the emergency room costs millions nationwide. They're already getting free medical care, it just isn't completely taxpayer funded and official. They are costing our healthcare system more than anyone here can imagine. Why you feel throwing more money at them is going to fix anything is beyond me. You are most certainly a troll.

No, they do not. You on crack? With proper education, opportunity, and a good generation's worth of assimilation, immigrants to this country will only join the ranks of us "Americans". Many of the Cubans here in Miami are indistinguishable from whites culturally, and sometimes even physically. They're active in politics, sports, and they form a vibrant part of the local community, this of course after a good couple of decades of assimilation. Why you don't want to give other immigrant groups similar opportunities?

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 09:10 PM
Yes, but that is a rather unamerican thing to do, if I'm not mistaken. Government sponsored free healthcare will mean adding new taxes. Not raising the existing ones, but adding a new tax. You see, I don't make use of Belgiums free healthcare system, but I still partially pay for it. And this in my opinion isn't correct. Not that I know how much I even contribute. This country's taxing system is retarded. My paycheck gets cut by 55% income tax every month. I just don't see your common American agreeing to something like that. If it ain't apple pie and .50 cal snipers, then it must be a 12 gauge with hambuergers or you can kiss your commie ass back to Euroland.

The average American is a slackjawed dipshit who cares only about the latest Hollywood flick, the football game last night, and avoiding taxes, all the while bitching the government isn't active enough.

God. Well, as Obz said, maybe private healthcare can, over time, be abolished, and replaced with a superior healthcare system. This way, all benefit from it effectively.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 09:12 PM
No, they do not. You on crack? With proper education, opportunity, and a good generation's worth of assimilation, immigrants to this country will only join the ranks of us "Americans".

Only the European and east-Asian immigrants.

Many of the Cubans here in Miami are indistinguishable from whites culturally, and sometimes even physically.

Cuba has a racially mixed culture; some Cubans are white.

They're active in politics, sports, and they form a vibrant part of the local community

Who the fuck cares?

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 09:13 PM
The average American is a slackjawed dipshit who cares only about the latest Hollywood flick, the football game last night, and avoiding taxes, all the while bitching the government isn't active enough.

God. Well, as Obz said, maybe private healthcare can, over time, be abolished, and replaced with a superior healthcare system. This way, all benefit from it effectively.

All non-Americans line up, Yggdrasil is swallowing this Monday evening.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 09:15 PM
Only the European and east-Asian immigrants.

See my example of the Cubans. Some are white, but many are of darker skin, and all equally represented as Americans, paying taxes and as involded as the next, white-American citizen



Cuba has a racially mixed culture; some Cubans are white.
See above


Who the fuck cares?

Cop out. See above. It shows that any group of immigrants, Asians, Hispanics or Whites, can thrive given opportunities and time to assimilate.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 09:18 PM
Who found out Yggdrasil's password?

El Monstruo
04-13-2009, 09:24 PM
Barack Hussein Obama has ended the embargo on communist Cuba, so now the 1.5 million Americans with relatives in Cuba will be free to send millions in remittances to Cuba. Think of the millions that Mexicans have sent to Mexico.

Cuba deserves to dry up and wither, but now the communist island will probably flourish with American money, as value-reduced as it is.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 09:27 PM
THANK YOU.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 09:33 PM
Barack Hussein Obama has ended the embargo on communist Cuba, so now the 1.5 million Americans with relatives in Cuba will be free to send millions in remittances to Cuba. Think of the millions that Mexicans have sent to Mexico.

Cuba deserves to dry up and wither, but now the communist island will probably flourish with American money, as value-reduced as it is.

You do realize that the majority of the Cuban leadership is comprised of eighty-something dinosaurs from "La Revolución" . Soon as they plop dead, we can expect major shifts in Cuban politics.

Snoopy
04-13-2009, 10:53 PM
Soon as they plop dead, we can expect major shifts in Cuban politics.

In a corrupt shithole power isn't elected, it's inherited.

Dog
04-13-2009, 11:35 PM
lemme guess, you think universal-health care is a good thing?

Hell yes. Having lived in Canada for the past few years, there's absolutely no doubt that it's the way to go. That's not to say that the universal healthcare system is inherently perfect; it isn't, as Snoopy pointed out. But if they can keep the quality high and control wait-times, it's much better than what we have now. It's amazing how Americans can be so averse to change, even when it's in our best interest.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 11:40 PM
What works for some nations does not work for others.

Azure
04-13-2009, 11:40 PM
In a corrupt shithole power isn't elected, it's inherited.

In every Communist nation(case in point, Khrushchev's reform following Stalin's death), there's bound to be some change in the policy of the Comintern. Very rarely does power transition from one regime to another with little change. Following Mao's death in China, the same occurred, as well as the example of every single ruler in the former USSR, etc. The little changes are what erode the system.

Stalin>Khrushchev>Breznev>Chernenko>Andropov(the last two being reverts back to Stalinism, following the failure of Brezzy, which is another possible example, provided the reforms don't work)>Gorbachev>Byebye USSR.

The same thing is happening in China- albeit far slower than it did in the Soviet Union, and the same thing, unfortunately, will likely occur in Cuba.

rabbitweed
04-13-2009, 11:43 PM
Yay! Unlimited travel to Cuba! A third world shithole, humid tropical environment, no toilet paper, little running water, free marxist education, a non-white majority, bananas and refried beans. Every non-white's wet dream.

Cuba has a lower rate of HIV infection than the United States, and public healthcare.

Cuba is also 65.5% white you dipshit.

My God, every single post you make you get so utterly owned it's almost sad.

Yggdrasil
04-13-2009, 11:48 PM
In China's case, at least, their transition worked out positively. Once Mao was gone and the Gang of Four ousted, Deng Xiaoping, whom many would call an "old-school" revolutionary, wrested control from the intended successor to the Maoist regime, Hua Guofeng, and set about establishing economic reform over a lengthy period spanning several decades. Now, thanks to his reforms of the Chinese economy, we've got ourselves an upstart superpower.

Azure
04-13-2009, 11:51 PM
In China's case, at least, their transition worked out positively. Once Mao was gone and the Gang of Four ousted, Deng Xiaoping, whom many would call an "old-school" revolutionary, wrested control from the intended successor to the Maoist regime, Hua Guofeng, and set about establishing economic reform over a lengthy period spanning several decades. Now, thanks to his reforms of the Chinese economy, we've got ourselves an upstart superpower.

Oh, of course; the economy of China has flourished under the free enterprise allowed with the reforms. However, it has come at the cost of the devolution of the communist state in China, which is solely what I was referring to. My mistake if anyone thought I was speaking negatively about the reforms.

Struwwelpeter
04-13-2009, 11:54 PM
Cuba has a lower rate of HIV infection than the United States, and public healthcare.

It's no surprise Cuba has a lower rate of HIV infection; they have effectively no immigration from non-white countries (from the lower classes, which are the HIV-infected) and they have not had influxes of Americans, a significant amount of whom carry HIV, for decades.

Cuba is also 65.5% white you dipshit.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2886.htm

OFFICIAL NAME:
Republic of Cuba

Geography
Area: 110,860 sq. km. (44,200 sq. mi.); about the size of Pennsylvania.
Cities: Capital--Havana (pop. 2 million). Other major cities--Santiago de Cuba, Camaguey, Santa Clara, Holguin, Guantanamo, Matanzas, Cienfuegos, Pinar del Rio.
Terrain: Flat or gently rolling plains, hills; mountains up to 2,000 meters (6,000 ft.) in the southeast.
Climate: Tropical, moderated by trade winds; dry season (November-April); rainy season (May-October).

People
Population: 11.2 million; 70% urban, 30% rural.
Ethnic groups: 51% mulatto, 37% white, 11% black, 1% Chinese (according to Cuban census data).
Language: Spanish. Literacy--97% (according to Cuban government sources).
Work force (4.87 million): Services--4%; industry--13%; agriculture--20%; science and technology--1%; construction--5%; education--12%; health and social services--12%.



My God, every single post you make you get so utterly owned it's almost sad.
Rabbitweed, in your envy of my popularity on this website, your attempt to "own" me has met nothing more than miserable failure, and in posting this nonsense you have managed to own yourself, as you often do on this website.

rabbitweed
04-14-2009, 12:06 AM
The CIA (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cu.html#People) disagrees strongly.

Hey guys, check out how I am intelligent enough to only post the relevant material, and not the whole thing like Jim "I dun did drank paint as kid huh-hic!" Carrey.

white 65.1%, mulatto and mestizo 24.8%, black 10.1% (2002 census)

Oh and for the record

1. If you knew any Cuban History at all you'd know that they had a big problem with HIV because of their long involvement in the wars of Angola (durrr, dat be in Africa, y'hear?), and they ruthlessly and efficiently quarantined their soldiers so that their current HIV level is far lower than the supposed "1st world" US HIV level..

2. You are not more popular than me here, and you never will be, because you're a fucking idiot that can only harp on about one thing, and you can't even do that well.

Snoopy
04-14-2009, 12:11 AM
There are more HIV cases in the US because gay me are free to run wild and spread their germs. At least communist Cuba has the decency to exterminate their gay scum!

aaaaaaah forum posting is so lol

Struwwelpeter
04-14-2009, 12:12 AM
Oh, so now the white population has increased by thirty percent? The Cuban census reports that 37 percent of the population is white. Common knowledge is that the people in Cuba, as a majority, are mulattos and other non-whites. The Cuban athletes are non-white, any pictures you find of Cuban children (i.e. through google) are majorly non-white, the majority of people who have been to Cuba will tell you they are not white, and the majority of them do not report themselves to be white. You are attempting to argue a fact as well as established as the composition of dirt. All you have done with your argument over HIV is prove my point about immigration. As for me not being as popular as you are, I have more page views than you have posts on this website. You are a certifiable retard, and you will never defeat me in an argument about anything, as I have forgotten more in the past year than you will ever learn.

Azure
04-14-2009, 12:18 AM
(i.e. through google)

:facepalm:

Struwwelpeter
04-14-2009, 12:19 AM
That train's never late.

Yggdrasil
04-14-2009, 12:46 AM
Here in the United States, people of white ancestry but of Latin-American cultural origins, such as many Cubans and myself (I'm not Cuban, don't get me wrong), are listed by the government as Hispanic, instead of white. This is arbitrary, at best, and I don't quite like being slumped into the same category as dark-skinned mestizos. Meh.. Cubans are white

Struwwelpeter
04-14-2009, 01:03 AM
Yggdrasil, you fucking idiot, yes you are white and the mestizos are non-white, you have anti-racism and the US fagovernment to thank for the fact that you, a Mediterranean white are being classified with the mestizos. The culture of your ancestors, the Greeks, the Romans, the Italians, Sicilians, all of these beautiful people and beautiful cultures have been given to the Mongoloid-Asiatic race that is the mestizo. How many Roman establishments were there in the Americas again? These people have nothing to do with the real latinos (white people), yet multiculturalism and the fact that they speak Spanish has lead a few deviants in the government to decide that they do. PizzaNazi is not considered an Englishman as his name is most certainly English? Get a fucking grip and get off of this faggot shit man.

And yeah my screename doesn't represent anything either.

Dog
04-14-2009, 01:06 AM
Jesus, would a mod fucking moderate this thread. It's gotten completely off-topic with JFLC's trolling.

Yggdrasil
04-14-2009, 01:11 AM
Yggdrasil, you fucking idiot, yes you are white and the mestizos are non-white, you have anti-racism and the US fagovernment to thank for the fact that you, a Mediterranean white are being classified with the mestizos. The culture of your ancestors, the Greeks, the Romans, the Italians, Sicilians, all of these beautiful people and beautiful cultures have been given to the Mongoloid-Asiatic race that is the mestizo. How many Roman establishments were there in the Americas again? These people have nothing to do with the real latinos (white people), yet multiculturalism and the fact that they speak Spanish has lead a few deviants in the government to decide that they do. PizzaNazi is not considered an Englishman as his name is most certainly English? Get a fucking grip and get off of this faggot shit man.

And yeah my screename doesn't represent anything either.

Actually, most of my ancestry is French. Regardless of my ancestry, I don't see why I should be overtly prejudiced. Sure, I have my petty prejudices. Being brought up at the pinnacle of a social pyramid stratified by ancestry does that to one. However, it seems unjust for me to not give those of lower social standing the opportunity to better themselves in a society where one's place is determined by merit, not petty distinctions like race. Fundamentally, people like you fail to see this.

Struwwelpeter
04-14-2009, 01:17 AM
French are Latinos, Latin language, med culture, med race.

Uriah Heep
04-14-2009, 01:18 AM
First he lifted the ban on stem-cell research, he's been working to improve relations with Europeans (particularly Russians), and now he's trying to get unlimited travel to Cuba. Obama is the fucking man. :thumbsup:

I can't wait for the health-care and education reform to start taking place. I'm glad to see he wasn't bullshitting us and is making some real, progressive, positive changes. Now, if someone could get this country to stop shitting out criminals, we might not suck so much in comparison to Canada and Europe.

So there is decent americans out there!

I really hope your country does pick up their game though!

Azure
04-14-2009, 01:19 AM
So there is decent americans out there!

I really hope your country does pick up there game though!

lol

Struwwelpeter
04-14-2009, 01:21 AM
Damn someone's on a roll tonight.

Rust
04-14-2009, 01:25 AM
Jesus, would a mod fucking moderate this thread. It's gotten completely off-topic with JFLC's trolling.

I've seen it, but I don't think it's necessitates my intervention. Threads naturally change topic with the conversation and distinguishing the line between that is pretty difficult so I'd rather err in the side of caution and not "moderate" anyone or anything.

If you disagree, contact Zok or Fish. (And that's not a sarcastic "make my day" kind of comment. I am honestly suggesting you do. It would be good to get some feedback on where they think the line is.)

Ron_Smythberg
04-14-2009, 02:23 AM
I've seen it, but I don't think it's necessitates my intervention. Threads naturally change topic with the conversation and distinguishing the line between that is pretty difficult so I'd rather err in the side of caution and not "moderate" anyone or anything.

If you disagree, contact Zok or Fish. (And that's not a sarcastic "make my day" kind of comment. I am honestly suggesting you do. It would be good to get some feedback on where they think the line is.)

The line was crossed the minute Jim posted here. Honestly, this is what he does to every damn thread.


Oh and I think everyone knows Jim's scheme by now, can't we stop being so modest and TAKE SOME ACTION??

Snoopy
04-14-2009, 02:52 AM
The line was crossed the minute Jim posted here. Honestly, this is what he does to every damn thread.


Oh and I think everyone knows Jim's scheme by now, can't we stop being so modest and TAKE SOME ACTION??

The troll cannot be taken responsible for baiting idiots. Jim didn't derail this thread. Everyone who participated in the discussion derailed the thread, which is basically everyone in this shitty thread. Which tells us a thing or two about our interest in the original topic. If we let a thread get derailed by a troll this easily, then the original topic probably held no interest and sucked anyway.

Ron_Smythberg
04-14-2009, 04:11 AM
The troll cannot be taken responsible for baiting idiots. Jim didn't derail this thread. Everyone who participated in the discussion derailed the thread, which is basically everyone in this shitty thread. Which tells us a thing or two about our interest in the original topic. If we let a thread get derailed by a troll this easily, then the original topic probably held no interest and sucked anyway.

Yeah of course, it's because of our own stupidity... The whole world has to change in order to stop all of our damn threads from being hijacked by a racist troll..:facepalm:?

Let's get real. Honestly, when is anyone in the leadership going to get some guts and do something?

Cytosine
04-14-2009, 04:17 AM
Yeah of course, it's because of our own stupidity... The whole world has to change in order to stop all of our damn threads from being hijacked by a racist troll..:facepalm:?

Let's get real. Honestly, when is anyone in the leadership going to get some guts and do something?

The troll can only grow if it's fed. If you don't feed the troll, it will wither and die.

Banning JFLC won't work; he'll simply come back. If we ignore him, it isn't fun anymore. Just let him bitch.

Unless, of course, a mod was planning on doing something. Then by all means; banhammer the faggot.

Ron_Smythberg
04-14-2009, 04:22 AM
The troll can only grow if it's fed. If you don't feed the troll, it will wither and die.

Banning JFLC won't work; he'll simply come back. If we ignore him, it isn't fun anymore. Just let him bitch.

Unless, of course, a mod was planning on doing something. Then by all means; banhammer the faggot.

I am sick of hearing this defeatist filth. This :"oh.., we just have to put up with it until Jim gets bored, youll see we just have to get used to it" philosophical garbage.

We have put up with four months of this endless assault, let's defend ourselves like men for once.

Struwwelpeter
04-14-2009, 04:24 AM
Cytosine I have never attempted to negotiate my way out of a ban and I never really even care if I get banned anyway, I haven't posted on this site in a relatively long time, what makes you think I will come back if they ban me?

Ron_Smythberg
04-14-2009, 04:26 AM
Cytosine I have never attempted to negotiate my way out of a ban and I never really even care if I get banned anyway, I haven't posted on this site in a relatively long time, what makes you think I will come back if they ban me?

Well there's some positive news. Maybe he will finally give up and leave?

Phinehas
04-14-2009, 08:43 AM
Just shows that Obama's a communist.

Snoopy
04-14-2009, 02:01 PM
Yeah of course, it's because of our own stupidity... The whole world has to change in order to stop all of our damn threads from being hijacked by a racist troll..:facepalm:?

Let's get real. Honestly, when is anyone in the leadership going to get some guts and do something?

You're a fucking douchebag you fascist piece of jew shit.

Dog
04-14-2009, 03:43 PM
Some of the news sources suggest that this is only for Cubans living in America. What about other American citizens?

Butcher
04-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Some of the news sources suggest that this is only for Cubans living in America. What about other American citizens?

I guess they still have to keep some level of commie-phobia.

KillSwitch_J
04-14-2009, 04:02 PM
Some of the news sources suggest that this is only for Cubans living in America. What about other American citizens?

Something tells me that if it were only for cuban americans, then there's going to be a backlash from other americans that would like to travel there.

Dog
04-14-2009, 04:34 PM
Something tells me that if it were only for cuban americans, then there's going to be a backlash from other americans that would like to travel there.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It seems like it'd be unconstitutional or something.

Ron_Smythberg
04-14-2009, 06:30 PM
You're a fucking douchebag you fascist piece of jew shit.

Haha, oh yeah I am one big fascist :rolleyes:.

Snoopy
04-14-2009, 07:27 PM
Haha, oh yeah I am one big fascist :rolleyes:.

Shut the fuck up you nazi cocksucker.

lostmyface
04-14-2009, 07:36 PM
i am also a fan of lifting restrictions on cuba. it has long been a black eye on american relations with latin america, and much of the third world.

go obama administration!

Space Monkey
04-19-2009, 05:10 PM
Yay! Unlimited travel to Cuba! A third world shithole, humid tropical environment, no toilet paper, little running water, free marxist education, a non-white majority, bananas and refried beans. Every non-white's wet dream.

You're a fucking idiot.

Cuba is great if you're a tourist( a bit less if you're a local), they have good tourist infrastructure, I went there a few years ago, it's really nice and cheap plus the people are very friendly and welcoming.