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M. Samuel Chevalier
01-20-2009, 03:03 PM
When I purchase, should I go for the extract or the leaf? I'm on a site saying I can get an oz. of the leaf form for $4.45, or extracts for a higher price (ex: 15X extract for $6.99/gram)
Whichever you recommend, how much of it should I purchase? Once I purchase it, how should consume it? ...from what I've read it seems like using a high-temp lighter with a bong works well...what about just a normal lighter? what about with a bowl (spoon)?
For a first time salvia user (actually first time hallucinogen user) should I go for 15X, or would it be better to start with 5X or 10X?
Any help is much appreciated.
vilbe
01-20-2009, 06:17 PM
i'd suggest you tripping on something else before salvia...
that being said its rather quick. theres a reason the extracts cost more, you get what you pay for.
M. Samuel Chevalier
01-20-2009, 06:25 PM
i'd suggest you tripping on something else before salvia...
that being said its rather quick. theres a reason the extracts cost more, you get what you pay for.
what do you recommend, shrooms?
Death Snuggle
01-20-2009, 06:33 PM
Go for the highest extract you can get, if you think you can handle it. If you want to feel what it can be, you should go for x30 or x20. Just remember to smoke it correctly.
M. Samuel Chevalier
01-20-2009, 06:35 PM
Go for the highest extract you can get, if you think you can handle it. If you want to feel what it can be, you should go for x30 or x20. Just remember to smoke it correctly.
how so? Biggest rip, don't let out til it starts to hit me?
Death Snuggle
01-20-2009, 06:53 PM
You should get a torch lighter for best effects. You have to hold it lit on the material for the entire hit. It should be the biggest hit you can possibly take and still hold it in for an extended period of time. Also, a water pipe works best.
Tick Tock
01-20-2009, 07:03 PM
how so? Biggest rip, don't let out til it starts to hit me?
Try to hold each of your hits for about 30 seconds. You will definitely know when it hits you, I didn't even take the last hit that was resting in my bong. Use a torch lighter, if you can't get a torch use a utility lighter (like the kind with a handle that you light grills with.) Use a bong if at all possible, if not, you can try a pipe.
Now, salvia affects people differently, so the advice on what type of Salvia to buy is a bit more complicated. I plunged into hell off some 5x, that's just how it affects me, I should have got leaf. However, you might be different, and the sad part is, you'll never know how salvia affects you until you try it. That being said, you could theoretically order any strength extract you wanted, because none of them should cause you any physical harm, but this is not recommended. When using any drug, it's better to start small and be disappointed than to do too much and be overwhelmed.
Sooo....the most cautious approach would be to try plain leaf first, then move up to 5x, then 10x, and so on. Don't buy too many different extracts though, because this isn't a drug you're going to be using daily.
Some people find it difficult to break through with just leaf, so ordering some 5x along with the leaf would be a reasonably good idea. As stated before, try the leaf first, move up to 5x if you want, and if you decide you want to go higher than that, either order additional extracts or make your own with the rest of the leaf you ordered.
Cliche Guevara
01-20-2009, 07:19 PM
do not be decieved, salvia is very fucking potent and fucked up. ppl seem to think because its legal its a weak drug.
Death Snuggle
01-20-2009, 07:41 PM
do not be decieved, salvia is very fucking potent and fucked up. ppl seem to think because its legal its a weak drug.
Try some x20 on a 2nd plateau DXM trip and then will know crazy. Anymore in strength of either is unbearable for myself.
Vizier
01-20-2009, 08:23 PM
First time I tried it it was x20. For some reason the first hit only had mild effects, but I tried it again inhaling as much smoke as I could and I quickly began tripping, although not as hard as I wished. Everything was 2-D, funny and wonderful looking, but I was still somewhat conscient of my surroundings. After the effect wore out, I was relaxed and content.
Next time I tried x40 extract. I single, well done hit from a pipe send me into the most wonderful trip and dream of my life. I loved the experience. I felt like a child dreaming.
On the other hand, my friend who tried x40 tripped balls in hell.
It depends on the person and tolerance, I guess. It's not like you build up tolerance to it, either, nor is it addictive or has side effects other than too much smoke in your lungs.
Before you try it, relax and simply let go. It's a fast, brutal trip that feels like a dream.
It's awesome when the effect starts kicking in and you feel being pulled in random directions and suddenly reality changes completely. Like on the highest part of a rollercoaster when it seems to stop for second and then it goes rushing down.
Happy tripping.
BadShovelhead
01-20-2009, 08:29 PM
def. use a torch lighter and glass pipe for salvia if you want the full effects. you need high temps and fast burning.
Mogli
01-22-2009, 09:05 PM
Trying salvia before ever smoking weed sounds like a BAD idea. Smoke weed a few times over a few weeks first to get used to the new drug world.
Other than that, as everyone said, use a bong and a torch lighter. Salvia needs to be really hot to be smoked effectively, butane lighters are better than your dollar Bics. The smoke is gonna be really hot though, which is why using a bong is recommended, to cool the smoke.
M. Samuel Chevalier
01-22-2009, 11:01 PM
lol i've smoked weed, i didnt know it was considered a hallucinogen.
citronella
01-23-2009, 12:12 AM
don't bother using a pipe, you won't get the best effects. like everyone said, bong + torch work best and you need a big hit, or a couple. everyone's tolerance is different though. the first time i tried it, i took three big hits of 40x from a bong and was tripping very very hard. it's more dissociative though with that much and not all that enjoyable, just weird and intense as fucking anything. i imagined a steam roller going over my tongue and thought i was sitting the middle of a race car track.
crizzlE
01-23-2009, 07:27 PM
can you extract the psychoactive properties from dried up salvia leaves and make, say 20x by some home process?
Azure
01-23-2009, 07:29 PM
Where the fuck can you get an ounce of leaves for $5?
Cliche Guevara
01-23-2009, 07:34 PM
hit it from a bong and you should but don't have to use a jet lighter.
i hated salvia though, your brain and body literally disconnect for 10 minutes, and you left feeling so dirty afterwords.
also, you go catatonic, and its halarious to see someone start drooling all over the place.
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