Epidemic of Black on White Prison Rapes

[Anders Hoveland]

85% of prison rapes in the USA are comitted by Black men, despite black men only constituting 41% of the prison population.

Most prison rapes in the USA are comitted by black men on white men.
The phenomena of blacks exclusively raping whites has been substantially documented since the 1960s. Both quantitative and qualitative data show that blacks exclusively raping whites has been constant. sources: Davis 1968; Jones 1976; Nacci 1978; Nacci and Kane 1984; Bowker 1980; Lookwood 1980; Starchild 1990

For every year in an American prison, a prisoner on average has a 6% chance of being raped. If someone is in prison for 15 years, probability is not in their favor.


Rape and Racism: Black Rapists, White Victims

A special complicating problem for American prisons is that they are racially integrated institutions (Buffum 1982, p. 104). The oppressive characteristics of race relations in the society as a whole penetrates the relationships between whites and blacks inside prisons (Buffum 1982, p. 104). Scacco (1982, p. 91) argues that the issue of racism predominates as a central point in sexual victimisation within correctional institutions. It has even been cited as being the single most important socio-demographic characteristic associated with victimisation. These statistics may be due to the over-representation of minorities in prisons. However, rapes are not randomly distributed within the prison population, especially with respect to race (Bowker 1980, p.7).

In American prisons, studies by sociologists suggest that more than 90% of rapes are inter-racial and may be motivated more by a need for sexual dominance over another race than by sexual passions (Starchild 1990, p. 145). Many rapes are by blacks on whites, suggesting that it gives the lower-class black, who has felt trod upon all his life, his one chance to dominate a white person (Starchild 1990, p. 145). Consequently, the victims are almost always young white prisoners. (Scacco 1982, p. 91) has also noted a disproportionate number of black aggressors and white victims in studies of sexual assaults in jails and prisons. Even if the minority of prisoners are black, the minority of victims are white (Scacco 1982, p. 91). When 'targets' were asked to identify their aggressors at the time of their rape, most were black (80%), some were Hispanic (14%), and a few were white (6%). (Lookwood 1980, p. 28 ) At the Tennessee State Penitentiary, when asked about the races of the aggressors and victims in rape incidents, nearly all whites agreed that the aggressors were black and the victims were white (Bowker 1980, p. 8 ). However, Bowker did note that most black respondents claimed that both blacks and whites raped whites frequently, and there were occasions when blacks raped blacks. As discussed, it is unusual for either black or Chicano youngsters to be 'turned out'. The blacks and Mexicans-Americans tend to look out for their own and will not turn out one of their own race (Wooden and Parker 1982, p.106).


"I'm a 36 year old white male. heterosexual. raped by black inmates in
1978, still have nightmares and afraid of one day my mind snapping. The
Texas prison system lacks in professional counselors to talk to and the
psychologist either dont want to talk or want you to take drugs.
After the incident I asked to be put in PC and they refused so I wrote the
FBI, who came to see me but not before I was taken into a room with the
"warden" and threatened if I didn't tell the Feds to forget the whole thing
my life would be made real uncomfortable there. So I blew it off...and I
stabbed one of the black M.F.'s that raped me about 6 times with a pair
of 6" scissors. I wasn't caught and I don't know if he died or what.... I
don't need the added pressures of being labeled a punk."
— M., from Beaumont, Texas



Prisons are already segregated by gender; Perhaps the prisons should also be racially segregated.

The plain truth is that racially segregated prisons would drastically reduce prison rapes, and prevent the spread of AIDS, both within the prison, and to the outside world. Prisons are one of the primary breeding grounds for AIDS, not least of which because rape and anal intercourse carry a much higher probabibility of sexual transmission (both rapes and anal intercourse are much "rougher", leading to microtearing of skin. even when a condom is used, chances of transmission of disease are still higher)

There is also a very high HIV infection rate in the black community. Of the 1 million people living with HIV in the USA, almost half are Black. In the USA, the estimated lifetime risk of becoming infected with HIV is 1 in 16 for Black males, and 60% of the women diagnosed with AIDS are Black, despite blacks only composing 13% of the population. Among African American males in the the prison population, HIV infection is rampant. In the state of Georgia, for example, 86% of the prisoners who tested positive for HIV were black.

But the "progressives" refuse to look at the facts. Their ideology of racial integration must override any and all problems that such policies may cause. If there is a serious problem in America's prisons, there needs to be a serious solution. Multiracialist politicians and media are ignoring and refusing to discuss the issue.

I think most prisoners would prefer to be amongst their own kind (racially), if given the option. There is obviously much race-based violence happening in prisons. Segregation could dramatically reduce violence. Putting prisoners in a situation where they have such a high chance of being infected with HIV against their will is inhumane. Racial segregation would thus give prisoners more rights than racial integration.

MEN GET RAPED ALSO - BRUTAL - VERY GRAPHIC - I MADE THIS FOR YOUR SONS - YouTube
RACE WAR in Prison - YouTube

[The Pat-Man]

this is why so many bros get locked up and come out looking like nazis, joining AB is the only real protection in there usually.

[Struwwelpeter]

Anders Hoveland,

Please leave this website. Your posts are not appreciated by anyone. They only serve to propagate a dialogue that is rooted in bullshit, and they are littered with lies and falsehoods of the most contemptible sort.

Black on White prison rape is not an epidemic. Prison rape of any kind is not an epidemic. A majority of people who push the "prison rape" issue are people who have never been to prison in their lives. Now, I have never been to prison as an inmate before, but I am intimately connected with someone who operates a private prison, and I am knowledgeable enough to tell you that prison rape is not an epidemic and that it rarely occurs and almost never in a forcible fashion.

Most prison rapes, like rapes on the outside, are reported because the "victim" is looking to become the benefactor of some sort of privilege. On the outside a false-rape "victim" is usually looking to punish her alleged "rapist" by tarnishing his reputation for life. In prison, most false-rape "victims" are looking to get transferred to some other part of the prison where they can a.) establish new contacts within the prison complex, b.) gain access to materials or information located in a specific area of the prison or c.) just to get away from their old clique. But they have never been raped. Of course, standard procedure is to take every claim about rape seriously. But it is almost always obvious that the "victims" are lying.

Almost never is an inmate forcibly raped in prison. Usually, in the cases of prison "rape" in which sexual contact actually did take place it was wholly consensual. It is only considered "rape" by the ever-expanding definition of what constitutes rape in our society. Some people have half-jokingly suggested that merely looking someone in the eye in the future will be considered "visual rape." Remember that all instances of sexual contact between inmates (whether both parties agree that it is consensual or not) is a violation of law.

Most of the sexual activity that goes on in prison (and in juvenile detention facilities) is between staff and inmates. Most of the staff who engage in this contact are WHITE and their victims are often minorities.

The concept of prison as a place full of rapists is a propaganda tool used to brainwash people in to being terrified of committing crimes. It is not a racist place, it is not RapeTown, it is not particularly dangerous. Most people who go to prison come out without ever having been in a physical altercation with anyone and without having contracted any diseases (sexually transmitted or otherwise).

Please leave this website. You are not wanted here.

[Wolf]

It seems like a cultural issue.

In rest of the world:
A guy butt-fucking another guy = faggot.

In USA:
A guy butt-fucking another guy = alpha male. :facepalm:

[The Pat-Man]

i was in state for a grand total of a month and was involved in three non sexual altercations with black people. the rape thing is blown out of proportion, the racial violence is not.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

The negro male is largely bisexual in comparison to males of other races. If you are a white male you and your girlfriend are attacked by a group of black men, odds are both you and your wife will be raped.

[Tachosomoza]

i was in state for a grand total of a month and was involved in three non sexual altercations with black people. the rape thing is blown out of proportion, the racial violence is not.

This. Correctional facilities are some of the most polarized and reactionary institutions in the world. They want it that way, a divided population is too busy stabbing each other over the color of their skin or drug turf to unify and turn on the big guys. They don't want Attica style shit.

[Sir Cornwell]

I wonder about the dynamics of rape Down Under? No doubt we'll hear from Aussies denying that it ever happens.

Preventing Prisoner Rape Project



The Preventing Prisoner Rape Project is a national project here in Australia aiming to:

raise awareness about the issue of rape in prisons,

reach out and support prison rape survivors,

support those workers both inside and outside prisons who are trying to deal with this issue of sexual violence in detention, and

bring about appropriate law reform and changes to prison administration in order to prevent prisoner rape.

While our key area of concern relates to men's and women's prisons, we are also concerned about sexual violence in juvenile justice centres, secure mental health facilities, and immigration detention centres.

[Struwwelpeter]

All over the internet I come across people who claim to have been in physical altercations with racial minorities.

I grew up around racial minorities, and I was never involved in a physical altercation with any of them. The only people I was ever involved in physical altercations with were White males.

Why is it that so many people on the internet claim to have been attacked by racial minorities? I often wonder if these people are just lying through their teeth. For many days now I've talked about the big lie concept in which a lie is repeated over and over again until people begin to believe that it is true simply because it is popular. We see this all throughout history where great leaders convince entire populations that they have been victimized by people who they had previously never been felt victimized by. Are they simply delusional?

I am often flabbergasted by the sheer number of people who claim to have been in physical altercations with anyone regardless of race (on the internet). It seems that everyone on the internet has been in fights all their lives before.

I am not sure if these people are telling the truth, stretching the truth or telling outright lies.

This brings me to another topic that I've been thinking about recently... You know, there was a quote by a fellow named Theodore Bundy and I don't really remember exactly what it was, but it was something along the lines of "do some people send messages based on their facial characteristics that invite others to harm them?"

That's a very relevant quote because I have looked at the faces of many people who identify with racialist movements (regardless of race) and they all seem to share a common trait... You see, a lot of the people who are in the White Nationalist movement are just flat out not white. They do not look like Caucasoids. They have features like Negroids and Mongoloids. Flat faces, short face length, high cranium, short noses, bulbous foreheads, receding chins/jaws, protrusion of the upper part of the face, big lips, mongoloid eyes, etc. Many of them look like they could have non-Caucasoid admixture but even those who DON'T share these characteristics...

These features could be described as "REDUCED." They are shared among populations that are domesticated. I'm going to show you want I'm talking about... Look at these Russians:

https://streetknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/skinheads.jpg

Those kids don't look White to me at all. They share more characteristics with Negroids and Mongoloids. That's probably why they tend to the same behaviors as them; you know, political protest, demanding "social justice," high population density, low individuality, etc...

Here, we have another from Sweden... This is an anti-racist Skinhead.
http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/99/de1e1ff11e44af808c338e049a704845/l.jpg

Same thing... Looks very "Negroid-ish" to me.

These people differ from true Caucasoids. A true Caucasoid is someone with a low head, a big occiput ridge and large, high rooted nose. He has little facial prognathism. He is more aggressive, uncooperative, disagreeable, violent and individualistic. That's their evolutionary behavior. This is rooted in their having evolved in the dog-eat-dog environment of western Asia.

This is what real White people look like...

http://i40.tinypic.com/f2o5ra.jpg

http://thumbs.globalinn.tv/1783c8b2876b14318fa78db7acca04ba2b611007/acb0ed89f506063c6a35a9e87be3e35d_1.jpg

http://www.game-of-thrones.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sean-bean.jpg

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4828&stc=1&d=1274911840

So yeah... Maybe so many people here feel animosity directed towards them by Blacks because they themselves are Blacks... Like Mr. Happy, for example. He's a good example of a White nigra. If you feel animosity directed towards you by Blacks it probably means that they feel that you are part of the tribe... Ya nawm sayin? Maybe some of ya'll just got really unlucky-like, but if you aren't trolling and you really do feel this way, well... Let's face it... You're a fucking nigger, no ifs, ands or buts. Not that there is anything wrong with being an Equal African-American Human Being™. Just stop it with the absurd and nonsensical racism.

[The Pat-Man]

tldr, i bet theres like three "admixtures" in that post.

[Ed Lister]

Anders Hoveland,

Please leave this website. Your posts are not appreciated by anyone. They only serve to propagate a dialogue that is rooted in bullshit, and they are littered with lies and falsehoods of the most contemptible sort.

Black on White prison rape is not an epidemic. Prison rape of any kind is not an epidemic. A majority of people who push the "prison rape" issue are people who have never been to prison in their lives. Now, I have never been to prison as an inmate before, but I am intimately connected with someone who operates a private prison, and I am knowledgeable enough to tell you that prison rape is not an epidemic and that it rarely occurs and almost never in a forcible fashion.

Most prison rapes, like rapes on the outside, are reported because the "victim" is looking to become the benefactor of some sort of privilege. On the outside a false-rape "victim" is usually looking to punish her alleged "rapist" by tarnishing his reputation for life. In prison, most false-rape "victims" are looking to get transferred to some other part of the prison where they can a.) establish new contacts within the prison complex, b.) gain access to materials or information located in a specific area of the prison or c.) just to get away from their old clique. But they have never been raped. Of course, standard procedure is to take every claim about rape seriously. But it is almost always obvious that the "victims" are lying.

Almost never is an inmate forcibly raped in prison. Usually, in the cases of prison "rape" in which sexual contact actually did take place it was wholly consensual. It is only considered "rape" by the ever-expanding definition of what constitutes rape in our society. Some people have half-jokingly suggested that merely looking someone in the eye in the future will be considered "visual rape." Remember that all instances of sexual contact between inmates (whether both parties agree that it is consensual or not) is a violation of law.

Most of the sexual activity that goes on in prison (and in juvenile detention facilities) is between staff and inmates. Most of the staff who engage in this contact are WHITE and their victims are often minorities.

The concept of prison as a place full of rapists is a propaganda tool used to brainwash people in to being terrified of committing crimes. It is not a racist place, it is not RapeTown, it is not particularly dangerous. Most people who go to prison come out without ever having been in a physical altercation with anyone and without having contracted any diseases (sexually transmitted or otherwise).

Please leave this website. You are not wanted here.

I like how Hoveland has a referenced post full of facts and figures and you have an uncited rant. Cool story bro :picard:

Also, look up the definition of 'epidemic' sometime, it really has nothing to do with majorities.

[Struwwelpeter]

I wonder about the dynamics of rape Down Under? No doubt we'll hear from Aussies denying that it ever happens.

Australia is one country I would expect to have a very high rate of prison rape regardless of what the reports say.

Australia has high numbers of Whites and Australoids. The most savage races of sapiens - if they can even be considered sapien.

The Whites who live there are composed primarily of Keltic British Islanders... They look like this:

http://i41.tinypic.com/ftlums.jpg

Basically some of the purest Caucasoids there are, right up there with Afghans and Iranians. The archetype of extreme "paranoia", violence and "sexism..."

Part of the Australoid's evolutionary strategy for thousands of years was gendercide. They did and still do a lot of raping, too. Real rape, I mean. Not the fake rape where you have sex and change your mind about it.

[Ed Lister]

Part of the Australoid's evolutionary strategy for thousands of years was gendercide. They did and still do a lot of raping, too. Real rape, I mean. Not the fake rape where you have sex and change your mind about it.

Yeah, compared to who?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

[Struwwelpeter]

What does that link have to do with the block of text that you quoted?

[Ed Lister]

What does that link have to do with the block of text that you quoted?

OH so when you were talking about Australians and Rape and how they do a lot of raping and blah blah blah you actually weren't talking about Australians and Rape?

My bad.

[Struwwelpeter]

OH so when you were talking about Australians and Rape and how they do a lot of raping and blah blah blah you actually weren't talking about Australians and Rape?

My bad.

The block of text that you quoted concerns the Australoid race; not Australian nationals (Australoids being one demographic within the Australian population). Seems to me like you just glanced over my post and your Simian mind saw "Australians Rape, blah blah blah" (as you so eruditely put it) and went out and jumped for a "source" that would disprove a point that I never made.

See the following...

I like how Hoveland has a referenced post full of facts and figures and you have an uncited rant. Cool story bro

Maybe if you weren't so obsessed over your precious piece of shit "facts" and "figures" you could make a rational assessment of my post and an appropriate reply. Instead, you just got psyched up and jumped to conclusions thinking that posting some horseshit source that refutes a claim I didn't even make would win you some self-confidence. It didn't. You failed. Now give me your residential address before I take it by force. My cameraman and I are going to give you a very firm talking down to.

[Anders Hoveland]

I grew up around racial minorities, and I was never involved in a physical altercation with any of them. Why is it that so many people on the internet claim to have been attacked by racial minorities? I often wonder if these people are just lying through their teeth. ...convince entire populations that they have been victimized by people who they had previously never been felt victimized by. I am often flabbergasted by the sheer number of people who claim to have been in physical altercations with anyone regardless of race (on the internet). It seems that everyone on the internet has been in fights all their lives before.


There could be some truth to this. I do not have the experience of having grown up in or near a minority neighbourhood. But I have heard so many unbelievable stories— not just from whites. Several people in online forums have claimed that middle class whites can never know what it is really like in the world outside their insulated middle class (mostly white) communities. And I have actually talked to people that live in Hispanic communities in the USA, who tell me that anything that is not locked up or bolted down will inevitably be stolen. I have heard some absolutely unbelievable and funny stories about this. That they actually dig up flowers and bushes in front yards and cart them away. Someone bought a rusty old grill at a used store and put it in their back yard, behind a tall locked fence. The grill was still stolen, and the thief even had the disrespect to dump the ashes all over the ground, despite the fact that a big trash bin was right next to the grill. It must have been a struggle to climb back over the fence carrying the grill!

Then I have heard about all the muslim (middle eastern) rapes of Scandinavian women. I have never actually personally experienced this. Although my mother was raped by an arab when she was younger. And there was a women from my church spoke about how she was raped, and I remember her mentioning that the rapist was African. I do not know, I suppose it could be possible that people might be more likely to speak about being raped if the rapist was from a different race.

Perhaps some whites or asians who live in either black or hispanic communities in the USA can share their experiences?

I am not sure. I hear all these dreadful stories, but for the most part have never actually seen or experienced this. But I have a feeling that the few minorities in my city are not representative of the ones in the bad neighborhoods.

There definitely do seem to be ethnic or cultural differences, however. The muslims mostly seem to be irresponsible, impatient, and quick to anger. Even the ones that have been born here, and already "fully adapted" to society. We are told there are sociological reasons for this, and simple cultural differences, but I often suspect there could be genetic differences in behavioral propensities. Much like different breeds of dogs.

[Dichromate]

Australia is one country I would expect to have a very high rate of prison rape regardless of what the reports say.

Australia has high numbers of Whites and Australoids. The most savage races of sapiens - if they can even be considered sapien.

The Whites who live there are composed primarily of Keltic British Islanders... They look like this:

http://i41.tinypic.com/ftlums.jpg

Basically some of the purest Caucasoids there are, right up there with Afghans and Iranians. The archetype of extreme "paranoia", violence and "sexism..."

Part of the Australoid's evolutionary strategy for thousands of years was gendercide. They did and still do a lot of raping, too. Real rape, I mean. Not the fake rape where you have sex and change your mind about it.

Yeah but there's half a million Abbos Australia-wide, and that's including some "I'm 1/16th Koori and identify as an indigenous Australian" sort of people.
They only state/territory that they're a significant minority in is the NT, at around a third, and there are areas of WA and Queensland where they'd be local majorities. But beyond that the only exceptions are pretty small places eg: Wilcania NSW, about 750 people is a little over half Aboriginal - probably the most aboriginal town in NSW, and it's out in the middle of nowhere.

Out of 2.3% or so of the population, they make up around 14% of the prison population nation wide - 43% or so in WA and 84% in the NT - so unless you're in the Northern Territory (which has 230,000 or so people all up) or kinda WA, abbos are a pretty small minority in the prison system despite being over-represented.
So with what are generally such small numbers I doubt they'd be a major contributor to prison rape - it might be something interesting to look at in the NT and WA, but at that point you're talking about maybe 12% of the country as far as population is concerned.

[is all mememememe with me]

the high HIV transmission rates are largely due to the lack of clean injecting equipment amongst prisoners. this usually results in a whole prison wing sharing the same needle around the whole block. not surprising that HIV and hep is rife, considering this fact.

[Dichromate]

There could be some truth to this. I do not have the experience of having grown up in or near a minority neighbourhood. But I have heard so many unbelievable stories— not just from whites. Several people in online forums have claimed that middle class whites can never know what it is really like in the world outside their insulated middle class (mostly white) communities. And I have actually talked to people that live in Hispanic communities in the USA, who tell me that anything that is not locked up or bolted down will inevitably be stolen. I have heard some absolutely unbelievable and funny stories about this. That they actually dig up flowers and bushes in front yards and cart them away. Someone bought a rusty old grill at a used store and put it in their back yard, behind a tall locked fence. The grill was still stolen, and the thief even had the disrespect to dump the ashes all over the ground, despite the fact that a big trash bin was right next to the grill. It must have been a struggle to climb back over the fence carrying the grill!

Then I have heard about all the muslim (middle eastern) rapes of Scandinavian women. I have never actually personally experienced this. Although my mother was raped by an arab when she was younger. And there was a women from my church spoke about how she was raped, and I remember her mentioning that the rapist was African. I do not know, I suppose it could be possible that people might be more likely to speak about being raped if the rapist was from a different race.

Perhaps some whites or asians who live in either black or hispanic communities in the USA can share their experiences?

I am not sure. I hear all these dreadful stories, but for the most part have never actually seen or experienced this. But I have a feeling that the few minorities in my city are not representative of the ones in the bad neighborhoods.

There definitely do seem to be ethnic or cultural differences, however. The muslims mostly seem to be irresponsible, impatient, and quick to anger. Even the ones that have been born here, and already "fully adapted" to society. We are told there are sociological reasons for this, and simple cultural differences, but I often suspect there could be genetic differences in behavioral propensities. Much like different breeds of dogs.

It's probably worth remembering that those with bad experiences are the ones who are coming forward to begin with - they're self-selecting.
Few people are going to come onto a forum and say "I just walked to the shops and back and the trip was uneventful, furthermore I walk my dog every day and I've never been mugged. PS: I live in a neighborhood with a lot of African Americans.".

[Wolf]

...I'm going to show you want I'm talking about... Look at these Russians:

https://streetknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/skinheads.jpg...

The moment I saw that pic, I thought "those look like some Russians do" (we have a Russian minority here). Then I noticed you mentioning that they are Russians above.

A lot of Russians (like the ones living in St. Petersburg area) are decent whites, who look white and act white.
But then there are a lot of those mixed with the Mongols/Tatars/Khazars, who want to be Slavs, but are obviously different. Because of this identity crisis, they try hard to be white and even become skinheads.

So yeah, I think it sucks how Russians give the rest of the slavs a bad name and I'm not even slavic.

[Anders Hoveland]

Can we focus this thread back to the subject of prison rapes?

[is all mememememe with me]

jesus fuck christ, JFLCs come back with a vengeance, lol. this was well worth him going away for a while i think. :)

[Anders Hoveland]

Just to add: the behavior of black males in the prison population is not necessarily reflective of black people as a whole.
We all know that certain types of people are more likely to end up in prison.

[Sir Cornwell]

I remember reading Solzhenitsyn and he wrote of gulag prisoners and how there was the typical hetero-male attitude towards man-love. How tops were respected as men whereas bottoms were disrepected and treated as nobodies/woman.

[Sir Cornwell]

Just to add: the behavior of black males in the prison population is not necessarily reflective of black people as a whole.
We all know that certain types of people are more likely to end up in prison.

I've only seen news reports of one study, but it claimed that prisoners were mostly represented by three astrological signs. Hah! I'd have to see multiple studies to believe that.

Lots of FAS people end up in prison.

[Wolf]

I remember reading Solzhenitsyn and he wrote of gulag prisoners and how there was the typical hetero-male attitude towards man-love. How tops were respected as men whereas bottoms were disrepected and treated as nobodies/woman.

lol @ "typical hetero-male attitude"

You're a closet fag looking for justification to do "man-love", aren't you?

[Struwwelpeter]

There could be some truth to this. I do not have the experience of having grown up in or near a minority neighbourhood. But I have heard so many unbelievable stories— not just from whites. Several people in online forums have claimed that middle class whites can never know what it is really like in the world outside their insulated middle class (mostly white) communities.

This would be fitting because the poorer segments of the Caucasoid race tend to be the reduced people who embody all of the characteristics I described earlier (flat faced, round headed, more Negroid or Mongoloid looking). So they are poor because they are like Negroids (infantilized) and that's why they live around them. Again, I'm really thinking that it's a tribe thang, ya nawm sayin? Niggaz was mo like family an shiet...

There definitely do seem to be ethnic or cultural differences, however. The muslims mostly seem to be irresponsible, impatient, and quick to anger. Even the ones that have been born here, and already "fully adapted" to society. We are told there are sociological reasons for this, and simple cultural differences, but I often suspect there could be genetic differences in behavioral propensities. Much like different breeds of dogs.

Again, this would seem to fit with Muslims having higher numbers of pure Caucasoids rather than the more reduced people who live in America. American whites are more similar to Negroids and Mongoloids than true Caucasoids, regardless of class.

Caucasoid: quick to anger, "irresponsible," highly impatient, violent

Non-Caucasoid: cruising through life, easy breezy, playful, excitable, domesticated

See bro I'm thinking you're like... Not White...

[Struwwelpeter]

Yeah but there's half a million Abbos Australia-wide, and that's including some "I'm 1/16th Koori and identify as an indigenous Australian" sort of people.
They only state/territory that they're a significant minority in is the NT, at around a third, and there are areas of WA and Queensland where they'd be local majorities. But beyond that the only exceptions are pretty small places eg: Wilcania NSW, about 750 people is a little over half Aboriginal - probably the most aboriginal town in NSW, and it's out in the middle of nowhere.

Out of 2.3% or so of the population, they make up around 14% of the prison population nation wide - 43% or so in WA and 84% in the NT - so unless you're in the Northern Territory (which has 230,000 or so people all up) or kinda WA, abbos are a pretty small minority in the prison system despite being over-represented.
So with what are generally such small numbers I doubt they'd be a major contributor to prison rape - it might be something interesting to look at in the NT and WA, but at that point you're talking about maybe 12% of the country as far as population is concerned.

They make up 25% of the prison population in Australia...

That's a little over double their demographic percentage. Fairly high, but as you point out they live in mostly rural areas where there is ineffective policing and so the percentage would be even higher if they got caught. Of course this has nothing to do with prison rape, I'm just saying that the number of Australoids in prison would be higher if they got caught.

[Anders Hoveland]

This would be fitting because the poorer segments of the Caucasoid race tend to be [racially inferior]. So they are poor because they are like Negroids (infantilized) and that's why they live around them.

There could likely be truth to this.
The more "racially inferior" (or genetically less endowed) whites would likely be more likely to live in the lower income non-white neighborhoods, and face more job competition with minorities in the lower level jobs. So naturally we might expect there to be some correlation between genetic inferiority and racism. This certainly seems to be the case in the American South (Georgia). I have been to this region and have to say that the people —both white and black— looked inbred to me. I found it more than a little ironic how the people touting racial superiority more than any other group of people have the least to brag about.

[BITCH TITZ]

Prison Men talk about being RAPED - YouTube

[is all mememememe with me]

There could likely be truth to this.
The more "racially inferior" (or genetically less endowed) whites would likely be more likely to live in the lower income non-white neighborhoods, and face more job competition with minorities in the lower level jobs. So naturally we might expect there to be some correlation between genetic inferiority and racism. This certainly seems to be the case in the American South (Georgia). I have been to this region and have to say that the people —both white and black— looked inbred to me. I found it more than a little ironic how the people touting racial superiority more than any other group of people have the least to brag about.

you do get that he's saying that's you don't ya?? ..just checking, you know with your lesser intelligence and all that.

[Dichromate]

They make up 25% of the prison population in Australia...

That's a little over double their demographic percentage.

Abbos do not make up 12.5% of the Australian population. They make up 2.3%.
I'd just picked up the 14% off google, but it's from the big deaths in custody report from the early 90s - and yeah, 2008 figure was 24%.
Although there's apparently statistical argy bargy - ie: they're asking them if they're indigenous, so the rate of incarceration hasn't necessarily doubled in 20 years - just as likely they're more likely to openly say they're aboriginal now.

But anyway, 24% or 25% is more than 10 times their demographic percentage, not double.

[Struwwelpeter]

No, your other figure that Abos make up only 2.3% of the population was wrong as well. They make up +12%. Sorry bro, but like most Australians and a lot of left-wing Europeans you seem to have a tendency to collect a bunch of shitty statistics. 99.9% of the information you get is wrong.

[Dichromate]

Let me tell you about your country...

Provide a single source that supports your bullshit assertion that abbos make up 12% of the population.
Because my source is the 2006 census - not a survey, not a poll, the national census.
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/DetailsPage/4705.02006?OpenDocument
Oh but it's okay, I'm sure it's a left wing euro-hippy conspiracy too.
(the number for 2006 was 2.5%, 2.3% is a more recent estimate but obviously not as certain as a census. The 2011 census data doesn't come out till June but it's not going to have changed significantly)


But go on and keep arguing that it's 12% like the recalcitrant moron that you are - go on and provide a source. Obviously you have some amazing source of information not otherwise available to us folks down in the antipodes so come on, lets see it.

[Struwwelpeter]

You clearly have a very strong emotional attachment to the 2006 Australian national census. My "source" (again, what a fanatic you are about your precious piece of shit "sources," "facts" and "data") for the fact that indigenous Australians make up 12.5% of the Australian population is the 2006 national census itself along with the widely known fact that indigenous Australians have always had a presence on the landmass totaling in at about 1,000,000 for thousands of years.

Your disgraceful ancestors, the exiles that they were, did not even bother to collect census data on indigenous Australians until very recently. To assert that the indigenous population of Australia is approximately 500,000 is to say that it declined by 500,000 during the period from the late 1800s to the present time. That would fly in the face of the fact that every demographic group that was contacted by humanity during the later stages of the industrial revolution showed marked increases in population size, not dramatic decreases.

Look at the ancestral data collected as a part of the census in 2006. Only 0.58% of the respondents identified as indigenous Australians. Over 30% chose the vague "Australian" category which is demographically impossible if we are to calculate the number of Anglo/Celtic, Italian and other major ethnic groups and add everything together. A vast majority of the indigenous Australians are choosing to identify under the far-reaching "Australian" demographic either out of carelessness or illiteracy or because they really believe that they are "true Australians."

And the number of indigenous Australians partaking in the census itself is far lower the actual number of those living in the country itself. Their presence in your country adds up to several million.

If you could relieve yourself of this beast-like obsession with "data" and "statistics" you might become a more competent being. Instead you will most likely continue to submit to the soulless, ignorant, depraved, shit-in-the-butt people power system of numbers, rotating gears and silicon wafers that arose from the graves of the most morally bankrupt movements of human history: the scientific revolution and the "Enlightenment."

[Dichromate]

snip
Right. So basically you've pulled the number out of your anus and have no source whatsoever.

To assert that the indigenous population of Australia is approximately 500,000 is to say that it declined by 500,000 during the period from the late 1800s to the present time.

Nope, it would be to say it declined precipitously from the late 1700s to the mid-late 1800s. You're missing 100 years of white settlement there.

That would fly in the face of the fact that every demographic group that was contacted by humanity during the later stages of the industrial revolution showed marked increases in population size, not dramatic decreases.
But they weren't contacted in the later stages, they were contacted at the very beginning. Australia was being colonized a good 100 years before you seem to believe it was.
By 1840 the Tasmanian aborigines for instance, were pretty much completely gone.

And the number of indigenous Australians partaking in the census itself is far lower the actual number of those living in the country itself. Their presence in your country adds up to several million.

based on what exactly? 2 million of them living in hidden cities in the desert?

At this point you're so out there you're either a total loon or I'm being trolled, in which case well done.

[tomjonesa22]

It's very simple don't go tO jail

[Struwwelpeter]

:gusta:


Re-read my post. I never said that there are 2,000,000 Australoids living in hidden cities.

I am aware that White people have been in Australia prior to the 1800s. The late 1800s was, however, the beginning of rapid industrialization in Australia. The presence of White people in Australia has never had a negative impact on the number of indigenous Australoids. They certainly did not kill off half of the population. I'm not sure why you would insinuate that they did seeing as you are such a fervent and nationalistic Australian who is dedicated to insuring that internet discussions about Australia remain thoroughly cited and factual. Maybe it's because you're desperately trying to save face.

[testerman]

At this point you're so out there you're either a total loon or I'm being trolled, in which case well done.

nope, he's a total loon.

[Struwwelpeter]

Ask yourself why society sucks today. And I will tell you the answer: It's the Jews!

LOL

[testerman]

Why is it that so many people on the internet claim to have been attacked by racial minorities? I often wonder if these people are just lying through their teeth.

WTF? I know people that have been attacked by nigs and spics. It happens all the time

[Struwwelpeter]

Ask yourself why society sucks today. And I will tell you the answer: It's the Jews!

LMFAO

[Dichromate]

Re-read my post. I never said that there are 2,000,000 Australoids living in hidden cities.
It's the logical consequence of your claims - not only that there were an additional 2 million or so abbos, but many weren't filling out census at all.

And the number of indigenous Australians partaking in the census itself is far lower the actual number of those living in the country itself. Their presence in your country adds up to several million.


I am aware that White people have been in Australia prior to the 1800s. The late 1800s was, however, the beginning of rapid industrialization in Australia.

Which is utterly irrelevant. The pre-columbian population in the Americas didn't plunge because of industrialization.


The presence of White people in Australia has never had a negative impact on the number of indigenous Australoids.

Except in Tasmania.


They certainly did not kill off half of the population.I'm not sure why you would insinuate that they did seeing as you are such a fervent and nationalistic Australian
Except in Tasmania where they directly and indirectly killed basically all of them?
- not that the bulk of the decline would be attributable to direct violence.


Maybe it's because you're desperately trying to save face.

Projection much?

[yawanur]

hoveland gtfo the web and live in real life, maybe you'll finally get laid then

[Struwwelpeter]

It's the logical consequence of your claims - not only that there were an additional 2 million or so abbos, but many weren't filling out census at all.

No, it isn't. There are plenty of people who live in cities who do not partake in the census. I am one of them, and I have not been counted since 1990. There are many others like me who have not been counted at all - homebirths and such.

The pre-columbian population in the Americas didn't plunge because of industrialization.

Exactly! Populations INCREASE due to industrialization! Better access to immunizations and vaccinations, better nutrition, advances in medical care, etc: demographic boom. So it makes no sense that the Australoid population would decrease by half after the industrialization of Australia. Are you catching on yet, Dichromate...?

[Dichromate]

No, it isn't. There are plenty of people who live in cities who do not partake in the census. I am one of them, and I have not been counted since 1990. There are many others like me who have not been counted at all - homebirths and such.

So where are they? because the numbers you claim would put them around equal to the Asian population in the mid 00s. One group is apparent, the other is not, and it's not as though the census is the only source by which the indigenous population is or has been estimated.


Exactly! The populations INCREASE due to industrialization! Better access to immunizations and vaccinations: increases in populations. So it makes no sense that the Australoid population would decrease by half during the industrialization of Australia. Are you catching on yet, Dichromate...?


I am aware that White people have been in Australia prior to the 1800s. The late 1800s was, however, the beginning of rapid industrialization in Australia.

So essentially, you acknowledge that there was a European presence from the late 1700s and that industrialization didn't start until the late 1800s.
There are 100 years there that you're (deliberately) not accounting for.

I don't really need to add anything else to that, looks like you have enough rope to hang yourself.

[Struwwelpeter]

The industrial revolution began sometime around the early 1800s in Europe, you fucking dolt. It spread to the rest of the world throughout this period and arrived in Australia sometime around the 1850s with the gold rush although widespread electricity and sewage services didn't even appear in Australia (or anywhere else outside of western Europe and few major US cities, for that matter) until the early 1900s.

[Dichromate]

The industrial revolution began sometime around the early 1800s in Europe, you fucking dolt.
I'm well aware of when it began in Europe, but what's that have to do with the price of eggs?


It spread to the rest of the world throughout this period and arrived in Australia sometime around the 1850s with the gold rush although widespread electricity and sewage services didn't even appear in Australia (or anywhere else outside of western Europe and few major US cities, for that matter) until the early 1900s.


Now you're explicitly contradicting yourself.

I am aware that White people have been in Australia prior to the 1800s. The late 1800s was, however, the beginning of rapid industrialization in Australia.

So now it's the mid 1800s and not the late 1800s?

It's really quite amusing to see you thrashing around trying to grab onto something, anything just to get away from the fact that the aboriginal population declined precipitously in the hundred years(give or take) since whites arrived in Australia. I mean there's a 60-100 year hole and documented instances of genocide in between the beginning of white settlement and Australia industrializing, accepting your own (multiple) times for industrialization.

The documented disappearance of the Tasmanian aboriginal population within 40 years of white settlement in Tasmania shows that drastic declines in population could and did happen in Australia, and given that settlement in New South Wales started more than a decade earlier, it's hardly a surprise that aboriginal population on the mainland had been heavily affected by the time the gold rush brought in hundreds of thousands more white migrants.

Regardless though, at this point you're basically supporting my position - Australia wasn't an industrial society until late in the piece, after the aboriginal population was slashed by disease, violence and deprivation.
(I don't actually accept your timeline for the industrialization of Australia either, but you're doing such a good job destroying your own argument that I'm reluctant to interrupt.)

You've already explicitly stated the beginning of the industrial revolution as the early 19th century, so the colonization of Australia beginning in the late 18th century doesn't actually fit into:

That would fly in the face of the fact that every demographic group that was contacted by humanity during the later stages of the industrial revolution showed marked increases in population size, not dramatic decreases.

where you were presumably trying to draw a parallel with African and Asian colonial possessions.

You're tying yourself in knots here, there's a black hole in the story you're trying to tell and all you can do is to try and attack little straw men ie:
The industrial revolution began sometime around the early 1800s in Europe, you fucking dolt.
(when did I ever state otherwise?)
Presumably because on every substantive point you've been demonstrated to be full of shit, leaving, for a recalcitrant little prick such as yourself little choice but to flail around in aimless fury.

[Struwwelpeter]

If the industrial revolution originated in Europe in the early 1800s then it wouldn't matter if there were White people in Australia in the 1700s because industrial society would not have existed at that time, Dichromate. I forgive you for your stubborn ignorance.

[Dichromate]

If the industrial revolution originated in Europe in the early 1800s then it wouldn't matter if there were White people in Australia in the 1700s because industrial society would not have existed at that time, Dichromate. I forgive you for your stubborn ignorance.

But industrial society not existing there my entire point, you're contradicting yourself again:

That would fly in the face of the fact that every demographic group that was contacted by humanity during the later stages of the industrial revolution showed marked increases in population size, not dramatic decreases.

Therefore, rather than being similar to the late 19th century colonization of Africa or much of South East Asia, the colonization of Australia has far more in common with that of North America, where agricultural settlers appropriated native land and sporadically killed natives who themselves suffered heavily from western diseases and the effects of being pushed from the desirable, fertile parts of the country.

Perhaps you've lost sight of the original argument?
-your absurd claim that Aborigines had had a straight line ride from a ~1 million (itself a bullshit number, mainstream claims are more like 750,000) to comprising 12+% of the Australian population today.

You're not very mentally organized are you?

[Struwwelpeter]

Very few natives were killed by colonizers in Australia; you yourself already admitted this earlier in the thread so there is no point in bringing it up. The actual number of Australians who died of Western diseases isn't calculable, but either way it did not have a truly detrimental effect in Latin America. The number of people who are primarily or entirely descended from indigenous Americans is several times what it was in the 1600s. Smallpox, for example, is recorded to have swept through the Incan Empire but today the population of Peru is approximately 30,000,000 and most of these people are basically indigenous Americans.

Furthermore the colonization of Australia has nothing in common with that of the Americas - the pacific side of Americas had already been reached by conquistadors in the early 1500s, in Australia the first major groups of settlers arrived during the late 1700s. South America and Australia also began industrializing at around the same time and at a similar pace. That was nearly 300 extra years of exposure to Western diseases (at a rate far higher than any Australoid group was ever exposed to) and yet there are still hundreds of millions of indigenous Americans.

It would be impossible for a population of 1,000,000 people to be reduced to approximately 500,000 today with all of the advances that we have had in medical technology and access to better nutrition and safer lifestyles. It would also be impossible for a group of people to constitute 2.5% of the population and make up 25% of it's prisoners.

You are wrong when you say that indigenous Australians make up 2.5% of the population. You know that you are wrong, and if you felt that you weren't you would not be so offended by what it is that I have to say.

[Struwwelpeter]

Even local governments in your shitty country are willing to admit that an unknown number of indigenous Australians remain unaccounted for. :lol:

One of the most important sources of data on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people is the five yearly ABS Census of Population and Housing. Census counts of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people measure the number of persons who identify as being of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander origin on the census form on census night.

However, inevitably some persons are missed in the census or counted more than once. The net effect is referred to as net undercount. Post-censual surveys indicate that the net undercount for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people is in the order of 5 to 10% across Australia.

In addition the number of people who identify as being of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander origin is undercounted as an unknown proportion do not answer this question. The 2001 Census in Queensland revealed that 3.7% (134,196) of people did not complete the identification question, exceeding the 3.1% (112,772 persons) who identified as being of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander origin.

Taking in to account my earlier point about how most Australoids do not even identify as indigenous when they do partake in the national census it would seem that the population is even higher than 12% - possibly in the realm of 15%.

[testerman]

Businessman tells of South African prison rape that left him HIV positive

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/896211-businessman-tells-of-south-african-prison-rape-that-left-him-hiv-positive#ixzz1supvHHN9

Sean Smith, a business partner of rugby star Gareth Thomas, said he was attacked up to eight times a day during his 19-month stay in St Alban’s jail after his arrest on suspicion of a multi-million-pound fraud.
The 42-year-old, was targeted in a cell he shared with 90 inmates in 2007.
‘They did it not just as part of gang dominance but in my case it was showing supremacy over a white man – I was the only one there,’ he said.
‘It went on for months – there wasn’t much left of me by then anyway... I was pretty much a skeleton.’
After nine months in the jail 30km (17 miles) out of Port Elizabeth, Mr Smith tested positive for HIV.
‘At that point I didn’t give a damn, I was broken, I was broken physically, mentally, I had nothing left I had no spirit at all so I didn’t care,’ he added.
After being granted bail, Mr Smith, from Glamorgan, South Wales, hid in the boot of a British High Commission car and crossed into Lesotho.
He has since been diagnosed with a lymphoma on the brain.
The Home Office was ‘unable to say’ if South Africa had made a request for his extradition.

[ACE_187]

85% of prison rapes in the USA are comitted by Black men, despite black men only constituting 41% of the prison population.

Most prison rapes in the USA are comitted by black men on white men.
The phenomena of blacks exclusively raping whites has been substantially documented since the 1960s....

Stfu you dumb nigger. I've never been to prison, but my friend is 10 years older than me. I met him in jail and he's been in prison pretty much his whole life. He's a psycho. He's beaten several of you into comas and I've seen what he can do myself. Niggers rape other niggers. They would rape some stupid new white kid coming in there who made the mistake of trying to be their friend, but a white guy that stupid is rare.

[King of the world]

Anders is the kind of cunt who portrays whites to be poor meak victims and will never praise attacks on niggers and people of other races by whites.

I seriously wish that white nationalists weren't the most mainstream type of racists. So many of them are so fucking autistic and useless... as if they'd be any good or wanted in an aryan (noble) society. The majority of white nationalists are anything but 'Aryan'. Hitler, Julius Evola, Dr William Pierce, George Lincoln Rockwell, the founding fathers or whoever they decide to look upto this week would disown them. I get the feeling a lot of them are bullied schoolkids who live(d) sheltered lives and are just hobbyists.

Ya know, for all of the slagging off white nationalists do about the Aryan Brotherhood and Public Enemy Number One, they still have more nobility and heroic bones in their body than any of these keyboard warriors do.

[Tachosomoza]

George Lincoln Rockwell :lol:

[King of the world]

George Lincoln Rockwell :lol:

What? He was the ultimate IRL troll of that era, had a lot of balls and was certainly more grounded and sincere in his beliefs than any white trashionalist today is. He's a respectable man and was a good writer, even you have to give him that.

The man and what he achieved was genius. The silly uniforms gave him a voice; he was able to inspire hate and respect, he became a media sensation and was invited to speak at univiersities. He rightly believed that if an enemy calls you a name then you accept it and use it to form an opposition against them.

http://i.imgur.com/Vd21C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WyOx5.jpg
Say wut, nigga!?

George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael Part 1 - YouTube


White Power and This time the world were awesome books.

[ACE_187]

Anders is the kind of cunt who portrays whites to be poor meak victims and will never praise attacks on niggers and people of other races by whites.

I seriously wish that white nationalists weren't the most mainstream type of racists. So many of them are so fucking autistic and useless... as if they'd be any good or wanted in an aryan (noble) society. The majority of white nationalists are anything but 'Aryan'. Hitler, Julius Evola, Dr William Pierce, George Lincoln Rockwell, the founding fathers or whoever they decide to look upto this week would disown them. I get the feeling a lot of them are bullied schoolkids who live(d) sheltered lives and are just hobbyists.

Ya know, for all of the slagging off white nationalists do about the Aryan Brotherhood and Public Enemy Number One, they still have more nobility and heroic bones in their body than any of these keyboard warriors do.

It's bad when I can't decide whether he's just some spineless white racial person or some gay/bisexual nigger trying to talk about his fantasies. It seems more like that. Even if it was true (which it's not)...just nevermind. Anders whatever you are, kill yourself.

[Tachosomoza]

What? He was the ultimate IRL troll of that era, had a lot of balls and was certainly more grounded and sincere in his beliefs than any white trashionalist today is. He's a respectable man and was a good writer, even you have to give him that.

The only part you got right was he was a troll. Not the most successful, though, I think that prize goes to Malcolm X and the NoI. Those nuts scared the shit out of everybody.

[King of the world]

Those nuts scared the shit out of everybody.
Except for GLR and the ANP...
Not that good at 'trolling' were they?

[King of the world]

It's bad when I can't decide whether he's just some spineless white racial person or some gay/bisexual nigger trying to talk about his fantasies. It seems more like that. Even if it was true (which it's not)...just nevermind. Anders whatever you are, kill yourself.

Looking at his threads in LLR and his other victim mentality inspired threads, I'd say he's a humble honkie with an order of assburgers.

[Tachosomoza]

Except for GLR and the ANP...
Not that good at 'trolling' were they?

When Martin Luther King was in Alabama leading protests, either Muhammad or Malcolm sent GLR and the KKK telegrams saying that if anything were to happen to King or his aides because of the KKK or Nazis, there would be a retaliatory strike on the home and family of every racist white leader from Rockwell to the Grand Wizards in all the Southern states. You leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. Nothing happened.