Metal

[Issue313]

The history of metal is hugely important in European history. People don't realise what life would be like without metal, or how impossible it would be to defend yourself against metal using tribes. Metal ages, copper, bronze, iron, were basically waves of knowledge, and the tribes that were smart enough to make the new metal were literally able to exterminate the triibes that weren't. I think this was enormously important to improving the gene pool of Europe, and is one reason (of many) why people from other regions of the world are inferior, they never went through quite the same technological advancement process themselves. Europe was a place where being a good fighter wasn't enough, you had to match your fighting skill with know-how, or at least appreciation for those with know-how.

[Rolf]

they never went through quite the same technological advancement process themselves.

They were too busy having their cities and populations decimated by nomadic invaders from the steppes.

[Tachosomoza]

The history of metal is hugely important in European history. People don't realise what life would be like without metal, or how impossible it would be to defend yourself against metal using tribes. Metal ages, copper, bronze, iron, were basically waves of knowledge, and the tribes that were smart enough to make the new metal were literally able to exterminate the triibes that weren't. I think this was enormously important to improving the gene pool of Europe, and is one reason (of many) why people from other regions of the world are inferior, they never went through quite the same technological advancement process themselves. Europe was a place where being a good fighter wasn't enough, you had to match your fighting skill with know-how, or at least appreciation for those with know-how.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nok_culture

Iron use, in smelting and forging for tools, appears in Nok culture in Africa at least by 550 BC and more probably in the middle of the second millennium BC (between 1400 BC and 1600 BC depending on references

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca#Weapons.2C_armor.2C_and_warfare

Bronze or bone-tipped spears
Two-handed wooden swords with serrated edges
Clubs with stone and spiked metal heads
Woolen slings and stones
Stone or copper headed battle-axes
Bolas (stones fastened to lengths of cord)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang_dynasty#Bronze_working

Chinese bronze casting and pottery advanced during the Shang dynasty, with bronze commonly being used for art rather than weapons.[inconsistent] As far back as c. 1500 BC, the early Shang Dynasty engaged in large-scale production of bronze-ware vessels and weapons.[45] This production required a large labor force that could handle the mining, refining, and transportation of the necessary copper, tin, and lead ores. This in turn created a need for official managers that could oversee both hard-laborers and skilled artisans and craftsmen.[45] The Shang royal court and aristocrats required a vast amount of different bronze vessels for various ceremonial purposes and events of religious divination.[45] Ceremonial rules even decreed how many bronze containers of each type a nobleman or noblewoman of a certain rank could own. With the increased amount of bronze available, the army could also better equip itself with an assortment of bronze weaponry. Bronze was also used for the fittings of spoke-wheeled chariots, which appeared in China around 1200 BC

[benny vader]

I'll just leave these inferior arts here :

http://www.phoer.net/history/2004/20040211b.htm

[Struwwelpeter]

Basically the exact opposite of what OP posted is true.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

yeah, I'm pretty sure there were cultures in AFrica that were smelting mothafuckin' steel while certain European Tribes were tattooing their asses with blue dragons. :umad:

[Struwwelpeter]

Africans may very well have smelted steel. They are, after all, a race that is clearly more affected by civilization than Whites. The steel smelters are inferior, by the way. Technologically advanced cultures are always inferior and are always dominated by savages. Even today, savages control advanced society. Go see the little reduced cro-Magnid weasel Eric Hufschmid's "Neanderthal" page.

[Sleep Is A Curse]

Africans may very well have smelted steel. They are, after all, a race that is clearly more affected by civilization than Whites. The steel smelters are inferior, by the way. Technologically advanced cultures are always inferior and are always dominated by savages. Even today, savages control advanced society. Go see the little reduced cro-Magnid weasel Eric Hufschmid's "Neanderthal" page.

I simply was pointing out to the OP that there were cultures with metallurgy before Europeans. I refuse to be sucked into a discussion about "inferior" or "superior" cultures. Places once full of what might have been seen as superior cultures are now perpetual war zones and places that once housed people that could have passed for sub human are now doing quite well.

With those things in mind, it's difficult for me to judge.

However, I agree with you, Jim. OP is wrong.

[Tachosomoza]

Africans may very well have smelted steel.

They did, actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel

The Haya people of East Africa invented a type of high-heat blast furnace which allowed them to forge carbon steel at 1,802 °C (3,276 °F) nearly 2,000 years ago.

[Struwwelpeter]

Well, east Africans are White, so I guess I should have made clear that I am talking about Negroids, the people from western Africa, i.e. the people who everyone thinks about when they think of "Black people."

[Struwwelpeter]

Places once full of what might have been seen as superior cultures are now perpetual war zones and places that once housed people that could have passed for sub human are now doing quite well.


Indeed, no point in arguing about which culture is inferior or superior, because all cultures are equally inferior. I'm an animal-supremacist. Culture is the DEFINITION of inferiority! High culture = inferior. I'm even including high-socializing primitive tribes in to the definition of "cultured." And the end of the day they all bow their heads to the mighty ANIMAL!!!

"Woo-hoo, we're playin' with metal and shit!!! Now it's time for me to get an ass whippin'!"