-SpectraL is a sack of shit, that should be banned from the community

[constantinople]

But none of the administration have the sack to just ban the fuck for the good of the community.


If you care to take an unbiased look at zoklet history, -SpectraL and his alts and cronies were consistently behind every single wave of drama that caused the good mods to leave, the bad ones to stay, and the userbase to flee for the hills.



Kill this nigger's e-life, and hopefully he'll hang himself shortly after.

[Paragon]

In my opinion, we should just dismiss him. That is, ignore PI complaints he makes (since he's inconsistent about what is and isn't his PI and loves to bait members into posting it + getting banned), ban him in all serious forums where he does anything other than post useful information, and allow mods to randomly ban him for a week or so whenever the community grows tired of him. An actual permaban isn't necessary, since having -Spec around bitching in PEOO can sometimes be a good time. If I were in charge, that's the kind of status I'd give him.

[Miley Highrus]

I think everyones account should be set to ignore on him automatically. Then we can all respond to his posts without reading them. I mean it wouldn't be hard. That way we dont have to be bothered with his shit and that poor old man wont have to kill himself.

[-SpectraL]

In my opinion, we should just dismiss him. That is, ignore PI complaints he makes (since he's inconsistent about what is and isn't his PI and loves to bait members into posting it + getting banned), ban him in all serious forums where he does anything other than post useful information, and allow mods to randomly ban him for a week or so whenever the community grows tired of him. An actual permaban isn't necessary, since having -Spec around bitching in PEOO can sometimes be a good time. If I were in charge, that's the kind of status I'd give him.Then again, you're simply a useless piece of shit. Nobody really gives two warm shits what you think.

[poast-bortem!]

If you care to take an unbiased look at zoklet history, poast and his alts and cronies were consistently behind every single wave of drama that caused the good mods to leave, the bad ones to stay, and the userbase to flee for the hills.

Fixed

[Bradley]

I believe Spectral has many alts that will feast on the Zoklet if he is banned.

[-SpectraL]

I believe Spectral has many alts that will feast on the Zoklet if he is banned.Theoretically speaking, and just supposing I've been bent on the destruction of Zoklet in its entirety since DaGuru's account was illegitimately perma-banned, wouldn't I have done so already? I mean, if I theoretically had a huge army of surrogates at my disposal, would I not have already wiped this entire sorry excuse for a BBS off the face of the Internet map by now, thus taking those two blatant and shameless cowards down with it? C'mon, dude. You need to use some logic on this. What you're implying just don't add up!

[Bradley]

Theoretically speaking, and just supposing I've been bent on the destruction of Zoklet in its entirety since DaGuru's account was illegitimately perma-banned, wouldn't I have done so already? I mean, if I theoretically had a huge army of surrogates at my disposal, would I not have already wiped this entire sorry excuse for a BBS off the face of the Internet map by now, thus taking those two blatant and shameless cowards down with it? C'mon, dude. You need to use some logic on this. What you're implying just don't add up!

I think you have everything necessary already dug into the infrastructure. I just think without Zoklet your quality of life would heavily depreciate and you'd be at a loss, so you just keep rambling. Or you're not confident in your own abilities to flood/spam/overrun this place till posting content for the community is impossible.

[Miley Highrus]

Spectral isn't anything but a sad old man. He has average hacking skills at best. If he was banned the only thing that would happen is you'd see him bitching about it on another account. The site wouldn't even go down for one second as a result. He is a pussy through and through. He wants people to fear him but in the end it doesn't even matter. He tried so hard and got so far but in the end it doesn't even matter.

[Derision]

In my opinion, we should just dismiss him. That is, ignore PI complaints he makes (since he's inconsistent about what is and isn't his PI and loves to bait members into posting it + getting banned), ban him in all serious forums where he does anything other than post useful information, and allow mods to randomly ban him for a week or so whenever the community grows tired of him. An actual permaban isn't necessary, since having -Spec around bitching in PEOO can sometimes be a good time. If I were in charge, that's the kind of status I'd give him.

This just goes to show the mods really do sit around and plot to ban members. Vladie's fat ass has obviously spent a significant amount of time planning this out. Sad.

[Snoopy]

This just goes to show the mods really do sit around and plot to ban members. Vladie's fat ass has obviously spent a significant amount of time planning this out. Sad.

Only spectral was never a member of this community. Making an account does not make you a member. Well, perhaps if by member you mean cock. Then yes, he is indeed a penis.

[Derision]

Why the fuck is Vladie even a mod for PEOO or at all? What makes him 'qualified'? Fucking nothing, that's what. He's only a mod because he's Zok's IRL bitch.

[constantinople]

This just goes to show the mods really do sit around and plot to ban members. Vladie's fat ass has obviously spent a significant amount of time planning this out. Sad.

As if rabble rousing for the point of rabble rousing is a redeemable quality compared to being vindictive.


You should be banned as well, ShadyLady

[DirtySanchez]

As if rabble rousing for the point of rabble rousing is a redeemable quality compared to being vindictive.


You should be banned as well, ShadyLady

Do you have any proof that Derision is ShadyLady or are you just talking out ur ass like usual?

[Derision]

lol. There is no proof of me being that member.

-Spectral has a right to complain all he wants. He's not breaking any rules. If you don't like his posts, put him on ignore. No one forces you to read his posts or even visit this site.

[Paragon]

Derision REALLY hates me for some reason. He bitches about me a lot. I don't really know who he is, though. Maybe he's a cool guy otherwise, but I'll never see that side of him.

[Derision]

As if rabble rousing for the point of rabble rousing is a redeemable quality compared to being vindictive.


You shouldn't have used a comma after 'shit'.

[-SpectraL]

Derision REALLY hates me for some reason. He bitches about me a lot. I don't really know who he is, though. Maybe he's a cool guy otherwise, but I'll never see that side of him.Derision is a woman. Since you do mod this forum I thought you'd be more informed as to the members who frequent it. I'm disappoint. Then again, you've done that before, haven't you (question mark intentionally omitted).

[DirtySanchez]

lol. There is no proof of me being that member.

-Spectral has a right to complain all he wants. He's not breaking any rules. If you don't like his posts, put him on ignore. No one forces you to read his posts or even visit this site.

Thats what I'm saying. The whole thing comes down to free speech. Respect it or get the hell out this site.

[-SpectraL]

Thats what I'm saying. The whole thing comes down to free speech. Respect it or get the hell out this site.Is that why you quit the Totse clone? Because your posts in the past don't really support your current platform.

[DirtySanchez]

Is that why you quit the Totse clone? Because your posts in the past don't really support your current platform.

People can evolve brother. I realized the flaws of how I operated in the past and I've copped to them. The fact is here and now the way this place is run is bullshit.

[-SpectraL]

People can evolve brother. I realized the flaws of how I operated in the past and I've copped to them. The fact is here and now the way this place is run is bullshit.Truth be told, there's a bit of an underground revolution going on right now within the upper echelons. Things are not as rank and file as one might imagine. Recent events, and the downward spiral of the userbase and the webspace content, is taking a heavy toll on the cohesiveness of the staff. Certain staff members are truly unhappy with the administration, and for many of them, their hands are currently tied concerning a lot of things they would personally like to present to us. I've been monitoring this situation quite closely for several months now. Edges are frayed. Nerves are raw. Grudges are fresh. All is not as it seems in paradise at the moment. Anything could happen at this point, up to and including a major internal revolt. Zok and wires thinks it doesn't really matter, any of it, but they are oh so wrong. It will matter.

[pill popper]

But none of the administration have the sack to just ban the fuck for the good of the community.


If you care to take an unbiased look at zoklet history, -SpectraL and his alts and cronies were consistently behind every single wave of drama that caused the good mods to leave, the bad ones to stay, and the userbase to flee for the hills.



Kill this nigger's e-life, and hopefully he'll hang himself shortly after.

Snoopy first
Unwyred and Paragook second and then maybe but since none of those will ever happen I believe good ol spec is safe for a long long time so quit fucking.bitching

[-SpectraL]

True enough, but remember... wires could swoop in AT ANY TIME. She very clueless and unpredictable, and incidentally does have unfettered access to the Site Administrator Control Panel. Nothing is guaranteed. I'm prepared for any eventuality.

['Ed Rush]

The thing is, this is very much a community. Spectral is a part of it, Snoopy is a part of it, I am a part of it, Derision is a part of it. We all have our unique parts to play. The enemy are those with the power to stifle opinion. Moderators and admins. By banning people you are destroying my ability to communicate with others. You are the enemies of the community and deserve to be PI raped. I eagerly await the day you fags get your Facebooks exposed, just like all the other retards that thought they could make a difference, and we destroy your lives.

[Snoopy]

The thing is, this is very much a community. Spectral is a part of it, Snoopy is a part of it, I am a part of it, Derision is a part of it. We all have our unique parts to play. The enemy are those with the power to stifle opinion. Moderators and admins. By banning people you are destroying my ability to communicate with others. You are the enemies of the community and deserve to be PI raped. I eagerly await the day you fags get your Facebooks exposed, just like all the other retards that thought they could make a difference, and we destroy your lives.

Who the fuck are you?

A community? Yeah, if you call shitting and pissing in a plastic bag full of holes and spinning it around wildly over your had a community, then yes, we are a piss and shit filled bag being swirled around. Pisspoo is getting sprayed 360 degrees shit's mad thick unwyred babby momma dropped his ass real quick

[Tokerface]

Derision and daGuru = Spectral. :hrmph:

[pill popper]

True enough, but remember... wires could swoop in AT ANY TIME. She very clueless and unpredictable, and incidentally does have unfettered access to the Site Administrator Control Panel. Nothing is guaranteed. I'm prepared for any eventuality.

I forvot about the wires bitterness. .... Oh well i bet paragook is who bans me and for fun.or.by order

[Derision]

In my opinion, we should just dismiss him. That is, ignore PI complaints he makes (since he's inconsistent about what is and isn't his PI and loves to bait members into posting it + getting banned), ban him in all serious forums where he does anything other than post useful information, and allow mods to randomly ban him for a week or so whenever the community grows tired of him. An actual permaban isn't necessary, since having -Spec around bitching in PEOO can sometimes be a good time. If I were in charge, that's the kind of status I'd give him.

Why are you a mod on a freedom of speech forum when all you want to do is CENSOR???

[Derision]

The thing is, this is very much a community. Spectral is a part of it, Snoopy is a part of it, I am a part of it, Derision is a part of it. We all have our unique parts to play. The enemy are those with the power to stifle opinion. Moderators and admins. By banning people you are destroying my ability to communicate with others. You are the enemies of the community and deserve to be PI raped. I eagerly await the day you fags get your Facebooks exposed, just like all the other retards that thought they could make a difference, and we destroy your lives.

Both Vladie and Unwyred's full PI is out there, neither took measures to protect their security.

[constantinople]

Why are you a mod on a freedom of speech forum when all you want to do is CENSOR???

Because some people are annoying as fuck with one track minds. Why do you think a lot of people got banned from &T? Exactly, now shut up cunt.

[-SpectraL]

If any of you have ANYTHING to do with posting a member's personal information (exempting zok and wires' PI, of course), for any reason whatsoever, you will simply be banned. Even if it means you all will be banned one by one and nobody is left, you will still all be banned. Which brings the question: Is it really worth it to play with PI? On top of that, playing with and posting another member's PI is low-down and cowardly. It says that you're a weak poster and can't handle yourself in the community without hiding behind some member's PI. I know you're much better than that. Nobody EVER got anywhere in this community by taking the cowardly road... not a single one. And I've been paying attention the entire time. All you will get out of it is you will get your account banned... period. Mark my words.

[Snoopy]

If any of you have ANYTHING to do with posting a member's personal information (exempting zok and wires' PI, of course), for any reason whatsoever, you will simply be banned. Even if it means you all will be banned one by one and nobody is left, you will still all be banned. Which brings the question: Is it really worth it to play with PI? On top of that, playing with and posting another member's PI is low-down and cowardly. It says that you're a weak poster and can't handle yourself in the community without hiding behind some member's PI. I know you're much better than that. Nobody EVER got anywhere in this community by taking the cowardly road... not a single one. And I've been paying attention the entire time. All you will get out of it is you will get your account banned... period. Mark my words.

TL/DR

what u gon do now bitch?

[constantinople]

If any of you have ANYTHING to do with posting a member's personal information (exempting zok and wires' PI, of course), for any reason whatsoever, you will simply be banned. Even if it means you all will be banned one by one and nobody is left, you will still all be banned. Which brings the question: Is it really worth it to play with PI? On top of that, playing with and posting another member's PI is low-down and cowardly. It says that you're a weak poster and can't handle yourself in the community without hiding behind some member's PI. I know you're much better than that. Nobody EVER got anywhere in this community by taking the cowardly road... not a single one. And I've been paying attention the entire time. All you will get out of it is you will get your account banned... period. Mark my words.


You can't turn back the clock and go back to the old days of the BBS. Reddit and facebook exist, now.

[-SpectraL]

Are you saying it's ok to post zok and wires' PISince they like to play dirty by default and ban members who have broken no rules, I don't see that there'd be any foul play there whatsoever. Sometimes you just gotta fight fire with fire no matter what hell may come. As wise King Solomon once said,

"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens. A time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace."

[Bradley]

Since they like to play dirty by default and ban members who have broken no rules, I don't see that there'd be any foul play there whatsoever. Sometimes you just gotta fight fire with fire no matter what hell may come.

So it's okay to post PI of people you mad at, but if anyone else is mad with someone and does it it's cowardly? That's kinda hypocritical. You should go spend time with your family instead of talking shit and harassing the owners of a website you generate profit to with your silly rants. :eek:

You know that's why you're not banned right? You're entertaining.:whistle:

[-SpectraL]

It's not a matter of being mad at anyone. It's a matter of justice, fairness and an adherence by all to the set of rules we have. If someone wants to play outside that environment by playing dirty, hitting below the belt, and maliciously circumventing those rules put in place for the benefit of all concerned, then IMO they fully deserve everything they get and all bets are off.

[Derision]

Since they like to play dirty by default and ban members who have broken no rules, I don't see that there'd be any foul play there whatsoever. Sometimes you just gotta fight fire with fire no matter what hell may come. As wise King Solomon once said,

"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens. A time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace."


By your logic, then Unwyred's PI should be released, too.

I think Unwyred deserves to have his life ruined for what he did to his wife.

[-SpectraL]

...for what he did to his wife.What is between him and his wife is of no real concern to the welfare of this community.

[Bradley]

By your logic, then Unwyred's PI should be released, too.

I think Unwyred deserves to have his life ruined for what he did to his wife.

What is between him and his wife is of no real concern to the welfare of this community.

This, honestly.

[Tokerface]

I hit Spectral today.

I really have no idea what came over me. I mean I've snapped as a result of temper loss but I've never done it outside of my house, and I've never taken it out on another human being let alone a guy older than me. I met Spectral for the first time on Tuesday, and I should've been able to tell that his childish bitchiness about daguru's ban was just his way of trying to be funny. For some reason though, he just seemed to hit on far too many sensitive areas and for whatever reason and he touched a nerve, my testosterone got the best of me and I just swung.

He staggered back a bit and I just froze thinking, "Did I just do that?" He looked up with the most terrifying expression I've ever seen in my life. I just left. I didn't run... just quickly walked away really quickly and drove home. I've never actually had a craving for a cigarette before. I was pretty quiet for the rest of the day...cold and shaking too because holy fuck I just hit a lifelong totse and zoklet member... for no reason. I've never been in a fist fight. This is not me. Have I just gone crazy? I don't even think I can go back to campus anymore. My mom noticed that I was acting weird of course and asked me what was up. I just blew up in tears and told her what I had done. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared. She said "You're movin' in with your aunty and uncle in Bel Air." I whistled for a cab and when it came near, the license plate said "FRESH" and had dice in the mirror! If anything I could say that this cab was rare but I thought now forget it, "Yo, home, to Bel-Air!"

[constantinople]

By your logic, then Unwyred's PI should be released, too.

I think Unwyred deserves to have his life ruined for what he did to his wife.

:facepalm: as if someone's relationship with their wife has anything to do with the community.


There are exceptions though, Kai & his wife, 'Zek & Hardly There

[Proots]

I appreciate the discussion this thread has spawned.

[Tokerface]

I appreciate the discussion this thread has spawned.

I agree.

[Derision]

:facepalm: as if someone's relationship with their wife has anything to do with the community.

Well, his wife did come on here on his account to tell us all about how he cheated. If it weren't for that we might not have the lulz we have today from making fun of him for cheating on his wife. I feel we owe her one.