The Invention Thread

[SconeSnatcher]

Post ideas you have which you think should be implemented into society and people can post their opinions and criticism on the ideas. I'll start it off

1.) Hi-Tech Bus Stops - I think bus stops especially busy inner city ones should have computer screens which show you the location of the bus on a little street map and tell you how many meters away the bus is so people have an idea how long it will take for the bus to arrive. I'd say buses already have GPS tracking devices to prevent them getting robbed so all they'd need to do is install baic digital screens and GPS recievers into the bus shelters.

2.) Public Work Areas - Places where anyone can just walk in, work for as many hours as they like, take their payment and leave. No CV's, no interviews no bullshit. Basically places that always have tasks which require absolutely no skill or experience. The workers would walk in, sign in with the reception, the reception then assigns tasks and decides how the worker will be payed. Obviously it would work by work done not hours. The public work place has a wide range of tasks which need to be done in a database and estimate how much each tasks is worth. The worker either takes it or leaves it. Some examples would be cleaning construction sites so the people with trades don't have to. Cleaning the streets. Digging holes for farmers or construction contractors. Working in mines. Any jobs which require no skill, experience and responsibility. Obviously they couldn't assign people to delivery jobs because they could rob the vehicle or goods. They wouldn't assign them jobs in commercial shops or warehouses. There are plenty of jobs that this would work for though.

3.) Public Multi-Story Parks - You know those multistory car parks with open walls? In densely populated inner city areas where the streets and parks are always packed its hard to find good spots to hang around. They could convert multistory car parks or build similar structures and reinforce the structure so it can withstand heavy weight. Then they line the floor with a few inches of soil, cover the place in grass seeds. Then they add overhead sprinklers, fluorescent lighting, benches, picnic tables. Then they could plant trees and plants and convert each floor into an indoor park where people can hang around. To reduce electrical costs they could setup reflectors to direct sunlight into the area. They could have little streams and waterfalls by setting up a pump/fountain on the top floor (roof) and setup canals flowing from floor to floor.

4.) Frictionless Trains - They could build highly coiled conductive canals which produce dense magnetic flux. The trains could be designed to be repelled from the conductive track to the extent that most of the friction is elimitated. In other words the train would be floating not rolling. They could setup walls which also repel the train to stop the train veering off the track.

5.) Solar Still Network - They should make a deal with Saharan African countries in which the rich countries provide the resources and the poor country provides the workers (who'd be more than happy to work for below our minimum wage) to setup a network of solar powered desalination plants along the Saharan coast. Then they setup networks of canals and solar powered pumps. The canals would be hooked up to reservoirs so once this thing gets going there will be large supplies of non saline water. That would be one of the benefits for the locals working on the project (clean drinking water isn't taken for granted in the Sahara). Once this water canal network and reservoirs are up and running then they build a hydroponic type system and setup a network of pipelines and sprinklers which will not only cover the area in water but it will add nutrients to the soil too. Soon enough this lifeless sand would become fertile and plants would start popping up left right and center. Once the lands fertile then they start planting fields of hot weather crops which strive in extremely sunny and hot environments and sooner or later this previously barren desert coastline would be covered in fields of valuable crops. On top of that all sorts of wild plants would start to inhabit the area and as a result the whole place would become way more inhabitable for animals and humans. They could setup small wildlife reserves and forests in the middle of the desert.

These fields would then be maintained by African farmers most of whom previously had no jobs and were in poverty. Considering the massive difference between the richest European countries and the poorest African countries there would be no complaints from either side. The Europeans could pay the farmers say 5 Euros an hour which is below minimum wage in any rich country. To the Africans this would be a high paying job and on top of their wages they get free drinking water and vegetables/herbs and are provided with housing built in the area. While the Africans couldn't be happier the Europeans would then be able to import the exotic crops which don't grow in Europe and sell them in Europe for normal prices and make a killing since the African farmers work for much less than any European would.

6.) International Currency - A currency which is accepted by every single country.

[comrade george]

Who are "they"?

Anyway, these all seem like social ideas, not scientifics ones, or practical applications of technologies already existing.

As for the magnetic train, I'm pretty these are being built in Germany and Japan.

[Echidna]

I built a thing that holds down the ends of mats or carpets that you put on hard wood floors and secures the ends to the floor with suction cups. The reason was because my vacuum would shit out a rubber belt everytime we got the ends of a floor mat sucked up in it. The house would smell like burnt rubber for hours. It never took off because of beltless/bagless vacuum cleaners. That and it was made of wood, wingnuts, and suction cups lol.

Also a valve and pipeworks system that you could turn under your sink or bathtub to let waste water drain off into a container outside your house to reuse it.

[Jerry]

Post ideas you have which you think should be implemented into society and people can post their opinions and criticism on the ideas. I'll start it off

1.) Hi-Tech Bus Stops

2.) Public Work Areas

3.) Public Multi-Story Parks -

4.) Frictionless Trains -


6.) International Currency -

No.1. Goddamn yes, it's been on my mind for ages - every time I get a bus. It's so simple, as a concept, but I guess the expense of it rules that out.

2. I see where you're coming from but intense regulation would be needed for that to work - responsibility is a major issue there

3. Um....eh....no, no I don't think that's a good idea. Where will people park then?

4. Sounds pretty cool Those "walls" you talk about would be very expensive. Imagine the magnetic power needed to push a train around a corner.

5. Yeah maybe, I don't know to much about that really

6. Definitely not. For the Euro, the ECB runs interest rates. Those interest rates are set as what would be good for the EU on average, not each country alone. So what might be good for Italy might be bad for France etc. Now consider the huge disparity globally.
I mean the UK could've entered the Euro yonks ago but it hasn't. There are reasons for this.

Good thread though :thumbsup:

[PirateJoe]

1 has already been implemented in San Francisco, at least. There isn't a constantly updating map, just an estimated time of arrival, calculated from GPS' in the buses and traffic conditions. In conjunction with the paper map with all the routes, its pretty much the same thing.

[InspiredByMe]

Magnetic Trains already exist look up MagLev.

A fridge that has a touch computer and mini printer where the water output would be.

[vehicularmanslaughter]

Post ideas you have which you think should be implemented into society and people can post their opinions and criticism on the ideas. I'll start it off

1.) Hi-Tech Bus Stops

2.) Public Work Areas

3.) Public Multi-Story Parks

4.) Frictionless Trains

6.) International Currency

1 has been done in SF, but it is much better than your idea
2 is ridiculous. it would be way too overcrowded.
3 is actually an interesting idea. good place for dealing drugs.
4 has been done in japan or some stupid place.
6 has far too many reasons for being a bad idea.

[rabbitweed]

I honestly think it would pay to keep your ideas to yourself...I have a few, and I am pretty tight lipped about them.

If I get into postgrad, that's the time to talk.

[The Jitterskull]

I honestly think it would pay to keep your ideas to yourself...I have a few, and I am pretty tight lipped about them.

If I get into postgrad, that's the time to talk.

This is a good idea ^^
People will thieve ideas from anywhere, it's best to keep them to one's self.

Good thread though... but #6 is asking for Illuminati exploiting.

[SKUV]

This is a good idea ^^
People will thieve ideas from anywhere, it's best to keep them to one's self.

Good thread though... but #6 is asking for Illuminati exploiting.

No such thing as illuminati.....
>_>
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Anyways, I had an idea a few years ago before I knew shit about chemistry, and now that i've learned more I think it was a stupid idea, but i'll post it anyhow.



Basically there's a hole surrounded by a bunch of metal heating rod things. There is some dirt between the hole and the heating rods, so when they are heated it won't be directly heating the materials inside the hole. Instead the dirt will be heated, then the stuff inside the hole, hopefully not heating it enough to splode.

A bunch of plant matter gets dumped into the hole, and buried under some more dirt. Then it needs to be compacted downwards with lots of pressure, while at the same time it's being heated. The plant matter turns into oil, and is drained and syphoned out the bottom into a storage tank.



I figured back then that that is all it takes to make oil, lol. Just thinking about my idea now makes me :facepalm:

[SconeSnatcher]

Who are "they"?

Anyway, these all seem like social ideas, not scientifics ones, or practical applications of technologies already existing.

As for the magnetic train, I'm pretty these are being built in Germany and Japan.
"They" are the investors. People who would be willing to invest money into this shit. They're scientific social ideas.

[SconeSnatcher]

I built a thing that holds down the ends of mats or carpets that you put on hard wood floors and secures the ends to the floor with suction cups. The reason was because my vacuum would shit out a rubber belt everytime we got the ends of a floor mat sucked up in it. The house would smell like burnt rubber for hours. It never took off because of beltless/bagless vacuum cleaners. That and it was made of wood, wingnuts, and suction cups lol.

Also a valve and pipeworks system that you could turn under your sink or bathtub to let waste water drain off into a container outside your house to reuse it.
Fuckin cool. I had an idea involving suction cups a while back too. Suction cups for ladders so painters can secure their ladders to the wall to make the ladder falling sideways impossible. I thought it over though and it would only really work on certain walls it wouldn't work on say a red brick wall cuz theres gaps in between the bricks.

[Mantikore]

number 5 sounds a little too difficult to do.

first, the reason why its so dry in the sahara is because of the high air pressure there. No matter how much you water the ground, much of the water will still evaporate.
secondly, this mulitbillion dollar project is way too risky for any investor to contribute to.
thirdly, the amount of product you can sell by growing crops would be tiny compared to the amount of money required from skilled workers to build and maintain the systems. Remember, this thing is huge.


i have a few ideas, and i dont mind sharing this one:

basically, it involves free mobile phone calls and text. For every call you make, you basically listen to about 30 seconds to a minute of advertisements, and you get sent an advertisement for every text message you send. The cost of the call and stuff is covered by the advertisements. It wont be useful for people who use their phones a lot, but for the average person, free calls seem pretty good.

[SconeSnatcher]

No.1. Goddamn yes, it's been on my mind for ages - every time I get a bus. It's so simple, as a concept, but I guess the expense of it rules that out.


Yeah the reason I mentioned this one first is cuz I can picture the government going for this because it would make the city more high tech and futuristic. In my city they built these massive low cost housing buildings in an area near the airport just so it would make the city look more hi tech to people flying in. This area turned out to be one of the worst slums in the whole city so they ended up tearing down the high rises.

I'd say in the near future this will become economically feasible. Obviously they're not gonna have LCD screens mounted on the bustop I mean shitty little digital screens. The street map would be static the only thing moving would be the dot for the bus moving along the preset bus route.

[SconeSnatcher]

This is a good idea ^^
People will thieve ideas from anywhere, it's best to keep them to one's self.

Good thread though... but #6 is asking for Illuminati exploiting.
I personally don't give a crap who steals my ideas I just wanna see them become reality. I found out my Sahara desert idea is already being done but its insanely expensive. Thats mad that Japans building those levitating trains too holy fuck that was the idea I thought would be the hardest to pull off. Next step is levitating magnetic cars and magnetic highways. It'd be like the game Wipeout haha. You could setup anti crash devices too and stopping at red lights wouldn't be an optional thing. The road itself could magnetically prevent any cars from going through. This idea has so many things to take into consideration I doubt we're gonna see anything like this in the next 100 years. Then again who the fuck knows? I bet 100 years ago people woulda called you a lunatic for talking about computers and laser beams and microwaves etc.

Heres a drawing of that Sahara solar still idea
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Environment/Pix/pictures/2008/09/02/Sahara940x550.jpg
Its a fuckin good idea we just need to think of ways to make it economically feasible.

[SconeSnatcher]

basically, it involves free mobile phone calls and text. For every call you make, you basically listen to about 30 seconds to a minute of advertisements, and you get sent an advertisement for every text message you send. The cost of the call and stuff is covered by the advertisements. It wont be useful for people who use their phones a lot, but for the average person, free calls seem pretty good.

Googles already on it. Look up The Google Phone.

As for the Sahara thing yeah its a bit over the top. At the same time though the US spends billions of dollars on even more ridiculous things like anti ballistic shield thing. You know that project where they wanna be able to shoot missiles out of the sky before they ever reach US soil using satellites and electrical fields or some mad shit like that. Its a fuckin joke the amount of money that goes into ridiculous military projects.

[SconeSnatcher]

3 is actually an interesting idea. good place for dealing drugs.

Haha yeah. It'd be a haven for rapists too though so there'd have to be security guards patrolling and it'd have to close at night. At night it'd be a place for crackheads and bums to stay. You wouldnt wanna roam around in there at night.

[MunkeyQ]

basically, it involves free mobile phone calls and text. For every call you make, you basically listen to about 30 seconds to a minute of advertisements, and you get sent an advertisement for every text message you send. The cost of the call and stuff is covered by the advertisements. It wont be useful for people who use their phones a lot, but for the average person, free calls seem pretty good.
Sometime similar to that is actually in use in the UK already on a network called Blyk who hire towers from Orange.

You get a free SIM card and a certain number of free calls/texts in exchange for receiving a fixed number of adverts by text every day. Pretty good idea if, as you say, you don't make a whole lot of calls.

[JANUS]

You know those windows that can turn somewhat opaque at the flick of a switch?

How about a pane of glass like that, except the opaque substance is photovoltaic?

It would solve two problems at once. It would keep out the sun, and it would generate energy.

[bornkiller]

I have lots of awesome ideas when I'm stoned.
Anyone else have this great gift?

[vehicularmanslaughter]

I have lots of awesome ideas when I'm stoned.
Anyone else have this great gift?

sperm banks with hot ass robot chicks so you get to just go in there and fuck, then get paid a couple hundred bucks

[zuperxtreme]

1.) Hi-Tech Bus Stops - I think lots of cities have already implemented subtler ways of doing this. For a few bus lines here you can send a text message to some number with the address of where you are and it'll tell you aprox. how long the bus is going to take to arrive.

2.) Public Work Areas - Even though the intentions are good, I'm pretty sure big companies would find ways to exploit this. They could just do all their cleaning(for example) as a Public work area, meaning that dozens of people would lose their jobs to random strangers. And the companies would most likely not have to pay extra things to the government that they normally would.

3.) Public Multi-Story Parks - This doesn't sound like a very good idea. First off, it's going to be terribly humid. Mosquitoes will be abundant, most people won't have a view of the sky, which is probably one of the biggest reasons of going to a park(being away from buildings and just feeling a bit free), hobos and drug dealers will be in heaven, people will get mugged, etc.

4.) Frictionless Trains - Already done.

5.) Solar Still Network - As good as this probably sounds, desserts are part of the ecosystem of the Earth. You can't just terra form something and not expect consequences. Plus there's the whole problem with war lords and constant war in Africa, it most likely won't get off the ground until the whole surrounding area of the project is militarily controlled. Which will cause constant friction. Investors aren't going to put their money on something that will give them little benefit and high risks.

6.) International Currency - Too complex. You'd rape the world economy.
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Mine:

Remote computing( I can't really think of a name): What you'd basically have at home is a monitor, a device to communicate with the central mainframe and input devices. You could then just rent/or buy a portion of the mainframe and share with the rest of the users. Basically a computer over the Internet.

Pros:
-Cheap high-end computing. Since there's one machine shared across several users the costs are reduced.
- Instant sharing of files, no more uploading/downloading, it's all in the same array of hard drives, the only limit will be the read/write speed.
- Less waste of physical space. All you'd have is a monitor and your keyboard, mouse and speakers.
- Installation of a program/game by request would be instant. No more installations. Everything would be already on the mainframe, you'd just have to get clearance.
Cons:
- Your privacy would most likely be raped. Everything would be monitored. No pirating, no illegal anything.
- If the mainframe goes down, every pc goes down. Slave mainframes would probably be put in place, though.
- Hackers break into one mainframe, it's possible everything would be compromised.
- Latency. Internet would need to go into Turbo mode.


You could probably have your "partition" encrypted or something. Maybe a hard disk per person instead of logical partitions. I don't know.

[PirateJoe]

Remote computing( I can't really think of a name): What you'd basically have at home is a monitor, a device to communicate with the central mainframe and input devices. You could then just rent/or buy a portion of the mainframe and share with the rest of the users. Basically a computer over the Internet.
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Welcome to 1970. Also see cloud computing.

[zuperxtreme]

Yeah, but that's not the same. Cloud computing divides a common task among an array of computers. I mean one, or a few, centralized machines to do all the work and you just reap the result.

What do you mean about 1970? :confused:

EDIT: When did we get color text back? :D

[PirateJoe]

Yeah, but that's not the same. Cloud computing divides a common task among an array of computers. I mean one, or a few, centralized machines to do all the work and you just reap the result.

What do you mean about 1970? :confused:

EDIT: When did we get color text back? :D

Nah, you're thinking of cluster computing. Cloud computing is where you keep all your files/programs on a central server, and which you can then access and run from a separate client over the internet.

And, before the advent of personal computers, mainframe-style computing was the norm. My parents grew up using dumb terminals connected to mainframes.

[zuperxtreme]

Oh I see.

Well then I stand corrected. :p

[nuclearrabbit]

Uhhh... If I'm riding a train that's all magnety and shit... Can I still wear pants? The zipper wont rip off?

[InspiredByMe]

Uhhh... If I'm riding a train that's all magnety and shit... Can I still wear pants? The zipper wont rip off?

I feel like I shouldn't answer this...

The MagLev works due to repulsion of opposite poles of the magnet which are located on the bottom of the cart. They are also electrically connected and able to turn off.

[sexualjesus]

holy shit, i also thought of that mainframe idea you thought of zuper, my idea revolved around the same principle that tv signals use, a seperate signal gets sent out for each person logged in to a wireless graphics card plugged into a monitor, with usb ports for speakers and mouses and such, the idea is marvelous and could be implimented by a ginourmous powerhungry corporation like apple in the future so they charge loan rates like cable or internet, 40 for the month to use your computer rather then own it.

a bigger problem with this idea is the way tv signals go up is the one powerful signal goes to a satalite dish, which gets broadcasted randomly over a large area, which we all have antenna's to receive this one non unique signal, it would be impossible to send billions of different signals up especially at a speed fast enough so when the user clicks "A" the letter "A" comes on screen instantly.

having a wireless signal strong enough to send the 20gbps data that a graphics card produces would be albeit impossible, on the technical side of it the data between the mainframe and the receiver will be a humungous ammount, because it will be the same as the bus speed on our everyday computer, which is in the gigabite per second range, comparibly our wireless internet today is in the megabyte per second range, the best in australia reaches 20 megabytes per second.

sorry for the lack of full stops ive just been thinking about that for a while and its been bugging me. also the one idea ive always had my mind set on is the idea about a magnetic engine, turns out i just recreated a fucking electromagnetic engine, magnets are much much much too weak to pull a car and by doing the obvious and electromagnetising them to make them stronger weve just created the normal motor thats powering your fan or any electric car you see...

[Craigslist.org]

Post ideas you have which you think should be implemented into society and people can post their opinions and criticism on the ideas. I'll start it off

1.) Hi-Tech Bus Stops - I think bus stops especially busy inner city ones should have computer screens which show you the location of the bus on a little street map and tell you how many meters away the bus is so people have an idea how long it will take for the bus to arrive. I'd say buses already have GPS tracking devices to prevent them getting robbed so all they'd need to do is install baic digital screens and GPS recievers into the bus shelters.

2.) Public Work Areas - Places where anyone can just walk in, work for as many hours as they like, take their payment and leave. No CV's, no interviews no bullshit. Basically places that always have tasks which require absolutely no skill or experience. The workers would walk in, sign in with the reception, the reception then assigns tasks and decides how the worker will be payed. Obviously it would work by work done not hours. The public work place has a wide range of tasks which need to be done in a database and estimate how much each tasks is worth. The worker either takes it or leaves it. Some examples would be cleaning construction sites so the people with trades don't have to. Cleaning the streets. Digging holes for farmers or construction contractors. Working in mines. Any jobs which require no skill, experience and responsibility. Obviously they couldn't assign people to delivery jobs because they could rob the vehicle or goods. They wouldn't assign them jobs in commercial shops or warehouses. There are plenty of jobs that this would work for though.

3.) Public Multi-Story Parks - You know those multistory car parks with open walls? In densely populated inner city areas where the streets and parks are always packed its hard to find good spots to hang around. They could convert multistory car parks or build similar structures and reinforce the structure so it can withstand heavy weight. Then they line the floor with a few inches of soil, cover the place in grass seeds. Then they add overhead sprinklers, fluorescent lighting, benches, picnic tables. Then they could plant trees and plants and convert each floor into an indoor park where people can hang around. To reduce electrical costs they could setup reflectors to direct sunlight into the area. They could have little streams and waterfalls by setting up a pump/fountain on the top floor (roof) and setup canals flowing from floor to floor.

4.) Frictionless Trains - They could build highly coiled conductive canals which produce dense magnetic flux. The trains could be designed to be repelled from the conductive track to the extent that most of the friction is elimitated. In other words the train would be floating not rolling. They could setup walls which also repel the train to stop the train veering off the track.

5.) Solar Still Network - They should make a deal with Saharan African countries in which the rich countries provide the resources and the poor country provides the workers (who'd be more than happy to work for below our minimum wage) to setup a network of solar powered desalination plants along the Saharan coast. Then they setup networks of canals and solar powered pumps. The canals would be hooked up to reservoirs so once this thing gets going there will be large supplies of non saline water. That would be one of the benefits for the locals working on the project (clean drinking water isn't taken for granted in the Sahara). Once this water canal network and reservoirs are up and running then they build a hydroponic type system and setup a network of pipelines and sprinklers which will not only cover the area in water but it will add nutrients to the soil too. Soon enough this lifeless sand would become fertile and plants would start popping up left right and center. Once the lands fertile then they start planting fields of hot weather crops which strive in extremely sunny and hot environments and sooner or later this previously barren desert coastline would be covered in fields of valuable crops. On top of that all sorts of wild plants would start to inhabit the area and as a result the whole place would become way more inhabitable for animals and humans. They could setup small wildlife reserves and forests in the middle of the desert.

These fields would then be maintained by African farmers most of whom previously had no jobs and were in poverty. Considering the massive difference between the richest European countries and the poorest African countries there would be no complaints from either side. The Europeans could pay the farmers say 5 Euros an hour which is below minimum wage in any rich country. To the Africans this would be a high paying job and on top of their wages they get free drinking water and vegetables/herbs and are provided with housing built in the area. While the Africans couldn't be happier the Europeans would then be able to import the exotic crops which don't grow in Europe and sell them in Europe for normal prices and make a killing since the African farmers work for much less than any European would.

6.) International Currency - A currency which is accepted by every single country.

I love the bus stop idea and agree. Ive thought of something similar, in Vancouver we have digital clocks on alot of bus stops, it would be better if Telus in cooperation with translink made something like this, for their free work they could get advertising rights for the life of the gadget on all bus shelters.

Public Work Areas, would cut down on homelessness and crime. :thumbsup:

Multi story parks I like the ideas, I thought this would be good for farming too.
You can use snake sunlights to get light into each level. It would be great in Japan.

Solar Still Network:
Dont totally know what you meant there. but theres underground lines crossing continents for internet and phone service, why not underground lines providing solar energy from hot countrys to nearby countrys with dark climates. Like north africa or italy providing electricity to the uk. North africa could have loads of solar fields and under water pipes over to the uk

[Mantikore]

You know those windows that can turn somewhat opaque at the flick of a switch?

How about a pane of glass like that, except the opaque substance is photovoltaic?

It would solve two problems at once. It would keep out the sun, and it would generate energy.

i think the current technology of that opaque glass works completely differently to photo cells. One uses electrolyis to chemically change a substance, while the other uses doped semiconductors.

but of course, no one knows what the future may hold:thumbsup: