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Cock-Overdose
05-05-2009, 11:55 PM
I've already tried crushing rocket engiones and putting the powder in c02 cartridges to make little bombs, but what else can a minor get ahold of that'd be cool?

samguy700
05-06-2009, 12:08 AM
tried ap?(acetone peroxide)(youtube how to make it) pour some on 1 and 2 p coins then put a coin ontop and tape around it and leave them in the road throw them at the ground etc

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 12:30 AM
I want to make that but I don't know where to get the acid to catalize the acetone and hydrogen peroxide :(

InspiredByMe
05-06-2009, 12:55 AM
:facepalm: I was wondering when the kewls were gonna come.

I won't tell you just off the basis of principal.

But I will tell you this DO NOT USE METAL CASES YOU FRICKING RETARD!!!!

http://members.shaw.ca/gryphon223/consequences.html

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 01:10 AM
Yeah, because I'm really gonna be holding these things in my teeth and lighting them off. ;)
Don't be such a pussy.

InspiredByMe
05-06-2009, 01:14 AM
God damnit we need a mod. I'll just wait for another person to chew you out.

:picard: this thread.

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 01:24 AM
I'm getting a lot of "ghahh, I'm too good to explain myself, but I'll keep posting my mutters of discontentment" from you, but no suggestions. Either make yourself useful, or fuck off.

Dream of the iris
05-06-2009, 01:25 AM
Nitrated semen. Seriously.

Ed Lister
05-06-2009, 01:25 AM
I'm getting a lot of "ghahh, I'm too good to explain myself, but I'll keep posting my mutters of discontentment" from you, but no suggestions. Either make yourself useful, or fuck off.

Ha ha

Werd

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 02:20 AM
Nitrated semen. Seriously.

Youd have had better luck getting me to play with my spunk if you gave some instructions, faggot.

Dream of the iris
05-06-2009, 02:33 AM
Ok. Step one.

Go here: www.pornhub.com

Pick your favorite vid ( I like blowjob vids myself ;) )

Jack it, but make sure you aim for a container! :mad: Don't want any contaminants, although you could use pure cotton.

Next, get some potassium permanganate (you can find it in snake bite kits) and mix it with a healthy amount of glycerin ( you can easily find this in any pharmacy/Target/whatever). Add your spunk and your good to go! Mix well and heat slowly for about ten minutes. A stove should do fine, I wouldn't expect any nasty vapours.


Your nitrated semen is EXTREMELY explosive! It has an estimated VOD (velocity of detonation) of about 9000m/s and can be detonated easily with a flame, like peroxides. Great stuff, I've used it some in the past. Why waste all that useful jizz? :p There is actually a rumor that during WW2, when they were rationing materials, they discovered that using semen actually creates a powerful explosive. So, in an effort to save on resources, they started using nitrated semen, called, "Explosive spunk" in grenades and some of the bombs used in air raids. Along with the medical tests preformed on soldiers, it's rumored that new recruits actually were required to ejaculate in sample cups as part of their routine. Think about that for a second.

Your life giving seed actually could be used to destroy... Interesting.

asilentbob
05-06-2009, 02:33 AM
Our main suggestion is for you to fuck off. You obviously haven't thought about explosives very hard if all you can come up with is COBs and AP (and you think you can't even do that?)... You want to be spoon fed a text file basically... You want us to hold you hand and walk you through it, so that you can do it, but don't understand it and its potential...

Your so busy trying to find out if you can do something... that you haven't considered if you actually should do it... Its a lot like dinosaurs in Jurassic park... You didn't have to put in any real effort into learning things, so your very likely to fuck up. We don't want that, its bad publicity for pyro as a hobby.

You may be a minor, but your not helpless. Google indexes so much. Just learn to search and you shall receive... Everything. OTC sources for chemicals, thousands of top quality synthesis procedures for various explosives, and even pirated professional books on pyrotechnics and explosives. Its all there, and you don't really have to search that hard to find it.

The tried and true method of starting out in pyro without doing something incredibly stupid... is to start with smoke mix, learning to roll paper casings, then black powder and learning how to improve its performance and make blackmatch, spollettes, and stars with it and variations on it. And making dextrin... By this point you have all the skills and knowledge to make reliable fuse, rockets, fountains, smoke bombs, aerial shells, and more... Only using craft paper, glue, string, potassium nitrate, charcoal, sulfur, dextrin, and sugar. Somewhere around here you get interested in more energetic compositions, so you get the chems to make flash and play around with it a bit seeing just how pronounced various variables are on its performance. You have built a respect for its power and danger. NOW you are probably ready to make small amounts of primary explosives... and/or, a few more chemicals and metal powders later and every firework you have ever seen is suddenly so easy to make... and believe me aerial shells are fun to scale up to sizes much bigger than you would be able to buy at roadside firework stands.

^Many noobs have followed a course similar to this and they are mostly still around today. Avoid metal casings. Sure its better confinement... but there are compositions and explosives out there that will be just as loud as your COBs... when done with the same amounts in thin paper casings. No shrapnel risk. You can stand and watch it from closer range. You can feel the kick in your chest without having to cower behind a barrier.

Or you will become yet another kiddiot who made a few COBs, learned about AP or flash, and some time later ended up in the hospital because he thought he had mastered explosives, when all he mastered was following directions without really understanding fully what he was doing. There are thousands of stories along these lines, and many end up in newspapers... then soccer moms read them and call for increased restriction on chemicals... and this just repeats over and over again... today do you know what most people consider the scariest experience in college chemistry class? Lighting the bunsen burner. I kid you not. They say, fire is bad mmkay and the brainless masses believe them because of all the idiots who fuck up with it.

refugee
05-06-2009, 02:44 AM
http://zoklet.net/index.php/Molotov_Cocktail

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 02:50 AM
stuff

http://media.funlol.com/content/img/cool_story_bro.jpg


Our main suggestion is for you to fuck off.

Your pretentus douchebaggery have only accomplished all of one things=I will now start labeling all my c02 cartrrdges with "ZOKLET.NET" ;)
Sure I don't think I'm dumb enough to hurt myself but it'll be added fun knowing IF I do it'll come right back here as a final FUCK YOU for not just answering a coupel simple questions like a civilized fucking person.

Dream of the iris
05-06-2009, 03:12 AM
http://media.funlol.com/content/img/cool_story_bro.jpg





I was being serious :(

asilentbob
05-06-2009, 03:24 AM
Oh god. You must be blind too, that doesn't go well with pyro. Your question WAS answered.

Q:
what else can a minor get ahold of that'd be cool?

A:
Everything. OTC sources for chemicals, thousands of top quality synthesis procedures for various explosives, and even pirated professional books on pyrotechnics and explosives.
(...)
craft paper, glue, string, potassium nitrate, charcoal, sulfur, dextrin, and sugar.
(...)
more chemicals and metal powders
A:
blowjob vids
(...)
giving seed

A minor can get all that easy. And its all cool. What did you think those model rocket engines were made of anyways? Now instead of buying them for expensive and in very small amounts, you can make your own for cheap in bulk. Is that not cool? Kids these days, you take the time to try to help and they don't even pay attention...

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 03:29 AM
Kids these days, you take the time to try to help and they don't even pay attention...

You didn't help, you were a dick. You changed tuned as soon as I brought Zoklet.net into it.
And I steal my rocket engines anyways.

asilentbob
05-06-2009, 03:34 AM
It was all in my first reply. I didn't change anything, I'm still a dick. Your welcome. There, that was different.

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 03:40 AM
I'm glad we got that out of the way.

And Iris, if it helps, I wasn't being sarcastic about it being "cool" at least. Like hell if I'll believe it, though. :D

refugee
05-06-2009, 05:09 PM
yeah, a molotov will destroy something pretty nice, are you trying to blow something up or just destroy it?

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Destroy with explosives.
Molatovs just burn and flame, there is no explosion.

Barney'sDealer
05-06-2009, 08:58 PM
Why is everybody so fuckin' lazy and expect for the information to be spoon-fed to them.

Cock-Overdose
05-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Because you knowledgeable pyrotechnic types, for the most part, are pretentious pussies. Damned if you want to learn, damned if you don't.
You'll hate on newbs showcasing their trivial accomplishments, and you'll hate on a newb trying to learn anything, and you'll hate on any newb who doesn't know safety, and you'll bitch about them trying the crazy shit off google, and you'll bitch if they ask living individuals with experience for the basics.

Is this some case of hazing bullshit to weed out the trouble makers, or are you guys seriously so faggy that you'll keep the info to yourselves live your little contradictory bullshit lives?

InspiredByMe
05-06-2009, 11:33 PM
Because you knowledgeable pyrotechnic types, for the most part, are pretentious pussies. Damned if you want to learn, damned if you don't.
You'll hate on newbs showcasing their trivial accomplishments, and you'll hate on a newb trying to learn anything, and you'll hate on any newb who doesn't know safety, and you'll bitch about them trying the crazy shit off google, and you'll bitch if they ask living individuals with experience for the basics.

Is this some case of hazing bullshit to weed out the trouble makers, or are you guys seriously so faggy that you'll keep the info to yourselves live your little contradictory bullshit lives?

1. What accomplishments? You blew up a metal casing or tried to with some pre-made powder that you probably don't even know the composition of all while risking your life because your dumb enough to use a metal casing.
2. We will hate on someone who can't even learn basic safety, doesn't have common sense and will bitch even after he is given a 6 paragraph post explaining to him what he should think about before doing pyro and answering his question. Yes that is all true, we were all kewls once and yet we learned and you show no promises of doing that anytime soon.
3. PROTIP: Google is our friend.
4. Basics? No you came in hear only wanting to blow stuff up without even considering risks or learning how an explosive works.
5. Hazing? Yes actually and you are a trouble maker.

I would proceed to lock this thread but I'm not a mod nor do we have one.

Syphilis
05-06-2009, 11:34 PM
Ammonium nitrate.

Nitroglycerin.

Dynamite.

Gunpowder.

Napalm.

asilentbob
05-06-2009, 11:42 PM
Its the internet, its an open door policy. All the info is there, we couldn't "hide" it if we wanted to.

We weed out the noobs by telling them to search. If they seriously can't find it ON THE INTERNET, that place that now contains pretty much everything in an easy to search structure... Then they are possibly beyond saving.

If your wanting a list of explosives... TRY GOOGLING "list of explosives"... I shit you not, it is that easy.

Cock-Overdose
05-07-2009, 12:19 AM
To InspiredByME
1. I never said I accomplished anything--and if you took that for a a claim of "accomplishment" then I also openly admitted it was trivial.
2. Well mybe tell me what basic safety I should follow before you go biting my ass off.
3. I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSOXKSifz1w&NR=1 but he doesn't explain how to make them and thats what I really really want to be doing.
This sounds easy to make but I can't bu8y black powder yet
http://fringe.davesource.com/Fringe/Explosives/pipebomb.txt
This one seems really cheap, but I have to wait till nearer the fourth of july to buy sparklers.
http://www.forcefighters.com/public/forum/index.php?topic=661.0

4. Okay, now that we got that out of the way, maybe you could go into detail on those points, rather than nag me to death?
5. Well this hazing is stupid you're gonna run off any potentially good members, ass. I don't make trouble it's just how the cops interpret it since 9/11.

I would proceed to lock this thread but I'm not a mod nor do we have one.
I'm glad you got that off your chest. I would proceed to jump the grand cvanyon on a motorcycle, but I'm not a talanted daredevil, nore do I have a motorcycle.


Its the internet, its an open door policy. All the info is there, we couldn't "hide" it if we wanted to.

We weed out the noobs by telling them to search. If they seriously can't find it ON THE INTERNET, that place that now contains pretty much everything in an easy to search structure... Then they are possibly beyond saving.

If your wanting a list of explosives... TRY GOOGLING "list of explosives"... I shit you not, it is that easy.

On totse, people would shit brix when a "kewl" googled stuff without knowing how it works. I'm skipping the emotionless never changing text files spread about the internet by asking living people........ but that's frowned on ALSO. I don't need to know the names of explosives anyways just how to maek them. I found lots of instructions of the internet also but they're need chemicals that I can't get because I am a minor.

InspiredByMe
05-07-2009, 12:38 AM
We do not call them "bombs" hear, in fact that word was forbidden on totse. If all you want to know is how to make them and not how they work then you are not doing it right, trust me you will want to learn and you might find it exciting. Otherwise it will bite you in the back later on in life.

There are thousands upon thousands of chemicals that are OTC, if you want them lab grade then google but for everything else http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/chemicals/

The vid on youtube was shit (enter another metal casing :rolleyes:). He is using gunpowder and the cases were used to make the noise. The txts you referred to were also shit. The words pipe bomb and "fun for the family" do NOT mix. If you want to do this right lurk more. Stay away from the bomb sites and look for the scientific ones. The txt files on ToTSE were shit also.

Have you had any chemistry courses?

If you want to proceed in this hobby forget everything you know now. No I am not going to tell you, you will have to do what most of us here did learn on your own. We do not spoonfeed.

Cock-Overdose
05-07-2009, 12:46 AM
I dont need to understand how chemicals bond to each other to get them to bond and that is boring anyways. I want quick and cheap because I dont have lots of time studying how to make nuclear weapoins and I can't order online anyways.
It shouldn't be this hard to get some simple answers on how to blow up small things like garden gnomes. You take all the fun out of bombs(this isn't totse) with your nitpicking faggotry.

asilentbob
05-07-2009, 04:17 AM
TOTSE BB forum was never quick fun with bombs. The textfiles were there against the wishes of the BB forum regulars... Including the mods. Believe me we tried many times to get Jeff to take them down, or at least replace the completely crap ones with something else... There was even an effort to put a text file up that pointed out the few text files there that were pretty much accurate...

The forum description here will change very soon to take out "weapons" and when we get a mod the forum will be mostly a BB clone. We pretty much have a description set and Zok just hasn't got around to updating it quite yet. Honestly I don't know why you didn't post this in bad ideas in the first place. A mod would move it, but we don't have one. :D

If all you want is faggotry involving idiots (who often fuck up) preaching shit they don't understand about leet bombs (that they heard from some one else who doesn't understand, who ultimately heard it from a pissed off hippy who was on drugs and mad at the government), go to rotteneggs, or anarchistcookbook forums or whatever the hell it is. You will find it in abundance. I'm sure googling something along the lines of "cheap leet homemade bombs" would turn up the kind of thing your looking for...

The definitions as most experienced pyros see them:
Bombs are not fun. A bomb is an explosive device of some kind which the user intends to use to kill, maim, destroy some one elses property, etc. IE its a bad idea. Its the kinda thing that tends to lead to prison and being someone's bitch... OR if you are under 18 you end up having a harder time getting jobs, loans, into schools, etc in the future... And if you somehow miraculously escape from having trouble in those areas... You get this stigmata about you being some kind of terrorist. And your friends (or enemies) will continue to bring it up over and over again, and somehow it always seems to happen right when a police officer or school official is walking by. Because bombs/killing/destruction of others property/etc = terrorist/anarchist/trouble... The exception is smoke bombs, which are harmless.

A firework is festive. An explosive device/charge is ambiguous, it could be used to break rock, cut pipe, pure experimentation, amusement, etc... IE hey lets test to see how high an ouch of black powder will throw that anvil! Or hey I wonder how big of a dent 200g of [insert explosive here] will put in that 1/2" steel plate! Or hey, I wonder what effect various lifting charges will have on this gas fireball! Its fun and understanding what you are doing makes it more safe. Not safe like hey lets just stand here and hold sparklers, safe like hey, yeah lets det a few Kg of some explosive over there, but wear safety glasses and know what we are messing with so we don't fuck up and die.

You can order chemicals online, its not that big of a deal... So long as your parents trust you to not fuck up. If your parents don't trust you, it might be for a good reason. I have ordered almost all my chemicals online aside from charcoal, sulfur, dextrin, and boric acid which I found OTC. I would have gotten potassium nitrate OTC too, but I found a good deal online for 50lbs and jumped on it. My parents even got me a nice book about amateur manufacture of fireworks, and bought me chemicals before I was 18 as a birthday present and a few more times before I was 21. If they trust you, and you can explain what you intend to do, its not that big of a deal.

Your obviously pissed off at us... Fine. If you leave here being pissed off... Fine. I'd suggest coming back after taking high school chemistry at the least, you might realize that it is directly applicable to explosives and learning about all kinds of explosives helps you learn chemistry concepts. And when you get to high school chemistry, ask the professor to show and explain some pyrotechnic reactions... Ask him to do some demos, etc.

Cock-Overdose
05-09-2009, 04:22 AM
This thread got boring, but I think it might be worth one more laugh to say that I'm actually 21 and know a lot more about pyro than I let on. I have made my own comps, and I strongly prefer carboard tubes for casings(less than lethal, and they're so much fun to glue :D). Destruction's never been a goal of mine, I just like to hear bangs.
That's not to claim I am anywhere near as knowledgeable as most of the regulars in this board, I just remember from totse how touchy you guys were when a kewl wandered in, and I wanted to get a rise out of ya'll. Thanks for the lulz.

asilentbob
05-09-2009, 04:41 AM
Things like this will make me only post 1 line replies some day. :( Not cool to drag it out brah.

EDIT:
http://i44.tinypic.com/e25ph.jpg
Because we are striving to add more media to our posts.

Cock-Overdose
05-09-2009, 05:03 AM
Well it was appreciated. At least now you've got practice on how to deal with the next kidiot? ;)

zuperxtreme
05-09-2009, 05:07 AM
Anarchist cookbook :thumbsup:

LastHand
05-09-2009, 06:01 AM
Well it was appreciated. At least now you've got practice on how to deal with the next kidiot? ;)

This is not a place of quick and easy explosives. Safety is number one. Safety can only be gained through knowledge. Knowledge can only be gained over time. We all start at square one.

Wreck3
05-09-2009, 02:19 PM
This is not a place of quick and easy explosives. Safety is number one. Safety can only be gained through knowledge. Knowledge can only be gained over time. We all start at square one.

Im intrigued, until now i thought all there was 2 pyrotechnics was correct ratios, where could I start to learn the basics ?????

Cock-Overdose
05-09-2009, 04:28 PM
This is not a place of quick and easy explosives. Safety is number one. Safety can only be gained through knowledge. Knowledge can only be gained over time. We all start at square one.

I like how you didn't pay attention to this thread, you can suck my dick. :)

nuclearrabbit
05-10-2009, 12:53 AM
Nitrated semen. Seriously.

Uhhh.... We tried it.... Well, nitrox did....

Death Snuggle
05-10-2009, 12:54 AM
....Ammonium tri-iodine....

Do it... now...

InspiredByMe
05-10-2009, 01:10 AM
....Ammonium tri-iodine....

Do it... now...

First off it's Nitrogen Tri-Iodide and second do not do it.

Cock-Overdose
05-10-2009, 01:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KlAf936E90

That's actually really cool, but I can't imagine any reason why I'd want to make it.
It looks too powerful to be used in any sort of joking manner, which is the only thing I can think something so sensitive could have a use in.

Death Snuggle
05-10-2009, 01:22 AM
First off it's Nitrogen Tri-Iodide and second do not do it.

I couldn't tell you the upside of down right now... Or does that even make sense?

Trolling and drugs just don't mix... lol

Glosette
05-25-2009, 05:36 AM
Anarchist cookbook :thumbsup:

You sound lazy, so this.

Ihaveafatcock
05-28-2009, 11:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KlAf936E90

That's actually really cool, but I can't imagine any reason why I'd want to make it.
It looks too powerful to be used in any sort of joking manner, which is the only thing I can think something so sensitive could have a use in.

your user name is awesome