So who's never had a girlfriend?

[Jordan]

I haven't. From a toddler I was raised in a Fundamental Baptist church. I was taken to church every Sunday morning and night and Wednesday nights. I also went to the private school at the church.

After 7th grade we moved 30 minutes away to a rich suburban area.

Before 7th grade I started feeling sick on a daily basis and recently they found out I have Crohns. So pretty much ever since I got out of private school I've been pretty sick and confused. And I was never great looking, but the Crohns definitely made things worse. (can't gain any weight, bad skin, ect)

I'm now in 11th grade. :o

[Lobo]

Holy crap , I remember you posting similar thread(s) on totse.

Ive been a whore ever since I was 12 and have had alot of girlfriends , its not hard bro.

Just do it.

[Ghst0p]

I haven't... it fucking sucks.

[Cliche Guevara]

ive had a few, the last one I managed to break up with HER, (instead of the always, other way around scenario, it was pwn)

[Jordan]

Holy crap , I remember you posting similar thread(s) on totse.

Ive been a whore ever since I was 12 and have had alot of girlfriends , its not hard bro.

Just do it.

I'm really in a bad place right now. My family is straight up middle class and everyone else is filthy rich. Everyone is very clickish and if you don't have money then you're fucked.

I honestly think I will have a girlfriend when the doctors finally give me something to help me feel better. :bluesad:

[Silverfuck]

It might be because you can't differentiate between 'your' and 'you're.' :p

On a serious note, I know so many guys who are your age or older who don't have girlfriends and haven't had any in the past, but who are totally dateable guys. The number one mistake guys make is thinking that if they haven't had a girlfriend or had sex or whatever by age X, then something's wrong with them, and because there's something apparently so wrong with them, they get this complex about girls and think that getting one is some insurmountable task.

Relationships and sex are nice, but they happen organically, and when you least expect it, and trying to gauge what's normal or what you're supposed to have done if dooming yourself to failure.

[Jordan]

The number one mistake guys make is thinking that if they haven't had a girlfriend or had sex or whatever by age X, then something's wrong with them, and because there's something apparently so wrong with them, they get this complex about girls and think that getting one is some insurmountable task.


The fact that I've never had a girlfriend and I'm 16 doesn't bother me. I've never really been able too so I don't blame myself. I'm not self conscious, but at the same time I'm aware of who I am.

[Silverfuck]

The fact that I've never had a girlfriend and I'm 16 doesn't bother me. I've never really been able too so I don't blame myself. I'm not self conscious, but at the same time I'm aware of who I am.

That's a good attitude to have.

My post was intended to be pretty general though; it kills me to see perfectly lovely guys developing crazy complexes because they haven't met the right girl by a certain age.

[Jordan]

Now that I think about it, I haven't made any real friends since I've moved. And I know it's not that I'm an asshole or anti-social, I look to hang out with people every chance I get. And it's not that I don't try, but I don't over do it and annoy the hell out of someone. It's almost like you have to join a group and can't just be friends with one person at a time.

[SomeLowLife]

I haven't. From a toddler I was raised in a Fundamental Baptist church. I was taken to church every Sunday morning and night and Wednesday nights. I also went to the private school at the church.

After 7th grade we moved 30 minutes away to a rich suburban area.

Before 7th grade I started feeling sick on a daily basis and recently they found out I have Crohns. So pretty much ever since I got out of private school I've been pretty sick and confused. And I was never great looking, but the Crohns definitely made things worse. (can't gain any weight, bad skin, ect)

I'm now in 11th grade. :o
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[Jordan]

http://www.mattandleighann.com/gallery/d/2277-1/nelson_simpsons.gif

I don't think I've ever watched a full episode of the Simpsons.

[Rocko]

I haven't, but I don't have any excuses like religious nutjob schooling or illnesses. Apparently I'm just a thoroughly unappealing person.

[SomeLowLife]

I don't think I've ever watched a full episode of the Simpsons.

You should have titled this thread, "Reasons I suck".

[Jordan]

You should have titled this thread, "Reasons I suck".

This.

The thread was intended to be people giving their excuses as to why they have never had a girlfriend. Oh well. :(

[aliveupboy]

How the fuck does a thread get stars? And why does this thread have 5 of them?

[zuperxtreme]

I've only had one. The one I'm with now(2 years going).

She's my first... everything. Love, kiss, sex, everything.

When it ends shit is going to suck hard.

[Marquis In Spades]

i havent yet and im 18 i dont really try to get one tho and i really couldent care less i have more import stuff on my mind like art and music and trying to get famouse ok joking whatever.

[AnalHerpes]

I'm 20, no excuses, it just never happened.

Although I have become kind of frigid over the last two or three years (I'm a guy, by the way).

[Obelisk]

I don't think I've ever watched a full episode of the Simpsons.

http://www.mattandleighann.com/gallery/d/2277-1/nelson_simpsons.gif

[PirateJoe]

19, never had a girlfriend. I suspect that it is the reason I'm slowly dying on the inside.

[Cliche Guevara]

try craigslist guys.
ihear girls on craiglists get 100s of replies though...

[Marquis In Spades]

19, never had a girlfriend. I suspect that it is the reason I'm slowly dying on the inside.

aww it happens to all of us who dont have gfs yet itll just take some time getting used to it

[samguy700]

I've only had one. The one I'm with now(2 years going).

She's my first... everything. Love, kiss, sex, everything.

When it ends shit is going to suck hard.

i think this is written by a guy who is in that situation i copied it off the confessions section of gumtree.com
I dont care if you read this, you already know this. I have already told you this but...

Nobody will ever love you like I do. Losing you is going to be the worst thing that has ever happened to me. If I could turn back the time and change whatever I've done wrong I would. I would lose everything I own just to be with you. 

I'd live on the streets, cleaning toilets for £5 an hour if it meant you would not move out. I'm still not entirely sure what I have done wrong. If I am making life hard for you that much you dump me then I'm sorry. I really am. What cuts me up more than losing you is knowing that it is me, that has done it. 

I have never hit you, cheated on you, stole from you or even asked you to do anything bad for me. My only sin is that I get mad and sulky sometimes. 

I have loved you since we were both at school. We lost our cherries together and even though you cheated on me numerous times I understood it was part of growing up. You had/have such a hold on me I'd do anything for you.

I don't know why I am posting this on here. But I was sitting at my desk thinking about it and felt the need to just spill it out. I know that you know all this so none of it is new. But I love you and I will always love you.

Nobody will ever love you as much as I do. I wanted to grow old with you, I really did. You are a part of me. It will be like losing a limb. There's about 100 songs that I will never be able to listen to again without getting a lump in my throat remembering you. And for fucks sake they are all my favourite songs. I'm going to have to delete most of my Ipod. 

I really hope that over time I get over you as my life will be so hard otherwise. So hard. Whoever you love next will love you back I am sure of that. But they will never love you how I do. I love you deeper than anyone else that has ever walked this earth and you will never forget that. 

You may find someone that makes you happy and I really hope you do. I will not stand in the way of this. But if they ever hurt you I will hurt them. Even though you are not with me I will be your guardian angel. I will look after you whether you like it or not. You are my best friend. the best friend a guy could ever wish for. And though you have decimated my heart I will always make sure you are safe. 

You are a sensible girl and a clever friendly, gorgeous person. You will be happy, and though it kills me that its not with me I will have to accept that.

I love you, I always will.




but siriously dude that is gonna suck ass cus whenever you think of sex kissing etc there will be nothing you can do but think about it with this girl

[never]

Step 1.
Stop pitying yourself.

[Marquis In Spades]

you know the saying nothing gold can stay

[Yggdrasil]

In my experience, the inability of a guy to get a girl largely because of physical differences, case in point:

Up until the age of 12, I was on a low social rung. I wasn't disliked, but I didn't have as many friends as I'd like, and I couldn't get a girl. I wasn't even nasty of unfriendly, I guess I just didn't dress/look well. Well, at 13, I got pretty tired of the same mundane quotidian bullshit. I bought myself the nicest in brand clothing, changed my hairstyle, and all the usual minutiae of appearance. Soon after, I had many more friends than before, and I had myself a girl as well.

I don't know if it's a testament to the shallow nature of human sociality, but it has shown to me that appearance is paramount. The girl, and others, always remarked on how I was friendlier and more jovial, which is absolute horseshit. I was the same as before, just that they perceived me better due to my reformed appearance.

I don't mean to stereotype women, though. It's just that in my experience, things tend to play out like this routinely.

[akiratheoni]

"the game" by neil strauss should be your bible then :)

[skinny love]

In my experience, the inability of a guy to get a girl largely because of physical differences, case in point:

Up until the age of 12, I was on a low social rung. I wasn't disliked, but I didn't have as many friends as I'd like, and I couldn't get a girl. I wasn't even nasty of unfriendly, I guess I just didn't dress/look well. Well, at 13, I got pretty tired of the same mundane quotidian bullshit. I bought myself the nicest in brand clothing, changed my hairstyle, and all the usual minutiae of appearance. Soon after, I had many more friends than before, and I had myself a girl as well.

I don't know if it's a testament to the shallow nature of human sociality, but it has shown to me that appearance is paramount. The girl, and others, always remarked on how I was friendlier and more jovial, which is absolute horseshit. I was the same as before, just that they perceived me better due to my reformed appearance.

I don't mean to stereotype women, though. It's just that in my experience, things tend to play out like this routinely.

i think you have to keep in mind the importance of perception. when you start dressing nicer and put some effort into your appearance, people view you as a lot more confident and sharp. the confidence combined with the fresh and improved look is probably what made you more social- not necessarily the superficiality of others.

[Marquis In Spades]

"the game" by neil strauss should be your bible then :)

no offence but yeah ive read that book its shite sorry to say or mabey ijust read it wrong but its still pretty gay it seems to turn women in objects and shit like that

[Yggdrasil]

i think you have to keep in mind the importance of perception. when you start dressing nicer and put some effort into your appearance, people view you as a lot more confident and sharp. the confidence combined with the fresh and improved look is probably what made you more social- not necessarily the superficiality of others.

Most likely, yes. Self-perception is expressed not only inwardly but outwardly as well. I still feel that to some, by changing my appearance, in effect looking more like them, I have lowered their hostility and dislike towards me.

[Nefret]

Lulz. I'm a girl, straight, and even I've had a girlfriend. Fail.

On a serious note, don't sweat it. It'll just make you insecure and then probably wait longer till you find someone because you act awkward.

[Made in England]

Shag a fatty

[Jordan]

I bought myself the nicest in brand clothing, changed my hairstyle, and all the usual minutiae of appearance.


That's exactly what I don't want to do. I rather not feel like I have to conform to fit it. I'm not saying I'm against change, I've changed a lot I feel that's been for the better over the past years. You shouldn't have to change your style to fit in. (unless your just a fucking mess like I was my first year of public school)

[Jordan]

Step 1.
Stop pitying yourself.

I don't. I'm don't regret anything that's happened to me. I wouldn't be the same without the circumstances that has come into my life. Maybe I just don't understand people well, but I pity those who feel they have to dress and act a certain way to fit in with a certain group.

[zuperxtreme]

......

but siriously dude that is gonna suck ass cus whenever you think of sex kissing etc there will be nothing you can do but think about it with this girl

Yes. I know it's going to suck, but I'm not that much of a push over. I do love her more than anything, but I will not stand cheating. Hell, we've talked about this with her.

I don't know how to explain it. There's this sort of feeling where you can see how something is going to go wrong and cause it's end. But with her I don't see it... I understand that my view point is very biased, but the only way I see us breaking up(in the near future) is that we either cheat or we get tired of each other.

So far so good. I've never even hugged another girl for the two years I've been with her, Well, not in a sexual way at least, and we have loads of fun together.

My mentality is(and hopefully always will be) to cherish the moment and live in the present. I understand that everything has it's end, I just don't want to think about it for now. :)

[Cegstar]

I've never told my parents about one before.

[Intoxicated Shaman]

My longest relationship was 2 weeks and the furthest I got was less than half a minute of tongue. Fuck I'm pathetic.

Oh, and I turn 18 in a couple days.

[Mankonaut X]

Relationships and sex are nice, but they happen organically, and when you least expect it, and trying to gauge what's normal or what you're supposed to have done if dooming yourself to failure.

Everyone says that, "when you least expect it". I've been un-expecting it for years now, and I still gots the no pussy blues. I even spell 'your' correctly and everything :(

[stupid1]

OP, you are a stupid faggot, I dearly hope you die, for the world would be a much better place without you. :)

[aliveupboy]

Everyone says that, "when you least expect it". I've been un-expecting it for years now, and I still gots the no pussy blues. I even spell 'your' correctly and everything :(

You've probably got a bad case of the uglies. I recommend wearing a constant mask. It might work. :)

[Cegstar]

You've probably got a bad case of the uglies. I recommend wearing a constant mask. It might work. :)

Ugly doesn't matter.

[Giggles The Panda]

Im 17 and Ive never had a girlfriend. I have tried, granted not very hard, but I am certainly not opposed to the idea. Im not exactly depressed about not having one though.

[yoplait]

"Who's never had a girlfriend?" Two pages, lol. Relationships are overrated. I've had two boyfriends and I couldn't stand either of them.

[twenty four seven]

Holy crap , I remember you posting similar thread(s) on totse.

Ive been a whore ever since I was 12 and have had alot of girlfriends , its not hard bro.

Just do it.

THIS.

QFMFT.

[Actor]

20, never had one nether. Why I don't know, anxiety i guess. Eiether that, or lack of alcohol/valium/xanax. I'm starting to think I was put here to make othees feel better about thier lives.

[aliveupboy]

"Who's never had a girlfriend?" Two pages, lol. Relationships are overrated. I've had two boyfriends and I couldn't stand either of them.

lol... Get a boyfriend you like?

[dreiman]

Wow.

[redhead]

Never had a boyfriend, simply acquaintance with benefits,

[skinny love]

lol... Get a boyfriend you like?

easier said than done... i think that applies to both sexes. people change and you realize the only reason you liked them in the first place is cuz you imagined that they were someone that theyre really not. but maybe thats just me.

[blackflagnirvana]

My longest relationship was like a week but I got sex lulz

And other shit from girls that aren't my g/f but were just sluts

And I'm 18 how pathetic oh well at least I'm not a V

[aliveupboy]

easier said than done... i think that applies to both sexes. people change and you realize the only reason you liked them in the first place is cuz you imagined that they were someone that theyre really not. but maybe thats just me.

No it doesn't apply to both sexes. At least not in this case. A hot girl (like yoplait) could have her pick out of thousands of guys. They would all gladly be with her. Out of those thousand guys she should just pick one that she likes. Its not rocket science.

Guys on the other hand have to find a girl they like, and then hope to god shes single, and that she also likes him.

[Illegal Immigrant]

Damn man that sucks for you.


I really doubt you have that disease. Its just hypochondria.

I suggest you have some beers and watch a fucking episode of the Simpsons. It will be really good for you. Might teach you some thing about life.

...

As for myself i have had plenty of girlfriends and am quite fucking good looking. Been in love and been heartbroken. My life hasn't been the best but Ive had so many good times and have seen so many crazy things. I wouldn't trade my life for anything.

[Bender]

This is the saddest fucking thread I ever seen. :frown:

I'm sorry.

[aliveupboy]

I wouldn't trade my life for anything.

Not even for a space ship?

[yoplait]

easier said than done... i think that applies to both sexes. people change and you realize the only reason you liked them in the first place is cuz you imagined that they were someone that theyre really not. but maybe thats just me.
This goes for me, too. Most of the time what I like about people is just the fantasy image I have of them in my head.

[dreiman]

There's no way I can love a human, I must have an IDEAL.
I used to have an angel.

[-Usernam ['e_e'] manresU-]

me...


it's eating me up inside. The few tries I had I screwed up completely beyond fixing. It feels like a never ending cycle for me because I try every single day, and it gets me down every single day, then I try to boost my ego a bit and get the courage to try all over again tommorow, then I fail again, start feeling down, boost my ego and try again.....


while everyone around me is getting girls left and right... fuck.

[Zip]

On a serious note, I know so many guys who are your age or older who don't have girlfriends and haven't had any in the past, but who are totally dateable guys.

Then why haven't you dated them? Your friends?

I think an appropriate analogy is something like "do as I say, not as I do." Most women I know are the same, men tend to have more realistic expectations and are generally more accepting of character faults, at least in western culture. I don't mean to disparage, but it's hard not to be cynical. Women appear patently dishonest concerning the type of people they are willing to date.

Now that I can afford to be selective, I no longer date anyone under 20 nor will I consider a relationship. I'm much happier because of it.

[Bender]

There's no way I can love a human, I must have an IDEAL.
I used to have a dolphin.

Fixed.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

I'm 18, I havent had a girlfriend, and I couldnt give a fuck at all, because these days I have a fun, stable open mind and can clearly see how limiting the 'long term relationships' that my peers are in are.


*Rides the mystical winds of music into the sunset...*

[Someone9]

I feel your pain. I've never had a girlfriend either and I'm 22. I'm really attractive but girls never talk to me that much. They seem to only like guys who are confident and huge jerks. Sometimes I feel like giving up and shooting myself.

[Thecosmicexplosion]

You fools, your number one mistake is placing value on "having" a girlfriend. There is no such thing as "having" someone, if you wish to have a real relationship you need to let it develop through love and caring not placing the label "girlfriend" on it. I myself have never had a girlfriend, I have had many lovers however and each of those relationships has taught me more than dating anyone exclusivly could have.
There is nothing pathetic about never having a girlfriend or being a virgin, you all sound so pathetic by saying "at least I'm not a virgin". Maybe if you focused on bettering yourself, learning to radiate beauty, love and kindness you would find yourselves in more situations where women actually DESIRE to spend time with you instead of feeling like they are "having" to.

[Mankonaut X]

This thread makes my penis soft :(

[Illegal Immigrant]

Not even for a space ship?



It would have to be one pretty kick ass space ship. with like teleportation or time travel or something.

[Agent 008]

I haven't been looking for one, and I don't really want one right now.

I mean, having guaranteed sex would be good, but apart from that I don't have a need for one. I'm enjoying my freedom and have enough responsibilities, and don't feel like taking responsibility for someone else at the moment.

[Silverfuck]

Then why haven't you dated them? Your friends?

I think an appropriate analogy is something like "do as I say, not as I do." Most women I know are the same, men tend to have more realistic expectations and are generally more accepting of character faults, at least in western culture. I don't mean to disparage, but it's hard not to be cynical. Women appear patently dishonest concerning the type of people they are willing to date.

Now that I can afford to be selective, I no longer date anyone under 20 nor will I consider a relationship. I'm much happier because of it.

I haven't dated them because I've had a steady boyfriend for the last three years. I don't have many female friends because I can't pretend to like One Tree Hill and shopping for more than five minutes, but the ones I do have are either in committed relationships, or just as insecure and lacking in confidence as the guys who haven't had girlfriends yet.

[Dream of the iris]

My situation is kind of weird. I'm 20 years old and even though I've had girlfriends its hard for me to consider them real relationships. I talk to so many people who have been with their girlfriends for years and the longest I've ever been with someone was about a month. I honestly don't know why but I have a hard time keeping relationships either because I fall out of "like" with them or because of something I did. It's not that I don't get along with Women or that I'm ugly or that I'm socially awkward. It's just that 99 percent of the girls I meet are barely worth 5 seconds of my time. They have the worst personalities and the strangest character flaws which allows me to only tolerate them long enough to get into their pants. Once in a blue moon someone would come by who is worth the time and effort to go out with, but some how something screws up and it pisses me off every time because deep down I know it will be years before I find another one that I can potentially settle down with.

[Bender]

EDIT ^^^ Lol you sound like a whiny self serving prick. Sounds like you need to find someone as arrogant as you. ;)

I'm 16. I've had a few GF's most of them not serious enough to say they were my girl friend. But i've had 2 long relationships. They ended well. I've done some crazy stupid shit. To be honest some people like me, who have many relationships sometimes wish they could just not be involved with it anymore. You know a break from the drama bullshit.

[2009/10 is really GAY]

24. NEVER had a gf. You're batter off going SOLO in life anyway.

[freeRadical]

Aaahh, 449. Your pitiful existence never ceases to bring a smile to my face. :)

[blackflagnirvana]

manresU-;35167"]me...


it's eating me up inside. The few tries I had I screwed up completely beyond fixing. It feels like a never ending cycle for me because I try every single day, and it gets me down every single day, then I try to boost my ego a bit and get the courage to try all over again tommorow, then I fail again, start feeling down, boost my ego and try again.....


while everyone around me is getting girls left and right... fuck.

Yea man it sucks. Although I think that your perception that everyone else is getting girls left and right.....well they might have girls but its not like those came easy.

You just have to forget about the times you failed since that happens to everyone, and know it can only go up from here. If you don't try, you'll be some self pitying bitch who slits their wrists. If do try, you will fail a few times but eventually you'll have to succeed. And then when you look back at a time where you failed you can say "I gave it my best shot so WTF else can I do?" Kind of disappointing but better than "fuck that girl was hitting on me and I fucked it up by not doing anything I'm an idiot :mad::mad:"

[k4aic]

I haven't. From a toddler I was raised in a Fundamental Baptist church. I was taken to church every Sunday morning and night and Wednesday nights. I also went to the private school at the church.

After 7th grade we moved 30 minutes away to a rich suburban area.

Before 7th grade I started feeling sick on a daily basis and recently they found out I have Crohns. So pretty much ever since I got out of private school I've been pretty sick and confused. And I was never great looking, but the Crohns definitely made things worse. (can't gain any weight, bad skin, ect)

I'm now in 11th grade. :o

not too be too personal here, but do you have the ostomy bag? My dad has crohns and he had to get a colostomy bag....

which he says can interfere with your sex life, but he seems to be doing ok. And now a days there is a lot they can do for that... there is some uppy clinic in chicago that deals with crohns either way that wouldnt stop me, ya know. You are who you are and if people dont like it then fuck them..they are the ones missing out!

[wires]

Guys with girlfriends don't suddenly stop being miserable and everything's great. It's okay not to have had a girlfriend yet, whatever your age. It will happen when you have the confidence to tell that inner 'knot' inside you to shut up, because girls aren't everything. It's about you first.

[Jordan]

not too be too personal here, but do you have the ostomy bag? My dad has crohns and he had to get a colostomy bag....


No clue what an "ostomy bag" is... :confused:

Ew is that like a shit sack? My problem with Crohn's aren't the textbook problems people have. I mainly suffer from really bad fatigue, body aches, and I'm also constipated. And right now I feel really stressed and strung out for no reason.

[The General]

15, never had a girlfriend, don't really care

[Jordan]

Aaahh, 449. Your pitiful existence never ceases to bring a smile to my face. :)

;)

"Pitiful existence" is kind of a stretch at this point. A couple a years ago that would have worked ,but things have gotten a lot better for me. :)

[aliveupboy]

If your in canada you can potentially get medical marijuana for crohns. You have to be over 18 though.

[Jordan]

If your in canada you can potentially get medical marijuana for crohns. You have to be over 18 though.

This kid I know is going to Cali over the summer and I'm going to try to go with him. I could definitely get it there.

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

Why do you guys care if you have a girlfriend or not?

I know a girl who HAS to have a boyfriend because of her fucked up self-esteem problems.

[aliveupboy]

I know a girl who HAS to have a boyfriend because of her fucked up self-esteem problems.

I know tons of girls like that. Whats your point?

[Roll Fizzlebeef]

I know tons of girls like that. Whats your point?

No point, I just thought it was stupid/weird.

[Thecosmicexplosion]

This thread reeks with the stench of fail, low self esteem, and confidence issues.

[Mankonaut X]

I fail at everything I do and I have low self-esteem and confidence issues. Oh and I reek.

[Kevzor]

Just dont put the pussy on a pedestal and just go for it

[freeRadical]

;)

"Pitiful existence" is kind of a stretch at this point. A couple a years ago that would have worked ,but things have gotten a lot better for me. :)

Well, I'm glad to hear that. :)

[Ratt]

Don't worry about it man, 'cause girlfriends are pretty overrated.

[Cegstar]

Don't worry about it man, 'cause girlfriends are pretty overrated.

That would depend on the girl.

I somehow found a nerdy, attractive girl. She's into Star Wars, Star Trek, and almost any fantasy movie you can name. She also insists on paying her own way (supper, movies, etc).

Some girls just try to date to get free stuff, though.

[moby_dick]

*posts*

What silverfuck says is truth, but it's a lot easier to tell that to your logical brain than to your emotional circuitry. God, I wish I was a stereotypical man who didn't feel emotions. Though funnily enough, that's exactly how I come across most of the time.

I sometimes feel like a lesbian trapped in a straight man's body. lawl

[k4aic]

No clue what an "ostomy bag" is... :confused:

Ew is that like a shit sack? My problem with Crohn's aren't the textbook problems people have. I mainly suffer from really bad fatigue, body aches, and I'm also constipated. And right now I feel really stressed and strung out for no reason.

yep pretty much that is what it is..where they take out part of your colon..intestinal tract. You have like a "bag" about the size of a small ziploc which your uh..shit will filter into and it kinda looks like a belly button as far as the size of the hole in your stomach..

so im glad to see you havent progressed that far into the disease!

[i poop in your cereal]

I'll join the pack. I'm 18, never as much as kissed a girl.

Reason: I'm ugly. I'm stupid. I have mental issues. I hate people including myself. :)

[skinny love]

I sometimes feel like a lesbian trapped in a straight man's body. lawl

i feel this way too. i'm like a hormonal rosie o'donnell trapped inside a slightly more attractive mclovin's body. lol i suck

[shuaid]

21 never had gf. I don't think I'll ever get one at this rate. College is kicking my ass.

[The Jitterskull]

21 never had gf. I don't think I'll ever get one at this rate. College is kicking my ass.

You'll thank yourself when you get a wife and have a good paying job.

[Mankonaut X]

You'll thank yourself when you get a wife and have a good paying job.

But until then it's fap city, baby.

[all_for_war]

i have 7somes everyday. With mrs. palm and her 5 sisters.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

i have 7somes everyday. With mrs. palm and her 5 sisters.

Mrs palm and her 5 sisters are going to hit you across the face at high speeds if you ever try to pull that shitty kind of humour again.

[all_for_war]

Mrs palm and her 5 sisters are going to hit you across the face at high speeds if you ever try to pull that shitty kind of humour again.

i dont think so cuz they all over my dick every night

[Cliche Guevara]

Mrs palm and her 5 sisters are going to hit you across the face at high speeds if you ever try to pull that shitty kind of humour again.

But surely you've met my two girlfriends Handgelina Jolie and Jennifer Handiston

[Warped Mindless]

Seems many people here haven't yet known the joys of the female species.

Go read both Protip #1, Protip #3 (both by me), and Jacks thread on getting chicks. After that, go out an approach! Try all that and you will be well on you're way to getting a chick. Don't say it wont work either, keep an open mind. What you're doing clearly isn't working.

"Do what you've always done, get what you've always gotten. Try something new, perhaps get something new."

Have fun.

[AnalHerpes]

I have this theory that people who feel like they're too old to never have had a girlfriend have some serious kind of self-esteem and/or self-empowerment issues (if that wasn't obvious). The advice is usually to try self-improvement but the reason why this doesn't work (or rather, why they don't take it) is that these people have a very low sense of self-worth.

They think that since they've never had a girlfriend it's some kind of reflection of their worth in society so they develope (or continue to have) low self-esteem. They believe that they do not deserve to have a girlfriend, or to even be happy, that they only deserve what society gives them and since society has never given them a girlfriend that they weren't meant to have one. This is a variation of the victim mentality. A lot of people would be surprised what they could accomplish if they actually went out and tried to do something with a strong can-do attitude. It's good to tell yourself that you're worth it, that you owe more to yourself.

This is basically what everyone else has been saying but I'm trying to put it in a way that makes sense to these people.

[Silverfuck]

I have this theory that people who feel like they're too old to never have had a girlfriend have some serious kind of self-esteem and/or self-empowerment issues (if that wasn't obvious). The advice is usually to try self-improvement but the reason why this doesn't work (or rather, why they don't take it) is that these people have a very low sense of self-worth.

They think that since they've never had a girlfriend it's some kind of reflection of their worth in society so they develope (or continue to have) low self-esteem. They believe that they do not deserve to have a girlfriend, or to even be happy, that they only deserve what society gives them and since society has never given them a girlfriend that they weren't meant to have one. This is a variation of the victim mentality. A lot of people would be surprised what they could accomplish if they actually went out and tried to do something with a strong can-do attitude. It's good to tell yourself that you're worth it, that you owe more to yourself.

This is basically what everyone else has been saying but I'm trying to put it in a way that makes sense to these people.

This is exactly what I meant to say. Nice post.

[aliveupboy]

^I like his name more than his post.

[Jordan]

^I like his name more than his post.

her*? :confused:

[aliveupboy]

her*? :confused:

No. His. As in anal herpes.

[PirateJoe]

But surely you've met my two girlfriends Handgelina Jolie and Jennifer Handiston

I'd rather have one Palmela Handerson than two of those skanks.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

I'd rather have one Palmela Handerson than two of those skanks.

The only place I'de have you and your whore, pamela handerson is in the glow of my headlights before my speeding vehicle :mad:

[ZeroMalarki]

Define girlfriend. I've gone out with a few girls, but never had a being in love situation where I was with them for more than a month. I've shagged about ten women though.

[Agent 008]

Define "gone out".

[Blunderfail]

Define "define".

[zuperxtreme]

Define.

:mad:

[Agent 008]

Define "define".

Specify: determine the essential quality of.

:mad:

[Thecosmicexplosion]

I have this theory that people who feel like they're too old to never have had a girlfriend have some serious kind of self-esteem and/or self-empowerment issues (if that wasn't obvious). The advice is usually to try self-improvement but the reason why this doesn't work (or rather, why they don't take it) is that these people have a very low sense of self-worth.

They think that since they've never had a girlfriend it's some kind of reflection of their worth in society so they develope (or continue to have) low self-esteem. They believe that they do not deserve to have a girlfriend, or to even be happy, that they only deserve what society gives them and since society has never given them a girlfriend that they weren't meant to have one. This is a variation of the victim mentality. A lot of people would be surprised what they could accomplish if they actually went out and tried to do something with a strong can-do attitude. It's good to tell yourself that you're worth it, that you owe more to yourself.

This is basically what everyone else has been saying but I'm trying to put it in a way that makes sense to these people.

This. Worked for me

[Mankonaut X]

Define "gone out".

If you have to ask...

[PointlessForest]

21 Here. I can talk to girls, but I never can push it to the next level. I suppose I have some self-esteem issues. I'm 5'5" and that still gets to me. Otherwise, I feel like I'd be a great catch, so long as the lady doesn't mind the height. Not only am I short, but I look really young. Like, people have told me I look 15. How am I supposed to get a girl my age lookin' like a fuckin' 15 year old?

[skinny love]

21 Here. I can talk to girls, but I never can push it to the next level. I suppose I have some self-esteem issues. I'm 5'5" and that still gets to me. Otherwise, I feel like I'd be a great catch, so long as the lady doesn't mind the height. Not only am I short, but I look really young. Like, people have told me I look 15. How am I supposed to get a girl my age lookin' like a fuckin' 15 year old?

facial hair?:rolleyes:

[Cegstar]

facial hair?:rolleyes:

I'm 5'7 and most girls here are shorter than me.. by at least 2-3 inches... I don't see how the height is a problem, it's likely you.

[PointlessForest]

facial hair?:rolleyes:

I would if I could but I can't. And yeah, it's not just the height, it IS me. The height issue has affected my self esteem negatively and it shows. I've got no confidence because I always feel as though I look like a little kid. I don't really know how to get over that.

[Joe Camel]

This.
That.

[Warped Mindless]

That.

This.

[Joe Camel]

I fail at everything I do and I have low self-esteem and confidence issues. Oh and I reek.

Wash your stinky ass then. Start from there.

Oh, and
This.
These.

[-Usernam ['e_e'] manresU-]

21 Here. I can talk to girls, but I never can push it to the next level. I suppose I have some self-esteem issues. I'm 5'5" and that still gets to me. Otherwise, I feel like I'd be a great catch, so long as the lady doesn't mind the height. Not only am I short, but I look really young. Like, people have told me I look 15. How am I supposed to get a girl my age lookin' like a fuckin' 15 year old?

then get at 15 year old girls. FTW!

[Knife in The Knight]

I usually like to think f myself as a nice guy who gets a fair ammount of girlfriends. Nothing out of the ordinary and I'm curently dating but, I often suffer from the feeling that everytime someone says something positive to me they are lieing just to be nice (note: I dont get called super awesome all the time).

Just next time you like a girl who you think could get along with well just fucking go for it. There should be no reason why you shouldn't if you haven't even if you think that it won't be that good give it a go and see what you are like in a romantic situation. I never thought I could be so kind to someone before I started dating (usually I like being a little bit of an ass to people). If your having trouble talking to girls go talk to girls you would never date for whatever reason and get to know basics that otherwise you might not have gotten. I know there are about a million guides for dummies but, unless you know what is good and what is bad than it won't do you much more than get your head into "the game".

All in all don't cop-out of what you want because you are leaving your safety zone just go for it and sure you'll crash sometimes but, you might find it is worth it.

[AnalHerpes]

If you think you're young looking try growing some facial hair. If you can't grow facial hair (IE you're Asian) you may have to accept that you're the male equivalent of the black female and try to find someone who has niche interests in men or a female of your own species.

[Agent 008]

If you think you're young looking try growing some facial hair. If you can't grow facial hair (IE you're Asian) you may have to accept that you're the male equivalent of the black female and try to find someone who has niche interests in men or a female of your own species.

He'd be pwning everyone when he's in his 30s/40s and looking like a 20-year old.

[AnalHerpes]

Hmm, I never thought about it that way but does he really want to wait another 10-20 years to start dating?

Alternatively, he could take up chain smoking and getting minimal amounts of sleep. It'll make him look older, although probably in a bad way.

[i poop in your cereal]

This is exactly what I meant to say. Nice post.

Yeah, if only everything was as simple as a first-year psychclass... That wall of text was so painfully retarded and stereotypical that I barely made it through it.

[aliveupboy]

I would if I could but I can't. And yeah, it's not just the height, it IS me. The height issue has affected my self esteem negatively and it shows. I've got no confidence because I always feel as though I look like a little kid. I don't really know how to get over that.

Man I've got a friend that's like 4 feet. He has a girlfriend. Just go for it and if you get shot down w/e, at least you tried.

[AnalHerpes]

Stereotypes don't come from nowhere. I've also taken a PSCH 100 class and what I said wasn't remotely close to psychology. It could be standard motivational speaking though, I never really paid attention to that. Some people follow it and better their lives. You might think they're idiots but if they're happier I don't see the problem.

[aliveupboy]

Hmm, I never thought about it that way but does he really want to wait another 10-20 years to start dating?

Alternatively, he could take up chain smoking and getting minimal amounts of sleep. It'll make him look older, although probably in a bad way.

Or he could wear a fake beard.

[i poop in your cereal]

Stereotypes don't come from nowhere.

You're absolutely correct. They are born within the warped minds of FUCKING RETARDS.


I've also taken a PSCH 100 class and what I said wasn't remotely close to psychology.

"Victim mentality"


It could be standard motivational speaking though, I never really paid attention to that. Some people follow it and better their lives. You might think they're idiots but if they're happier I don't see the problem.

Motivational speaking implies that you offer some type of advice. You didn't - you just blabbered on about shit you don't understand.

[aliveupboy]

^Are you disagreeing because you don't have low sense of self worth yet are a 24 year old virgin?

[i poop in your cereal]

^Are you disagreeing because you don't have low sense of self worth yet are a 24 year old virgin?

I have very low self worth and as you could have read earlier in this thread I am a 18 year old virgin. It is not that which I disagree with.

[uknowme]

im 17, 6"1', 74 kg (no idea what that is in pounds), and ive only had one girlfriend. i dont know if i can consider her a girlfriend though because we only went out for 4 days and i got 1 hug, but i do love her more then anyone ive ever met before, anyway, if u want to get a girlfriend just talk to them, nothings more attractive then confidence

[wit]

im 17, 6"1', 74 kg (no idea what that is in pounds), and ive only had one girlfriend. i dont know if i can consider her a girlfriend though because we only went out for 4 days and i got 1 hug, but i do love her more then anyone ive ever met before, anyway, if u want to get a girlfriend just talk to them, nothings more attractive then confidence
Sorry you cant. That falls below even friendship actually.

[uknowme]

Sorry you cant. That falls below even friendship actually.

damn

[AnalHerpes]

You're absolutely correct. They are born within the warped minds of FUCKING RETARDS.



"Victim mentality"



Motivational speaking implies that you offer some type of advice. You didn't - you just blabbered on about shit you don't understand.

Stereotypes can be taken out of hand but they are born in truth (well, usually). Also just because I used a vocabulary word from psychology doesn't make it the backbone of my post. Psychology generally only tries to describe behaviors, not provide an explanation of it. Maybe it wasn't motivational speaking either, I already said I knew shit about that.

Also, I never gave any new advice, the advice has been essentially the undertone of this forum - self-improvement, I just gave an explanation of why people (like you) don't take it, because you hate yourself. You said my post was retarded but didn't prove anything I said wrong.

[i poop in your cereal]

Mm-kay, I'll begin nitpicking...

I have this theory that people who feel like they're too old to never have had a girlfriend have some serious kind of self-esteem and/or self-empowerment issues (if that wasn't obvious).

That is quite obvious.


The advice is usually to try self-improvement but the reason why this doesn't work (or rather, why they don't take it) is that these people have a very low sense of self-worth.

This is also true.



They think that since they've never had a girlfriend it's some kind of reflection of their worth in society so they develope (or continue to have) low self-esteem.

This is where the bullshit begins. Most people do not base their worth upon their mates. It is something else, something that is deeply buried within the person that disabled them from having a mate in the first place, though it might, for outsiders, appear at first glance that the sole reason for their misery is the lack of a partner.


They believe that they do not deserve to have a girlfriend, or to even be happy, that they only deserve what society gives them and since society has never given them a girlfriend that they weren't meant to have one. This is a variation of the victim mentality.

It is not that they feel(Again, I am speaking for the majority) they do not deserve a partner. Your very reasoning has to be completely fucked if you view the world like that. It is more of a "I would fail if I tried. I can't do it" etcetc - Not that they feel they should be punished, directly.


A lot of people would be surprised what they could accomplish if they actually went out and tried to do something with a strong can-do attitude. It's good to tell yourself that you're worth it, that you owe more to yourself.

Yes, it is indeed. This is like telling a cancerpatient that they would surely survive if they were born 500 years in the future. It's pointless and stupid.


This is basically what everyone else has been saying but I'm trying to put it in a way that makes sense to these people.

And this is basically why no one gets it.

[Warped Mindless]

To much complaining and not enough approaching.

[i poop in your cereal]

To much complaining and not enough approaching.

Not enough :fap:

[Warped Mindless]

Seriously. You guys have the whole forum here to learn list about chicks...use it!!! For fucks sake, go out and approach. Actually, a better forum with better advise: http://forum.charismaarts.com

[i poop in your cereal]

Seriously. You guys have the whole forum here to learn list about chicks...use it!!! For fucks sake, go out and approach. Actually, a better forum with better advise: http://forum.charismaarts.com

You still dont get it lol.

[Warped Mindless]

You still dont get it lol.

I don't get it? What don't I get?

[i poop in your cereal]

I don't get it? What don't I get?

These people dont need romantic guidance, they need hardcore therapy(In theory - The fact that it doesnt work is something I wont discuss now) etc.

[Silverfuck]

Yeah, if only everything was as simple as a first-year psychclass... That wall of text was so painfully retarded and stereotypical that I barely made it through it.

Not everything has to be complicated. I know there are plenty of guys with real issues who have difficulty putting themselves out there and connecting with people. But there are also tons and tons of guys who just haven't had the best opportunities, haven't met the right girl, and take that to mean that they're horribly dysfunctional...and that self-image is the only thing holding them back.

[i poop in your cereal]

Not everything has to be complicated

But unfortunately, mostly everything is.

[Warped Mindless]

But unfortunately, mostly everything is.

Not really. Shit is simple, people just likes to complicate things.

[i poop in your cereal]

Not really. Shit is simple, people just likes to complicate things.

What is it that is simple?

[Agent 008]

Not really. Shit is simple, people just likes to complicate things.

There are too many situations in life, where "You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't".

[AnalHerpes]

"This is where the bullshit begins. Most people do not base their worth upon their mates. It is something else, something that is deeply buried within the person that disabled them from having a mate in the first place, though it might, for outsiders, appear at first glance that the sole reason for their misery is the lack of a partner."

It starts out with having a lack of a girlfriend then it starts to get to them in other ways. They stop moving forward with their life and start to brood on it and then their life falls apart in other aspects as well. Some people may be too socially retarded to get a girlfriend, others are just shy. The people who fall into this trap and get lucky by finding a girlfriend say when they're 15 or 16 typically will only find that this was a bump in their life and they can move on with the pack. People who are older see that they're too far behind to try and catch up with their peers so they fall into despair.

"It is not that they feel(Again, I am speaking for the majority) they do not deserve a partner. Your very reasoning has to be completely fucked if you view the world like that. It is more of a "I would fail if I tried. I can't do it" etcetc - Not that they feel they should be punished, directly."

The word "deserve" might be a bit confusing, it's more that these people keep kicking themselves and telling themselves that they're worthless. Even if in their current state they may not be able to find a mate, they're young. It's not impossible to change so why don't they? It's almost as if these people don't want to be happy.

"Yes, it is indeed. This is like telling a cancerpatient that they would surely survive if they were born 500 years in the future. It's pointless and stupid."

That analogy isn't really valid unless your point was that it's impossible for people to have positive thinking.

Here's the thing, I'm in the same boat as a lot of the people in this thread (worse if you consider that I'm older than several of these posters including you). Don't think that I don't understand where these people are coming from. The one thing I've been able to do that a lot of other people can't is move on with my life. I've gone on and learned more about myself and about life in general and learned to enjoy what I have yet still try to get more. Even if I end up alone for the rest of my life, I'm fine with the benefits of being single.

The bottom line is learn to love yourself; time you spend moping is time wasted that you could have spent being happy. You still have a while left on this Earth, try not to waste any more of it.

[i poop in your cereal]

That analogy isn't really valid unless your point was that it's impossible for people to have positive thinking.

It is for some people.

I've gone on and learned more about myself and about life in general and learned to enjoy what I have yet still try to get more.

Learning more about yourself and life usually means that you have all the more reason to be depressed, if you're like the majority of the posters in this thread.

The bottom line is learn to love yourself.

That's like asking someone to learn to love a bowl of shit.

[blackflagnirvana]

I lost my virginity to one of my friends g/f's friends who I met off myspace lulz. I fucked her the 3rd time we hung out. Then never hung out with her again cause she was really stupid.

Then I had this one chance were me and a girl were watching a movie on my bed and I DIDNT DO ANYTHING *grrrr* I'm a retard

Mostly my whole life has been filled with fail but there have been a couple moments of win. But most of the time its I'm getting no pussy like usual :(

[AnalHerpes]

It is for some people.



Learning more about yourself and life usually means that you have all the more reason to be depressed, if you're like the majority of the posters in this thread.



That's like asking someone to learn to love a bowl of shit.

If you hate yourself that much then you're basically what I said, you don't feel like you deserve to be happy. Most people probably don't have that exact thought process but that's the best way to describe it.

Either that or I learned to love a bowl of shit and now eat it for breakfast daily. ;)

[i poop in your cereal]

If you hate yourself that much then you're basically what I said, you don't feel like you deserve to be happy.

I do deserve any more or any less than anyone else.

[AnalHerpes]

Then why don't you do something about it? Depressed people are funny in that they're can't decide whether they want to be depressed or not.

I never said this would change anyone's life, if anything, I explained why these people won't do anything about it.

[i poop in your cereal]

Then why don't you do something about it? Depressed people are funny in that they're can't decide whether they want to be depressed or not.

Because I can't.

[AnalHerpes]

I'd wager you could learn if you tried but that's just my speculation. I don't know you so I'm not going to say anything more as I don't think this discussion is going anywhere.

[i poop in your cereal]

I'd wager you could learn if you tried but that's just my speculation.

Learn what?

[Duelist]

I too have the chrons!

http://forum.sensiseeds.com/images/indoor/a_kaya-man/chronic_envirolite_200w.JPG

[Jordan]

This thread is making me lawl. :)

[Joe Camel]

I'd wager you could learn if you tried but that's just my speculation. I don't know you so I'm not going to say anything more as I don't think this discussion is going anywhere.

Ignore him.

[i poop in your cereal]

Ignore him.

Why?

[aliveupboy]

I poop in your cereal is trolling you all hard. Or hes just a total idiot.

Either way you're arguing with a loser with a small dick that spends all his time posting on the interwebz. Look at his post count for fuck sakes.

Nothing he says is credible or worth replying to.

even he admits this.

http://bbs.zoklet.net/showpost.php?p=61077&postcount=52

[Cytosine]

I know it's been said, but anyone can get laid no matter how ugly they are. I'm 20, ugly as hell, and I've never asked a girl out in my life. I lost my virginity when I was 17 (she was 19), and I hadn't been single for longer than two months since I was 15. I've recently had my longest dry spell over this past year (older women are less desperate, I fear), and it sucks.

Oh, and the confidence of being in a relationship goes away. I still can't talk to a woman to save my fucking life.

[Cegstar]

I know it's been said, but anyone can get laid no matter how ugly they are. I'm 20, ugly as hell, and I've never asked a girl out in my life. I lost my virginity when I was 17 (she was 19), and I hadn't been single for longer than two months since I was 15. I've recently had my longest dry spell over this past year (older women are less desperate, I fear), and it sucks.

Oh, and the confidence of being in a relationship goes away. I still can't talk to a woman to save my fucking life.

You can't talk to girls, yet haven't been single for longer than 2 months?

So they ask you out, and you just sit there and shudder in fear, or what?

[Mankonaut X]

You can't talk to girls, yet haven't been single for longer than 2 months?

So they ask you out, and you just sit there and shudder in fear, or what?

I think he means he was confident, met a girl, then when the girl dumped his ass to the curb she sucked out all his confidence like the poisonous viper from hell that she is. That fucking cunt :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

EDIT: That fucking CUNT :mad:

[Cegstar]

I think he means he was confident, met a girl, then when the girl dumped his ass to the curb she sucked out all his confidence like the poisonous viper from hell that she is. That fucking cunt :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

EDIT: That fucking CUNT :mad:

According to his statement, he would have had at least 2 girlfriends... and he sounds like he says he's confident...

[Mankonaut X]

According to his statement, he would have had at least 2 girlfriends... and he sounds like he says he's confident...

Nah he's just joking, he's actually a hollow shell of a man.

[i poop in your cereal]

I poop in your cereal is trolling you all hard. Or hes just a total idiot.

Either way you're arguing with a loser with a small dick that spends all his time posting on the interwebz. Look at his post count for fuck sakes.

Nothing he says is credible or worth replying to.

even he admits this.

http://bbs.zoklet.net/showpost.php?p=61077&postcount=52

Why does the fact that I'm a complete failure discredit my posts?

[bang]

dude 449 i know you well enough. you'll find a gf in the least expected time, don't worry. it will happen and you won't expect it. and you're good enough material for alot of people(rather, you're too good for alot of bitches). believe me half the girls out there are bitches, and relationships with them aren't meaningful. there will be someone right for you soon enough.


if you'd like to talk about htis more, IM me and we'll have a heart to heart ;)

[EllisD]

I know it's been said, but anyone can get laid no matter how ugly they are. I'm 20, ugly as hell, and I've never asked a girl out in my life. I lost my virginity when I was 17 (she was 19), and I hadn't been single for longer than two months since I was 15. I've recently had my longest dry spell over this past year (older women are less desperate, I fear), and it sucks.

Oh, and the confidence of being in a relationship goes away. I still can't talk to a woman to save my fucking life.


I feel ya man, im the same way, sometimes ill be messin with a couple of females and my confidence will be up, but then ill go without a female for months (I only click with a couple kinds of females from what I see).
months without hangin out with females kills my confidence, so hard to even initiate much with them...at my work ive been gettin like a myspace a couple times a week and nothing has been working out :(

[Xenon]

I've never really had any girlfriend, Srsly.

[Elephantitis Man]

23 years old and never had one. Never been kissed or any form of intimate contact either. Nothing.

To be honest, I don't really care about being a virgin. I didn't even start wanking until I was almost 18. Sex has never been a big deal. In high school my thoughts were, "Meh. I'll meet a girl in college." In college my thoughts changed to "Meh. What difference does it make at this point?"

I couldn't just fuck a girl. Or kiss a girl. Hell, I don't even like hugging people I don't know very well. I'm protective of my personal space, and if someone I don't know and like violates that space (be they attractive or not), I find it unpleasant. I have no desire to be player or to go out and "get pussy".

The thing that does get to me is the sheer loneliness. I live alone. Most of my work I do alone. I wish I had someone to spend my time with, eat dinner with, go to the movies with, go on vacations with. I wonder what it's like to sleep with someone. Not sex, just someone to curl up with in bed and go to sleep together. I don't know what that's like, but it sounds nice. I'd like someone that I could care for and they could care for me back.
Frankly, I don't know how to find a girl who wants such things. Or one that wants such things from me.

Another thing is I'm not one to put on an act. What I want, I'm not going to find by getting a snazzy new haircut, buying some prep clothes, and going to a party. I'm not uncomfortable talking to women, but I have no "game plan" or tactics or lines. I am what I am; I don't bullshit. I know that if I did put on a show to attract a girl, and then after one date or two or more, I showed her who I really was, that's a bait and switch. It's bullshit. Like I said, I can't find what I'm looking for by putting on an act.

[Irukanji]

^ Eventually someone will come looking for you....if you reach 25, start looking :)

Me aswell lol. Partly out of personal preference, partly out of seeing soooooo many people ruin there lives because some bitch dumped them(i can recall atleast 7.....and for some reason they always try to drag me into it). Also, who wants to go out with "that psycho mother fucker over there"? Everyone thought that....lol

But i was also smart, but i didnt see much need to be in school, so always got suspended, etc....

And i could never bring myself to ask a girl out to save my fucking balls, i dunno why. And the one time i did, boom, head shot. Owell :)

:fap: helps pass the time. And the internet has some good porn.

But i like hugging people, no matter who they are. And i get along with girls/women who are OLDER then me, but not younger. Making them laugh is a good start to break the ice. But no racist jokes, no derogatory comments, etc. Maybe spend a few moments sussing the person up before you approach, that way you can(maybe) comment on them, etc. Just make them laugh(or GHB, lol, but thats for desperate people)

On my to do list;

Get a decent girlfriend(not a crackhead hooker)

[Xenon]

But i like hugging people, no matter who they are. And i get along with girls/women who are OLDER then me, but not younger.

Yeah, same.
Hugging is comfortable. Except if it is by some smelly old man or something. You get the point.

[bang]

23 years old and never had one. Never been kissed or any form of intimate contact either. Nothing.

To be honest, I don't really care about being a virgin. I didn't even start wanking until I was almost 18. Sex has never been a big deal. In high school my thoughts were, "Meh. I'll meet a girl in college." In college my thoughts changed to "Meh. What difference does it make at this point?"

I couldn't just fuck a girl. Or kiss a girl. Hell, I don't even like hugging people I don't know very well. I'm protective of my personal space, and if someone I don't know and like violates that space (be they attractive or not), I find it unpleasant. I have no desire to be player or to go out and "get pussy".

The thing that does get to me is the sheer loneliness. I live alone. Most of my work I do alone. I wish I had someone to spend my time with, eat dinner with, go to the movies with, go on vacations with. I wonder what it's like to sleep with someone. Not sex, just someone to curl up with in bed and go to sleep together. I don't know what that's like, but it sounds nice. I'd like someone that I could care for and they could care for me back.
Frankly, I don't know how to find a girl who wants such things. Or one that wants such things from me.

Another thing is I'm not one to put on an act. What I want, I'm not going to find by getting a snazzy new haircut, buying some prep clothes, and going to a party. I'm not uncomfortable talking to women, but I have no "game plan" or tactics or lines. I am what I am; I don't bullshit. I know that if I did put on a show to attract a girl, and then after one date or two or more, I showed her who I really was, that's a bait and switch. It's bullshit. Like I said, I can't find what I'm looking for by putting on an act.



you're right. don't ever change for anyone. you won't be happy. there is someone out there who is for you. when they find you or vice versa you will know it. it won't be about the sex or the fact that you have a gf. and I am glad you know that. I would give up sex if I was given a choice over being able to cuddle and hug and sleep and talk to my gf. as long as you have respect for women and trust your feelings you will be fine

[wires]

I hoped you were going to join us Elephantitis Man. Nice to see you.

I'll say it again - sex and girlfriends aren't everything. I tend to find that the less you stress out about not having something, the more likely it is to slip into place.

[Agent 008]

I hoped you were going to join us Elephantitis Man. Nice to see you.

I'll say it again - sex and girlfriends aren't everything. I tend to find that the less you stress out about not having something, the more likely it is to slip into place.

That's how it works for girls, but not for blokes.


Elephantitis Man, you can't keep doing the same thing but expect different results.

Don't forget that you only live one life. Might as well try to get together with a girl, you might find it fun.
Seriously. You probably have set and worked for goals before. This is no different. Try different things. Constantly improve yourself, both physically and mentally (if you think you're already ideal, there must be something wrong with you).

But you might want to start with getting more social in general - talk to absolutely everyone everywhere; try to make some friends; talk to both girls and blokes in almost the same friendly way, and *then* the problem might solve itself.

If you just stay at home, go to work, and follow the same routine, things won't just "happen".


TL/DR: Set a goal, and don't give up until you reach it.

[PukeRat]

You don't need a girlfriend all they are is a hassle. Just get you a friend with benefits they are the best girlfriends you can have. All the fun of a girlfriend but with none of the crap (well maybe some)

[bang]

You don't need a girlfriend all they are is a hassle. Just get you a friend with benefits they are the best girlfriends you can have. All the fun of a girlfriend but with none of the crap (well maybe some)

you just missed the whole point of this thread.

:facepalm:

[freeRadical]

the more likely it is to slip into place.

No pun intended, right?

[Autumn]

I'm a chick so, I don't know if I count.

[freeRadical]

I'm a chick so, I don't know if I count.

You don't count fucking new arrival.:mad:

[Evil con Carne]

I'm eighteen and I've never had a girlfriend. The main reason was that I seemed to lose any interest once a girl hinted at having the same feelings. Now, I just don't really feel attracted to girls at all- or any person for that matter.

[Bender]

This entire thread.

:facepalm:

[Chazz]

I can't tell if this is actually quite common for guys not to have had a girlfriend or if its just common with the users of teh internet/zoklet

[Mankonaut X]

Also having a girlfriend wins arguments. Every time I have an argument with my friend he ends it with, 'yeah well I'm gonna go have sex with my girlfriend'. You can't beat that! :(

[Cegstar]

I can't tell if this is actually quite common for guys not to have had a girlfriend or if its just common with the users of teh internet/zoklet
I'd say it's pretty common, depending on age of course.
Also having a girlfriend wins arguments. Every time I have an argument with my friend he ends it with, 'yeah well I'm gonna go have sex with my girlfriend'. You can't beat that! :(

Tell him she has herpes/AIDS.

[AnalHerpes]

I think it goes in some kind of age bracket. There's a huge drop in that number after 18 (high school graduation) and from there the numbers slowly dwindle but never dies out because after a certain age, a lot of people probably just give up.

[Jim Strongcock]

ok i guess im weird but here is my timeline

8 years old i move to current town in 2nd grade

3rd grade i get a girlfriend

6th grade i leave her

7th grade(11 yrs old) get a new gf for about a month

1 month later she ends it.

later in 7th grade i get another gf

stay with her for 40 days. we break up

she uses me for a birthday gift

1 week after that i go on a cruise.

hook up with random girl on cruise who lives near my shore house (1st one night stand)

summer of that year we meet at the beach and fondle eachother for a while

next year(13 years old) we fuck

that goes on for the next couple years then i come to now im 17

since i was 8 i had a total of 13 gfs you just need to go with the flow and improve yourself it helps to have e friend thats female to ask sex questions about i had one her name was sarah

[Jim Strongcock]

you all make me feel good about myself.

[Cliche Guevara]

u had a girlfriend for 3 years when you were 9???
are you a mormon or something?

[Cegstar]

ok i guess im weird but here is my timeline

8 years old i move to current town in 2nd grade

3rd grade i get a girlfriend

6th grade i leave her

7th grade(11 yrs old) get a new gf for about a month

1 month later she ends it.

later in 7th grade i get another gf

stay with her for 40 days. we break up

she uses me for a birthday gift

1 week after that i go on a cruise.

hook up with random girl on cruise who lives near my shore house (1st one night stand)

summer of that year we meet at the beach and fondle eachother for a while

next year(13 years old) we fuck

that goes on for the next couple years then i come to now im 17

since i was 8 i had a total of 13 gfs you just need to go with the flow and improve yourself it helps to have e friend thats female to ask sex questions about i had one her name was sarah

11 years old in grade 7?

I turned 16 in grade 10, or so I thought...

[Jim Strongcock]

u had a girlfriend for 3 years when you were 9???
are you a mormon or something?

nah not mormon im catholic but barely i never do anything with church im just commited at a young age and to the op get into some sports paintball is good i got a few gfs from doing sports

[Jim Strongcock]

and yea 11 years old in grade 7 it was october and my bday is in may

[Sydney-Floyd]

I'm really in a bad place right now. My family is straight up middle class and everyone else is filthy rich. Everyone is very clickish and if you don't have money then you're fucked.


Why would you want a girlfriend who ran her life and decisions through the criteria of these cliques?
C'mon now! Unless you're just looking to get your dick wet then I'd say you're better off GF-less than stuck with a bitch.

[Ambient]

Ive never had a girlfriend

[Tokerface]

I HAVENT :o lol.

[Jordan]

Why would you want a girlfriend who ran her life and decisions through the criteria of these cliques?
C'mon now! Unless you're just looking to get your dick wet then I'd say you're better off GF-less than stuck with a bitch.

Yeah.

[AdamSmokesCrack]

I wonder what it's like to sleep with someone. Not sex, just someone to curl up with in bed and go to sleep together.

It's actually very uncomfortable most of the time. You don't actually fall asleep in each others' arms unless you're intoxicated or high. You just roll away from each other to go to sleep.

[I Still Needmoney]

*Raises hand*

EDIT: Well to be fair, I am kinda at the begginning of one, so we'll see how it goes...

[Mankonaut X]

It's actually very uncomfortable most of the time. You don't actually fall asleep in each others' arms unless you're intoxicated or high. You just roll away from each other to go to sleep.

Nigga please, you best put down that crackpipe. There's nothing better than having someone fall asleep with you in your arms.

[I Still Needmoney]

Nigga please, you best put down that crackpipe. There's nothing better than having someone fall asleep with you in your arms.

I'd imagine there isn't. I'll take your word for it...

I'm so lonely. I need a hug...

:(:(:(

[Tokerface]

I'm really attractive but girls never talk to me that much.

Dont kid yourself.

[Sydney-Floyd]

It's actually very uncomfortable most of the time. You don't actually fall asleep in each others' arms unless you're intoxicated or high. You just roll away from each other to go to sleep.

This pretty much. If you fall alseep in eachothers arms, eventually someone will have to move. Cramping and blocked circulation, How Romantic!
Falling asleep though, generally spoons is most comfortable.

[bang]

This pretty much. If you fall alseep in eachothers arms, eventually someone will have to move. Cramping and blocked circulation, How Romantic!
Falling asleep though, generally spoons is most comfortable.

true that

[Psionicist]

This pretty much. If you fall alseep in eachothers arms, eventually someone will have to move. Cramping and blocked circulation, How Romantic!
Falling asleep though, generally spoons is most comfortable.

I've always liked back to back myself. Spooning is great, but eventually i need to move. I like a constant supply of cool, fresh air when i'm sleeping, and my girlfriend's hair will at some point get in the way while we're spooning.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

This thread is so depressing :(

[Psionicist]

Just think - while you may not be as happy as those of us with great girlfriends, you are still a lot better off than those guys who are stuck with cheating, asshole girlfriends. Not to mention plenty of people are perfectly happy single. Of course, plenty of people would just go out and find a girlfriend, too.

[Cegstar]

Just think - while you may not be as happy as those of us with great girlfriends, you are still a lot better off than those guys who are stuck with cheating, asshole girlfriends. Not to mention plenty of people are perfectly happy single. Of course, plenty of people would just go out and find a girlfriend, too.

This. I'd rather be single than taken out of desperation.

[Atlas]

Never been kissed or any form of intimate contact either. Nothing.

To be honest, I don't really care about being a virgin.

I couldn't just fuck a girl. Or kiss a girl. I have no desire to be player or to go out and "get pussy".

The thing that does get to me is the sheer loneliness. I live alone. Most of my work I do alone. I wish I had someone to spend my time with, eat dinner with, go to the movies with, go on vacations with. I wonder what it's like to sleep with someone. Not sex, just someone to curl up with in bed and go to sleep together. I don't know what that's like, but it sounds nice. I'd like someone that I could care for and they could care for me back.
Frankly, I don't know how to find a girl who wants such things. Or one that wants such things from me.

Another thing is I'm not one to put on an act.

pretty much this. I just want to mind my university studies and work hard toward being successful. After that, i can get the girlfriend and spend time with her without having the fear of losing a job shoved up my ass.

i gotta admit, i'm a self-improvement nut. I constantly read and listen to stuff that adds value to my life. From an outsider's perspective, that might seem egotistical, but i'd rather build up my own value right now so that when i do get that girlfriend i will actually have something to offer, other than my mug and my dick.

however, this fucking society is against those who step outside the norm and i get to have the lack of girlfriend/sex shoved down my throat, as if it's a valid argument. Since when the fuck did a relationship equal maturity?

[Agent 008]

pretty much this. I just want to mind my university studies and work hard toward being successful. After that, i can get the girlfriend and spend time with her without having the fear of losing a job shoved up my ass.

i gotta admit, i'm a self-improvement nut. I constantly read and listen to stuff that adds value to my life. From an outsider's perspective, that might seem egotistical, but i'd rather build up my own value right now so that when i do get that girlfriend i will actually have something to offer, other than my mug and my dick.

however, this fucking society is against those who step outside the norm and i get to have the lack of girlfriend/sex shoved down my throat, as if it's a valid argument. Since when the fuck did a relationship equal maturity?

You think in the same way that I think.

I'd rather make sure I sort out my life and not get into any debts later in life, than spend time on a relationship. Because if I do something, I like to do it properly, and I can't commit to both goals.

I never cared what the society said or thought anyway, so that has never been a problem for me.

[reggie_love]

"the game" by neil strauss should be your bible then :)

"The Game" isn't really a how-to guide, it's more of an insight into the "pickup artist" culture.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

That dude who said back at totse that he'd been trying for years to get a meaningufl relationship should contribute, I think it was the dude who liked knives and fighting and shit.

[Marquis In Spades]

fuck we need gfs or well end up like thoses sick fucks who talk to realdolls <SHOCK!! reek reek reek!!!!

[a giant pterodactyl]

give in to the snake my friend...give in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ToNZHG5KHw

[The Cheshire Cat]

Guys with girlfriends don't suddenly stop being miserable and everything's great. It's okay not to have had a girlfriend yet, whatever your age. It will happen when you have the confidence to tell that inner 'knot' inside you to shut up, because girls aren't everything. It's about you first.

I have to quote this. Wires is completely correct. Having a girlfriend isn't everything it's cracked up to be. The only thing you guys see is the fun part of it. Along with the fun part, is 10x more struggle, pain, and just all out bullshit and aggravation.

Sure, having someone is nice and all. But a lot of you guys are still young. Live life, don't jump into relationships. You may regret it down the road. You'll be left wondering if you weren't in that relationship, what could have happened with that other girl.

[CanadianCossack]

People look for Girlfriends in their 20's?


Why invest in someone you are not going to marry? If you want sex than head to the bar. Most women are only interested in "hanging out" (see bars) and dating (see expensive meals at restaurants) till in the 25-30 bracket. And I should point out that some women never leave that game (we have 40 yearold tramps who hit the bars every weekend)


Chances are if you didn't find a long-term girlfriend in Highschool, you are not going to find one in College. What do you have to offer to a girl? A student loan? A beat down car? In Highschool it was all about hierarchy (good grades, one of the first boys with a driver's license, et al)

Women only care about mechanical upgrades like a Mercedes 360 SL, a fat wallet and a man with a promising career.
And if a woman tells you that's not true than she's lying or she's socially defunct. Most of time women who speak like that can't hold a conversation and are boring as watching paint dry

[Silverfuck]

^Yeah, the superficial girls are always so witty and interesting.

[Marijuanasaurus]

People look for Girlfriends in their 20's?


Why invest in someone you are not going to marry? If you want sex than head to the bar. Most women are only interested in "hanging out" (see bars) and dating (see expensive meals at restaurants) till in the 25-30 bracket. And I should point out that some women never leave that game (we have 40 yearold tramps who hit the bars every weekend)


Chances are if you didn't find a long-term girlfriend in Highschool, you are not going to find one in College. What do you have to offer to a girl? A student loan? A beat down car? In Highschool it was all about hierarchy (good grades, one of the first boys with a driver's license, et al)

Women only care about mechanical upgrades like a Mercedes 360 SL, a fat wallet and a man with a promising career.
And if a woman tells you that's not true than she's lying or she's socially defunct. Most of time women who speak like that can't hold a conversation and are boring as watching paint dry

this depresses me.
i have a shitty ass car, live in a shitty ass home, and have a shitty education(so far)

so yes... i will enjoy not having a girl to judge me, and will continue puffing on this joint.

*puff puff*

[CanadianCossack]

^Yeah, the superficial girls are always so witty and interesting.


You mocking me or something? Girls who know what they want are an improvement over the ones who hide behind fake personalities, dress like a Christian Single on a Christian Dating Site and whatever.

[CanadianCossack]

this depresses me.
i have a shitty ass car, live in a shitty ass home, and have a shitty education(so far)

so yes... i will enjoy not having a girl to judge me, and will continue puffing on this joint.

*puff puff*


Pfft
Just take a loan to get a better looking car. Don't bring a girl to your home then. And get a god damn education before I beat you

[Silverfuck]

You mocking me or something? Girls who know what they want are an improvement over the ones who hide behind fake personalities, dress like a Christian Single on a Christian Dating Site and whatever.

Your lighting quick skills of deduction are making me dizzy!!

Not caring about cars and cashflow =/= not knowing what you want

Not caring about cars and casflow =/= dressing like a bag lady

[CanadianCossack]

Your lighting quick skills of deduction are making me dizzy!!

Not caring about cars and cashflow =/= not knowing what you want

Not caring about cars and casflow =/= dressing like a bag lady


That's cause the people, like you, in Eastern Canada are fucktards who don't know shit

[Agent 008]

dress like a Christian Single on a Christian Dating Site and whatever.

Meh, I'd hit that: http://www.christianconnection.co.uk/login_viewprofile.php?username=natasha704

[CanadianCossack]

Meh, I'd hit that: http://www.christianconnection.co.uk/login_viewprofile.php?username=natasha704


She screams no personality and boring. Yeah I'll like to take advantage of her too but I wouldn't marry the bitch

[Agent 008]

She screams no personality and boring. Yeah I'll like to take advantage of her too but I wouldn't marry the bitch

I thought you said that you didn't want a girl with a personality? And who's talking about marriage? :confused:

[CanadianCossack]

I thought you said that you didn't want a girl with a personality? And who's talking about marriage? :confused:


Screwing a bitch and wanting a girl are two different things. Your a sub-IQ fat ass Goth who can't read. This thread is about having a girlfriend. That's different than a fuckbuddy you moron.
Go kill yourself already

[Marijuanasaurus]

Screwing a bitch and wanting a girl are two different things. You idiot retard who can't read. This thread is about having a girlfriend. That's different than a fuckbuddy you moron

no you idiot retard who cant read. and this thread is about not having a gf, not about the bimbos you wish to screw.

[Agent 008]

Screwing a bitch and wanting a girl are two different things. Your a sub-IQ fat ass Goth who can't read. This thread is about having a girlfriend. That's different than a fuckbuddy you moron.
Go kill yourself already

Haha, I like how you came back and edited more insults in there.

[CanadianCossack]

Haha, I like how you came back and edited more insults in there.

Shut the fuck up. Moderator edited my post not me.

[Marijuanasaurus]

Shut the fuck up. Moderator edited my post not me.

good excuse. ill give you rep for that one.




psyche

[superspeedz]

only ever had one long term relationship (girlfriend) although i have a lot of short term ones.
Most women bore me, so i simply make friends with benefits.

[CanadianCossack]

only ever had one long term relationship (girlfriend) although i have a lot of short term ones.
Most women bore me, so i simply make friends with benefits.


That's cause the majority of women pretend to play dumb. And a good share of them are indeed psychotic (me thinks it's the hormones, chemicals from the makeup and birth control pills); so your average women is only good as being an interactive flashlight and nothing more.

[Agent 008]

only good as being an interactive flashlight and nothing more.

Wow, is that an undocumented feature of some sort? How do I turn that on? That could be really useful.

[a giant pterodactyl]

I've always liked back to back myself. Spooning is great, but eventually i need to move. I like a constant supply of cool, fresh air when i'm sleeping, and my girlfriend's hair will at some point get in the way while we're spooning.

every time the hair gets in the way to try stick it in her bum. EVERY time. it will condintion her to keep her hair far away from you.
it will also tell her that having her hair near you is like having her bum open to you...something most girls will not do. lulz

gotta git all psychological on her ass.

[a giant pterodactyl]

Wow, is that an undocumented feature of some sort? How do I turn that on? That could be really useful.

pay $50+ on the internet to order it. unwrap it and lube it , slip in your magic wand and 'turn it on"

[Agent 008]

pay $50+ on the internet to order it. unwrap it and lube it , slip in your magic wand and 'turn it on"

I was making fun of your spelling of "fleshlight".

[a giant pterodactyl]

I was making fun of your spelling of "fleshlight".

could you please find and quote anywhere in this thread that i said 'fleshlight'
i would expect you to have a better attention span if you are going to be making conspiracy threads. lmao

[Agent 008]

could you please find and quote anywhere in this thread that i said 'fleshlight'
i would expect you to have a better attention span if you are going to be making conspiracy threads. lmao

You said "Flashlight", while the correct spelling for the masturbatory aid is "Fleshlight", have a good day good Sir.

[a giant pterodactyl]

You said "Flashlight", while the correct spelling for the masturbatory aid is "Fleshlight", have a good day good Sir.

no where in this thread have i said 'fleshlight' ,OTHER THAN THE LAST TWO POST WHERE I HAVE CHALLENGED YOU. you are challenged to find where i quoted it, along with every other person in this thread.

it does not exist. how is this for a conspiracy thread?

you are about as sharp as fragginoobsincolumbine(MAY HIS SOUL FOREVER BE COVERED IN TACOS Y BURRRRRITOS)

[PirateJoe]

Last night I had a dream. In it I had a bunch of really good friends, a cute girl that liked me and I was funny and articulate and all that great stuff. When I woke up, while I was still in that semi-dreaming state my first thought was, "Damn, now I won't be able to wallow in self-pity anymore."

[Agent 008]

Last night I had a dream. In it I had a bunch of really good friends, a cute girl that liked me and I was funny and articulate and all that great stuff. When I woke up, while I was still in that semi-dreaming state my first thought was, "Damn, now I won't be able to wallow in self-pity anymore."

Heh. Hate when that happens. You have some awesome dream, then you wake up, and think "Oh shit, it's back to this again. Ok, I'll just drag the day out, and get back to the dream action!"

That's when you know you really have to do something about your life. After all, if you're doing something in a dream, you could be doing the exact same thing in real life. It's your mind that is thinking of all those dreams, right? If you're awesome in a dream, you are awesome in real life - you just need to realize that, get rid of things and conscious thoughts that hold you down, and act it.

[Uriah Heep]

That's cause the people, like you, in Eastern Canada are fucktards who don't know shit

Fuck you:mad:

[AnalHerpes]

Heh. Hate when that happens. You have some awesome dream, then you wake up, and think "Oh shit, it's back to this again. Ok, I'll just drag the day out, and get back to the dream action!"

That's when you know you really have to do something about your life. After all, if you're doing something in a dream, you could be doing the exact same thing in real life. It's your mind that is thinking of all those dreams, right? If you're awesome in a dream, you are awesome in real life - you just need to realize that, get rid of things and conscious thoughts that hold you down, and act it.

The flip side to that is sometimes it's only awesome because it's in a dream and when you try to do it in real life in ends up being lame, similar to how some things are only scary because it's a dream. But I suppose everyone has different types of dreams.

[PirateJoe]

The flip side to that is sometimes it's only awesome because it's in a dream and when you try to do it in real life in ends up being lame, similar to how some things are only scary because it's a dream. But I suppose everyone has different types of dreams.

Yeah, if there's one thing I've learned its that things aren't as good IRL as they sound in my head.

[Agent 008]

Yeah, if there's one thing I've learned its that things aren't as good IRL as they sound in my head.

But why? Because others act differently?

[Jordan]

[some choad]

No it doesn't apply to both sexes. At least not in this case. A hot girl (like yoplait) could have her pick out of thousands of guys. They would all gladly be with her. Out of those thousand guys she should just pick one that she likes. Its not rocket science.

Guys on the other hand have to find a girl they like, and then hope to god shes single, and that she also likes him.

This can happen with guys, i know guys that have a shit load of girls after them, but its not as common as females

[rabbitweed]

I've had girlfriends before, sort of, ages ago...

But, what? I have to get a car to have a girlfriend? Dress well?

Man, fuck that. I'd rather wank.

[zingalong]

I'm 17 and never had one.

If you're a girl, lets hook up!