what's this invisible internet?

[lvl99]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.

It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.

The internet just seems boring and diluted now. It's just not exciting for me anymore. I guess I'm just surfing the wrong wave.

Any links, or guides would be great.

[Mankonaut X]

It's just stuff that can't be picked up by search engines like Limewire and other peer to peer networks. It's not as awesome as it sounds. I bet there's a loooooooot of CP in them thar hills though.

[lvl99]

It's just stuff that can't be picked up by search engines like Limewire and other peer to peer networks. It's not as awesome as it sounds. I bet there's a loooooooot of CP in them thar hills though.

Damn, that's a shame.

[Agent 008]

It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.

Oh man. Those were the days!

When you would descend into the underground web hell, get a shitload of weird shortcuts on your desktop, and then wham! Your dial-up disconnects, and your computer starts dialing a dial-in porn site number on the other end of the world!

[Rizzo in a box]

It's fucking awesome when you know how to use it because you can find all sorts of random information.

I was looking for some info on this (used to have a bunch of places bookmarked), forgot about it, and now just remembered. will n33d f0r z1n3

[Rizzo in a box]

oh man I just came up on so much relevant and useful information lololol FUCK GOOGLE & Pubmed and shit.

*uploads to Dose FTP*

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Oh man. Those were the days!

When you would descend into the underground web hell, get a shitload of weird shortcuts on your desktop, and then wham! Your dial-up disconnects, and your computer starts dialing a dial-in porn site number on the other end of the world!

Hahaha random porn diallers installing themselves on your computer really bring back the memories.

[Samulol]

When i saw this thread title i thought you were referring to websites on the tor network.
I was wrong, but this looks very interesting!

[Revvy]

Fucking good days man.

I remember I was searching around hacking sites and came on a website and there was an image of a cop car with flashing sirens and the message 'your IP has been logged: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'. I shit myself and yanked the plug out of my computer.

Then there's SubSeven.... :D

[Kwinnie Bogan]

^ I remember some totsean motherfucker linking me to a page like that, and I shat bricks.

[Raziel]

Deep web is just servers without domains and/or not on search engines.

Real cool stuff would be a VPN darknet. Which is just a private VPN with full encryption and acces controll where you make the rules...

[grencez]

As I understand from the wiki, the "deep web" is just dynamically generated web content along with other web content inaccessible by search engines. Nothing /dark/ about it.

On a somewhat related note - The concept of freenet is pretty cool. http://freenetproject.org/whatis.html

[JoePedo]

Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.

:facepalm:

It's like this.

1. Zok wants to share his amateur porn stash of Oprah Winfrey with someone.

2. Zok uploads it to zoklet.net/oprahporn/ and allows virtual directory listing for that directory.

3. Zok tells friend over phone.

4. Nothing links to zoklet.net/oprahporn/, so it's not listed on search engines.

You'll notice that this "ultra-1337 s3kr1t intarnet" is a lot more boring than the crap you made up about it. How did I discover it? Usually, by having FTP access on a fucking server. What's there? Mostly completely boring odds and ends swapped for working on a project. Who all has access to it? Anyone who's ever met someone who's had a server.

Yawn. It's really fucking not that interesting or new.

[The Cheshire Cat]

robots.txt

disallow /*


Not that hard....

Deepweb isn't that exciting really. You'd be surprised at how much crap really isn't there. It's quite interesting for a bit to dial into thousands of IP's and see some of the weird shit that comes up, but it's really nothing special. Every once in a great while you'll hit on something good but the ratio isn't enough to keep me interested. Thing is though, a lot of the actual cool stuff is on non standard web ports. So trying thousands of IP's on different ports becomes tedious as fuck.

[Hammer Tank]

there's still totse on the dark internet. :cool:

[Agent 008]

there's still totse on the dark internet. :cool:

It's amusing to see all the idiots who didn't manage to decrypt the message from Jeff's TTFN, completely oblivious to what's actually going on.

[5024L]

It's amusing to see all the idiots who didn't manage to decrypt the message from Jeff's TTFN, completely oblivious to what's actually going on.

Yeah, what's going on is he shut down Totse.

Also, would Zoklet On The Go be considered invisible Internet?

[KillSwitch_J]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.

It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.

The internet just seems boring and diluted now. It's just not exciting for me anymore. I guess I'm just surfing the wrong wave.

Any links, or guides would be great.

Don't know if this will help, but this is something I came across about the invisible web recently.

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/TeachingLib/Guides/Internet/InvisibleWeb.html

[Rodrat]

It's amusing to see all the idiots who didn't manage to decrypt the message from Jeff's TTFN, completely oblivious to what's actually going on.

you know, i like you
but your really confusing at times

[KeepOnTruckin]

how about internet2? apparently universitys are using it

[S'trak'yn'yar Krongoth]

how about internet2? apparently universitys are using it

Eh?

[samguy700]

robots.txt

disallow /*


Not that hard....

Deepweb isn't that exciting really. You'd be surprised at how much crap really isn't there. It's quite interesting for a bit to dial into thousands of IP's and see some of the weird shit that comes up, but it's really nothing special. Every once in a great while you'll hit on something good but the ratio isn't enough to keep me interested. Thing is though, a lot of the actual cool stuff is on non standard web ports. So trying thousands of IP's on different ports becomes tedious as fuck.

from what i understand (which is fuckall) someone should create a database for interesting ip adreses.
also from waht i understand its sorta like you dial an ip adress and any website or anything they have put on the internet you can see

[JoePedo]

from what i understand (which is fuckall) someone should create a database for interesting ip adreses.

You're welcome to start; just start typing everything from "http://0.0.0.0/" to "http://255.255.255.255/" into your browser. Bonus points if you portscan each on telnet. ;)

It's still not going to dig up most of the really boring thing that's being discussed, however. That's because it mostly consists of someone who runs a website throwing random shit into an unlinked directory.

Seriously. Nearly everyone who has run a website has done this at somepoint or another. Get yourself a free geoshitties website sometime and see if you can figure out when or why someone might do these things. ;)

also from waht i understand its sorta like you dial an ip adress and any website or anything they have put on the internet you can see

Bit more complex; there's shit like ports and .htaccess.

But fuck, basically, close enough for now, yeah.

[Raziel]

You're welcome to start; just start typing everything from "http://0.0.0.0/" to "http://255.255.255.255/" into your browser. Bonus points if you portscan each on telnet.

Angry IP scanner...
http://www.angryziber.com/w/Download

[Raziel]

Try these:


RANGE 62
62.0.0.1 - 62.30.255.255

RANGE 64
64.70.*.*
64.224.*
64.225.*
64.226.*
Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5818

[Agent 008]

Try these:

Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5818

http://64.70.152.34/ :eek:

[reallystupidstuff]

Try these:

Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5818

Scanning rang 62...


OH WOW! Thats fucking AWESOME :eek:

[Raziel]

http://64.70.152.34/ :eek:

lol, Looks like DoD finally found out how to set a 404 page..

[13579]

A friend showed me something that I guess could be considered in this thread.

He went to some search website where you entered somebody's name and birthday or some shit.

He entered Zeus as the name, forgot the other details. But from whatever he typed in, instead of searching like the website would normally do, it went to some other, very strange website with....interesting information on it.

I should ask him about that again...

EDIT: Also, if you have fast internet, get Tor running. There are some websites that can only be accessed with it (Though, from what I understand, a good amount of it is CP. Apparently there's a website on there called TorPedo).

I wish I had faster internet....services like Tor don't work with dialup.

[asilentbob]

Fucking good days man.

I remember I was searching around hacking sites and came on a website and there was an image of a cop car with flashing sirens and the message 'your IP has been logged: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'. I shit myself and yanked the plug out of my computer.

Then there's SubSeven.... :D

I remember a couple sites like that. Yeah I shat bricks.

Deep web is just servers without domains and/or not on search engines.

Real cool stuff would be a VPN darknet. Which is just a private VPN with full encryption and acces controll where you make the rules...

Yeah, seems a lot of people are confusing deep web/net with dark web/net. You can search the deep web/net somewhat by searching databases whose content is not indexed by search engines... and again, the unlisted/indexed directories and files around could be considered deep web/net. Dark web/net is more like if you computer is not specifically trusted you wont be able to access it... like secure FTP servers and such where only a hand full of people have access... as I understand it.

As I understand from the wiki, the "deep web" is just dynamically generated web content along with other web content inaccessible by search engines. Nothing /dark/ about it.

On a somewhat related note - The concept of freenet is pretty cool. http://freenetproject.org/whatis.html

Yup a lot of the deep web/net is just dynamically generated stuff or stuff that search engines don't index. EX. Facebook gives users the option to let search engines index users profiles... so doing a facebook search returns all users where as a google search only returns indexed users. So the un-indexed users info could be considered deep web/net.

Freenet is a cool concept, I have not messed around with it yet though.

Tor hidden services are interesting too.

[reallystupidstuff]

So say I started scanning some of those do not scan ip ranges...

And say I went through and pinged at random...


This is completely hypothetical and all...


Will the fbi bust in my door?

[Agent 008]

Will the fbi bust in my door?

Depends, but give me your address anyway just in case.

[Staples_AOK]

Oh man. Those were the days!

When you would descend into the underground web hell, get a shitload of weird shortcuts on your desktop, and then wham! Your dial-up disconnects, and your computer starts dialing a dial-in porn site number on the other end of the world!

happened to me, I was on my grandfathers computer looking up kiddie hacks and porn and boom, internet disconnects!

I get back on, and everything seems fine, but little did I know the dark side of things..

next thing you know he has a bill for a couple thousand dollars for connecting to some dial-in porn site! this back in 2002 or so

[Agent 008]

happened to me, I was on my grandfathers computer looking up kiddie hacks and porn and boom, internet disconnects!

I get back on, and everything seems fine, but little did I know the dark side of things..

next thing you know he has a bill for a couple thousand dollars for connecting to some dial-in porn site! this back in 2002 or so

You serious?

I remember, I used to be really paranoid about this happening. Especially if the computer was left on, I was out of the house, and it started dialling it on its own (which could easily happen).

[reallystupidstuff]

I have scanned 23% 64.70.***.*** range, a rand specified DO NOT SCAN and I aint got shit :mad:

[Mankonaut X]

This thread reminds me of this one story from 2600 from back in the day that I always loved:

The Scariest Number in the World (December, 1984)
Recently, a telephone fanatic in the northwest made an interesting discovery. He was exploring the 804 area code (Virginia) and found out that the 840 exchange did something strange. In the vast majority of cases, in fact in all of the cases except one, he would get a recording as if the exchange didn’t exist. However, if he dialed 804-840 and four rather predictable numbers, he got a ring!
After one or two rings, somebody picked up. Being experienced at this kind of thing, he could tell that the call didn’t “supervise,” that is, no charges were being incurred for calling this number. (Calls that get you to an error message, or a special operator, generally don’t supe.) A female voice, with a hint of a southern accent said, “Operator, can I help you?”
“Yes,” he said. “What number have I reached?”
“What number did you dial, sir?”
He made up a number that was similar.
“I’m sorry, that’s not the number you reached.” Click.
He was fascinated. What in the world was this? He knew he was going to call back, but before he did, he tried some more experiments. He tried the 840 exchange in several other area codes. In some, it came up as a valid exchange. In others, exactly the same thing happened—the same last four digits, the same southern belle. Oddly enough, he later noticed, the areas it worked in seemed to travel in a beeline from Washington D.C. to Pittsburgh, PA. He called back from a pay phone.
“Operator, can I help you?”
“Yes, this is the phone company. I’m testing this line and we don’t seem to have an identification on your circuit. What office is this, please?”
“What number are you trying to reach?”
“I’m not trying to reach any number. I’m trying to identify this circuit.”
“I’m sorry, I can’t help you.”
“Ma’am, if I don’t get an ID on this line, I’ll have to disconnect it. We show no record of it here.”
“Hold on a moment, sir.”
After about a minute, she came back. “Sir, I can have someone speak to you. Would you give me your number, please?”
He had anticipated this and he had the pay phone number ready. After he gave it, she said, “Mr. XXX will get right back to you.”
“Thanks.” He hung up the phone. It rang. Instantly! “Oh my God,” he thought, “They weren’t asking for my number; they were confirming it!”
“Hello,” he said, trying to sound authoritative.
“This is Mr. XXX. Did you just make an inquiry to my office concerning a phone number?”
“Yes. I need an identi—”
“What you need is advice. Don’t ever call that number again. Don’t even think about calling that number again. Forget you ever knew it.”
At this point our friend got so nervous he just hung up. He expected to hear the phone ring again but it didn’t.
Over the next few days he racked his brains trying to figure out what the number was. He knew it was something big—that was pretty certain at this point. It was so big that the number was programmed into every central office in the country. He knew this because if he tried to dial any other number in that exchange, he’d get a local error message from his CO, as if the exchange didn’t exist.
It finally came to him. He had an uncle who worked in a federal agency. He had a feeling that this was government related and if it was, his uncle could probably find out what it was. He asked the next day and his uncle promised to look into the matter.
The next time he saw his uncle, he noticed a big change in his manner. He was trembling.
“Where did you get that number?” he shouted. “Do you know I almost got fired for asking about it?! They kept wanting to know where I got it!”
Our friend couldn’t contain his excitement. “What is it?” he pleaded. “What’s the number?!”
“It’s the President’s bomb shelter!”
He never called the number after that. He knew that he could probably cause quite a bit of excitement by calling the number and saying something like, “The weather’s not good in Washington. We’re coming over for a visit.” But our friend was smart. He knew that there were some things that were better off unsaid and undone.

Just wanted to share :)

[Agent 008]

I have scanned 23% 64.70.***.*** range, a rand specified DO NOT SCAN and I aint got shit :mad:

You serious?

I just pinged a random IP, 64.70.152.34, and I got this: http://64.70.152.34/

[TripleDot]

You serious?

I just pinged a random IP, 64.70.152.34, and I got this: http://64.70.152.34/
Temporarily Disabled.

[Erorr]

Awful lot of thanks going on in these parts....

[Jerry]

This is the happiest thread I've been in in quite some time.

[v0x]

I remember that story Mankonaut, very good one. Anyway, whether you call it deep web or dark web, it's what we know as where all the REALLY interesting and (before you found it) secret things are.Iit could include a hidden/protected/un-indexed website, an "interesting" FTP server, a telnet login prompt for an extinct cult, countless insecure VNC's, and a ton of other stuff (those are just a few I've found). Other things are secret/controlled networks, chains of servers used to communicate between groups, and custom client/server architectures used for control or distribution (things I haven't found). The dark/deep web can be tons of things, but it's all clandestine. I know I'm sounding like a crackpot conspiracy theorist, or complete noob, but it's true. There's a lot of hidden and very interesting stuff out there. Whenever I have nothing to do (i.e. almost never), I try to explore it. Sometiems I don't get anywhere, sometimes I hit multiple gold mines. Port scanners help, as do proxies and bruteforcers. It's like urban exploration on the internet. You can find incomplete stuff, old stuff, and dangerous stuff. But it's all very interesting, and fun. One of the best hobbies around.

[The_Table_File]

It's just stuff that can't be picked up by search engines like Limewire and other peer to peer networks. It's not as awesome as it sounds. I bet there's a loooooooot of CP in them thar hills though.

What is CP?.

[samguy700]

It's just stuff that can't be picked up by search engines like Limewire and other peer to peer networks. It's not as awesome as it sounds. I bet there's a loooooooot of CP in them thar hills though.

Damn, that's a shame.

all that cp just sitting there not being fapped to

[Crackpot Pyschologist]

It's fucking awesome when you know how to use it because you can find all sorts of random information.

I was looking for some info on this (used to have a bunch of places bookmarked), forgot about it, and now just remembered. will n33d f0r z1n3

....a zine...on the deep web......epic:eek:

what will this heavenly tome be named??

[samguy700]

What is CP?.

it stands for "complete portal" which is short for "complete portal to heaven" it originates back ages ago, someone made windows as if it was a window into another world then someone made complete portal which is where all the stuff you want is located, not some 40+ porno

[Crackpot Pyschologist]

Try these:

Actually don't... No really don't...

http://www.governmentsecurity.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5818

WHAT THE FUCK! you IDIOT! why didnt you put a warning?? i clicked that link, and the characteristic "whirring" sound that usually comes up when i stumble upon a government monitored website started from my laptop. now they'll probly raid my house and say i was Hax0rz teh pentagon when i dont even know how to cook toast without burning it. Raziel, im not angry, im dissapointed.

[Agent 008]

WHAT THE FUCK! you IDIOT! why didnt you put a warning?? i clicked that link, and the characteristic "whirring" sound that usually comes up when i stumble upon a government monitored website started from my laptop. now they'll probly raid my house and say i was Hax0rz teh pentagon when i dont even know how to cook toast without burning it. Raziel, im not angry, im dissapointed.

Learn the "Hacker's Manifesto" by heart, and when they are questioning you or when the opportunity arises, recite it all in a dramatic voice. It won't save you, but at least it would instantly make the whole thing a lot more epic.

[grawity]

I wonder why hasn't anyone mentioned Freenet or I2P or WinNY or all the other anonymous network stuff.

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Bump

[Raziel]

I have scanned 23% 64.70.***.*** range, a rand specified DO NOT SCAN and I aint got shit :mad:

Use nmap with some 1337 command line options...(force scanning). Whoever administers these servers most likely blocks ping.

[Raziel]

WHAT THE FUCK! you IDIOT! why didnt you put a warning?? i clicked that link, and the characteristic "whirring" sound that usually comes up when i stumble upon a government monitored website started from my laptop. now they'll probly raid my house and say i was Hax0rz teh pentagon when i dont even know how to cook toast without burning it. Raziel, im not angry, im dissapointed.

What Agent 008 said should save you from most of the flac.

[lvl99]

I wonder why hasn't anyone mentioned Freenet or I2P or WinNY or all the other anonymous network stuff.

Some sort of noob walk-through would be nice. It's just getting started that's difficult. I'm going to give freenet a try this upcoming weekend, but I don't think that'll find anything cool. I'll report what I find, if anything. Some guidance would be nice.

[Raziel]

Some sort of noob walk-through would be nice. It's just getting started that's difficult. I'm going to give freenet a try this upcoming weekend, but I don't think that'll find anything cool. I'll report what I find, if anything. Some guidance would be nice.

Have you yet to master the art of google-fu?

http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FirstTimersHandBook

[samguy700]

Is this how hacking works?
I ve never known where to start with it but always been intregued.
people that know alot about these things dont seem to realise how fucking hard it is to start out as a noob, i mean i dident even know where to start back when i was 12 and had loads of time on my hands, wish i d known of totse back then.
thats why i always try and help noobs nomatter how kiddiotic they are, aslong as they know their place (which is the oposite of kidiot i know) and ask nicely i always try and help them.
once you have a blanquet knowledge ie you know the basics, then its much easyer to start and get places.

ps: anybody else google ip adress lookup, 5th one down, type in website, cp (.....if only) ip adress into browser, hey hey the school's blocking system is bypassed

[Agent 008]

Is this how hacking works?
I ve never known where to start with it but always been intregued.

Yes, that's exactly how hacking works.

[grawity]

I'm going to give freenet a try this upcoming weekend, but I don't think that'll find anything cool. I'll report what I find, if anything.

Porn.

The way Freenet is written, it's impossible to censor or block any file from being inserted, and it's almost impossible to find out who inserted or requested this or that data, all is totally anonymous - so yes, it has child porn and other stuff. If one doesn't like some material, he is supposed to simply ignore it - there's no JavaScript, no ads, nothing forces you to view something. Just like in Internet you don't google for "llama sex" if you don't want to. [UserFriendly reference]

Anyway, technologically Freenet is quite a good thing - except there's nothing good in it (because nobody uses it (because many new users run away due to the high amount of porn or the low amount of interesting content (rinse and repeat))). But if you're interested in freedom, anonymity, etc, try it.

(Poke me if you need help installing)

[samguy700]

Porn.

The way Freenet is written, it's impossible to censor or block any file from being inserted, and it's almost impossible to find out who inserted or requested this or that data, all is totally anonymous - so yes, it has child porn and other stuff. If one doesn't like some material, he is supposed to simply ignore it - there's no JavaScript, no ads, nothing forces you to view something. Just like in Internet you don't google for "llama sex" if you don't want to. [UserFriendly reference]

Anyway, technologically Freenet is quite a good thing - except there's nothing good in it (because nobody uses it (because many new users run away due to the high amount of porn or the low amount of interesting content (rinse and repeat))). But if you're interested in freedom, anonymity, etc, try it.

(Poke me if you need help installing)

newb overveiw?
is it like limewire?
if it is then they should have categories so it isent a whole pit full of everything you have to sort through, and everyone that downloads it should have to vote, like porn category or gaming cagtegory etc, sorta like urban dictionary.

siriously its anonymous? so those dirty death deserving pedophiles >insert some justification as to why they are bad< wont be caught?

[Crackpot Pyschologist]

What Agent 008 said should save you from most of the flac.

Sorry bout the outburst my friend, the stress got to my head.

[grawity]

newb overveiw?
is it like limewire?
if it is then they should have categories so it isent a whole pit full of everything you have to sort through, and everyone that downloads it should have to vote, like porn category or gaming cagtegory etc, sorta like urban dictionary.

siriously its anonymous? so those dirty death deserving pedophiles >insert some justification as to why they are bad< wont be caught?

It's anonymous, doesn't matter if you like it or not.
There's no centralized search - you either know the address, or start from an "index page", of which a few are in your default bookmarks, and then browse all the "freesites" listed. It's like a small anonymous www.
There's this thing called Frost, though, which is like Usenet and LimeWire - there are boards with posts and replies, and there's a filesharing section which does have a searchable index of all that's shared through Frost. (If the file was inserted another way, it won't be in the search results.) There are ebooks, there are a few MP3s, there are a few ALICE-based spam bots that are annoying as hell.
Frost is a Java app, and to access freesites you go through http://localhost:8888/ aka Fproxy. To just insert and retrieve arbitrary files, both can be used - they just give the requests to the main Freenet app.

[grawity]

Freenet beginner's step-by-step tutorial:
- Install.
- Choose Opennet mode.
- Wait for your node to connect to the rest of the network.
- Open Fproxy in your browser.
- Click on a bookmark for "The Ultimate Freenet Index".
- Browse the pages, get bored of slowness.
- Download Frost, read the boards, wait for the file list to load.
- Search for anything (or everything, a blank search box works)
- Get bored.
- Uninstall.

[samguy700]

with this freenet or frost, do you have to download or is it just veiw?

I have frostwire. if thats similar, anyone who thinks its full of Copyright, it doesent even have 3 gigs of it, fucking lies and misinformation, but hey heres a tip, if you find something you like, right click then find host and look through R@ygold's files you might find some pathetic or it might all be shitty soft stuff, also try searching /b/ as another search option.

hey you guys, i ve been reading up on the other forums about shadowcrew and darkmarket, how would one go about hacking an insurance company etc for credit card numbers?
i dont want to do it i just like to know what level of skill is required, cus the reporter said that most of these guys could probly do well using their skills for security companys, though thinking about it, if you were a hacker, do you think you could swing round and suddenly turn against them?

[Raziel]

with this freenet or frost, do you have to download or is it just veiw?

I have frostwire. if thats similar, anyone who thinks its full of Copyright, it doesent even have 3 gigs of it, fucking lies and misinformation, but hey heres a tip, if you find something you like, right click then find host and look through R@ygold's files you might find some pathetic or it might all be shitty soft stuff, also try searching /b/ as another search option.

hey you guys, i ve been reading up on the other forums about shadowcrew and darkmarket, how would one go about hacking an insurance company etc for credit card numbers?
i dont want to do it i just like to know what level of skill is required, cus the reporter said that most of these guys could probly do well using their skills for security companys, though thinking about it, if you were a hacker, do you think you could swing round and suddenly turn against them?
:facepalm:

[asilentbob]

First p2p program I really used was kazaa (hah, remember those days where you would download one song at a time? As opposed to these days where we just say fuck it and get the whole discography?)... then as legal shit started to hit it more and I got bigger and bigger hard drives I noticed that there were a few other programs that were similar... but nothing different enough that I wanted to use it... so for a 2 years or so I really didn't download anything, just listened to old music, played computer games, and got more into pyro. Then at some point I heard about bittorrent. So I looked it up and saw how it was so much more efficient than kazaa for distributing content quickly. Then I spent a few minutes searching random shit on a torrent indexing site like isohunt... and I was blown away by just how much stuff was available. It was as if for every individual song available on kazaa... there was an entire album available on the bittorrent network... and the porn... oh god, the porn selection was sooooooo much better. I have never looked back.

uTorrent + peer guardian + Privoxy + Tor (only for resolving host names, not the p2p connections, that would be WAY too slow and taxing on the Tor network.) Then set up the bandwidth scheduler on uTorrent so that it goes full upload speed when you sleep and an acceptable upload speed when you are awake so as to not disturb your browsing too much. Actually, if you have an old dedicated downloading/seeding box, it can work quite well and you can use uTorrent's remote web user interface to control it from anywhere, including your smart phone. You have to get a dynDNS free account and set up port forwarding on your router... but that's trivial.

I have a 1TB external drive that has pretty much all stuff gotten through bittorrent. And I only have like 35GB free right now.

[lvl99]

Well, I just installed freenet. I'm going to wait a couple of hours before I actually explore it, as it recommends. I don't have any known friends in it yet, so we'll see what I'll find.

[grawity]

with this freenet or frost, do you have to download or is it just veiw?

I have frostwire. if thats similar, anyone who thinks its full of Copyright, it doesent even have 3 gigs of it, fucking lies and misinformation, but hey heres a tip, if you find something you like, right click then find host and look through R@ygold's files you might find some pathetic or it might all be shitty soft stuff, also try searching /b/ as another search option.


Nope.
FrostWire is an alternate to LimeWire, it uses LW network. It's not anonymous. I don't know about its contents.
Frost is a different program, and it uses the Freenet.

The core of Freenet is simply inserting and retrieving files. But there are several ways to use it:
- Freesites through Fproxy. They look just like any other website or blog.
- File sharing using Frost. (NOT FrostWire.)
- some more things
Overall its usage is similar to today's HTTP and FTP, only it's distributed.

[samguy700]

Nope.
FrostWire is an alternate to LimeWire, it uses LW network. It's not anonymous. I don't know about its contents.
Frost is a different program, and it uses the Freenet.

The core of Freenet is simply inserting and retrieving files. But there are several ways to use it:
- Freesites through Fproxy. They look just like any other website or blog.
- File sharing using Frost. (NOT FrostWire.)
- some more things
Overall its usage is similar to today's HTTP and FTP, only it's distributed.

so how could i download copyrighted material anonymously? if forstwire isent then what is?

[Staples_AOK]

You serious?

I remember, I used to be really paranoid about this happening. Especially if the computer was left on, I was out of the house, and it started dialling it on its own (which could easily happen).

yeah it sucked, everyone thought i did it, and i was pretty embarassed

idle desktop is the devil's workshop?

[Raziel]

so how could i download copyrighted material anonymously? if forstwire isent then what is?

C***d porn is shit...

[EDITED BY Expl0itz]

[The Cheshire Cat]

This thread is now reserved for what we find in the invisible/deep/dark/whatever net. Any gems that you find, and would like to share post them here. :D

[samguy700]

C***d porn is shit...

why?
cus the girls dont arouse you?
the movie isent made, like they dont go hardenough or stick it in the right place?
the quality is bad?

[samguy700]

This thread is now reserved for what we find in the invisible/deep/dark/whatever net. Any gems that you find, and would like to share post them here. :D

fucking this

[grawity]

so how could i download copyrighted material anonymously? if forstwire isent then what is?

By using Frost, Mr Can'tread.
Don't ask me where exactly - I don't waste my time downloading CraP.

[grawity]

So anyway, since this thread is now a place to post interesting stuff, here's what I spent hours googling for.
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/
http://files.oldos.org/files/macdl/
Yeah, I'm one of those people who have a virtual machine of everything.

[samguy700]

By using Frost, Mr Can'tread.
Don't ask me where exactly - I don't waste my time downloading CraP.

meme is born

[SLIM]

[REMOVED BY Expl0itz]

Freenet is awesome.
i2p is brilliant for anonymous torrenting.
Tor is good if you're looking for gay, and directing eMule traffic through it. Make sure to erase everything from the incoming folder though. It is not private. Companies search that folder for copyright violations along with your IP address. As far as onion sites go there are a lot not shown on toogle; hang around the Tor forums and IRC to learn more.


I'm wanting to start up an old school BBS with telnet; there are still some of these around, some carders use these for all their comunication and vending. Don't bother asking me for any, I'm not giving them to you.

[The Cheshire Cat]

Anyone else asking for CP in this thread is going to get a ban. Same goes for the person who gives them information. I'm not going to have this shit in my fucking forum. No matter how discrete you're trying to be.

[SLIM]

Sorry...

[samguy700]

i already saw it, ok so no asking for cp, but asking how to get it and where to find it is ok?
and talking about it is ok too?
just not asking FOR it, where to find etc is all ok right?

ok i wont ask for it and i l try and not talk about it/where to find it in your forum if i can help it.
(i m not even sure how asking FOR cp would work)

[The Cheshire Cat]

It's alright. You didn't know, but now you do.

This also goes for 'questionable' material as well. So, asking and/or posting of Child Pornography (and or very questionable material) will get you banned. Shit, I'll even try to get you permanently banned just because you want to push your luck.

i already saw it, ok so no asking for cp, but asking how to get it and where to find it is ok?
and talking about it is ok too?
just not asking FOR it, where to find etc is all ok right?

ok i wont ask for it and i l try and not talk about it/where to find it in your forum if i can help it.
(i m not even sure how asking FOR cp would work)

No asking, No telling of where to find it, no talking about it! I don't want it in my forum. And Child Porn has NOTHING to do with security.

[Idiosyncrasy]

The invisible internet is another way of saying intranet. For example, most corporations have an intranet that you can only access if you are using a company machine and are logged in through one of their designated ports. This is where all the corporate secrets are shared. It is not accessible outside of the corporate servers, even though you access like you are on the internet when you're at work. It's all about priviledges and awareness, not whether something is deep and dark. If you don't have sufficient priviledges, then you can't access the network server. If you aren't aware that it exists (i.e., it isn't indexed with search engines or someone doesn't tell you about it), then it is "hidden."

I know you just want an awesome conspiracy theory, but the truth is that the internet isn't really all that complicated.

[grawity]

Anyone else asking for CP in this thread is going to get a ban. Same goes for the person who gives them information. I'm not going to have this shit in my fucking forum. No matter how discrete you're trying to be.

Agreed. *hides*

[samguy700]

It's alright. You didn't know, but now you do.

This also goes for 'questionable' material as well. So, asking and/or posting of Child Pornography (and or very questionable material) will get you banned. Shit, I'll even try to get you permanently banned just because you want to push your luck.



No asking, No telling of where to find it, no talking about it! I don't want it in my forum. And Child Porn has NOTHING to do with security.

what if you want to penetrate the( i hear weak) security of...... nvm but it does.

[13579]

Here's a question:

What's a good way to 'find' these websites? I've only stumbled upon them using www.g2p.org to find files...

[KillSwitch_J]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

Does anyone here access this dark web? It sounds so fake, lol. If so, how did you discover it? what's there? lol. Thanks.

It's just that I remember the windows 98 days when the internet was considered dangerous. When warez use to be the shit, so you manoeuvred your way through the correct links to download your files, while being bombarded with porn.

The internet just seems boring and diluted now. It's just not exciting for me anymore. I guess I'm just surfing the wrong wave.

Any links, or guides would be great.

I don't think this is what you were originally asking about, but it might still be of interest to you. This was brought to my attention by Mutant Funk Drink (props to him) in another thread.


I2P (originally short for Invisible Internet Project,[1] though it is not commonly referred to by this name anymore) is a mixed-license free and open source project building an anonymous network (or, more accurately, a pseudonymous overlay network).

The network is a simple layer that applications can use to anonymously and securely send messages to each other. Possible uses include anonymous surfing, chatting, blogging and file transfers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P

[The Cheshire Cat]

Might as well update this thread with shit that I find through the day.

FCC anyone
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/

All the releases of Firefox. For those that wish they could downgrade

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/

Opera Browser anyone?

http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/

A WTF log list.

http://www.mfacmchicago.org/logs/access.log

[SLIM]

I don't think this is what you were originally asking about, but it might still be of interest to you. This was brought to my attention by Mutant Funk Drink (props to him) in another thread.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P

Like I said earlier, it's brilliant for torrenting.

[Raziel]

so how could i download copyrighted material anonymously? if forstwire isent then what is?

Usenet rocks.

[SLIM]

Fuck paying for usenext.

[Raziel]

Fuck paying for usenext.

Fuck paying for usenet indeed...

[Raziel]

Its free here.

[SLIM]

Anyone fancy coming phishing for some usenext accounts?

[grawity]

Usenet is a discussion network, damnit.

[Raziel]

Anyone fancy coming phishing for some usenext accounts?

usenext is just a provider, but good idea!

Usenet is a discussion network, damnit.

Thats not how I roll with it.

[Raziel]

Usenet is a discussion network, damnit.

http://www.newsdemon.com/average_feed_size.php
Yes, thats a shit load of discussion.

[v0x]

Usenet is, unfortunately, past it's peak, in terms of discussion. I feel sorry for it :(. Many people are going there for warez though. Personally, when I'm in need of a program, I search everywhere, Usenet included.

[Raziel]

I only ever used it for warez... And when it comes to warez, the golden age of usenet has only just started.