Vegetarians

[Hemitrocks]

why the fuck would you be a vegetarian. why not have a balanced diet? and meat tastes good. because you dont want to kill animals? there gonna die anyways. seriously whats the point

[LSA King]

For some vegetarians meat actually just taste sick to them kind of how some people (myself included) find vegetables disgusting and repulsive despite how good they are for you. Carrots are about all I can stand and help you god I will throw up if any are heated including carrots.

The other 90% that are just afraid of meat because we slit the animals throat and drain there blood to kill it are a bunch of vaginas. Starve yourself from meat I don't care all because you would rather worship the cow like India does despite 10's of millions are starving in that country they have the highest population of cows in the world in that nation.

More meat for us and keeps the dollar menu active.

[Anima Mundi]

I find that when I don't eat meat, I feel far better. I have more energy, less fatigue, etc. I couldn't give a fuck less about animals or suffering, but if it will make me healthier and save animal and human lives, then why not?

[Cliche Guevara]

I don't understand how some vegetarians eat eggs and diary, if your going to be against it you should be against it hell, you shouldnt even be wearing any clothes because god knows the chinese laborer who weaved your clothes wouldnt have been able to sustain himself on shitty rice alone, nor should you take any life saving anti biotics or vaccines or any drugs because they ahve all been inhumanly tested on animals.

in the end if you are true vegan, you should be living in virgin forests eating nuts and fruits. (careful not to step on any bugs or anything)

[jackketch]

Look on any vegetard's bookshelf and you'll find the complete Harry Potter collection.

I rest my case.

[Hemitrocks]

I find that when I don't eat meat, I feel far better. I have more energy, less fatigue, etc. I couldn't give a fuck less about animals or suffering, but if it will make me healthier and save animal and human lives, then why not?
ive heard people say that but i love meat and if you are going to be a vegetarian i would rather have people thinking your way and not the ohhhhh poor animals and meats nasty way

[Hemitrocks]

For some vegetarians meat actually just taste sick to them kind of how some people (myself included) find vegetables disgusting and repulsive despite how good they are for you. Carrots are about all I can stand and help you god I will throw up if any are heated including carrots.

The other 90% that are just afraid of meat because we slit the animals throat and drain there blood to kill it are a bunch of vaginas. Starve yourself from meat I don't care all because you would rather worship the cow like India does despite 10's of millions are starving in that country they have the highest population of cows in the world in that nation.

More meat for us and keeps the dollar menu active.


i dont understand how people can say meat and or vegetables are disgusting. i eat meat because it tastes good and is good for you and i eat vegetables for the same exact reason. i dont get why people cant eat a little of everything.

good post tho

[Iskalla]

I like animals and dislike factory farming and the meat industry, therefore I don't eat meat or fish. That's why I'm a vegetarian.

[i poop in your cereal]

I don't understand how some vegetarians eat eggs and diary, if your going to be against it you should be against it hell, you shouldnt even be wearing any clothes because god knows the chinese laborer who weaved your clothes wouldnt have been able to sustain himself on shitty rice alone, nor should you take any life saving anti biotics or vaccines or any drugs because they ahve all been inhumanly tested on animals.

in the end if you are true vegan, you should be living in virgin forests eating nuts and fruits. (careful not to step on any bugs or anything)

Nazi-veggies are retarded, but I respect the rational ones. What's wrong with a little damage control? You know, not causing any unnecesarry pain etc.

[LSA King]

i dont understand how people can say meat and or vegetables are disgusting. i eat meat because it tastes good and is good for you and i eat vegetables for the same exact reason. i dont get why people cant eat a little of everything.

good post tho




I agree there is always something good in each food category whether its as big of a selection as the breads and grains or meats and fruits. There are still some vegetables I would eat if I had to. Perhaps its because America grows up with a sweet tooth unlike 20-30 years go when you were forced to eat a square meal each meal when you were a child. Now sweets and fast foods are what kids want. That started decades ago and I think its in our blood. Just look at kids nowadays they are overweight coming out of the womb! Diabetes was never a huge problem 2-3 decades ago and now its running rampant with children.

[skinny love]

i don't enjoy the taste of meat. i also don't enjoy killing animals to eat their body parts. it's just convenient for me to be a vegetarian.

[*ivy]

I was a veggie for 7 years, mainly out of principle to begin with (I was 13, I needed something to rebel against), then when I started eating it again, it made me ill.

Recently, I started eating it again and it's done wonders for my health. My nails, hair and skin are in better condition, I have more energy and concentrating is easier.

On a side note: it was the bacon that did it.

[LSA King]

Bacon is the most delecious of all meats! Speaking of good health and more energy drinking more water (8 glasses a day) and an hour of workout makes you feel like a rockstar. One thing I got from the army is drinking lots of water. You would be surprised out how shitty you really feel when you aren't drinking just water. You energy will double instantly.

[Irukanji]

Vege's are the best
















With a massive slab of steak on the side.

And pig is the greatest animal ever invented,

[Crashwangdoodle]

I guess some people think its healthier and so on. For me its just that i was brought up like that and im not really going to change that. I'm some veggiefag that goes on protests against mcdonalds and such. Just eat whatever the fuck you want.

[lostmyface]

here are a number of reasons that people choose vegetarianism. The main reasons can be summarized into health, ethical, and environmental concerns, explained below, as well as religious and cultural reasons.

1. Health Reasons for Vegetarianism
The most common reason for vegetarianism is for better health. A well-balanced vegetarian diet is very healthy, and can help to prevent/control a number of health problems, including

* High cholesterol
* Obesity
* Diabetes

Note, however, that vegetarianism is not fool-proof. A decision to stop eating meat will not automatically give you good health; you need to plan your meals and eat a wide variety of the foods included in your type of vegetarianism.

More information:

* Vegetarian nutrition
* Health reasons for not eating animals

2. Ethical Reasons for Vegetarianism
Some vegetarians believe that it is unnecessary and/or cruel to raise animals for food. There are two parts to this belief:

1. Eating animals is wrong.
2. Animals raised for food are treated poorly.*

Ethical vegetarianism can be based on either or both of the above beliefs.

Examples of questionable treatment:

* Boiled alive: Lobster and other shellfish are not killed before they are cooked.
* Confinement and starvation: New-born calves are locked in crates, not allowed to move, and underfed until they are slaughtered and served as veal.
* Hormones: Cows are fed growth hormones so that they produce more milk.
* Factory farming: Chickens are packed so tightly into cages that they can barely move. Excrement falls through the stacked cages onto chickens below.

*Those concerned about the latter may be semi-vegetarians, choosing to eat free-range chicken and other humanely-treated animals if and when they are available.

More information:

* Factory farming: Lobsters
* Animal rights

3. Environmental Reasons for Vegetarianism
Raising animals for food wastes resources, because food gives up only part of its energy to the eater. When chickens eat grain, they get part of its energy. When humans eat chicken, they get only a part of the energy that the chicken got from the grain. By cutting out the "middle chicken" and eating the grain directly, humans get more energy, and more people can get fed.

Land produces much more food when used for farming rather than grazing.

Other problems caused by raising animals for food:

* Methane gas, a cause of the greenhouse effect, is produced by cows and other animals.
* Animals contribute to water, air, and land pollution.
* Grazing leads to a loss of topsoil.

[unstableasatable]

if we all ate vegatables we would not need to ut down so many forest and destroy habitats , due to piramids of biomoss. carbon levels in the atmosphere would also be significantly less.
i am not a veggylesbian but a proud meat muncher

[lostmyface]

i am not veggie either. but i understand why some choose that life style and i respect them for their life choices.

[JChifty]

I swallow meat and I'm not ashamed of it.

[Mutant Funk Drink]

I love vegetarians. They're so kind that they're willing to sacrifice their share of meat for me to eat. I'm glad that vegetarians are there to make sure that there's always plenty of tasty meat to go around.

[JC Denton]

My reason for being vegetarian is mostly because I believe it's very primitive behavior. I can understand when cavemen would eat, they needed it to survive. Now theirs other ways to get the essential nutrients present in meat without torturing/killing animals, and getting diseases from all the bad fat, cholesterol, hormones, preservatives, toxins, and diseases in the animals themselves like mad cow disease. The protein in most meats (except for maybe veal( is also the most difficult to digest relative to whey or soy protein. My grandpa died from a diet of mostly red meat. It clogged up all his veins and eventually he got AD and dementia, from the lack of circulation to his brain.

I've been a vegetarian for at least 3-4 years now, and i've never had better strength, stamina, concentration and sense of well-being than ever before. However, I don't just attribute it to my diet, so I'm not suggesting you go vegetarian if you're just going to be a lazy couch potato anyway. You might have to supplement with taurine and (acetyl)L-carnitine if you adopt this diet. You also have to make sure your getting atleast 50 grams of protein daily, and avoid soy protein if you're a guy (bad for your testosterone levels).

[elf omg]

My reason for being vegetarian should not be an issue.

What upsets me is that it's perfectly acceptable to bitch about vegetarians, but if we say ONE thing about the subject we're ragged on.

I don't think less of you for eating meat, so please give me the same courtesy.

[Acacia]

why the fuck would you be a vegetarian. why not have a balanced diet? and meat tastes good. because you dont want to kill animals? there gonna die anyways. seriously whats the point

I don't like the tasteof red meat.. Doesn't mean i'm a vegetarian. I can eat a steak on ocassion. But I like other meats like chicken and ham :]

[LSA King]

My reason for being vegetarian should not be an issue.

What upsets me is that it's perfectly acceptable to bitch about vegetarians, but if we say ONE thing about the subject we're ragged on.

I don't think less of you for eating meat, so please give me the same courtesy.




Without eating meat your gonig to have a serious protein deficiency and grow vaginas on your body. Didn't you watch South Park :confused:

[Mantikore]

Look on any vegetard's bookshelf and you'll find the complete Harry Potter collection.

I rest my case.

the scary thing is that i know exactly what youre talking about:eek:

[Tokerface]

Without eating meat your gonig to have a serious protein deficiency and grow vaginas on your body. Didn't you watch South Park? :confused:

LOL. :D

[princessnoodles]

I'm vegetarian because the concept of eating something that is dead disturbs me.
and i dont like the taste.

[Bad_Intentions]

My reason for being vegetarian should not be an issue.

What upsets me is that it's perfectly acceptable to bitch about vegetarians, but if we say ONE thing about the subject we're ragged on.

I don't think less of you for eating meat, so please give me the same courtesy.

Couldn't have said it better. It gets to the point that I avoid telling people I'm a vegan. You think WE like to push our views? Ha.

[Slave of the Beast]

I'm vegetarian because the concept of eating something that is dead disturbs me.

Be careful, there's a guy around here called PizzaNazi who'll say: "What do you think a plant is once you've pulled it out of the ground"?

and i dont like the taste.

Fair enough.

[skinny love]

Be careful, there's a guy around here called PizzaNazi who'll say: "What do you think a plant is once you've pulled it out of the ground"?

comparing the lives of animals to fruits and vegetables is nonsensical. if he can't understand the difference between the two, then he's retarded.

[Struwwelpeter]

Given the number of vegetables using Zoklet these days you never can tell..

[Slave of the Beast]

comparing the lives of animals to fruits and vegetables is nonsensical. if he can't understand the difference between the two, then he's retarded.

That's a pretty good summary of what I said to him in response over several posts in Humanities. He just got annoyed and extremely anal about the meaning of the word "alive".

Sad, really, because I think he knew he was being an ass but couldn't swallow his pride and let it go.

[Dfg]

Meat>Vegs.

In Pk.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

Look on any vegetard's bookshelf and you'll find the complete Harry Potter collection.

I rest my case.

Look on the bookshelf of 80% of the western world and you'll find the complete harry potter collection.

Your point still stands though.

[jackketch]

Look on the bookshelf of 80% of the western world and you'll find the complete harry potter collection.


And what does this tell us about the western world? Perhaps that it is divided between those who think HP is literature and those who can actually read?

[johnplywd]

What kind of freak does not eat meat? Really people take things way to far. Just eat a little of everything and you will be well nourished and healthy as a horse, until we kill it and eat it

[wit]

Not eating meat for personal reasons (although there are NO health benefits from simply removing animal products from your diet) is fine, its when I get told that I shouldnt eat meat either, or fucking fish/sea-kittens by the fluffy mouthbreathers of PETA that I really feel like eating something killed in the least humane way possible.

[illuminatikiller]

Look on any vegetard's bookshelf and you'll find the complete Harry Potter collection.

I rest my case.

Harry Potter is as retarded as you.

[azalie]

Last year I cut out meat for a couple of months and I noticed my hair and skin was a lot better but I love chicken and fish too much to give it up for good. I've cut out dairy though because I personally hate milk, cream and most cheeses. My sleep patterns are a lot better without it and I'm not as sluggish.

:)

[Former FBI Agent]

Bacon is the most delecious of all meats! Speaking of good health and more energy drinking more water (8 glasses a day) and an hour of workout makes you feel like a rockstar. One thing I got from the army is drinking lots of water. You would be surprised out how shitty you really feel when you aren't drinking just water. You energy will double instantly.

This most definitely. I remember when I had to cut all of the juices out of my diet for water and how much it improved my energy and general health. Can't really say the same for vegetables as I could feel my muscle mass evaporating away. A steak and some water and I'm good to go.

[skinny love]

And what does this tell us about the western world? Perhaps that it is divided between those who think HP is literature and those who can actually read?

don't blame that shit on all of the western world. we all know j.k. rowling is a dumb brit.

[The Jitterskull]

why the fuck would you be a vegetarian. why not have a balanced diet? and meat tastes good. because you dont want to kill animals? there gonna die anyways. seriously whats the point

Better than filling up on pure meat. I find a meal dry without both meat and vegetables. There needs to be both.

[wit]

Better than filling up on pure meat. I find a meal dry without both meat and vegetables. There needs to be both.
Lies. Whats unhealthy about the bacon explosion? (http://www.bbqaddicts.com/bacon-explosion.html)
Seriously though, I don't know anyone who seriously only eats meat.

[illuminatikiller]

Lies. Whats unhealthy about the bacon explosion? (http://www.bbqaddicts.com/bacon-explosion.html)
Seriously though, I don't know anyone who seriously only eats meat.

That is fucking awesome.

[Slave of the Beast]

don't blame that shit on all of the western world. we all know j.k. rowling is a dumb brit.

Well she's a lot smarter than the people who buy her books.

Roughly $800 million smarter.

[Frank]

I don't think less of you for eating meat, so please give me the same courtesy.

You might but every vegan who I've ever encountered can't wait to bitch and moan about the flesh piled on your plate. They just love to boast and brag about their "life style"

When I sit down to eat and notice somebody doesn't have any meat on their plate I don't go "Looks like we get ourselves and vegetarian here *spits* what's the matter soy boy, you too good to eat this here meat!?".

No. I doubt that has never happened.

But if I sit down with some food or god forbid a fucking cheeseburger it's "I can't see how you can tolerate eating that garbage, are you aware of the growth hormones in that, you'll be dead in 15 years and all because you had to eat poor defenseless animals who are harvested like plants and treated like dogs. I'm sooooOooo glad I don't eat flesh anymore like you uneducated, unhealthy faggot murderers!"

Being an omnivore is extremely annoying when you go in public with a vegan. You have to hear this bullshit:

"I just don't understand why more place don't have more vegetarian friendly menus, do they expected everyone to eat meat?"

You mean to tell me in a society dominated by omnivores you expect major successful businesses to cater to one of the most pathetic and tiny groups of people in the country? Does the lack of B vitamins in their diet make it impossible for vegetarians to understand supply and demand?

If you don't want to eat meat because you think it's unethical to farm animals then don't eat meat. There's no need to use your diet as a trendy fashion statement. They're no need to try to impose your will onto people and convert them to your way of life unless you enjoy being a fascist.

I eat flesh. Live with it. Next time some vegetarian tries to shove their beliefs down your throat take a shit on a quality sirloin and shove it up their ass.

[illuminatikiller]

Frank, your problem is you're just hanging out with fags. I've been a vegan since 2002 and I don't tell anyone unless they offer me something I don't want to eat or if they ask why I'm not eating some type of food. When I go out to eat, which is very rare, I don't complain about lack of vegan food because why would I expect them to serve vegan shit? Especially in North Dakota? Vegans aren't the problem, fags are.

[Frank]

Frank, your problem is you're just hanging out with fags. I've been a vegan since 2002 and I don't tell anyone unless they offer me something I don't want to eat or if they ask why I'm not eating some type of food. When I go out to eat, which is very rare, I don't complain about lack of vegan food because why would I expect them to serve vegan shit? Especially in North Dakota? Vegans aren't the problem, fags are.

Again, you don't speak for all vegans.

What I said about vegans was a generalization based upon personal experience. I didn't say all vegetarians act like this.

Are you saying you've never heard a vegetarian do the things I listed such as bitch at people and complain about the lack of vegetarian restaurants? That'd be ignorant. It'd also be ignorant to say that this is standard vegan behavior.

[blacklisted8]

eat some meat you skinny fucks

[Bad_Intentions]

Again, you don't speak for all vegans.

What I said about vegans was a generalization based upon personal experience. I didn't say all vegetarians act like this.

Are you saying you've never heard a vegetarian do the things I listed such as bitch at people and complain about the lack of vegetarian restaurants? That'd be ignorant. It'd also be ignorant to say that this is standard vegan behavior.

I'd say he'd speak for most vegans. I'd gladly let him speak for me. I've never met any veg' who bitched about someone eating meat. I know alot of people who eat meat that bitch about people being veg'.

From my personal expirience though.

[Saline Colors]

I'm a vegan and don't have to explain myself.

I'm happy, healthy, and satisfied.

[jackketch]

I'd say he'd speak for most vegans. I'd gladly let him speak for me. I've never met any veg' who bitched about someone eating meat. I know alot of people who eat meat that bitch about people being veg'.

From my personal expirience though.

I have met a lot of veggies and vegans who were 'holier than thou' and 'healthier than thou'.

Thing is, I used to be a vegan, I know just how unnatural and unhealthy it is. Almost killed me, no joke.

God made us/Nature designed us as omnivores, just a glance at your teeth should tell you that. To cut out one part of the diet that nature intended is to act in a way contrary to nature and to health.

Vegans are by definition UNhealthy and UNnatural.

(non vegan non meateaters are just plastics and should stop trying to be fashionable and have a bacon sandwich).

[Gthe]

I dont mind vegetarians, its all about personal choice. I only get pissed when they talk down to me or try to make me a "veggie" just because i eat meat. fuck that

[illuminatikiller]

I'd say he'd speak for most vegans. I'd gladly let him speak for me. I've never met any veg' who bitched about someone eating meat. I know alot of people who eat meat that bitch about people being veg'.

From my personal expirience though.

This.

[skinny love]

I have met a lot of veggies and vegans who were 'holier than thou' and 'healthier than thou'.

Thing is, I used to be a vegan, I know just how unnatural and unhealthy it is. Almost killed me, no joke.

God made us/Nature designed us as omnivores, just a glance at your teeth should tell you that. To cut out one part of the diet that nature intended is to act in a way contrary to nature and to health.

Vegans are by definition UNhealthy and UNnatural.

(non vegan non meateaters are just plastics and should stop trying to be fashionable and have a bacon sandwich).

you're justifying eating the flesh of other animals because of the fact that we are physically capable of doing it? that's a dumb argument. our teeth can chew the flesh of humans, therefore we should eat humans, right?:rolleyes:

and it's completely possible to be a healthy vegan. do you have any idea what walnuts, soy, and b12 supplements are? you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

keep enjoying your cured carcasses, ignorance is bliss (and tasty too i guess:facepalm:)

[Wither]

you're justifying eating the flesh of other animals because of the fact that we are physically capable of doing it? that's a dumb argument. our teeth can chew the flesh of humans, therefore we should eat humans, right?:rolleyes:


Meh, I personally have no qualms about cannibalism, as long as both parties are (were) consenting to it. The biggest problem I could see it that this would provide another medium for disease to be spread, but I have no ethical objections.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

Do any of you remember chichi? He was that annoying guy in s and a who posted like ten threads a day?

So I was talking to him one time and he said that he didnt eat meat because he couldnt seperate it in his mind from human flesh.

I promptly realised that if it was well cooked and presented, I wouldn't have too much of a problem eating human flesh.

[wit]

Do any of you remember chichi? He was that annoying guy in s and a who posted like ten threads a day?

So I was talking to him one time and he said that he didnt eat meat because he couldnt seperate it in his mind from human flesh.

I promptly realised that if it was well cooked and presented, I wouldn't have too much of a problem eating human flesh.

Nor I when you say it like that. As long as I didn't have to have a backstory.

[Frank]

you're justifying eating the flesh of other animals because of the fact that we are physically capable of doing it? that's a dumb argument. our teeth can chew the flesh of humans, therefore we should eat humans, right?:rolleyes:

He doesn't have to justify anything, especially to somebody who thinks taking supplements is as healthy as obtaining b12 through eating meat.

and it's completely possible to be a healthy vegan. do you have any idea what walnuts, soy, and b12 supplements are? you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

keep enjoying your cured carcasses, ignorance is bliss (and tasty too i guess:facepalm:)
Holier than thou vegans don't exist? What the fuck is this? Jack says he's a former vegetarian and he gets patronized and gets called ignorant.

Case in point

[skinny love]

yeah i guess i have no ethical problems eating human flesh if both parties consented, but its fucking GROSS to think about. but in my opinion its gross to eat any body parts, human or not, so i guess you might have no problems being cannibals. :eek:

[skinny love]

He doesn't have to justify anything, especially to somebody who thinks taking supplements is as healthy as obtaining b12 through eating meat.

quit sucking jack's dick for a minute and realize that it is possible to be a healthy vegan. you can drink one or two fucking red bulls a day and meet your b12 requirements. there are so many ways to get b12 without eating meat.

Holier than thou vegans don't exist? What the fuck is this? Jack says he's a former vegetarian and he gets patronized and gets called ignorant.

Case in point

calling out other people's bullshit isn't being 'holier-than-thou'

[Frank]

you can drink one or two fucking red bulls a day and meet your b12 requirements. there are so many ways to get b12 without eating meat.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

[Struwwelpeter]

DIE, FAGGOT

[skinny love]

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm:

great rebuttal.

[Frank]

Perhaps you're suffering from mania of psychosis from lack of B vitamins.

It's hilarious that you pump your body full of man made chemicals to avoid eating meat. Again, I feel I can only respond to you with multiple :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Go drink a redbull, you're obviously one of those vegetarians that wears your diet as a fashion statement.

How often do you bitch at people for eating meat? Be honest. You'll only be lying to yourself.

[skinny love]

Perhaps you're suffering from mania of psychosis from lack of B vitamins.

It's hilarious that you pump your body full of man made chemicals to avoid eating meat. Again, I feel I can only respond to you with multiple :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

i avoid eating meat because i don't like it.

Go drink a redbull, you're obviously one of those vegetarians that wears your diet as a fashion statement.

if you read my posts you'd understand that i'm a vegetarian because i don't enjoy the taste of meat and i believe in the sanctity of life. that's not a fashion statement, you tool.

How often do you bitch at people for eating meat? Be honest. You'll only be lying to yourself.

in real life, never. almost all of my friends eat meat and i never even bring it up unless someone starts a conversation about it.

all i'm trying to say is that it is possible to be a healthy vegan. don't let jack's misfortune convince you otherwise.

[Bad_Intentions]

I have met a lot of veggies and vegans who were 'holier than thou' and 'healthier than thou'.

Thing is, I used to be a vegan, I know just how unnatural and unhealthy it is. Almost killed me, no joke.

God made us/Nature designed us as omnivores, just a glance at your teeth should tell you that. To cut out one part of the diet that nature intended is to act in a way contrary to nature and to health.

Vegans are by definition UNhealthy and UNnatural.

(non vegan non meateaters are just plastics and should stop trying to be fashionable and have a bacon sandwich).

So why did you become vegan in the first place?

Yes we have omnivore teeth but it's not nessecary to eat meat anymore. You may think its unnatural and unhealthy but so is drinking, doing drugs and many other acceptable common things in todays culture, good and bad, you can't just pick one of those things to pick on.

[jackketch]

So why did you become vegan in the first place?

All the hot girls in my milieu were.

Wish I could say that it was for some great moral reason or because I truly believed in the non exploitation of animals but no, truth be told it was to get laid.

And with time it just became second nature. Until one day I collapsed at work.

[Bad_Intentions]

All the hot girls in my milieu were.

Wish I could say that it was for some great moral reason or because I truly believed in the non exploitation of animals but no, truth be told it was to get laid.

And with time it just became second nature. Until one day I collapsed at work.

That's a pretty stupid reason to become vegan. Maybe it was karma punishing you. I will admit though, veganism is not for everyone, you can have a balanced diet if you actually understand what it involves. It'd be nice if people just ate less meat then they do.

[jackketch]

That's a pretty stupid reason to become vegan. Maybe it was karma punishing you. I will admit though, veganism is not for everyone, you can have a balanced diet if you actually understand what it involves. It'd be nice if people just ate less meat then they do.

I agree very much that it wasn't the best of reasons to become a vegan but it's about as dumb as a lot of the other reasons people take it up.

'balanced diet' is I suppose the key point. If you totally cut out one element of the diet nature intended for us then you can't , by definition, have 'balance'.

Oh but you have supplements? Again the clue is in the word 'supplement' (or in the case of vegans 'replacement').

[Bad_Intentions]

I agree very much that it wasn't the best of reasons to become a vegan but it's about as dumb as a lot of the other reasons people take it up.

'balanced diet' is I suppose the key point. If you totally cut out one element of the diet nature intended for us then you can't , by definition, have 'balance'.

Oh but you have supplements? Again the clue is in the word 'supplement' (or in the case of vegans 'replacement').

You can find pretty much all the vitamins in meat in other vegetables and fruits. You can have some balance. Also you'll find alot of meat eaters are pretty unhealthy being vegan alone makes you more aware of what your body needs and what you can do to get it.

[jackketch]

You can find pretty much all the vitamins in meat in other vegetables and fruits. You can have some balance. Also you'll find alot of meat eaters are pretty unhealthy being vegan alone makes you more aware of what your body needs and what you can do to get it.

Well it's not just vitamins is it? But you know that (vegans trend to be rather up on their dietary science although it tends to be a bit pseudo-science at times).

And no argument that most meat eaters eat far too much meat and have just as one sided and unbalanced diet.

[Bad_Intentions]

Well it's not just vitamins is it? But you know that (vegans trend to be rather up on their dietary science although it tends to be a bit pseudo-science at times).

And no argument that most meat eaters eat far too much meat and have just as one sided and unbalanced diet.

It's pretty safe to say vegans aren't that unhealthy unless they choose to be, just like meat eaters.

I find it funny when my brother and other people tell me how unhealthy being a vegan is whilst he is/they are drinking, smoking and eating utter crap that can only do harm to your body.

[jackketch]

Oh btw for the meateaters among us, you have no idea how BAD you smell to a vegan. I joke not. A vegan can smell the putridity of your diet almost through your skin.

Although by the same token, never sleep next to a vegan. Their night farts will take the paper of the walls and also their genitals tend to taste slightly sour (trust me on that).

[jackketch]

I find it funny when my brother and other people tell me how unhealthy being a vegan is whilst he is/they are drinking, smoking and eating utter crap that can only do harm to your body.

Yep, although back in the day when I lived with a lot of fairly 'right on' and radical vegans they (actually we) all drank and smoked. Before you say they weren't real vegans you need to realize that most of them were vegan for animal issues not religous nor health reasons. THey were the sort of people who 'rescued' animals from labs.

[Bad_Intentions]

Yep, although back in the day when I lived with a lot of fairly 'right on' and radical vegans they (actually we) all drank and smoked. Before you say they weren't real vegans you need to realize that most of them were vegan for animal issues not religous nor health reasons. THey were the sort of people who 'rescued' animals from labs.

Im not saying vegans can't drink or smoke but that in hindsight the people who pick on them tend to be very unhealthy themselves.

[jackketch]

Im not saying vegans can't drink or smoke but that in hindsight the people who pick on them tend to be very unhealthy themselves.

Of course, hypocrisy isn't confined to vegans. It's a human thing. But there is a reason why most doctors now don't smoke and why most of them aren't vegans-which btw is how the doctor who treated me expressed it.

If veganism was inherently 'healthy' then you can be sure doctors would do it and push it. What they will however tell anyone is that we all eat too much meat, especially fried meat and none of us should smoke or drink.

But any diet that means you have to either take supplements (which btw don't really work very well) or hunt around trying to find vegetable equivalents for animal products isn't healthy.

It may however be healthier than the average meat eating Big mac diet/

[Ambient]

jacketch: i see you have made the observation that it is natural for human's to be omnivorous.

I wonder if you have heard of the natural scientific theory of evolution.

In essence in relation to this topic, evolution means change over time in relation to environment; this concept can be applied to cognition( in fact evolutionary Psychology is a school of thought in Psychology). Essentially this means in "nature" species can change over time including dietary changes. Psychology has an influence on genetically evolution because genetic evolution is relative to environment and our adaption of it; in other words behavior.

It's strange us human's pride ourselves on our malleable nature and then many of us differ back to our animalistic nature with a selective basis; pick one or the other. Are you human or animal in nature?

Nature is a concept applied to the natural world; by and large a world that only human's are capable living outside of.

Anyone with consciousness differing their ethic's to nature is guilty of the naturalistic fallacy.

Feel free to do so; just bear in mind when you live by nature you are natural; and therefore animal by nature.

If you wish to behave animalistically then go ahead.

Im not saying meat eating is inhumane or animalistic; simply that yours and many justifications are.

Although given the fact you became a vegan to be cool or fit in doesnt make a good impression to begin with.

[jackketch]

Although given the fact you became a vegan to be cool or fit in doesnt make a good impression to begin with.

No I went vegan to get laid, like I said meat eaters smell B A D to a vegan girl (by the same token vegan girls have putrid farts, their cunnies taste slightly sour/fermented and they seem to get more thrush).

[jackketch]

*tries to argue that veganism is an evolutionary advance*.

What was that song? Oh yes, I remember .."you and me baby ain't nothing but mammals"

[Agent 008]

I like animals and dislike factory farming and the meat industry, therefore I don't eat meat or fish. That's why I'm a vegetarian.

Yeah, because murdering vegetables is alright now?

http://www.hounds-r-us.ca/images/toys/giggling-tomato.jpg

:mad:

[Rocko]

I'm a de facto vegetarian because I'm too fucking poor to buy anything that really qualifies as meat.

[Bad_Intentions]

No I went vegan to get laid, like I said meat eaters smell B A D to a vegan girl (by the same token vegan girls have putrid farts, their cunnies taste slightly sour/fermented and they seem to get more thrush).

Hey now, I hardly ever fart at all (becuase I'm a real lady) and when I do more often then not nobody will even notice it (I understand the reason why they are supposed to, methane and all that but for some reason it's not for me), I've never had thrush and my bf claims that I taste quite nice.

[Ambient]

No I went vegan to get laid, like I said meat eaters smell B A D to a vegan girl (by the same token vegan girls have putrid farts, their cunnies taste slightly sour/fermented and they seem to get more thrush).

That is doing it to fit in, quite literally.

I dont know how old you are but, a wise man wouldn't defend such an arbitrary premise. Your reasons back then are one thing; defending them now is another.

[wit]

The real reason I eat meat is to keep this chap away from me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JANxeJI07Zo).

[Ambient]

Yeah, because murdering vegetables is alright now?

http://www.hounds-r-us.ca/images/toys/giggling-tomato.jpg

:mad:

I lold. Good one.

Its a valid question and a logical follow through to call into question the ethics of eating plantae if we are going to do so for anamlea(sp).

Vegetarians pride themselves on being informed and having a valid premise for their choice; but i doubt many of them could give an articulate explanation on why eating vegetables "is okay".

[jackketch]

I lold. Good one.

Its a valid question and a logical follow through to call into question the ethics of eating plantae if we are going to do so for anamlea(sp).

Vegetarians pride themselves on being informed and having a valid premise for their choice; but i doubt many of them could give an articulate explanation on why eating vegetables "is okay".

Some vegan girls refuse to swallow. No joke.

[LuKaZz420]

Not eating meat for personal reasons (although there are NO health benefits from simply removing animal products from your diet) is fine, its when I get told that I shouldnt eat meat either, or fucking fish/sea-kittens by the fluffy mouthbreathers of PETA that I really feel like eating something killed in the least humane way possible.

Haha the sea kittens, I was browsing the Peta website from the office one day when I stumbled upon the save the sea kittens page, I started laughing histerically, my coworkers all thought I had gone completely insane.

Anyway meat is awesome, I had a boar stew today, with meat that was shot(not by me though:() in the woods just half a mile from where I live, it was so delicious.

[LuKaZz420]

The real reason I eat meat is to keep this chap away from me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JANxeJI07Zo).

We should track him down and pull a Soprano on him.

[Hammer Tank]

this is a live topic ? wtf

[Agent 008]

Not eating meat for personal reasons (although there are NO health benefits from simply removing animal products from your diet) is fine, its when I get told that I shouldnt eat meat either, or fucking fish/sea-kittens by the fluffy mouthbreathers of PETA that I really feel like eating something killed in the least humane way possible.

This.

Animals eat each other, it's natural.

And lamb cooked in beer with vegetables.. That's just euphoric.

Life without meat would hardly be worth living.

[jackketch]

Anyway meat is awesome, I had a boar stew today, with meat that was shot(not by me though:() in the woods just half a mile from where I live, it was so delicious.

*is green with envy*

Dear god it's been so long since I had wild boar. If you tell me you had it with a glorious medley of wild 'shrooms then I shall weep with desire.

Hmmm Wildschwein in Jägersoße

I'm salivating at the thought.

And I'm told the boar in Tirol is some of the bestes.

[DECI4]

*is green with envy*

Dear god it's been so long since I had wild boar. If you tell me you had it with a glorious medley of wild 'shrooms then I shall weep with desire.

Hmmm Wildschwein in Jägersoße

I'm salivating at the thought.

And I'm told the boar in Tirol is some of the bestes.

I agree jackketch! How else do you like it prepared?

[Vizier]

Man I miss old ginger loathing jackketch.

[kennyonfire]

I find that when I don't eat meat, I feel far better. I have more energy, less fatigue, etc. I couldn't give a fuck less about animals or suffering, but if it will make me healthier and save animal and human lives, then why not?

I am the opposite of this.