How God created the universe (documentary)

[zooting22]

We watched this in science class last Thursday.

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God is actually the collective consciousness of the physical universe, experiencing all of life and elements to record it and understand how to deal with it. The purpose of life and humanity is for God to understand all faucets of life on planet earth through all human experiences because we are manifests of Gods spirit through the soul which is a derivative of God, the light and the beginning of everything. Life and the cosmos is always becoming more complex through all the possible experiences and options in life, just like psychedelic patterns forever becoming more and more complicated designs , that is just like life. It makes me think that Drugs give you partial access to the God consciousness so one can understand the meaning of life and the cosmos through symbolism of psychedelic hallucinations and personal revelations achieved through altered states of consciousness, but there is too much potential for evil with drugs because humans are still half man, half beast acting on primal urges.
These stories begin with the big bang, which was actually God farting through a lit lighter. Next is the Paleolithic Age. Ur-Peter invented the wheel, and then moved forward to the Bronze Age when Moses Griffin led the Israelites to freedom.

What do you think? :confused:

[Jeff Gatherer]

Teach the controversy, let the kids decide

[Really Awesome Nickname]

When god created the universe, he had to ask Chuck Norris first.

[Rude Louis]

Teach the controversy, let the kids decide
And all the Atheists go "But we're the only one's who are right why teach them anything else!?"

[Reality Apologist]

And all the Atheists go "But we're the only one's who are right why teach them anything else!?"


Atheism isn't the same thing as science, and science certainly isn't all right, but it's certainly more right than anything else we've got.

[Rude Louis]

Atheism isn't the same thing as science, and science certainly isn't all right, but it's certainly more right than anything else we've got.

I did not think someone would actually prove my point.

[nutsack]

I think none of it really matters. I think "god" being the universal consciousness of all the physical universe makes sense, but that makes no difference to my life. Death will come when it comes. I guess I'm kind of nihilist. I prefer to live in the moment.

[LiquidIce]

So, this thread have a topic? The Rudeboy, go and buy a creationist computer instead of using a 'scientific' one. If atheists can't believe in the paranormal then they at least know about the scientific.

[Rude Louis]

So, this thread have a topic? The Rudeboy, go and buy a creationist computer instead of using a 'scientific' one. If atheists can't believe in the paranormal then they at least know about the scientific.

Now don't get upset with me, I'm just trying to have a little fun here. But you bring up a good point, can Atheists believe in the para-normal? I'm serious now, because I've also wondered if Christians and Jews and such are capable of believing in supernatural phenomena that doesn't agree with their specific beliefs. Such as poltergeists, psychic ability, ect.

I suppose if you take the strict definition of an Atheist to be that there is no God, then I would be on your side (I assume) and say that they can believe in the para normal, but that just opens up more questions to me.

[LiquidIce]

Well, most atheists I know are skeptics. But I also know of the trendy atheists or people that label themselves as atheists, instead of being labeled by others (you know, the fucked up stupid). Maybe, but there is a very thin line separating belief in the paranormal and religious belief. Both require faith. Lots of it. Also, atheism applies not only to God, but also all the Gods. Thus, much of the 'occult' lies in this forsaken category. However what about numerology and esoteric knowledge? Hard to tell, but I would still categorize it as belief, thus an atheist should not believe in those things.

Remember, you are not an atheist by choice, there is no "Church of Atheism". If you don't believe in shit, then you're an atheist, it's a label that gets pinned to you, not a label YOU pin onto yourself. Same with catholics for example - they say they're catholics, but they believe in esoteric stuff or are even pantheists and such which means they are not catholics - they just pin the term to them while it should work the other way around.

[nutsack]

Now don't get upset with me, I'm just trying to have a little fun here. But you bring up a good point, can Atheists believe in the para-normal? I'm serious now, because I've also wondered if Christians and Jews and such are capable of believing in supernatural phenomena that doesn't agree with their specific beliefs. Such as poltergeists, psychic ability, ect.

I suppose if you take the strict definition of an Atheist to be that there is no God, then I would be on your side (I assume) and say that they can believe in the para normal, but that just opens up more questions to me.

Athiests value proof rather then faith. They don't believe in things that have no proof backing them up. A lot of them are also open minded (I would say more so then religious people) and change their views when new proof is offered.

[Deadlock]

Athiests value proof rather then faith. They don't believe in things that have no proof backing them up. A lot of them are also open minded (I would say more so then religious people) and change their views when new proof is offered.

I'd say this is more agnosticism than atheism.

Most of the atheists I've met are just as close-minded as the theists. In all reality, they're on the same page, just either party is unwilling to accept it. Saying with certainty that something is or isn't, without fact, IS faith! Faith IS religion, thusly "theory as fact, without proof" is as much a religion as any other.

Theism = faith in
Atheism = no faith in
Agnosticism = unsure as to, due to lack of facts

[/rant]

[nutsack]

I'd say this is more agnosticism than atheism.

Most of the atheists I've met are just as close-minded as the theists. In all reality, they're on the same page, just either party is unwilling to accept it. Saying with certainty that something is or isn't, without fact, IS faith! Faith IS religion, thusly "theory as fact, without proof" is as much a religion as any other.

Theism = faith in
Atheism = no faith in
Agnosticism = unsure as to, due to lack of facts

[/rant]

But the thing is agnostic people are also athiest, if perhaps more open minded then some athiests. They are probably less likely to label themselves as one.

[Mathematics]

Teach the controversy, let the kids decide

Bullshit. As Dawkins and Myers have pointed out, teaching creationism alongside evolution is no different to teaching the stalk theory of reproduction when sexual reproduction is taught in biology.

You would have thought people posting on here would be more familiar with the old atheist vs agnostic argument. Most atheists are agnostic about a personal god in the same way they are agnostic about dragons. You can't prove he doesn't exist, but it seems incredibly unlikely. As for some sort of deistic god, we don't know - but if something is in some sense responsible for the universe why not simply say we don't know what it is, and that it could well be outside of our understanding. It makes little sense to label it god, which gives credence to the idea of a personal god believed by most major religions. When pressed it turns out that most agnostics believe the same thing as so called militant atheists.

[nutsack]

It makes little sense to label it god, which gives credence to the idea of a personal god believed by most major religions

What else are you going to call it without sounding like you are spouting bullshit? Ultimate universe consciousness? LOL. I call the idea "God" with emphasis on the ""

[Rust]

And all the Atheists go "But we're the only one's who are right why teach them anything else!?"

So are you suggesting there is something else that is just as "right"? If so, go ahead and prove it. Until you do however, your point is a miserable failure; like or not education will always take a stance between what should be taught and what shouldn't be taught.

[Rude Louis]

So are you suggesting there is something else that is just as "right"? If so, go ahead and prove it. Until you do however, your point is a miserable failure; like or not education will always take a stance between what should be taught and what shouldn't be taught.

I have so dearly missed these straight to the point clear cut replies. I really should post more often.

I'm not suggesting that there is something as "right" as teaching basic scientific method in schools. I was just trying to use irony and a tad bit of satire to show that there isn't a place where objective teachers tell the kids both sides then let them decide for themselves. Overworked underpaid schoolteachers seem to always have an angle. Or at least, I don't think there is a school that has objectivity like "let the kids decide".

So you could say my attempt at relaying that was a failure, I suppose.

[Rust]

Ah well, then your point missed a very important detail; the creationism angle is winning far more than the "atheist" angle. The supposed "controversy" is being taught, and it's being taught from a creationist perspective.

[Toothlessjoe]

The crux here is that this video, without a doubt, clearly shows that the creationist arguement comes straight out of someones ass.

[Asylum]

Now don't get upset with me, I'm just trying to have a little fun here. But you bring up a good point, can Atheists believe in the para-normal? I'm serious now, because I've also wondered if Christians and Jews and such are capable of believing in supernatural phenomena that doesn't agree with their specific beliefs. Such as poltergeists, psychic ability, ect.

I suppose if you take the strict definition of an Atheist to be that there is no God, then I would be on your side (I assume) and say that they can believe in the para normal, but that just opens up more questions to me.

"believing in supernatural phenomena that doesn't agree with their specific beliefs"

I know what you're getting at here, but the way you've written it makes it seem to me a little self contradictory.

And yes, I've known people of all kinds of faith who happily incorporate "other" influences into their outlook. I never bother to ask too much about it, because if I see the Jesus thing as stupid, I know I'll never get anywhere with poltergeists or whatever.

Trying to logically analyse the cohesiveness of various illogical systems is amusing but futile.

[Rude Louis]

Trying to logically analyse the cohesiveness of various illogical systems is amusing but futile.

That's how I feel when it comes to my Political Science major. . .

[enkrypt0r]

If you want to teach creationism in public schools alongside evolution, then you have to each the Holocaust didn't happen alongside the Holocaust did happen.

[Obbe]

Science and spirituality are not mutually exclusive. And science is not equal to atheism.

[Really Awesome Nickname]

Well, I forgot what I was going to say, so Ill just leave you with these words of wisdom.
Fuck You

[Obbe]

And all the Extremists go "But we're the only one's who are right why teach them anything else!?"

fixed. ;)

[InspiredByMe]

He didn't.

[LiquidIce]

He didn't.

He said, I believe it, that settles it. Right?

[Really Awesome Nickname]

Fuck You. Read my spoilers :mad:

[InspiredByMe]

I guess it does, but I like truth in my threads.


The crux here is that this video, without a doubt, clearly shows that the creationist arguement comes straight out of someones ass.

I lol'd.

[zooting22]

^^It's MY thread bitch, and clearly, I thought mine would be the stupidest post in here, until people started posting.

[Toothlessjoe]

I thought mine would be the stupidest post in here, until people started posting.

Don't post if you're already assuming nobody has anything relevant to say.

[Rude Louis]

fixed. ;)

Is it opposite day?

[Cytosine]

Teach the controversy, let the kids decide

I agree. Let's show the kids the creationist nonsense arguments and then show them the rebuttals by people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about. Those that are intelligent and reasonable will side with the evidence verified by years of scientific study. Those that are indoctrinated morons won't.

Then, when the students leave the class, those who are still creationists are knocked to the ground by security personnel who apply a single shot of the selective pressure directly to their skulls. Thus improving the intelligence of the population over time.

And that's why I'll never get elected.

[Revvy]

o fucking lawd, u ppl r still deb8in lis?

[AdMech]

This thread is like tennis played by retards. Just about every post flies right past someone's head.

[Dream of the iris]

But you forget evil is also a part of God, if you want to call it that.


What then? Is light the only thing?

[Jeff Gatherer]

While we're at it, let's teach the controversy behind:
Norse/Hindu/Egyptian/Iroquois/Sikh/Shinto/Aborigine/Aztec Creation theories vs. Darwinism
the Nazi Holocaust
Heliocentrism (Galileo admitted he was wrong, just like Darwin on his deathbed!!1)
Lightning bolt controversy (atmosphere electric charges from ionic reactions, or Zeus spears? The debate continues!)
Round Earthism vs Disk Earth
American Slavery (did abolition offend God?)
Astrology vs Astronomy
Ted Haggard (meth addict and gay sexual deviant, or a victim of an atheist frame-up!)
Holistic healing vs medical science
9/11 (terrorist attack by al-Qaida, or secret false flag operation by Freemasons and the Illuminati?)
Psychiatry vs Dianetics
Outer Space theory vs Firmament with a bunch of pretty candles God lit for our amusement theory


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