Autism

[Edens Garden]

I have two autistic little sisters and I was wondering if anyone else on here had autistic family/friends. If so, how old are they? Have they gotten therapy? What is it like for you to have autistic family/friends?

[Face Ache]

Someone recently asked me if I was autistic. Someone else asked me if I was bipolar.

I have a friend with Aspergers and he can be 'difficult' at times in the sense that he can sometimes be a bit erratic and excitable, but he copes reasonably well, studies engineering at university and lives independently.

I suppose autism differs from person to person doesn't it?

[Carl Hungus]

My dad has Asperger's. It makes him kind of emotionally unavailable and out of touch. But autism varys greatly from person to person.

[Face Ache]

My dad has Asperger's. It makes him kind of emotionally unavailable and out of touch. But autism varys greatly from person to person.

My friend is OTT emotional and sex driven and he really struggles with it. Guess it tires him out acting like that all the time. Guess he's like two male minds in one... when one goes to sleep the other wakes up and keeps on pushing him.

[azalie]

My cousin has mild autism, I think he's 10. I used to tutor him a while back because he was hyper/ unmotivated in school and that's when I realised there was something wrong with him, turns out his teacher noticed too and got a school psychologist to check it out.

His parents are ignorant workaholics so he doesn't get therapy despite the fact that they've known for 2 years, nor have they bothered telling him, his (new, they moved away soon after finding out) teachers and friends that he's autistic so everyone genuinely thinks he's creepy/weird/ stupid. I know it varies from person to person but he's anything but slow. He can make the quickest, most clever comebacks any 10 year old I know but he doesn't understand people socially so it doesn't register when he offends people. He can't read emotions and responses so he can't participate in class discussions or general conversations well and since no one knows, not even him, everyone's frustrated at school and he gets bullied and hates studying. If it were up to me, I'd cut out all the junkfood in his diet since that's what he's given 90% of the time and make him do 30 minutes of homework a day to set him straight but they've moved 3 hours away and I hate all my relatives.

:)

[hooloovoo]

As others have implied, autism is a spectrum and your sisters' ability to function will vary as to whether they are low-functioning, or high functioning. Although some adults born with low-functioning autism progress to a level of HFA.

Girls with autism have not been studied as much, but newer research seems to show that their symptoms can appear different from boys. As far as therapy goes, a lot of aspie or autistic girls that get involved in performing arts such as dance or theatre ect. end up finding socialization easier later on in life. It sort of forces one to become aware of emotional expression and how they communicate with others.

There are a few good support communities online for autistic individuals and their family members to ask questions: wrongplanet.net is the biggest one I know of.

[decayed]

i work at a camp for children with high functioning autism. my experience with it varies from one extreme to another. some will not speak others will but register emotions poorly. a common theme is a focus. One child will know everything there is to know about trains, another dinosaurs, for a third its scientific names of animals. they can be very intelligent but hard to keep a conversation with as it is a social disorder. they also have a hard time with sarcasm and other unspoken communications.

[Yggdrasil]

I have two autistic cousins, related to me by their mother, who is my mother's sister. I strongly suspect their father, my uncle, has Aspergers as well.

One of them, the oldest, is 9. He is severely autistic. He cannot talk. He cannot communicate. He wears diapers. He cannot stay still. I honestly feel terrible for my aunt, because coping with him is extremely though

And I have a second autistic cousin, the younger sister of the other. She's 7, or 6. She's not as severe as her brother, but certainly not a high functioning autist either. She can't talk(well), or repeat the words of others. In fact, she's very quiet, as opposed to the loud noises her brother makes. She can point up when she wants something off a high countertop, for example, and she might even grunt the word "up" as well.

All in all, I feel terrible for my aunt; her prospects are an utter nightmare.

[Carl Hungus]

they also have a hard time with sarcasm and other unspoken communications.

This is very true of my dad, body language and facial expressions go right over his head, and he shows little to no emotion through his face.

[Actor]

From what i'm reading in the replies thats almost me :eek:

Like one thing is sometimes i'll still be able to laugh at say meatspin.com or whipcrack.org even though i've seen them long time ago. I'll imagine I tricked someone I know into going to it or imaging myself saying it out loud in a conversation. I also would continue to laugh at something in the classroom few minnutes after everybody else had stopped.

[Edens Garden]

My youngest sister Megan is somewhere similar to but above the level of Yggdrasils cousins, near the far end of the spectrum. She can communicate somewhat, using a very limited supply of words and can point out what she wants when she feels like it. I think the most frusterating part with her is that people pity her becuase she is autistic, and you can really tell, but i dont think it is warranted. She may be different but honestly, she is the happiest kid i've ever seen. She is turning four this may, and has been getting occupation and communication therapy for about a year now. She has come a long way, but language skills wise she is probably below the level of your average 2 year old. She is smart, and gets so frusterated because she just doesn't know how to show it.

Her older sister, Cassidy, just turned five and has a milder form of autism. She can get her point across, sometimes very well (last night we were cleaning the living room and she told me to "clean this shit up", it is her favorite new word), but typically has a somewhat limited vocabulary. She is much better at reading emotion than Megan, and probably asks me if I'm "ohay" (she has a bit of a lisp) at least 10 times a day. There is no way to tell at this point, but i think by the time she grows up she will be able to take care of herself. She finally got potty training down about a month ago, and we got her a "big girl bed" for her birthday. She has been getting therapy for a little shorter of a time than Megan, because it took longer to diagnose her, but you can see almost daily how much it is helping her.

I think part of the point of this thread was to see how many people here are affected by autism, for us all to see that it is a very real part of a lot of peoples lives.

[Frank]

My cousin has aspergers. He's sharp and notices and remembers things nobody else in the room does. He's of course had problems in school, acting out and generally not getting along with anybody.

[Yggdrasil]

Personal Story

You know, I find it interesting that when someone has an autistic child, they will usually have another. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Almost as if autism is genetic(perhaps)?

[Edens Garden]

I noticed that too. Cassidy and Megans mom is technically my step mom. I have another sister and her and i are fine, but my little sisters by my step mom both have it. One of the studies may have linked autism to families that have a high percentage of people who are manic, which certainly applies to my (step)moms side of the family...

[Genesis93]

You know, I find it interesting that when someone has an autistic child, they will usually have another. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Almost as if autism is genetic(perhaps)?

i think autism has to do with the way we are brought up (theory) like maybe a lack or excess of something when we are very young so the same parenting techniques are used on a second child and so on but i may be wrong nobody really knows

[Yggdrasil]

I noticed that too. Cassidy and Megans mom is technically my step mom. I have another sister and her and i are fine, but my little sisters by my step mom both have it. One of the studies may have linked autism to families that have a high percentage of people who are manic, which certainly applies to my (step)moms side of the family...

Come to think of it, I think it's both sides of the family that are screwed up. On my side, we've got scads of bipolars, depressives, and such. My great-grandfather actually killed himself after losing most of the family fortune in a game, and then thinking he had made a deal with the devil, and that he was cursed. Sounds like a textbook schizo in my opinion.

Also, my family has a relatively high degree of intellectually or artistically gifted people. My older sister, an aunt, an uncle, and great-grandfather(different one) were/are all very artistically inclined, and many others of my family are mathematicians, bankers, or technophiliacs. People on my mother's side of the family are also very well-known, at least in their highbrow social circles, for their explosive temper. My mother has flipped out more than once over things such as grains of rice on a counter top, though it's not like every time one spills food she flips out. Almost all of her family members have occasional outbursts.

[hooloovoo]

i think autism has to do with the way we are brought up (theory) like maybe a lack or excess of something when we are very young so the same parenting techniques are used on a second child and so on but i may be wrong nobody really knows

There is such a thing as "environmental autism" but it usually only applies to very extreme cases (like the "Genie" girl from the 70s). I don't believe it's the norm.

More and more correlations are being found that point to genetics having a big role- for instance, places in California like Silicon Valley employ many high-tech minds, and also have a huge surge of newly diagnosed autistic children.

There is also a supposed link between high levels of testerone in the womb and autism.

[hooloovoo]

I noticed that too. Cassidy and Megans mom is technically my step mom. I have another sister and her and i are fine, but my little sisters by my step mom both have it. One of the studies may have linked autism to families that have a high percentage of people who are manic, which certainly applies to my (step)moms side of the family...

That's interesting, I hadn't heard of that study. I have diagnosed asperger's and it's likely that one of my siblings has it as well, but I don't know of any other autistic people in our family. However, many relatives on my dad's side have manic depression.

[Lao Tzu]

I have aspergers
http://bbs.zoklet.net/images/smilies/totse/frown.gif

[I HAS A POINTY STICK]

My brother has Autism and its pretty severe, but he seriously is the most awesome kid I know and he is always happy. I reckon we get along better than I would with normal siblings

And we found out in November last year that I have Aspergers as well, and its odd because I'm almost 18 and we hadn't really noticed. We only went to the doctor about it because one of my friends suggested that if my brother has it I might as well. But having Aspergers hasn't really impeded me all that much socially, I still make friends really easily and the girls seem to like me for who I am

And if you are wondering, the obsession that my Aspergers gives me is spelling and gaming

[ILTST9]

My cousin has aspergers. He's sharp and notices and remembers things nobody else in the room does. He's of course had problems in school, acting out and generally not getting along with anybody.

I have Aspergers and I'm like how this post describes.

[Frank]

I have Aspergers and I'm like how this post describes.

I once knew a man with Aspergers who was just like rain man. He could remember the time and date of when things happened. He'd just need to read something once to remember it forever. He had severe social problems and probably still does but I couldn't help but envy his ability to store information.

[Struwwelpeter]

I have two autistic little sisters and I was wondering if anyone else on here had autistic family/friends. If so, how old are they? Have they gotten therapy? What is it like for you to have autistic family/friends?

No, they all got euthanized; but this was in a dreamworld not reality.

[k4aic]

My aunt..one of her kids was/is autistic. They diagnosed her really young..She is now like 11 or something and doing really good. She is in regular public school classes, after some help in pre school and such. She now is able to talk to the point you know what she is saying..also she hit puberty and from her mom always taking her in the bathroom with her..knew how to put pads on when she got her period..she is really smart. When she was younger it was worse, but as she gets older it gets less...whats the word..severe..

[Lao Tzu]

My aunt..one of her kids.

You mean your cousin?:facepalm:

[k4aic]

hah yea that is what I meant:oops:

[Xenon]

My dad has Asperger's. It makes him kind of emotionally unavailable and out of touch. But autism varys greatly from person to person.

I have Asperger's myself.
I find it quite hard to socialize.

[Lord_BTY]

I have aspergers...

Though I don't think it should be lumped in with 'real' autism...

It's just so much less severe...

MWAH XXXX

[Edens Garden]

That is why it is called Autism Spectrum Disorder. It covers everything from hard core autistic to aspergers and everything in between.

[Face Ache]

That is why it is called Autism Spectrum Disorder. It covers everything from hard core autistic to aspergers and everything in between.

'hard core autism' sounds like an addiction.

Out of interest, how do they test for autism?

[kellie-marie]

I have four cousins that are all autistics and one of the girls has ADHD as well as Autism.

It's pretty horrible, they haven't really been raised properly.

[Yggdrasil]

'hard core autism' sounds like an addiction.

Out of interest, how do they test for autism?

In my experience, you can spot an Autistic person right off the bat from a mile away. They have poor, if any social skills, they may or may not be able to talk/make eye contact, and they also display erratic behavior, suck as compulsive stacking of objects.

[Lord_BTY]

That is why it is called Autism Spectrum Disorder. It covers everything from hard core autistic to aspergers and everything in between.

That's a somewhat recent notion...

Aspergers was only put into the DSM-IV in the early 90s...

I'm just cynnical towards the idea that I, along with many other people who aren't quite properly maladjusted, are lumped into the same cateagory as a child who doesn't understand what a person screaming at them with a tensed up face means.

Of course, you may say the common characteristic is flawed communication...

But the thing is, the official status on psychological 'diseases' are decided by a group of people voting... not by genuine medical evidence.

They still don't know what causes autism or Asperger's... who's to say they are even remotely similar in cause?

When speaking to so many people diagnosed with 'Asperger's', they don't even fulfill a significant amount of the symptoms! There's just a wide range of symptoms to choose from... are you any of these? You may have Aspergers!

But ultimately, Asperger's is whatever the DSM says it is: a kid who doesn't really talk much and spends his time playing guitar; another one who talks, but in a really eccentric manner, then goes off to research random pieces of crap or maybe just someone who sees music as colours and also puts their foot in it sometimes...

But Autism... REAL Autism... is clearly SOMETHING...

MWAH XXXX

[Psionicist]

^ That's modern psychology/psychiatry though. there is an overabundance of individual opinions and a distinct lack of standards regarding new developments.

[Lord_BTY]

^ That's modern psychology/psychiatry though. there is an overabundance of individual opinions and a distinct lack of standards regarding new developments.

I say the same goes for modern interpretation of Asperger's diagnosis...

MWAH XXXX

[skyclaw441]

I have Asperger's as well, I was diagnosed when I was about 9 or 10. I'm no rainman, but I can remember a lot of shit. It's due to a displacement of a lobe running through your thinking and reasoning center in some Asperger's diagnoses, I've heard somewhere.

[Star Wars Fan]

I'm autistic too! Have asperger's

fucking awesome to see so many aspies and here in, and surprisingly few douchebag trolls; unlike on TOTSE :D:eek:

i typed my history and the like here; 18 now, was diagnosed at 16
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp1600521.html

[40oz.sauce]

My bassist is autistic and my friends little brother. The bassist is 18, a cool guy and the only thing that shows that he is autistic is his reasoning- which no one ever really understands- and how he talks to girls (people think he's hitting on them but he isn't at all). My friends little brother on the other hand is 12 and seems hopeless. I've known him for 2 years, and he HAS been getting better, but he is a fucked up kid for now.

[7i8_Dago]

i have aspergers also.im pretty intelligent and quick witted also but VERY lazy.

i do have alot of friends and get along with many but its VERY hard to do eye contact to others for me.

[Iehovah]

i have aspergers also.im pretty intelligent and quick witted also but VERY lazy.

i do have alot of friends and get along with many but its VERY hard to do eye contact to others for me.

I really hope you didn't just self-diagnose yourself as having Asperger's based on nothing more than those qualifications. Neither intelligence, laziness nor a quick wit are "symptoms".

[Star Wars Fan]

I really hope you didn't just self-diagnose yourself as having Asperger's based on nothing more than those qualifications. Neither intelligence, laziness nor a quick wit are "symptoms".

people with Aspergers tend to have a higher than normal IQ, and a high intelligence in some areas that they specialize in, etc.......granted; not social intelligence (as there are multiple intelligences)

[7i8_Dago]

I really hope you didn't just self-diagnose yourself as having Asperger's based on nothing more than those qualifications. Neither intelligence, laziness nor a quick wit are "symptoms".

nah, i knew i had SOME sort of mental disorder cause i was usually * that guy * of the class. i was guessing i had adhd but it turns out to be aspergers from what they said from my iep.

im really proud of me having some sort of mental disorder. dad thinks im jus like any other kid.

us, we're different and different is good. conformists just suck these days.we're indivuals.

its both a blessing and a curse.

EDIT= to have these things that is

[7i8_Dago]

i think its safe to say that i wish i was mentally retarded.

when being retarded, YES, you may be hated by almost everyone and your parents regret having you, but when being retarded, you DON'T CARE, do anything you want and you get away with it easy.but you will prolly get institutionalized but, hell, its better then prison.

you get taken care of there.yep, life would be pretty easy......simple, but easy.

[Iehovah]

people with Aspergers tend to have a higher than normal IQ, and a high intelligence in some areas that they specialize in, etc.......granted; not social intelligence (as there are multiple intelligences)

Tend, perhaps, but I think it's also important to recognize that these ... specializations and focuses they have don't equate to great intelligence. More than a few of them, I'm sure. But all of them? No, I can't say as I believe for a second that going to the pains of memorizing every bit of data on trains from the olden days to the exclusion over other things constitutes intelligence.

[Guilty Cubicles]

My brother has aspergers, its gotten very noticeable as he's been aging. You can try and talk to him about something and sometimes he will totally ignore you or change the subject. He flaps his hands when he gets excited and he has some weird ticks. One of them is when he yawns he makes a strange facial expression and moves his whole body. He lacks social skills but he does have friends, I can have conversations with him but its hard to get him talking sometimes. But heres one thing that i wonder, what is the difference between and introverted person and an aspergers/autistic person? Because I've always been a introverted kind of person and when I was young i was diagnosed with ADD but never took medicine for it. Now I wonder if I also suffer from aspergers or maybe I just worry to much.:confused:

[Sopio]

My cousin once was diagnosed with Asperger's. He was euthanized because we knew he never would be able to have a good life.

Now I wonder if I also suffer from aspergers or maybe I just worry to much.:confused:

Asperger's isn't a disease so much as a disorder. You only suffer from it if you choose to suffer from it. (By that I mean you should euthanize yourself, freak.)

[Struwwelpeter]

assburgers

[AtrainV]

Don't be a dick just because your shtick is up. Keep it on topic.

[THIS IS IMPORTANT GODDAMNIT]

I can tell you from experience, that aspergers is hard work.

I say that as a person who experienced it growing up but managed to sort of break out.

Being a more normal person now I'm starting to realise how severe some of the social shit was.

[Druidus]

Neuro-Cognitive Functioning:
The WAIS-III estimates a person’s overall cognitive ability based upon performance on a variety of verbal and nonverbal tests. The WAIS-III generates a number of scores that are indicative of cognitive/intellectual functioning. Scores include the following indices: one Full Scale IQ score (FSIQ), a Verbal Index Score (VIQ), a Performance Score (PIQ), and Verbal Comprehension, Working Memory, Perceptual Organization, and Processing Speed Indexes.

The Full Scale IQ (FSIQ) is a composite score derived from scaled sub-test scores and is generally considered to be indicative of overall intellectual/cognitive ability. The Verbal Scale (VIQ) assessed Peter’s verbal reasoning, comprehension, and verbal expression. The Performance Scale (PIQ) assessed his perceptual and fluid reasoning, spatial processing, and visual-motor integration skills. The Working Memory Index (WMI) assessed Peter’s ability to attend to verbal information, to hold verbal information briefly and manipulate it in memory, and then produce an appropriate verbal response. The Processing Speed Index (PSI) assessed Peter’s ability to quickly and correctly scan, sequence, and/or discriminate simple visual information.

Peter’s FSIQ fell within the Very Superior range (99.5th percentile). Peter’s VIQ fell within the Very Superior range (99.9th percentile) and his PIQ fell within the Superior range (92nd percentile). Peter’s Verbal Comprehension Index (VCI) fell within the Very Superior range (99.9th percentile) and his Perceptual Organization Index (POI) fell within the Superior range (94th percentile). His Working Memory Index (WMI) fell within the High Average range (90th percentile), while his Processing Speed Index (PSI) fell within the Average range (32nd percentile). The results of the WAIS-III indicate that Peter is a highly intelligent individual who inherently learns at a significantly faster pace than his same aged peers. Individual subtest scores are discussed below. All scores were statistically compared to a same aged normative sample.


I'm probably Asperger's/HFA-afflicted, though none of the various doctors I've seen have traversed that road yet. I've been diagnosed with lots of crap that didn't fit right, however, like bipolar disorder. That's from the IQ test I had to get done for uni. I have no highschool degree, quite fortunately. School is a disgusting travesty, IMO.

I may be one of the most well-off autism-affected people out there, and I'm certainly not happy, nor am I even doing well.

If I'm intelligent, I'd trade it any day for the social ease I long for. The test is not indicative of my success. I don't understand how to fit in with others very well, so I am lagging behind horrendously in uni.

I'm in a mess that encompasses all previous failures easily.

[Star Wars Fan]

im really proud of me having some sort of mental disorder. dad thinks im jus like any other kid.

it's a neurological condition, nigga :mad:

Tend, perhaps, but I think it's also important to recognize that these ... specializations and focuses they have don't equate to great intelligence.

Autistic people can have several obsessions/interests. For example, I'm a Star Wars Fan; and apparently a hardcore one (the other username I use is 'Warsie'; a term for a hardcore Star Wars Fan).

More than a few of them, I'm sure. But all of them? No, I can't say as I believe for a second that going to the pains of memorizing every bit of data on trains from the olden days to the exclusion over other things constitutes intelligence.

Intelligence can be information or problem-solving. There is an advantage you have if you have all that fdata you can easily access to use in related sbjects.

But heres one thing that i wonder, what is the difference between and introverted person and an aspergers/autistic person?

'introverted' people don't stim as much, nor do they have patterns of weird ticks, etc like autistic people...at least not to that bad an extent; given they could have those traits too (as others said; autism is a spectrum)

Because I've always been a introverted kind of person and when I was young i was diagnosed with ADD but never took medicine for it. Now I wonder if I also suffer from aspergers or maybe I just worry to much.:confused:

autism has a genetic component; siblings can both have ASD. So get an updated diagnosis and mention yoru brother.

My cousin once was diagnosed with Asperger's. He was euthanized because we knew he never would be able to have a good life.


uh........troll?? :confused::facepalm:


Asperger's isn't a disease so much as a disorder.

it's a neurological condition. A syndrome.

You only suffer from it if you choose to suffer from it. (By that I mean you should euthanize yourself, freak.)

troll..

assburgers

lol.


I can tell you from experience, that aspergers is hard work.


How so? Then again it depends on the person and other factors. Have to lol. 'Foreigner in your own culture' indeed....


Being a more normal person now I'm starting to realise how severe some of the social shit was.

'normal'? RAGEEEEEE :rant::mad:



If I'm intelligent, I'd trade it any day for the social ease I long for. The test is not indicative of my success. I don't understand how to fit in with others very well, so I am lagging behind horrendously in uni.


find a group with similar interests? I managed to not piss too many people off, despite showing a bunch of them lolicon and the pain olympics....

[hooloovoo]

If I'm intelligent, I'd trade it any day for the social ease I long for. The test is not indicative of my success. I don't understand how to fit in with others very well, so I am lagging behind horrendously in uni.



I hear that. Sometimes it feels like the balance between intelligence and social stupidity can just barely allow you to make the accomplishments of your peers, and when you do you can't help but think that your road there was a more miserable one.

For example, I'm smart enough to get a good score on more difficult exams from classes I never went to- but instead of going to classes, I was holed up in my room stimming, terrified of the social atmosphere. Even if the results are the same, I'm not around enough to get the benefits of interacting with my peers.

[Star Wars Fan]

For example, I'm smart enough to get a good score on more difficult exams from classes I never went to- but instead of going to classes, I was holed up in my room stimming, terrified of the social atmosphere. Even if the results are the same, I'm not around enough to get the benefits of interacting with my peers.

Why don't you try to get used to it by simply driving through the city or the like (or take public transport if you can)? I did that this summer. It probably provides info for you/data on how people act. Freshman/Sophmore year (in High school; now i'm in second semester community college) I was fucked regarding social stuff yeah....(this was before I was diagnosed). lol as I fitted in better with the caucasian people when younger...alien in your own culture indeed.

Also lol; I sometimes stim IRL and I haven't had people say anything about it. There's another nigra who's a weeaboo who acts all the stuff out he sees on anime and doujin games too. :D

Had to lol as he thought I called him autistic because I pointed out autistic people do the same thing; stimming. He said he was in special ed in highschool; but now autistic. He lives in actual Chicago too. lol :D
also forgot this; useful resource for all.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_survival_guide_for_people_on_the_autistic_spectr um

EDIT: Get some /b/tard friends :D
It helps if you're a channer too, but they'll overlook the stimming and echolalia if you do that sometimes.

[hooloovoo]

I love driving- but that's because I'm in my own separate little car bubble and completely in control of where I'm going.

I'm not so much afraid of people seeing me stim in public- mine isn't too noticeable. I only mentioned it because it occurs when I'm stressed.

I have an intensive phobia of being around too many people that sometimes gets the better of me. It stems from autism- I can't read the signals of anyone I haven't known for a long time, so entering a crowded room is like being surrounded by a stereo system blasting white noise.

[Star Wars Fan]

I have an intensive phobia of being around too many people that sometimes gets the better of me.

understandable; there were times when I Was afraid of going outside; granted that was after I was in the house for a few days at a time or something like that. After a few minutes of walking around, I felt better. You can wear a covering/coat or something similar depending on your climate (long-sleeved shirts)? That can make it easier for you as it provides a psychological defense; and it masks any fear or the like better/some body language.....at least I think.

It stems from autism- I can't read the signals of anyone I haven't known for a long time, so entering a crowded room is like being surrounded by a stereo system blasting white noise.

ahh...understand you; there's a bunch of people around and everyone's loud so you have a hard time paying attention to one person and that can wear down on you as well (the chatter of many people that is hard to tune out and it becomes a general background sound meshed together)

Why don't you ask the people you talk to every once in a while if you piss them off or annoy them in some way? When I did that that didn't seem to affect me in any negative way.

Also when I was in similar situations (room[s] full of people talking about various shit I was probably not interested in [sometimes] i'd pretend I was a Rebel warship [specifically some some of Calamari Cruiser] or a Rebel starfighter weaving through the battle and avoiding getting shot. Maybe you can change what you think about and that might help.

[Sopio]

it's a neurological condition. A syndrome.

Anything can be a condition. Is not normality a condition? Similarly, Asperger's is a condition but I would hardly call it a disease.

[Young Meth]

I have aspergers! It's all so clear now! I knew there was a reason I was obsessed with whips!

[AtrainV]

I have aspergers! It's all so clear now! I knew there was a reason I was obsessed with whips!

Thank you for this valuable addition to the conversation.

[Star Wars Fan]

Thank you for this valuable addition to the conversation.

assuming you're being 'sarcastic'...well he did; it explains those obsessions; granted I didn't need to know WHY im a hardcore Star Wars Fan. :D

Anything can be a condition. Is not normality a condition? Similarly, Asperger's is a condition but I would hardly call it a disease.

some could say 'there is no normal and everyone is weird in their own way' or 'everyone has their issues'.....with which some would say 'some more than others' :p

[AtrainV]

assuming you're being 'sarcastic'...well he did; it explains those obsessions; granted I didn't need to know WHY im a hardcore Star Wars Fan. :D


Take a look at the rest of his posts and you'll realize that he was trying to be funny.

[Star Wars Fan]

Take a look at the rest of his posts and you'll realize that he was trying to be funny.

*looks*

oh, thanks dude :)

[illuminatikiller]

One of my friends has Asperger's. He didn't find out until he was sent to rehab when he was 15 or 16.

[ZeroMalarki]

My cousin once was diagnosed with Asperger's. He was euthanized because we knew he never would be able to have a good life.



Asperger's isn't a disease so much as a disorder. You only suffer from it if you choose to suffer from it. (By that I mean you should euthanize yourself, freak.)

You should euthanize yourself for fucking talking. You just got of the boat bastard, you've added nothing here but the words of hate. Cast yourself out of the kingdom you faggot.

[AtrainV]

Don't feed the trolls.

[Sopio]

You should euthanize yourself for fucking talking. You just got of the boat bastard, you've added nothing here but the words of hate. Cast yourself out of the kingdom you faggot.

You clearly are also afflicted with this debilitating disease. Have your parents put you down now. All you have left to look forward to is a life of suffering.

[Young Meth]

One of my friends has Asperger's. He didn't find out until he was sent to rehab when he was 15 or 16.

Lmfao that bullshit.

When I was sent to rehab they didn't know what the fuck to diagnose me with. I ended up with clinical depression/anxiety/ADD.

Point is, that fucker doesn't really have aspergers, they give you really manipulative questionnaires with pretty much no right answer then lump you into one of the loose categories to get you out of there.

[hooloovoo]

People with autism can also talk to animals.


Well of course we can. They just don't tend to talk back.

[illuminatikiller]

Lmfao that bullshit.

When I was sent to rehab they didn't know what the fuck to diagnose me with. I ended up with clinical depression/anxiety/ADD.

Point is, that fucker doesn't really have aspergers, they give you really manipulative questionnaires with pretty much no right answer then lump you into one of the loose categories to get you out of there.

He went to see a psychologist or psychiatrist afterwards and apparently he does. It would explain how he acts.

[Star Wars Fan]

People with autism can also talk to animals.

re. Temple Grandin, she doesn't directly talk to them. She can think like them and understand their psychology because; unlike the bullshit 'higher-order thinking beings' like humans pull out, most animals don't get complicated and all that shit. She also had an engineering degree and that helped too; but the autism helped her get that too. Some of the things she did was really simple, she simply pretended to be an animal and walked in the slaughterhouses as a cow would; she took pics that a cow would see (apparently cows can see in black-and-white so she did a camera pic and simply developed it; saw parts were really dark and she simply placed light there). Says something about the other engineers she got into nigga moments with doesn't it :p

You clearly are also afflicted with this debilitating disease. Have your parents put you down now. All you have left to look forward to is a life of suffering.

Get back under your bridge, troll

[Iehovah]

Are you saying autistic people are mentally similar to cows? :confused:

Amusing, but I believe he's referring to a very focussed form of thinking. I'm not sure if there's a name for it, but you could refer to it as "not seeing the forest for the trees". Similar to savantism, where you have a guy who is an insane math genius but can't handle anything outside of it. Basically, people who are so intensely focussed on a single subject that they know every thing about it and understand it implicitly.

An interesting piece of trivia I came across was the suggestion that Einstein may have been an Asperger's case. That's an unnerving thought; that genius could arise from brain damage.

[Sopio]

Get back under your bridge, troll

Case in point. No wonder autistics have a hard time relating to other people when they call everyone else trolls.

[Iehovah]

Case in point. No wonder autistics have a hard time relating to other people when they call everyone else trolls.

When your reply is nothing more than the usual "kill yourself" garbage, is it any wonder you get called a troll? Dressing it up with "you have nothing to look forward to but a life of suffering" doesn't make it any less trollsy.

[Xenon]

An interesting piece of trivia I came across was the suggestion that Einstein may have been an Asperger's case. That's an unnerving thought; that genius could arise from brain damage.

Aspergers is not brain damage :facepalm:

[Iehovah]

Aspergers is not brain damage :facepalm:

"Autism is a brain development disorder characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior."

I consider any kind of natural impairment/disorder that keeps your brain from functioning to its fullest a form of brain damage. Autism, and its high functioning sub-category of Aspergers fit the bill, IMO. While it may not fit the definition of "brain damage" precisely, I don't care; I'm not an expert and don't pretend to be.

[Star Wars Fan]

Are you saying autistic people are mentally similar to cows? :confused:

No, I'm relaying something Temple Grandin said when asked why she could relate to 'lower thinking' animal psychology. this link has some stuff on that.
https://knol.google.com/k/pollyanna-mattos/do-animals-think-like-autistic-people/5ts5wtot67t4/1#

That's part of what Iehovah said also.

EDIT: Based off what I've seen on discussions on wrongplanet, as well as what Grandin wrote; yes there is a decent similar, especially when; again you see all the complicated social signaling [neurotypical/normal] humans do.

Case in point. No wonder autistics have a hard time relating to other people when they call everyone else trolls.

again, as Iehovah said as well; you pulled out a 'hur hur kill yoruself you dieased faggot' argument. what do you expect?

I consider any kind of natural impairment/disorder that keeps your brain from functioning to its fullest a form of brain damage. Autism, and its high functioning sub-category of Aspergers fit the bill, IMO. While it may not fit the definition of "brain damage" precisely, I don't care; I'm not an expert and don't pretend to be.

Autism doesn't 'impair' your brain; it simply routes it into a different format that is still useful; but has issues with the pre-existing society's values (e.g. a person obsessed on one thing doesn't really get a chance to carry it out officially until they get into college classes).

I'm not sure if there's a name for it, but you could refer to it as "not seeing the forest for the trees".

[detail-oriented; hyper-focused, obsessive] thinking

[Iehovah]

To expand on the idea of aspergers as a kind of savantism (both on the autism spectrum with different levels of functioning), here's the relevant half of the definition:

"Asperger syndrome (also called Asperger's syndrome, Asperger's disorder, Asperger's or AS) is an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), and people with AS therefore show significant difficulties in social interaction and restricted, stereotyped patterns of behavior and interests." ~ Wiki

It presents as a kind of specialization. Not all of these "specializations" are useful, or even worthwhile, but each Asp has their own focus. For some it might materialize as a kind of genius (Einstein for example, if he really is an Asp), something marginally useful like keen insight into dogs (See: Dog Whisperer, though I've no idea if he is one) or completely useless like insight into cows. Or just a complete fascination with how trains work and everything about them.

You could think of it in terms of mutant superpowers.... having a keen power like super-strength or weather control, or something completely useless like the ability to ferment milk or talk to streets.

But that's not exactly a great comparison, because having that comes with a cost, a social failings and such a limited focus. It corners them into one very small part of the world, and that's a big price to pay.

[Mantikore]

my cousin as autism or aspergers or something. anyway hes 10, and doesnt really get private treatment, hes just in the special class.

anyway, he would often recite music reviews :confused: