World War 3 and the islamic invasion

[Captain Politik]

"It will be a muslim state by the year 2050"

Germany's government when speaking of there homeland

Now I really do wonder if everything ive heard about the muslim invasion is bullshit or not.

I belive if things get as bad as this video says it will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zoklet.net%2Fbbs%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Fp%3D607067&feature=player_embedded

I think we will have world war 3 on our hands soon!

Europe has always been the front lines for idealogy warfare. They fought the ottomans for hundreds of years to keep those dirty muslims out. Fought and defeated Socialism and even communism was nearly fought on there lands.
They wont stand around and allow a bunch of muslims to take over europe.

Now what will be the snapping point? I think France will fall to the muslims first and than huge anti islam campaign will start ALL over the world.

OR this article could be right

http://tinyfrog.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/muslim-demographics/

Even so that article still mentions huge influxes of islam in europe and america.

I think world war 3 wont be a country war but a anti islamic war

[Mantikore]

theres already a thread about this somewhere

im skeptical of that video, personally. it would only be the case if you assume those rates stay the same. we cant be sure whether children born to islamic parents will produce children at the same rate their parents did. they may absorb some of the trends of European nations, and also decide to have few children.

Then if the governments and people of these nations decide to do stuff about it, they may eventually change various immigration and welfare policies, which may further dampen the influx.

in any case, i wouldnt go far as to say there would be major conflicts between the two. conflicts exist, sure, but not on a huge scale as before.

lol i dunno

[Captain Politik]

theres already a thread about this somewhere

im skeptical of that video, personally. it would only be the case if you assume those rates stay the same. we cant be sure whether children born to islamic parents will produce children at the same rate their parents did. they may absorb some of the trends of European nations, and also decide to have few children.

Then if the governments and people of these nations decide to do stuff about it, they may eventually change various immigration and welfare policies, which may further dampen the influx.

in any case, i wouldnt go far as to say there would be major conflicts between the two. conflicts exist, sure, but not on a huge scale as before.

lol i dunno

you have to realize what happens to every single islamic country

How long until Sharia law is forced into some countries with 50% islamic population? Why not split some of those countries in half?

Plus if you anything about Islam you should know that sooner once they become more educated they will relize how fucked up the Quaran is and there will be a split in that.

On huge scale conflicts I would have to point out what happend to Pakistan and India.
Basicaly for hundreds of years they lived in peace and than all of a sudden teh WHOLE country hated each other. Hopefully that wont be the case and we will just kill all the muslims but still that would also be acceptable

[The Better Version]

I would have to disagree under the basis that these statements are too presumptuous. Your predictions are based off of the collective consciousness of Islamic leaders and not of the individual identity of the Islamic people. This massive immigration isn't what you would call an intentional invasion. It's a massive migration committed by a bunch of people who don't want to deal with the bullshit in the Middle East. Don't get me wrong, there will and is conflict and I would expect that to escalate but come on now.....let's not be quick to assume Muslims will destroy a nation....it's bad government, economics, unfortunate events, and geographic location that messed their country up...not the Muslim religion. I mean Pakistan only decided to revert back to Sharia law, simply because they were being bullied into it by Al Qeada and India...well I don't know what you're talking about because as far as I'm concerned they have a separation of church and state...in fact most Indians are Hindu or Christian.

The true essence of the Muslim faith has nothing to do with what's going on in the Middle East. It's not a holy conflict but rather an imperialistic conflict. These leaders use the religion to justify their own actions and their followers actions. Most Muslims just want to live in peace like everyone else. Open up a little mom and pop shop or I don't know....grow stuff. Anyway, I have a feeling this debate will become moot very very fast, because I as well as you will hear the same thing we've been hearing over and over again. You categorize people into a collective identity and base their actions off of some unknown gene one would call race whereas I look at the variables surrounding these countries to understand why they are responding the way they are. We are all humans and although we may vary genetically, we still have the same goals and aspirations. We just want to own something and live a peaceful life surrounded by the same people as us.....governments have the same agenda but on a macro scale.

[Drusus]

Quite frankly I don't even wanna hear any arguments which speak in favor of muslims coming to Europe, even if they're well-founded. Thing is, when you start mixing us with them, you're gonna get trouble. You don't want trouble, do you?:mad:

[superspeedz]

"It will be a muslim state by the year 2050"

Germany's government when speaking of there homeland

Now I really do wonder if everything ive heard about the muslim invasion is bullshit or not.

I belive if things get as bad as this video says it will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zoklet.net%2Fbbs%2Fshowthrea d.php%3Fp%3D607067&feature=player_embedded

I think we will have world war 3 on our hands soon!

Europe has always been the front lines for idealogy warfare. They fought the ottomans for hundreds of years to keep those dirty muslims out. Fought and defeated Socialism and even communism was nearly fought on there lands.
They wont stand around and allow a bunch of muslims to take over europe.

Now what will be the snapping point? I think France will fall to the muslims first and than huge anti islam campaign will start ALL over the world.

OR this article could be right

http://tinyfrog.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/muslim-demographics/

Even so that article still mentions huge influxes of islam in europe and america.

I think world war 3 wont be a country war but a anti islamic war

And just how do you think christianity spread?

[Captain Politik]

And just how do you think christianity spread?

lol yea 1,000 years ago

but its funny that Islam is now where Christianity was so long ago

[superspeedz]

lol yea 1,000 years ago

but its funny that Islam is now where Christianity was so long ago

It's simple yet natural, if you want your group to be the most powerful you need more numbers, islam is a religion built for expansion, the whole four wives thing, allows them to seriously pump out the babies.
Those ideas originally came from a time when infant mortality was higher and males tended to die a lot more (wars, violence, accidents, etc), in modern society infant mortality is relatively low, male mortality is nowhere near it was.

However the video makes a few incorrect assumptions, that all the children of the current muslims will retain their religion, birth rates will remain constant, and the non muslim population will continue to grow at its current rate or not grow at all. Also most of the data on fertility rates shows that second generation immigrants have much lower fertility rates than first generation ones.

[Vizier]

Religion is bullshit, and will always be.

[Azure]

I lol'd at the stupidity.

[DJ Meaty Cheeks]

The US will collapse at some point in the future due to internal decay & corruption, I for one hope Canada takes over.

[mpulanski]

The US will collapse at some point in the future due to internal decay & corruption, I for one hope Canada takes over.

I see this as quite likely.

Just to give an anecdote, my friend works as a short order cook at a restaurant here in Fond Du Lac, WI. They serve a lot of truckers heading up to Green Bay and down to Milwaukee. There are a lot of drunks that come in after hitting up the bars, lots of late night workers and night owls as well.

She listens in to the conversations between people at the stop, and since last summer, the talk considering politics has gotten progressively nastier and nastier. People who never had an inkling of political thought before, are angry, getting motivated, they're pissed off. With every bailout, she tells me, the people coming in are getting more angry.

And its not just being angry at the Feds, everyone is angry at the Feds, its anger towards other parts of the country. We're far past the point where people are very different from region to region, now its getting to the point where no one wants to sit at the same goddamn table anymore. People in the Midwest don't understand how the South or the West or the East Coast run their shots anymore, and it works the other way around as well.

The foundation of the USA a broad "we're in this together" kind of feeling, is being torn apart. I think the Russian scientist who predicted six new countries where the USA were, is right on the money.