Swedish vs German

[Nostalgia]

As a language, which is better to learn. I know German is much more useful to know in general; but it is also MUCH more difficult to learn than Swedish. Which one do you recommend?

This would be learnt over a year in said country.

[water bottle]

Ha, your thread in Globetrotters and this one go together well...

Knowing German will be infinitely more lucrative for you in the future, as you know. Very nearly everyone in Sweden speaks English. However, you shouldn't make language learning decisions like this unless you plan to be using a language for commerce or in your profession, whatever that may be. Go with the language you want to learn,whether it's an immensely useful language like Mandarin or Spanish, or a backwater language spoken by less than a million people in an obscure region, like Frisian, or even with a dead language. To learn a language, you have to identify with the culture and genuinely be interested in it.

[Fza]

Useful in general; German. Germany is the 3rd economy in the world and most of eastern europe is German oriented. So they often speak German too.

static makes a point though, I knew a guy who learned chinese just to find out when he was done that he doesn't like chinese culture and people in general. He doesn't do anything with it now, basically a waste of time.

[ibetyouvotenexttimehippy]

Pretty much all that can be said about this already has been. Swedish people will appreciate you speaking their language should you ever choose to go there but nearly all of them can at least carry an English conversation.

Aside from Germany the language is used in Austria, Belgium, Switzerland, North Eastern Italy and a decent amount speak it in Eastern Europe and some African countries. Also reasonably popular in Denmark and Sweden.

But as has been said, choose which ever you are more interested in. There is nothing worse than getting half way through learning a language, realise you hate it and will never use it but still keep going because you've already wasted too much time on it to quit.

[Yggdrasil]

I'm not going to give a long and drawn out response, since most of what I intend to say's been said, and I'm no parrot (though I am a bit partial to sesame crackers). German is quite the useful language, not just for travel but for business and commerce as well. It's also much more widespread in use than Swedish.

That being said, German is a language many times more complicated than Swedish. It's got grammatical conventions here, there and up the bum, too which prove for quite the inquisitive study. Swedish, on the other hand, has gone through changes similar to those in English, dropping a gender (from the conventional 3), abandoning case, simple conjugations, and a bit more. All in all, learning Swedish is no biggie, though Swedish isn't nearly as useful as German in several respects.

That's not to say it isn't good to know Swedish. Swedish has those lovely r's, pronounced not unlike those in some Romance tongues, and, for example, being able to yak it up in German with a Swedish Adonis won't get you into his pants :p

[HippieTrippie]

German, like said, is at least 10 times more useful, It is the official language of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, and well understood in any country bordering Germany.

[AnotherAnimal]

Deutsch ist die Scheisse. Ich spreche Deutsch und es macht viel spass. Lernt es, bitte!

[Unwanted Prostate Exam]

In Scandinavia nearly everyone speaks English (except for those fucking muslims), So if you do take a trip there you don't have to learn the language, but its a bit disrespectful. In Germany, people speak German.....
So you're better off learning German as Swedish is kind of a bullshit language.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

I would learn German, it's a beautiful language and more people speak it.

If I were to learn another language it would be Norwegian but what sucks is that no one speak it :thumbsdown:

[Unwanted Prostate Exam]

I would learn German, it's a beautiful language and more people speak it.

If I were to learn another language it would be Norwegian but what sucks is that no one speak it :thumbsdown:

ay! Jeg kan snakke norsk, og jeg vett SHARP og Tommylund er fra skandinavaia .

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

ay! Jeg kan snakke norsk, og jeg vett SHARP og Tommylund er fra skandinavaia .

:confused:

[Syphilis]

German. Isn't Swedish pretty much the same as Finnish?

[Major General Franklin Kirby]

Swedish Finnish and Norwegian are notoriously hard languages to learn. I'd go for German myself.

[Mantikore]

i think german would be a more useful language. when was the last time you saw an instruction manual printed in swedish?

[The Jitterskull]

Finnish =/= Swedish/Norsk
Finnish is batshit insane to learn.

I'd go w/ German.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

Swedish Finnish and Norwegian are notoriously hard languages to learn. I'd go for German myself.

From what I have heard and noticed myself from language videos on YouTube is that Norwegian isn't that hard, and that Finnish is very difficult.

[skyclaw441]

Learn what you want to learn. I'd listen to the languages a bit first, decide which one sounds better (that's a big thing for me, but I'm half-studying Dutch, which sounds awful, so go figure). I also pay attention to the music of the culture. Sweden has some dope hip hop (check out Afasi & Filthy), while Germany has some sweet rock. If I were you, I'd ask yourself also how and where you want to use this. You don't have to learn a language just because it's "useful". I'm learning Japanese, which really isn't the most "useful" language in the world (only 130-132 million speakers and declining, limited geographic area, and most American studiers are just called weeaboos). Also, the writing system. Are you opposed to the "symbols" and accents Swedish has? All in all, I'd take Swedish, just because it'd be so much more unique.

[Fza]

Learn what you want to learn. I'd listen to the languages a bit first, decide which one sounds better (that's a big thing for me, but I'm half-studying Dutch, which sounds awful, so go figure).

*slaps you with a clog*

[skyclaw441]

*slaps you with a clog*

Kanker op flikker!

AIaf3b90HCY

Hell yeah, motherfucker!

[Fza]

Ga het niet bekijken maar neem aan dat die meuk afgrijselijk is.

[Vox Ducis]

ay! Jeg kan snakke norsk, og jeg vett SHARP og Tommylund er fra skandinavaia .

Jeg mener at norsk er ikke vanskelig å lære, hvis du kan allerede snakke engelsk og tysk.

[Vox Ducis]

Ga het niet bekijken maar neem aan dat die meuk afgrijselijk is.

Goeden avond, meneer ! Waar vind ik De Wallen, alsjeblieft ?

[skyclaw441]

あなたが悪いです。　きえろ。

[Fza]

Goeden avond, meneer ! Waar vind ik De Wallen, alsjeblieft ?

Closest whores (http://maps.google.nl/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:nl:official&channel=s&hl=nl&q=deventer+Bokkingshang&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=nl&ei=_h13Sv6ZFsv2-AbI9rXLBw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1) from here.

[The Swede]

ay! Jeg kan snakke norsk, og jeg vett SHARP og Tommylund er fra skandinavaia .
Ja SHARP är väl dansk och TommyLund är norsk. :p


I'd go with German, everyone knows English over here and a fair amount of people even speak German.

On the other hand, Swedish is an awesome language.:thumbsup:

Ga het niet bekijken maar neem aan dat die meuk afgrijselijk is.
My bold, how the FUCK do you pronounce that? :eek:

[water bottle]

afgrijselijk

So... you just bashed your hand on the keyboard, right? That's ghastly and horrible. Please tell me that is not a real word :(.

edit: fuckin' beat to it.

[Fza]

It means horrible, so in a sense, it's extremely fitting. I'm almost tempted to make a sound clip.

[water bottle]

Do it não!!! Also say something about stealing a Van Gogh from Schipol airport.

Fuck, I love Dutch... I don't really know exactly what about it appeals, but I'd like to learn it.

[Yggdrasil]

Ach, so many misconceptions to tackle!

Swedish Finnish and Norwegian are notoriously hard languages to learn. I'd go for German myself.

Nein nein nein, mein freund. Das ist flasch!

Fistly, Finnish isn't even Indo-European. It's lumped together with Estonian and Hungarian in the Uralic family of languages, all notoriously, absurdly difficult to comprehend and learn. Really, both Finnish and Hungarian have 18 cases. That's incredible; 4 in German and 6 in Russian is enough to leave most of us scratching our heads in perplexity for a while. Most North Germanic languages (Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian) are relatively easy to learn, having undergone processes that eliminated or simplified many of the features that 'complicate' language learning, such as case and gender. Icelandic, also a North Germanic tongue, retained many of those 'undesirable' features that were present in Old Norse, the Germanic tongue from which the aforementioned 4 stem, and thus can be said to be more difficult to learn

I loves me my German, though. And as for Dutch... to be honest, the pronunciation seems extremely fucked; worse so than English.

German. Isn't Swedish pretty much the same as Finnish?

Read up, sonny

[Fza]

Do it não!!! Also say something about stealing a Van Gogh from Schipol airport.

Fuck, I love Dutch... I don't really know exactly what about it appeals, but I'd like to learn it.

"Ik ben afgrijselijk, vorig jaar heb ik een Van Gogh op Schiphol gejat". (http://rapidshare.com/files/263750150/MIC-2009-08-04_20h14m06s.wav.html)

"I'm horrible, last year I stole a Van Gogh at Schiphol".

[bigfoot]

no one has mentioned that germans are despised across europe! learn german if you want to make money otherwise DONT!
mark twain said:

In early times some sufferer had to sit up with a toothache, and he put in the time inventing the German language.

german sounds really hard and fierce, listen to them talking often sounds like an argument but its just there language, the southern german accents aren't so bad.

Swedish on the other hand I don't know too much but I think its similar to Norwegian which I think sounds very pleasant, lovely rythyms and almost musical to listen too

Fy fann OG helvete

being their only swear words always cracks me up.

[HippieTrippie]

no one has mentioned that germans are despised across europe! learn german if you want to make money otherwise DONT!
mark twain said:


german sounds really hard and fierce, listen to them talking often sounds like an argument but its just there language, the southern german accents aren't so bad.

Swedish on the other hand I don't know too much but I think its similar to Norwegian which I think sounds very pleasant, lovely rythyms and almost musical to listen too

Fy fann OG helvete

being their only swear words always cracks me up.

No, damnit, just no. German is very easy for native English speakers to learn, incredibly up there with Japanese and Spanish. While German does have gender and case specific rules unlike Swedish or Norse, German is the closest language to English I've seen. But hey I got a suggestion. They are both relatively easy. Learn Both. And where did you get that bullshit about Germans being hated across Europe? They are a lot more popular than some Europeans I can think of.

[water bottle]

All I can say from limited experience is that Czech people tend to dislike Germans. I don't think they're at all "hated", though. It's just that whole Hitler thing, y'know? In a more recent context, they're kind of seen as rich tourists from a prosperous country in a lot of places east of Germany, so I guess in this respect they've taken on an almost American identity.

Anyway, that's no reason to not learn a language.

"Ik ben afgrijselijk, vorig jaar heb ik een Van Gogh op Schiphol gejat". (http://rapidshare.com/files/263750150/MIC-2009-08-04_20h14m06s.wav.html)

"I'm horrible, last year I stole a Van Gogh at Schiphol".

Something stuck in your throat :D?

[bigfoot]

They are a lot more popular than some Europeans I can think of.

really who? Having lived in germany for a couple of years and travelled in europe for 20 years I am astonished to hear that their is a group of people who are liked LESS than the boxheads.
Hell I even no a few germans who cant stand germans, most of the decent germans you will ever meet will be outside of germany.

The Germans have an inhuman way of cutting up their verbs. Now a verb has a hard time enough of it in this world when it's all together. It's downright inhuman to split it up. But that's just what those Germans do. They take part of a verb and put it down here, like a stake, and they take the other part of it and put it away over yonder like another stake, and between these two limits they just shovel in German.
- Mark Twain's Speeches, "Disappearance of Literature"

[Satyr]

Something stuck in your throat :D?

Nah, I guess he's more from the north of Holland. The pronounce the 'r' and 'g' seemingly different/rougher/raspier/fuck-don't-know-the-right-word from some other parts of the Netherlands/Flanders. Hell, that's just the differences between r/g, but Dutch has a LOT of dialects. Dutch is actually a really cool language I think. Unless it's spoken by that little fat kid Bob Offenborg or some other failed singers from Holland (Frans Bauer and the like).

I'd go with German. But that's my personal preference for that language. I like how it sounds, how it works... and that's something you have to make out for yourself. It is indeed more useful than Swedish.

And to the dude that said Finnish is comparable to other Nordic languages: it absofuckinglutely isn't. It's one of the misteries of history how it's possible that Finland has a language that differs COMPLETELY from other languages spoken in Northern, maybe even whole Europe. It's one of the hardest languages to learn if you aren't born there and raised in that language.


En nu, stelletje luie honden, weer allemaal aan jullie godverdommese werk! :mad:

Edit:

really who? Having lived in germany for a couple of years and travelled in europe for 20 years I am astonished to hear that their is a group of people who are liked LESS than the boxheads.

Generally, Englishmen aren't very welcome on the mainland, known for getting shitfaced and smashing up everything they come by. Just, troublemakers in general. Though I met some really cool people from London last time.

[Unwanted Prostate Exam]

Jeg mener at norsk er ikke vanskelig å lære, hvis du kan allerede snakke engelsk og tysk.

I always thought it would be easier the other way around, use norwegian as a stepping stone to german

may work, though i don't know anything about german I was able to understand a couple of dutch people talking about the price of whores in NYC,

so learn both then !

[bigfoot]

Generally, Englishmen aren't very welcome on the mainland, known for getting shitfaced and smashing up everything they come by. Just, troublemakers in general. Though I met some really cool people from London last time.

Yeah I've seen signs up outside clubs saying "NO ENGLISH" that was in germany.

couple of friends were driving a van they had bought in germany back to uk, the dutch police stopped them as soon as they started talking english the police apologized and said they thought they were german.

another thing about germans, no sense of humor

[Fza]

Germans aren't hated anymore, 40 years ago sure there were a lot of people that still had ww2 on their mind but that generation is old now, nobody cares anymore. I always get the impression they're really well behaved, German discipline and all (to throw another stereotype in here).

English in Europe have a deserved bad reputation (mostly thanks to their football hooligans). When you have a drunk group it often leads to fights, and they're often drunk. I was in London a few days back and mostly surrounded by tourists, last night in a pub a big crowd of english football supporters (Arsenal I think) and another crowd from a stag night or something meet and start fighting in a matter of minutes. I have nothing against them but I but I always get the impression that booze and english don't mix well, I just like them better when they're not travelling in packs.

[Satyr]

Yeah I've seen signs up outside clubs saying "NO ENGLISH" that was in germany.

couple of friends were driving a van they had bought in germany back to uk, the dutch police stopped them as soon as they started talking english the police apologized and said they thought they were german.

another thing about germans, no sense of humor

Believe me, you don't see those signs exclusively in Germany. I have seen bars, campings, clubs... that stated that 'Englishmen aren't wished for' in other countries as well (Holland, Belgium and Italy as far as I can remember). But I must admit, I have seen those same signs for Germans as well.

And I have to disagree on the humour part too. They have Otto Waalkes, a quite funny comedian. His humour is a bit childish and naive at times, but still funny. I went to a festival in Germany a few weeks back, and the people there were really relaxed and most of them were in for a laugh or two.

[bigfoot]

Germans aren't hated anymore, 40 years ago sure there were a lot of people that still had ww2 on their mind but that generation is old now, nobody cares anymore. I always get the impression they're really well behaved, German discipline and all (to throw another stereotype in here).

English in Europe have a deserved bad reputation (mostly thanks to their football hooligans). When you have a drunk group it often leads to fights, and they're often drunk. I was in London a few days back and mostly surrounded by tourists, last night in a pub a big crowd of english football supporters (Arsenal I think) and another crowd from a stag night or something meet and start fighting in a matter of minutes. I have nothing against them but I but I always get the impression that booze and english don't mix well, I just like them better when they're not travelling in packs.

sure english men in groups are a fucking nightmare AGREED, but we are writing now in ENGLISH so guess what, english people are always wanted to chat too so that people can improve their english, so now everyone wants to speak english what has that got to do with german or swedish?

nothing, german people are not liked in europe, they are certainly disliked by a LOT of peole whereas the swedish, I cant say I have heard bad things about them.

the german language is hard, sounds nasty

[Yggdrasil]

And I have to disagree on the humour part too. They have Otto Waalkes, a quite funny comedian. His humour is a bit childish and naive at times, but still funny. I went to a festival in Germany a few weeks back, and the people there were really relaxed and most of them were in for a laugh or two.

To tell you the truth, I can't imagine a German stand up comedian. He'd be going upstage telling the audience "I shall commence the jokes now, ja?" :p

[HippieTrippie]

Bigfoot, think about the Russians, Albanians, Serbians, and not in Europe as much, but here we hate Poles.

[Fza]

sure english men in groups are a fucking nightmare AGREED, but we are writing now in ENGLISH so guess what, english people are always wanted to chat too so that people can improve their english, so now everyone wants to speak english what has that got to do with german or swedish?

nothing, german people are not liked in europe, they are certainly disliked by a LOT of peole whereas the swedish, I cant say I have heard bad things about them.

the german language is hard, sounds nasty

Bullshit, I'm dutch, my country was fiercly anti-German after ww2, that shit is dead and buried. I don't know how old you are but you're either living in the past or delusional.

To tell you the truth, I can't imagine German stand up. He'd be going upstage telling the audience "I shall commence the jokes now, ja?" :p

Germans have humour, it's just different. You should see the stand-up comedians they have around carnaval. I don't find Germans funny, but I have that with a lot of other countries (Belgians for example have terrible humour in my opinion). Dutch humour is similar to that of the English.

[Yggdrasil]

^^ I know of a couple Swedish comedians who are pretty funny :D

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[skyclaw441]

I just can't do German. I don't know why, I just can't pronounce anything of it. I can eek out French if I practice enough (although that's a really ugly sounding language imo), German is just beyond me. It's just... odd. And have you ever heard Germans moaning porn? NOT hot. Where as the Japanese have hot moans and grunts, but I've never seen Swedish porn, so I can't judge on that. I love the sound of Dutch and their boy singers (Bob Offenberg, Jordy van Loon), so can't beat them there. Plus liberal as fuck ftw. :thumbsup:

[Satyr]

Bullshit, I'm dutch, my country was fiercly anti-German after ww2, that shit is dead and buried. I don't know how old you are but you're either living in the past or delusional.



Germans have humour, it's just different. You should see the stand-up comedians they have around carnaval. I don't find Germans funny, but I have that with a lot of other countries (Belgians for example have terrible humour in my opinion). Dutch humour is similar to that of the English.

Agreed with bold. It's awful. The standup comedians are trying to much to be like the famous Dutch cabaretiers (this mostly means they try to be rude and harsh) and fail miserably at it. This is even true for the most famous comedian we have here, Alex Agnew. If you look at television shows on the other hand, the humour is unbelievably childish, like something a 10 yo would laugh about.

Big fan of Dutch cabaret though.

[bigfoot]

sure for you guys/gals in your 20's the wars may mean nothing to you, but nearly everyone who is 60+ in the whole of europe was affected by the last war, I'm in my late 30's and I'm sure their is a lot less anti-german feeling than before, however it is still out their and not all of it cos of the war, I've worked in tourist resorts and german people are often not liked cos of their arrogance. And nor are brits but this thread is about germans and swedes

[Unwanted Prostate Exam]

In some parts of the world Scandinavian fun is considered blasphemous
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1305765.ece

[Vox Ducis]

I always thought it would be easier the other way around, use norwegian as a stepping stone to german

may work, though i don't know anything about german I was able to understand a couple of dutch people talking about the price of whores in NYC,

so learn both then !

I learned English and German at school and some Norwegian by myself. I think you can learn any of those 3 languages using the 2 others.

[AdMech]

nothing, german people are not liked in europe, they are certainly disliked by a LOT of peole
Nonsense. I was often mistaken for being a German when traveling, probably due to my name and Deutsch Apparel :cool:, and no one ever had a problem with it; nor have I heard any of my European friends, German or otherwise, mention anything about this. (A Dutch fellow said that they were rude, but he went on to say the Danes and Norwegians were even ruder. A bit shocking to me, since the only Scandinavians I've ever met were quite pleasant; but then, same goes for the Germans.)

Even if they're all just oblivious to the deep anti-German sentiment conspiracy surrounding them, though, it doesn't change the fact that these time-warped German-haters are, apparently, quite willing to conduct business in German. :D

the german language is hard, sounds nasty
It's hard and strong, and sounds beautiful. :)

[water bottle]

All Germanic peoples in Europe are a bit aloof (=rude), including the English. The Dutch and Flemish make a bit of an exception here, though. They generally seem more mellow and... well, North American, frankly. The word aloof comes from Dutch :hypnohai:

German isn't 'hard' and 'nasty' after you get used to it, IMO. It becomes a little bit goofy and somewhat pleasant the more you're exposed to it.

edit: why is there a rolleyes as posticon? :confused: :rolleyes:

[Satyr]

All Germanic peoples in Europe are a bit aloof (=rude), including the English. The Dutch and Flemish make a bit of an exception here, though. They generally seem more mellow and... well, North American, frankly. The word aloof comes from Dutch :hypnohai:

I'd say the Flemmish make a very big exception on this. The Flemmish are generally quite closed and very indirect in their approach. They'll rarely speak their mind. This is completely different from the Dutch, who are often perceived as rude and arrogant by the Flemmish because they are more direct and a lot more open.

[Rolf]

As a language, which is better to learn. I know German is much more useful to know in general; but it is also MUCH more difficult to learn than Swedish. Which one do you recommend?

Depends why one is learning it, notes Rolf. If one is looking to be practical then German, as it is far more widespread across Europe and often used in business, states Rolf. If one is interested in said nations history or culture, then it can go either way, states Rolf. If one is learning a language simply so one can say they speak two languages, then don't do either, proclaims Rolf.

Fistly, Finnish isn't even Indo-European. It's lumped together with Estonian and Hungarian in the Uralic family of languages, all notoriously, absurdly difficult to comprehend and learn. Really, both Finnish and Hungarian have 18 cases.

Finnish has fifteen, Estonian fourteen, Rolf is not positive about Hungarian though, it is around sixteen or eighteen, states Rolf. All Uralic languages have quite a number of cases, Komi (an ethnic language in Komi Republic in North European Russia) can have between seventeen and twenty seven cases, adds Rolf.

And to the dude that said Finnish is comparable to other Nordic languages: it absofuckinglutely isn't. It's one of the misteries of history how it's possible that Finland has a language that differs COMPLETELY from other languages spoken in Northern, maybe even whole Europe.

It is not really that mysterious, states Rolf. Finnic-Ugric tribes have lived in Northern Scandinavia, European Russia and the Baltic for centuries, quite possibly being the indigenous people of these regions, explains Rolf. For example, Greek Historian Herotodus makes mention of the Boudinoi, an aboriginal people who lived north of the Scythians, today these Boudinoi are commonly considered to be one of the European Ugrian peoples, adds Rolf.

All I can say from limited experience is that Czech people tend to dislike Germans. I don't think they're at all "hated", though. It's just that whole Hitler thing, y'know?

It is a very Slavic thing to hate neighbouring people and keep very long grudges, proclaims Rolf. For example, Poles and Russians have hated each other since time immemorial, adds Rolf.

[Anders Hoveland]

As a language, which is better to learn. I know German is much more useful to know in general; but it is also MUCH more difficult to learn than Swedish. Which one do you recommend?


Are you actually asking whether swedish women/men are more beautiful than german men/women?

Do you need to learn the language for school?

[kite--]

I've actually found the Germans and the Dutch to be incredibly polite and friendly people when I've travelled. Their English is always very very good as well and they never have an issue speaking it to someone like myself who can only speak English.

I have found out of all the Europeans I have encountered, the French to be incredibly rude.

[The Pat-Man]

fucking germans, invading shit and all that. swedish is a much more respectable language.

[Satyr]

I've actually found the Germans and the Dutch to be incredibly polite and friendly people when I've travelled. Their English is always very very good as well and they never have an issue speaking it to someone like myself who can only speak English.

I have found out of all the Europeans I have encountered, the French to be incredibly rude.

Yes, the French are incredibly chauvinistic. Anyone who doesn't speak French, is an analphabetic barbaric lowlife.

I was on this exchange project in France and they treated me like I was from some completely backward country, asking me if we had a DVD-player at home. Meanwhile, I come from a town with about 25.000 inhabitants and they live in a village with literally 45 people living there.

Not to mention that they knew jackshit about other countries. Not even Belgium, with whom they share a border in the north.

Atrocious English as well.

[Rolf]

Greece was nice, though maybe not now, for a while at least, ponders Rolf.

Atrocious English as well.

:picard:

[water bottle]

I don't get the French hate. Maybe I'm biased because I have some connections to the French speaking world, but honestly, most French people I've met have been kind, open-minded people. Maybe you guys are thinking more particularly about Parisians? Parisians are real arrogant poofbags, that's for sure.

[The Pat-Man]

french canadians (not from montreal, it's basically a paris without a thousand year history) are pretty cool people.

[Rolf]

Maybe you guys are thinking more particularly about Parisians? Parisians are real arrogant poofbags, that's for sure.

France = Paris, notes Rolf sarcastically.

[water bottle]

a village with literally 45 people living there.

Well I hope you're not basing your perception of French people on a village like that. Any village with 45 people is going to be ass-backwards and generally retarded.

[T.K. Baha]

When I buy electrical meters I definitely go with the German engineered.

[water bottle]

France = Paris, notes Rolf sarcastically.

Well that does seem to be what most people think. Brittany in particular is a good region, perhaps because they're mainly Celtic rather than Frankish/Romance.

[Rolf]

Any village with 45 people is going to be ass-backwards and generally retarded.

Unless said village is located in fucking Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria), proclaims Rolf.

[T.K. Baha]

Unterfucking lol. Or Oberfucking there.

[Satyr]

Greece was nice, though maybe not now, for a while at least, ponders Rolf.



:picard:

Uttering "You shut ze door?" when asking if I wanted to close the curtains is pretty fucking bad. No matter what mighty Rolf might think.

@water bottle: of course not. But I just thought it was pretty retarded in general. In my experience though, most Frenchmen look down on you when you don't speak their language, nor are they themselves capable of speaking anything else but French.

[Jive Talka]

You were in a French village of 45 people.

Why Earth would they all speak good English?

[Satyr]

You were in a French village of 45 people.

Why Earth would they all speak good English?

*sigh*

No, that village was not the only experience that I had. I've talked to quite some Frenchmen, not from that village or any other village. They themselves even said that a lot French people can be very chauvinistic. It's not only my personal experience either, I hear it from people who actually lived there as well. And no, that was not in a small village.

[T.K. Baha]

Im gonna go to france and scrap the Eiffle tower.

[yawanur]

Unless said village is located in fucking Australia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria), proclaims Rolf.

australia eh?

[T.K. Baha]

Ya Australia is a little past Austria. I think I would rather go to Australia though if I had a choice.

[water bottle]

I dunno, Australia has guys like Josef Fritzl :o

[T.K. Baha]

Australia also has the Alps.

[The Pat-Man]

scheisse! ein koala!

[T.K. Baha]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5fiC8OWSexw/Sfp5LcSr8vI/AAAAAAAAAVE/IUcpwZzboBc/s400/Kangaroo+Boxing.bmp

[kite--]

To the comments referring to the English being disliked in Europe (re drunk idiots):

I have notice this. Being a native English speaker in Europe, most people firstly assume that I'm British, or secondly think I'm American. It's quite drastic the change in tone/attitude when I say I'm neither of these.

I was in Barcelona a few months back and saw first hand an English stag party, causing havoc and being totally disrespectful. No fucking wonder these people get a rep.

[water bottle]

Being a native English speaker in Europe, most people firstly assume that I'm British, or secondly think I'm American. It's quite drastic the change in tone/attitude when I say I'm neither of these.

I've had the same experience as a Canadian, except sometimes people don't believe me because my accent sounds just like a Standard American one (with the exception of my natural tendency to add "eh" to the end of about a third of my sentences, lol) and lots of Americans still do the Canadian-flag-on-backpack thing. Stop doing that :mad:. It's not like you're going to get lynched for being an American.

[AdMech]

Ya Australia is a little past Austria. I think I would rather go to Australia though if I had a choice.
Hell nah. Austria is a fucking paradise on earth; some of the most pleasant, happy cities in the world. :thumbsup:

That said, I wouldn't mind visiting Australia either, at all.

[water bottle]

Austrians are very conservative, strange people. Hitler, Freud, Arnold.

[Retard Synrdome]

German would be more practical. But I like both languages, either way.