Best cars for driving like a lunatic...

[driveby]

What type of car, is best for flooring it to 40 in a store parking lot, then burning rubber, doing doughnuts, and hitting corners at 30, without any real dammage to the wheel alignments, or axles? I really, really want to do this. If I am successfull in aquiring large sums of money.

http://www.toyota.com/byt/pub/showSummary.do?sessionName=Avalon%20XLS&seriesCategory=2&zipCode=85239&modelId=44146620&packageId=22470365&exteriorColorId=50376569&interiorId=50376575&packageName=JBL%20Audio%20w%2FCD%20Changer&[object]

I really am asking a serious question. I am thinking either BMW, Toyota, or Mustang. The car can not be over $36,800.

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30 mph? Are you fucking crazy? No car corners at 30 mph without at least snapping a sway bar!

[MediumD]

As far as a new car, probably a Crown Vic. Body on frame, RWD, built to take more abuse than anything else on the road.

If you just want to trash a car though, I suggest a Honda. Because I dislike them.

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As far as a new car, probably a Crown Vic. Body on frame, RWD, built to take more abuse than anything else on the road.

If you just want to trash a car though, I suggest a Honda. Because I dislike them.

I psshshshshspptttt'd out loud. Air cooled bugs have outlasted more than pretty much any car out there.

[smitty]

30 mph? Are you fucking crazy? No car corners at 30 mph without at least snapping a sway bar!

yeah man, not even F1 cars can handle that kind of pressure.

[cronic5]

What type of car, is best for flooring it to 40 in a store parking lot, then burning rubber, doing doughnuts, and hitting corners at 30, without any real dammage to the wheel alignments, or axles? I really, really want to do this. If I am successfull in aquiring large sums of money.

http://www.toyota.com/byt/pub/showSummary.do?sessionName=Avalon%20XLS&seriesCategory=2&zipCode=85239&modelId=44146620&packageId=22470365&exteriorColorId=50376569&interiorId=50376575&packageName=JBL%20Audio%20w%2FCD%20Changer&[object]

I really am asking a serious question. I am thinking either BMW, Toyota, or Mustang. The car can not be over $36,800.

You have unrealistic goals. It sounds like you want to pull a bunch of ricer moves in a parking lot. Sounds like you're some 16 year old who wants to be cool like in Fast and the Furious.

A Mustang can't handle for shit. I love them, but they really suck at handling.

If you want a good handling car, go AWD, and if you want it to take abuse, go Subaru, in your case, a WRX is probably your best bet, but you probably can't even drive a manual transmission.

But don't do this, it is really stupid and you're going to hurt yourself or other people driving like this.

[smitty]

lolol. you think toyota camrys are fast.....


all those toyotas you posted up are shit.

good reliable and economical cars. not performance cars for shit.

lol go learn the fuckin' basics first.

[MediumD]

I psshshshshspptttt'd out loud. Air cooled bugs have outlasted more than pretty much any car out there.

New car does not equal air-cooled bug.

Outlast in what regard?

Regardless, they don't have the power to even do a donut or reach 40mph in a parking lot, so they don't qualify anyway.

[cronic5]

I psshshshshspptttt'd out loud. Air cooled bugs have outlasted more than pretty much any car out there.

You do realize there are good, reliable cars that aren't Volkswagon, right?

[thunderstruck]

Regardless, they don't have the power to even do a donut or reach 40mph in a parking lot, so they don't qualify anyway.

They don't have the power to reach 40 full stop....

[Nereth]

Op:

GTFO please.

You're gonna kill someone, or worse, embarass yourself.

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You do realize there are good, reliable cars that aren't Volkswagon, right?

Yeah, they're called Volkswagens.

[CitizenUzi]

A stupid question but, DON'T get an AWD for this stuff. Being a fool and obviously inexperienced, you will waste the tranny. Just get a small japanese beater if you want to thrash around. Actually, the crown vic suggestion is an OK one. Make sure you flip into a ditch and die though before you hurt anyone else on the road.

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Get something with RWD, an open differential, enough power to chirp the wheels on asphalt, and go find some tight twisty dirt roads. Cheapest satisfaction you will ever have.

[ratfrink]

Hitting corners at 30? Christ, you've got aspirations! Try, er, any car built after say, 1950.

Problem is all the RWD japanese stuff (in this country at least) has been snapped up by driftorz (wannabe driftorz, I mean). That leaves you with old Germans which are more expensive to run, or old American cars which (to make a generalisation) all handle like absolute shit and probably can't take corners at 30.

You could dare to be different and buy an old British sports car. MG Midget, MGB, Triumph GT6 or something - all pretty cheap to buy and run, all very light so they wheelspin easily, and all handle very well. You wouldn't want to use one as an everyday car though.

http://www.britishcarlinks.com/1974%20MG%20Midget.jpg
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/1971_MGB_Roadster_Moss_Motors_Supercharger_Front_1 .jpg
http://www.motorimania.it/manifestazioni/sportive/images_triumph/a_triumph_gt6_11.jpg

But to be honest, posting this is a complete waste of time, because you're not going to buy any of those cars and you're not going to do that ricer bollocks anyway. What you're probably going to do is buy an old Honda Civic (which is a good practical car) and possibly ruin it with 'rims' and an oversized exhaust pipe.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3fsevJ6iO8Q

[driveby]

I'm not 16, and it really bothers me I don't know shit about cars. I feel like only a faggot wouldn't know, and it is one of my sources of insecurity.

I really don't know shit.

[yawanur]

All you have to do is humbly ask for help and you will receive.

[Zonko]

You have unrealistic goals. It sounds like you want to pull a bunch of ricer moves in a parking lot. Sounds like you're some 16 year old who wants to be cool like in Fast and the Furious.

A Mustang can't handle for shit. I love them, but they really suck at handling.

If you want a good handling car, go AWD, and if you want it to take abuse, go Subaru, in your case, a WRX is probably your best bet, but you probably can't even drive a manual transmission.

But don't do this, it is really stupid and you're going to hurt yourself or other people driving like this.

http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:8teJaVH6sy2YaM:http://kromeblog.kromeboy.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/dont-feed-troll.jpg

[muff_daddy]

I beat the shit out of my 1995 FWD Olds Cutlas cierra sl, I don't know why but I think someone played with the gearing because this grandma car has some balls. I live in the woods and there isn't speed limits or cops. (for the most part.) Ive gone toe to toe with 4WD suvs on pavement and dirt and won in both instances. I am really thinking about putting money into it now that they dont make them anymore.

One time I crashed into a 2007 jeep wrangler Switching lanes and tried to wipe it off onto parked cars. Smashed the shit out of his fender and door. He was hammered and let me go without insurance. Then a witness asked me if I knew where to get weed. the only damage was a dent on my right fender and i had to trim my wheel well because it was rubbing on my rubber.

I don't suggest front wheel drive unless you like doing driving tricks in reverse.

[Aenimal]

How have all the cars been cheap RWD imports been snapped up in your country?

Don't get a 4WD car because it's never a good idea to just romp on one, because it'll probably blow up. A well built 4WD car is another story, but that's also not what you want if you're just out to learn to drive a car well.

A FWD car like a civic or something (civ-bang...) is nice if you've got a city where you can't really get the car to stretch it's legs.

If you want cheap power though, just get a tuned RWD car. Almost noone makes money on a tuned car, and people pour that shit into them. A decently built 240sx, MR2, eagle talon, 300zx, celica or a 3000gt will usually have a boatload of suspension work, a built turbo engine, and a whole load of engine management. They're pricey, but not even close to a new cheap ass pontiac sunfire or other crap-mobile. For about $7000-8000, you'd get around 200-300rwhp on a car that's light as fuck and probably sprung on coilovers.

Note: yes, I know that a talon is either FWD/4WD and the celica is FWD/4WD, but they're in the same class as those other cars...

[Kwinnie Bogan]

I don't suggest front wheel drive unless you like doing driving tricks in reverse.

*lifts monocle and wipes a tear from his eye*

[Nereth]

A decently built 240sx, MR2, eagle talon, 300zx, celica or a 3000gt will usually have a boatload of suspension work

Often to the cars detriment.

[tibinstein]

My Nissan NX-R can do 80kms around corners, it's a front wheel driver tho.
The motor is stock it's only a 2lt(spose to be the best 4cyl Nissan has ever made)

Sure seems like it...

[Nereth]

My Nissan NX-R can do 80kms around corners, it's a front wheel driver tho.
The motor is stock it's only a 2lt(spose to be the best 4cyl Nissan has ever made)

Sure seems like it...

My stock VS commodore (http://images.google.com.au/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1B3GGGL_enAU258AU258&q=vs+commodore&btnG=Search+Images) with the rear bumper held on with duct tape (4 weight savings, yo) can take extremely sharp corners like this one (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/983/exsharpbc0.jpg) at 200 kph*


*Requires tailwind.

PS:

I know it's pretty geeky of me, but y'all know things like this (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2636/irrelevantpm3.jpg) get to me, so you'll just have to live with it.

[MunkeyQ]

My Nissan NX-R can do 80kms around corners, it's a front wheel driver tho.
The motor is stock it's only a 2lt(spose to be the best 4cyl Nissan has ever made)

Sure seems like it...
Define corner.

People seem to be throwing the word "corner" around in this thread very loosely.


EDIT: Heh, I see Nereth beat me to it :D

[Aenimal]

Often to the cars detriment.

I wouldn't always say so. There's a load of kidiots who pop in ebay coilover sleeves or slice the springs on stock struts. That will suck massively. But for about $2000-4000 here, you can get a clean running 240sx with full Tein or Cusco coils. That'll handle...epically.

[Bob Cock]

MR2. Possibly Subaru SVX. Both can be easily had for under 7,000.

[Animal Farm Pig]

Get a '91 Mitsubishi Mirage (or similar; stick shift mandatory) for ~$800, cut open the exhaust system with a hacksaw wherever it's convenient, pull off all the intake crap and just put some mosquito netting over the throttle body, and have fun!

The economy car tires should run you about $30 a pop, and they won't grip for shit, so you can do as many burn-outs and donuts and what-nots as you like. Drive it off the road. Jump curbs. Do whatever the hell you want. It's a beater car for you to get all the stupid shit out of your system so that you don't ruin a good one.

[ComradeAsh]

http://www.covercraft-pacific.com/images/2005-07-27b%20127b.jpg

[Kwinnie Bogan]

I hope you meant to post an XR6T, because the XRFail is a joke. It has handling and performance akin to the Knock Nevis. Best car for driving like a lunatic would be a first generation Civic on a dirt road. Dirt roads are the shit for cheap fun.

[ComradeAsh]

I hope you meant to post an XR6T, because the XRFail is a joke. It has handling and performance akin to the Knock Nevis. Best car for driving like a lunatic would be a first generation Civic on a dirt road. Dirt roads are the shit for cheap fun.

I'd buy an XR8 over a turbo any day of the fucking week, solely because they sound like a V8 should...probably due to the fact that the V8 they use is ancient, but really...

Besides, it would be road bound so any performance difference is negligible.

[Azure]

I hope you meant to post an XR6T, because the XRFail is a joke. It has handling and performance akin to the Knock Nevis. Best car for driving like a lunatic would be a first generation Civic on a dirt road. Dirt roads are the shit for cheap fun.

What the fuck do Australians know about cars?

[Rocko]

30 mph? Are you fucking crazy? No car corners at 30 mph without at least snapping a sway bar!

Hahahaha, you deserve an award for that post.

As for the OP...Fox body.

[Osirius]

The Crown Vic suggestion was a good one. I just bought a 97 Police Interceptor model, and have done so much shit to it in the short time since I got it. Old Interceptors are easy to find, and pretty cheap. Get that, you won't die in it if you get into a crash.

[tibinstein]

Define corner.

People seem to be throwing the word "corner" around in this thread very loosely.


EDIT: Heh, I see Nereth beat me to it :D

Give me a corner any fucking corner and i'll take it @ 80+ kms(so long as it's not a hairpin corner)

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/tibinstein/Photo0056.jpg

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/tibinstein/myNXRroofoff.jpg

Trust me my car goes around mofo corners kid.
tibz

[Nereth]

Give me a corner any fucking corner and i'll take it @ 80+ kms(so long as it's not a hairpin corner)

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/tibinstein/Photo0056.jpg

http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww61/tibinstein/myNXRroofoff.jpg

Trust me my car goes around mofo corners kid.
tibz

I will give you a 30 degree corner with a 15 meter radius. And then I will laugh as you crash.

Or I could give you a 30 degree corner with a 30 meter radius but a 15 degree reverse bank. Again you will hilariously crash.

If you truly believe you can take any corner 'so long as it's not a hairpin corner', then I truly believe you know nothing about how (in terms of physics) cars handle.

[tibinstein]

I will give you a 30 degree corner with a 15 meter radius. And then I will laugh as you crash.

Or I could give you a 30 degree corner with a 30 meter radius but a 15 degree reverse bank. Again you will hilariously crash.

If you truly believe you can take any corner 'so long as it's not a hairpin corner', then I truly believe you know nothing about how (in terms of physics) cars handle.

Oh noz u gotz meh...

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my bimma is on its guts, so it can take corners wayy faster then a stock one, due to low centre of gravity.

Nereth, I'll hold and you punch.

[blankooie]

Used Z06

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[vwdiesel]

The car can not be over $36,800.

Hasn't anyone noticed the amount of money he has to spend here? He should just buy a brandie new WRX STI. 300 horses with a 6-speed trans. Plus they use these cars in off road rally races all the time. It'd be perfect.

[smitty]

Nereth, I'll hold and you punch.

fuck u cunt what do you drive?

[blankooie]

Hasn't anyone noticed the amount of money he has to spend here? He should just buy a brandie new WRX STI. 300 horses with a 6-speed trans. Plus they use these cars in off road rally races all the time. It'd be perfect.

Except the EVO X is far better...

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fuck u cunt what do you drive?

Well, you're right. Since youre on airbags, you could beat anything around a corner. My bad.

[Aenimal]

Ya'll have got it so wrong. All you need are L33T drift skills man. And a turbo civic with cut springs. Fuck F1 cars, them hondas drift like mad.

=P

For $36,000 just buy a fully built old car, a used corvette, or anything like that

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/cto/1011845443.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ctd/989764644.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ctd/1011779256.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/cto/989918902.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/cto/989189495.html

:O

[Nereth]

my bimma is on its guts, so it can take corners wayy faster then a stock one, due to low centre of gravity.

Well I'm just *assuming* that he's joking here.

Right?

[Nereth]

hehehe, you think that's all there is to it?

You think flipping over is even a particularly significant part?

[yawanur]

Get something with RWD, an open differential, enough power to chirp the wheels on asphalt, and go find some tight twisty dirt roads. Cheapest satisfaction you will ever have.

What about taco bell?

[Nereth]

whatever cunt if you knew something you would have said it by now.

we'll see who goes harder on the road ay

I'm sorry I'm pretty bad at physics, but why don't you go ahead and do the math and see how many gees you would be need to be pulling to flip your average family sedan.

[ComradeAsh]

whatever cunt if you knew something you would have said it by now.

we'll see who goes harder on the road ay

Can you teach me how to be hardcore, just like you?

[Irukanji]

Hard corner @ 70km/h~ would probably flip your car :)

I can take a reasonably tight corner at 50km/h(~30mph), albeit with a little skidding lol. Good thing i had an extra 3 lanes to go into on the way out.

[Nereth]

Hard corner @ 70km/h~ would probably flip your car :)

I can take a reasonably tight corner at 50km/h(~30mph), albeit with a little skidding lol. Good thing i had an extra 3 lanes to go into on the way out.

I couldn't flip my commodore on flat ground if I tried. Know why?

PS: this excludes transient effects.

[Nereth]

yeah thought so cunt. i dont roll in the average family sedan bro so uh why don't you let the big boys talk in here, allrite?

My point is magnified for cars with lower stock centers of gravity.

Anyone else here think this is another of those annoying arrogant guys that pop in from time to time?

[smitty]

Well, you're right. Since youre on airbags, you could beat anything around a corner. My bad.

lol don't quote me man, i was just being smart and imitating ballin' lol.

[Nereth]

my arrogance is fuckin well deserved cunt, im a baller n i roll as such.

*rocks in the foetal position in the corner of the room*

He's trolling...
He's trolling...
He's trolling...
He must be trolling...

*sobs*

Protip:

Do the fucking maths yourself because you won't believe me if I do it. Also I'm lazy.

[Nereth]

1.8 litre n being a performance vehicle

Troll.

Nereth out.

[Kwinnie Bogan]

Speaking of low, I think the Project Cruiser is going to be a little too much of it..
..same suspension set up on the higher trim level (makes no diference) of same car:

http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn329/Darkphoenix08/SV500636.jpg

Does that look legal to you?

[MediumD]

ballsack, take off the 50lb nigger wheels and you might be able to take a corner, son.


Does that look legal to you?

You have laws about that kind of thing?

[MunkeyQ]

This thread is awesome.

Ballin - Nereth is quite possibly one of the smartest people on here when it comes to maths, cars and physics. He'll rape you with equations, hard...he really knows his stuff.

And an intercooler is not used to keep the engine cool. I advise you do some serious reading before taking on a forum full of car nuts.

1.8l? That's a bloody small engine for such a big car.

[ComradeAsh]

Speaking of low, I think the Project Cruiser is going to be a little too much of it..
..same suspension set up on the higher trim level (makes no diference) of same car:

http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn329/Darkphoenix08/SV500636.jpg

Does that look legal to you?

I dunno, does it look like 100mm to you?

[Nereth]

Ballin - Nereth is quite possibly one of the smartest people on here when it comes to maths, cars and physics. He'll rape you with equations, hard...he really knows his stuff.

I act dumb and bait people into saying dumb stuff simply because its hilarious to see how far their arrogance/ignorance will go.

Of course, I'm an arrogant cunt myself... but I'm ok with it :D

[Nereth]

since i have installed the intercooler i have noticed a significant drop in running temperatures at high rpms.

Sir, I have found your problem!

Do you think that perhaps installing the intercooler could have more than one effect? Something other than reduced engine temperature?

Do you think lowering your car could have more than one effect? Something other than lowering the CG?

You'll find these other effects are a bit more major than the ones you are thinking of.

This is called the 'hidden third variable'. In this case the third variable was under the effects coloumn. Normally when I deal with people who fail to see it, it's under the 'causes' coloumn. for example, people assume the increased handling of say, an F1 car is the hard suspension. But that's not true at all. The hard suspension is a necessary evil for other reasons.

[blacklisted8]

My stock VS commodore (http://images.google.com.au/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1B3GGGL_enAU258AU258&q=vs+commodore&btnG=Search+Images) with the rear bumper held on with duct tape (4 weight savings, yo) can take extremely sharp corners like this one (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/983/exsharpbc0.jpg) at 200 kph*


*Requires tailwind.

PS:

I know it's pretty geeky of me, but y'all know things like this (http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2636/irrelevantpm3.jpg) get to me, so you'll just have to live with it.


ill second that my mate has a vs commodore 355 stroker + v7 supercharger manule = syco car best skids and drives like a dream beats the ricers and has the lumpy v8 sound:rolleyes:

[Nereth]

ill second that my mate has a vs commodore 355 stroker + v7 supercharger manule = syco car best skids and drives like a dream beats the ricers and has the lumpy v8 sound:rolleyes:

Yo dawg mines V6 and bone stock.

what other purpose would it serve. fuck cunt you ever worked on an intercooled vehicle before? its not standard mechanics its very complex.

keep reading tho bud

I keep trying to reach out to you, and you keep making these comments that re-convince me you are trolling.

Heres food for thought: Have you ever noticed your radiator fan switches off or slows down when the engine temperature is too cold? Or that it doesn't start until after the engine has heated up? Does this not mean the manufacturers are purposefully keeping engine temperatures high? If low engine temperatures in general were such a great idea, why would they do this?

Think about it, cap'n, what specifically are they really cooling? And why do they want it to be cold?

[MunkeyQ]

what other purpose would it serve. fuck cunt you ever worked on an intercooled vehicle before? its not standard mechanics its very complex.

keep reading tho bud
Um, intercoolers are relatively simple things. And yes, I have worked on an intercooled vehicle before - a fucking massive tractor engine where each cylinder is half the size of your engine. The gearbox was the very definition of complex.

There is no way this guy is serious...he must be trolling. Our new Howard Radford perhaps?

[Nereth]

Um, intercoolers are relatively simple things. And yes, I have worked on an intercooled vehicle before - a fucking massive tractor engine where each cylinder is half the size of your engine. The gearbox was the very definition of complex.

There is no way this guy is serious...he must be trolling. Our new Howard Radford perhaps?

I just looked in that what do you drive thread and judging by his car (take that as you will), he's dead serious.

A few days ago I said "Ask not what Nereth can post for you, but what you can post to prompt Nereth into replying.", and I gotta say man, this is it. This guy is going to be the holy grail of prompting me into posting.

I am so happy to be a part of zoklet, and I hope this guy never leaves.

[ComradeAsh]

Yo dawg mines V6 and bone stock.




I6 > V6

[Kwinnie Bogan]

You have laws about that kind of thing?

..Have you ever driven on Australian roads? I'm half thinking I need to see a psych, dropping the car on its guts when I live in the outback.

[Nereth]

I6 > V6

If packaging isn't an issue, agreed.

[Rocko]

Except the EVO X is far better...

The only import I have ever :fap: over.