makes sense to me, what about you?
Dream of the iris
01-28-2009, 01:14 PM
Yeah, I believe it. Here's a quote from someone who remembers his life there.
The Fall of Tiamat
Hidden from their depths on Tiamat the watchers watched as the inevitable begin to manifest. More planets began to fall from them and the solar system was invaded. The necessary false institutions appeared to for unfluence. The spirit influences the growth at very crucial points of interactions. That is how spiritual influence is spread. It is the rubbing of one pattern to another. Much like how a pet will adopt characteristics or behaviors of its master or parent. While it is a strong truth in the physical, it is a truth of the spiritual nature as well. Interaction occurs on many levels as do the various means of influence or pattern impression.
The Pleiades was astir when the news of takeover came. The most dimplomatic and fearless stepped up to acheive dialogues realizing all that was at stake for all. Peace was sought to end the madness that was destined to destroy them all. Of course those words of peace were seen as threats, and in some instances fell on deaf or ignorant ears.
When the Draco appeared they left armies to deal with the newly forming and spreading grey/insectoid alliance that had developed in the area of Saturn. The Orion/Saturnian Alliance was beginning to reveal its intentions for the twin planets and its inhabitants. Mars and Earth were in danger, and this danger was felt as far as the Pleiades. Draco began measures to keep them under a manageable level of control, and Orion was always in stages of upheaval. The humanoid beings in that area always subjected to harsh measures of slavery and suffering since their sentient birth.
When Mars fell to the Orion greys it created a launch point to control earth. The Mars beings unknown to most at that immidiate time were also special. They were actually what the Draco were ultimately seeking. The Mars humanoid was the respective natural counterpart to the earth humanoid. It was a human being that naturally experienced the fullest reverse end of the spectrum. It was able to attach with the darker souls and the experience was physically more akin to a reptoid exprience with humanoid qualities and feeling. This being provided the same opportunity to evolve towards the light by other spirits that were of the same.
It was these martian children that the Elohim chose to hide from the Draco. The earth human had naturally grown in the ways of the light, and they had faith their children would still stand in light of a Draco threat and manipulation. If the Draco intended to do what they had grown to fear and believe, then the Mars humanoids would have to be hidden because they would be exactly what the dark mystic forces and the Draco were all seeking.
A spiritual being that allowed for them to hitch hike into total new worlds, with a rich experience of physicality. And so after Tiamat was surrounded and all worlds around her subverted or no longer opposition, Niburu came into the inner circle. The Moons of earth were already in place as they provided the first watching posts, which led to platforming from those moons to bases far beneath Tiamat's surface.
The fall of Mars signalled the beginning of the end for the system. The Draco found the absence of any humanoid seeds on Mars to be suspect. While Royals of the Humanoid variety were held captive and forced for information, searches began. The present moon was the only to remain. Times on earth at this dark point were nightmarish at best. Much action in the skies or heavens, and the planet itself was embroiled in a war unlike anything known to a paradise world.
This first invasion attempt of earth by Draco marked the first "extinction" of those earlier invaders. Watchers fought with ferocity matched by the Draco themselves. This marked a noted change in the humanoids in the eyes of Draco, and of the Draco Greys who did their part. They swarmed Mars enough to allow for a successful invasion and captivity of the rulers there.
And so the focus on the search again intensified. Every planet of the system was subject to intensive search efforts. Because the Humanoids understood and had lots of information on the Earth beings, knowledge of the Mars beings was kind of hidden from Draco, which allowed for the beings to be smuggled away from them and kept hidden. When the realization of why they would hide one and not necessarily the other, a hunch burned in their bellies, and they became insane with the search.
Soon the ruling greys on Mars were fearful that the paranoid Draco would think they were hiding something. That is exactly what happened. Conflict on Orion was seen as an indicator that the greys would pull such a trick, and so Mars was "gently" stripped away from them and another exhaustive search took place. Of course the greys also realized what the Martians meant, but they were not hiding anything though they were punished.
Since they merely lost full control of the planet they thought they were in the clear. Niburu was coming though, and while the news forced them to stay positive they all knew exactly what it really meant. Big trouble. Niburu appeared and as it did it threw planets themselves into chaos. Weather patterns went awry, and great disturbances of the magnetic kind happened.
Scanning revealed that something was happening on Tiamat. While the first thoughts were that bases were on Earth and Mars, it was soon discovered that the true base was under the watery depths of Tiamat. The questioning of leaders intensified but every method was met with defiant silence. The Draco demanded to know the whereabouts of the children of Mars and where they were obviously hidden.
The truth was that the Mars children were taken far away. Because of their nature, they were meant to evolve freely in the dark, not under control of those who thought they were dark, or greater than that evolusive force. They would naturally grow in the conditions that begged for such a being, and so the seed carriers took them all and under the radar went forth into the darkness to spread the new illuminating seed, in its soil of darkness.
While the answers that were received pretty much said the children were gone, the Draco refused to believe it. Because of the time it would take to scour Tiamat, they began to heat up the waters. This created atmospheric chaos and the rising tempatures of the water began to reach a boiling point of sorts. They were murdering the planet to induce the answers they sought and bring to the surface what was hidden.
While fleets fled, they were destroyed and or captured. The Moon of Earth we see today is the only remaining one. The others were flung into space by Niburu in an effort to make beings talk. The last and most functional was subverted for the same efforts only it was now Draco controlled and serving their purpose. While the beings of Earth had never known any reason to fear their moon, they soon would.
When Niburu came to the area of Mars it caused much damage. Nuclear wars in the takeover had already done alot of damage to the surface but the atmosphere began to detoriate after Niburu triggered a destabilization. It started the countdown to suffocation for Mars. While one suffered from breathing disease brought on by Niburu, the twin or Earth, would face drowning.
In one last act of rage Niburu charged over a period and then blasted the core of Tiamat. Using magnetics the water part of the planet shot out in all manner and froze in space in all manner of size from continental glacier to raindrop and all in between. While the net used by Niburu held much of that water and debris in firm place and under their control, much of Tiamat was blown away in the universal wind.
Even with the destruction of the homeworld silent defiance remained, so the debris was directed to earth, where the children were. Refusal released the debris, and as the frozen water of all sizes raced into the atmosphere it melted accordingly. The amount was enough to create a constant rain for over a month, and it caused the glacial comet pounding that wiped out the Dinos for the second time, and reshaped Earth.
Tiamat was no more, and darkness reigned in this solar system. That darkness was at that time always fighting within itself as much as outside of itself. All that adhered to the methods and order all fought eachother viciously for the throne they sought and created. Each having their respective ways.
With the destruction of a significant enemy evil was free to flourish on earth and the interactions intensified in attempts to control the Earth human and further all sorts of agendas. Each had their reason for wanting control and use of the beings and the world. That is why the planet was reshaped and not totally destroyed. But still the Draco never found the Mars humans they sought. They had to use the Earth humans.
Old or Ancient Atlantis
The Elohim watchers of the Earth and the twin Mars, had built respective bases on both worlds. The bases remained hidden from the inhabitants. That watching and the studies revealed all that was unique and special about the two beings. The rather savage world that embraced the paradise was never feared by the Earth human. Instead of fear there was a respect formed.
The beings on Earth evolved without much intervention or even influence. This allowed the watchers the time and effort to relocate from the moons and earth bases, and create what was intended to be a whole new homeworld similar to that of Lyra, way back in the day. Because of the nature of the Mars beings they needed more help or influence. For them it was naturally harder to understand their true nature.
They had much Draco in them that hindered their spiritual development. Thus while the Earth children blossomed, these beings represented a not so spiritually perfect plant that needed much attention for it to successfully grow. It was realized that it would be very long process for the seed to actually bloom, and that sparked the realization that the seed was in the wrong soil.
This information about the Mars people led to the decision to start finding suitable homes for the seeds. Once again they were building a homeworld like that of Lyra, and once again they were back at seeding and creating worlds, just as they had done so long ago.
When the Earth humans were ready they would discover the old bases of Atlantis and their ancestors which would naturally spark them into radical new ways of thinking. Again everything was done with minimal effort and almost naturally. The humans naturally chose and followed those charicteristics that were such a strong part of their seed. Faith being one of them which allowed them to be impressive creators even at the animal level.
They began to surpass the other lines evolving around them. Reptile seed is also not rare on earth. The world was intended as a paradise for both. The reptile seed also flourished on earth, but the environment and the influence of the Earth humans allowed for change in pattern even in original species. Many of the reptiles fed on plants and other things instead of blood and meat.
It allowed for a true harmony between man and reptile in every which way. A true paradise for both. Of course that thought sickened the Draco, and the greys saw it as not making sense. It was illogical to attempt such a thing, yet they felt compelled to follow their own illogical attempts at fixing themselves. Universal love was something they failed to realize because it was in their nature. While the greys had a better understanding of emotions, they still failed to understand the bond in its truth as both felt it irrelevent to their experiences. They just cannot see it and they really cannot be blamed for such ignorance.
So with everything going smoothly that sinking feeling set in. Perhaps it was extra sensory perception of the coming Draco, or perhaps it was a vision of things to come held by some, but while all appeared well, there were those who began fearing. The peace around them began to feel threatened, and soon that fear was realized. Old Atlantis would be discovered, but it would not be by the Earth humans.
The Nephilim and Annunaki
Earth man, still very much an infant, suddenly found itself not so alone anymore. The watchers, having faith in such a seed, felt tehy still could stand back, and the children would be able to stay on path. When the new beings began to first appear, the humans naturally ran from the strangeness. There was something much different about them. They sensed something that told them not to hang around the beings.
The invading beings who lusted after the humans took them. Because of the nature of the beings experiments of all kinds took place. The widlife around was also a genetic tapestry. All sorts of different seeds, all working in glorious harmony and balance. The watchers stood back to see just what would happen. While most bases were destroyed, there were hidden worlds, and even hidden places on Earth that they took refuge and hid from the Draco and greys.
The watchers could not abandon their children so they did their best to stick around. Before the arrival of the Nephilim word of incoming forces induced pace of the seeding efforts and relocation of the Mars seed. Some were brought to Earth to mix in and hide in plain sight but the majority went on to seed worlds.
On Mars there came a time when a great rapture occured. The Mars children were taken from their home and hidden in various ways.
The Annunaki who are the Nazi force in service of Niburu and Draco/Orion settled on Earth and began their usual attempts at control. The humans rejected every measure. There was a wholly uncontrollable element that was strong within them. Even with humanoids using such deceptive measures on other humanoids these Earth humans always saw through the guise and fled any interaction.
To show their "good intentions" the beings began giving gifts to display their affection and well meaning. This started to work. The beings responded to the interaction, and over time the control mechanisms began to work. To the dismay of the controllers, little influence was needed to break the control. A very minute level of divine interaction was all that was needed for the light in the humans to become strong again, and their connections rekindled with relative ease.
You can also think of Mars and Earth as Cain and Abel. The father or sun and the mother Tiamat reflecting this light as another source of warmth and growth stimulus, and their two children or twins. Of course Venus and Mercury being the twin daughters that the "Adam and Eve" had. Cain did fall from grace, but as revealed in truth, it was not an act of murder in such an outright manner as that displayed in the bible.
Because of their lack of understandings and need for maternal care, the Mars humans did not have the greatest harvests, nor the most food to feed their people or the most cattle in their flocks. Still they had that spiritual element that gave them great determination. And so all beings are great in spirit, for all have such a quality whether it is realized or not, and this quality is the most important. Without it, there is no other.
Atlantis was eventually discovered by the Nephilim forces or Annunaki. It was in the ancient home that they set up their base and began to discover the "surprises" that were intended for the children. It had allowed the invaders the golden opportunity to set up in full force and activate many things already there, that they had planned on waiting for and sending there piece by piece in shipments.
From Atlantis and the huge mountain chain that comprised the massive land mass, the Nephilim moved in and called it home. To satisfy disputes and wars in other worlds, allowing them to focus on their tasks at hand without distracting wars elsewhere. A unity was formed in which the original method of control would be the norm, and the face of godship was left to the individual species. Each had one religion, but the face at the top varied as to the actual species origin.
One language was taught, and one order developed. Since the communities were so isolated, it allowed for such ignorance and adherence to one locally known god as the god of all. It wasn't until the Draco and greys broke the rules and began to war with one another for territory that the inhabitants became aware of other people, and their respective gods. These control methods were achieved only after much trial and error.
On the other side of the planet in the Pacific area, which was another huge mountain chain, Lemuria was the official base of humanoid activity. The moons were all there, and we had what appeared as two suns in the sky. Many humanoids were taken underground in Lemuria and shuttled around as with the Mars beings. It was the first rapture on earth that appeared shortly after the Annunaki.
Remember that the humanoids had remained hidden learning much from their enemies. When the Nephilim arrived many things were hidden from them and they were running on hunches and pieces of information forming a picture for them. Lemuria was secretive, as the Draco/Annunaki/Nephilim believed that Atlantis was a recently abandoned post. They figured the humanoids must have had warning and fled the place.
In fact Tiamat would not fight because any such acts of violence would bring more of the same and the destruction of everything. They would rather die, than have everything around them be subject to their fate and die a physical death. Passive resistence was the way of Tiamat, and on Earth that was largely the rule and the reason the parents had faith in their children to keep out of trouble and stave off temptation while they did their best to keep them out of harm's way where possible.
The attempts to control by the Nephilim became ever increasingly harsh and desperate. The natural spirit of the Earth human they subjected to control always rebelled at one point or another. The reward system did not work, they were just extremely un co operative or resistent both violently at times and passively.
The mixing of DNA's and spirit presented their problems, but all realized that only through genetic tweaking and alteration could the beings be fitted for their needs. The possession process offered by the beings was slow and natural. To get what they wanted they would have to wait out evolutions of body after body ever climbing to their goal. Not an option in their eyes.
The tinkering of DNA allowed for the fuller attachment at all levels necessary for an immidiate symbiosis and experience. Of course this was realized to happen only under the right "conditions". And physical death and rejection in other conditions constantly presented themselves as major problems. Still if they put enough parent DNA into them, the body might learn to ignore the traits that develop such a rebellious and powerful spirit.
The first mark was a physical and genetic mark or influence by the Nephilim. The act brought our bodies to a point not reached in natural development. This alteration has been seen as a missing link and mystery for centuries and centuries by those who think evolusive creation and genetic alteration of a species cannot co exist side by side. In fact it is a natural ying and yang signature of our experience.
The first alteration created a less evolved spirit in a body it was not ready to experience or exist in technically. It created a level of trauma as the fear with a surge of emotions and new feelings and senses caused shock to the soul. That reaction is what they hoped would break that spirit. While it worked for a while, as the beings grew accustomed to the bodies, they soon began to revert to their true nature, no matter how disturbed it was at that point.
The watchers were largely in the dark about these experiments. The humans they kept were still rather savage and growing naturally in their new homes hidden from the invaders. While safely underground the untouched humanoids continued their evolution in a way similar to the insectoid. Ever evolving but largely ignorant to the world on the surface. The Watchers continued with their watching and kept an eye on the actions of the Nephilim, but they chose to stay hidden for various reasons.
However like all secrets they cannot be kept forever. Soon the watchers had learned about the alterations. The news shocked them. That level of manipulation was never done to humanoids. Technology was the norm for such controls as chipping to a mainframe had been the norm, and also an ever evolving form of control in itself. To actually go in and alter the seed for such things was bordering on unforgiveable.
This interaction with their most prized children began to rattle sabres and stir hearts deeply. The consequences of doing such a thing to a creature capable of so much was unthinkable. They were tinkering like mad scientist with an explosively spiritual element. That element uncontrollable.
For that had been the way of the evolution. The old federation and ideology eventually birthed the same rebellion when a maturation point was reached. The ways of old brought in the new anarchist, just as the ways of the Draco had brought in the degeneration which spawned AI. All truly stem from one and each is of the other.
The first tampered humans or adams rebelled after a point. The faith that the watchers had was still intact. It proved to them they were right and that the children were indeed much stronger, even in the face of such harsh blasphemy and action against them.
When they rebelled the watchers came to their side revealing their presence. The watchers in an effort to confuse, chose to attack Atlantis which would lend the illusion that they were trying to take it over or recover it after fleeing it. They then gathered the tampered children and disappeared. This infuriated the Annunaki. The guerilla tactic had worked and the rapture was a success.
The Annunaki had felt they defended properly despite losing the defective slaves. That did not deter the work that needed to be done, so the loss was put aside. At the act of rebellion they were considered lost in the ruling eyes. With more watcher sweeps it was revealed that the work did not end with the loss of the slaves. Because of the level of success achieved in the tampering both Draco and greys felt they were on to something. And so there were more than one adam on earth. In fact soon there would be many different kinds.
01-28-2009, 10:11 PM
One possible explanation of Atlantis:
Before man was even thought of, there were billions of angels living in what was then called "The second heaven", which we refer to as our universe. This planet, contained the city of Atlantis. Satan ruled from a planet, I forgot the name, but it is now called "Niburu". When Lucifer's dumb ass tried to rebel against God, the angels were either killed, or placed into hollowed planets, such as Niburu. The killed ones became the demonic entities that fill our spirit realm. The ones who were blasphemous became the human type aliens, the really bad ones, were turned to reptiles. They were given the technology to replicate the majic energy they once possessed. The reptiles genetically engineered greys, to work as slaves. They also genetically engineered insectoids, from insect DNA. Then God created Adam, and Eve.
When they rebelled, God destroyed Atlantis.
01-28-2009, 10:20 PM
I think there's a lot more evidence to support the idea of an ancient civilisation that was destroyed than to refute it. What this guy says just scratches the surface. Remember, humans have been at this stage of evolution for 100,000 years, and our history only goes back 3 or 4,000. I think it's even possible that society has risen and fallen on multiple occasions during that time, and simply forgotten each time.
01-29-2009, 01:08 AM
i have nothing to contribute but a song. atlantis by donovan. i garentee you've heard it. the begining is the only good part tho. then it gets all gay.
01-29-2009, 03:25 PM
I remember reading that Tiamat was destroyed by massive thermo-nuclear war by warring humanoids. All you damn prophets of super secret ancient history can't be right :mad::mad::mad:
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