Someone please explain why 9/11 was an inside job.

[Agent 008]

I don't have convincing answers to the following questions:

1). Motive. One doesn't blow up their own World Trade Centre for no good reason. To be able to push the Patriot Act and gain more control? Neither Bush (who could have ordered it), nor the secret services (who could've carried it out on their own) really needed it.
To give more power to the Government and take freedoms from the people? None of them look like idealists to me, and there was no practical value in it for them.
To justify war in Iraq? Maybe actually linking it to Saddam would've been a good idea then. As far as I know, according to the official version, Iraq had nothing to do with it.
To justify invasion of Afghanistan? Why the fuck would they want to go to Afghanistan?

2). ...Well, that's pretty much it. I'm just interested in the motives.

[0omnidirectional]

The agendas of the intradimensional serpantial demons and wizards are far beyond the comprehension of a mere mortal.

[AngryOnion]

I don't have convincing answers to the following questions:

1). Motive. One doesn't blow up their own World Trade Centre for no good reason. To be able to push the Patriot Act and gain more control? Neither Bush (who could have ordered it), nor the secret services (who could've carried it out on their own) really needed it.
To give more power to the Government and take freedoms from the people? None of them look like idealists to me, and there was no practical value in it for them.
To justify war in Iraq? Maybe actually linking it to Saddam would've been a good idea then. As far as I know, according to the official version, Iraq had nothing to do with it.
To justify invasion of Afghanistan? Why the fuck would they want to go to Afghanistan?

2). ...Well, that's pretty much it. I'm just interested in the motives.
You are trolling to hard.

[czarbomba]

You can't disprove a negative.

[T.K. Baha]

The jooz did it for the joo gold.

[HAS]

An 'inside job'? More like an inside Jew!

[Haiti's Space Agency]

jews/reptilians etc

[Dream of the iris]

I don't have convincing answers to the following questions:

1). Motive. One doesn't blow up their own World Trade Centre for no good reason. To be able to push the Patriot Act and gain more control? Neither Bush (who could have ordered it), nor the secret services (who could've carried it out on their own) really needed it.
To give more power to the Government and take freedoms from the people? None of them look like idealists to me, and there was no practical value in it for them.
To justify war in Iraq? Maybe actually linking it to Saddam would've been a good idea then. As far as I know, according to the official version, Iraq had nothing to do with it.
To justify invasion of Afghanistan? Why the fuck would they want to go to Afghanistan?


Look into Project for a New American Century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

[slowdown]

It was not an inside job. Americans and their blinders and short attention span was clueless to the increasing chatter by Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. There were stories out there about them plotting to use multiple airplanes as bombs, and they attacked the WTC in 1993.

[Agent 008]

Look into Project for a New American Century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

That doesn't explain the motives.

[CrazyJoe]

Why the fuck would they want to go to Afghanistan?

Oil.

[Haiti's Space Agency]

It was not an inside job. Americans and their blinders and short attention span was clueless to the increasing chatter by Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. There were stories out there about them plotting to use multiple airplanes as bombs, and they attacked the WTC in 1993.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/77379

Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.

[Agent 008]

Oil.

What about it?

[Yggdrasil]

Oil.

There's minimal oil in Afghanistan, if any. Kein öl; AFAIC Afghanistan's largest export is opium poppy/heroin

[Trix Are For Kids]

jews/reptilians etc

Fucking reptilians.:hrmph:

[Joe Camel]

To stimulate the economy is one theory I have heard. Go watch Zeitgeist, it talks about it a lot, not necessarily that I believe it was an inside job though.

[TheMagician]

One cannot reason with folks who buy into 9/11 conspiracies. They irritate easily, and they have a huge amount of contempt for people who disagree with them (despite being the genuinely pitiable ones). They are usually people who are on the fringe and believe any damn thing, or are attention whores of some type. The best solution when you come up with questions like "what was the motive?", is to remember that whatever response you get will make no Goddamn sense.

[Agent 008]

To stimulate the economy is one theory I have heard.

So they blew up a World Trade Center to stimulate the economy?

[Jordan]

Video:
SLBWIi3ykxk

He rambles about some other stuff but what he says about 911 is spot on.

I might come back and summarize what he says but right now my stomach and sunburn are killing me. :(

[Joe Camel]

So they blew up a World Trade Center to stimulate the economy?

That's just what I heard. It doesn't really make any sense to me either.

[i<3Shrooms]

That's just what I heard. It doesn't really make any sense to me either.
War = Money

[MAYOR]

there are pipelines in Afghanistan plus it's a good strategic spot for a base

[slickt0mmy]

War = Money

Exactly.
Also, this guy pretty much explains it all. Watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oARBdBtGenM

[Funky Fungus]

You could watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM

I dont really feel like getting into a big argument about what happened, but OP you should watch that vid

[nutsack]

The jooz did it for the joo gold.

I'll just leave this here.
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

[Agent 008]

there are pipelines in Afghanistan plus it's a good strategic spot for a base

So they (who exactly?) blew up the WTC to get into another Vietnam.

[DeadLegend]

it was an inside job, because people love conspiracy theories.

[Agent 008]

Exactly.
Also, this guy pretty much explains it all. Watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oARBdBtGenM

Alright, so the secret services blew up the WTC so that they can go and have the US companies modernise Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with the WTC?

This doesn't make any sense.

Also, when the guy says "empire", I see mutual benefit. Is Japan part of the US Empire, or did the US help modernise Japan and make it a safe, prosperous nation?

[LOL_wut]

Alright, so the secret services blew up the WTC so that they can go and have the US companies modernise Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with the WTC?

This doesn't make any sense.

Also, when the guy says "empire", I see mutual benefit. Is Japan part of the US Empire, or did the US help modernise Japan and make it a safe, prosperous nation?

The WTC needed to be upkept which would cost billions after Larry Silverstein bought the WTC 3 months before 9/11. He made sure on the insurance claim that terrorist attacks will be counted for also. He received billions on this deal, if anything he got his profits out of this.


With a terrorist attack on this magnitude, congress passed the patriotic act and the Iraq/Afghanistan war was alluded from 9/11 for the "war on terror".

You sir need to stop watching mainstream media.

WTC 7, how did that come down within that same day? Ask yourself that OP. Dont believe in what your government tells you.

[:MAD:ijuana]

I think that movie zietgiest touches on that topic. You should try looking into that.:)

[slowdown]

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/77379

I can make an awesome snowball and smack you in the head with it. It's not my fault that during that same snowfall a young man lost control of his car on the snowy road and died. Some may even argue whether or not it was even the same snowfall that fell on the road that day that made my snowball so magnificent. Mine was compact and the one that killed the driver was powdery.

[Agent 008]

The WTC needed to be upkept which would cost billions after Larry Silverstein bought the WTC 3 months before 9/11. He made sure on the insurance claim that terrorist attacks will be counted for also. He received billions on this deal, if anything he got his profits out of this.

So Larry Silverstein did what... order the CIA to arrange a terrorist act, kill thousands of people in the process, shock the entire world so that he could get his money back?


With a terrorist attack on this magnitude, congress passed the patriotic act and the Iraq/Afghanistan war was alluded from 9/11 for the "war on terror".

Oh wait, so it wasn't Larry? Bush? Or did a bunch of people meet together, bitch to each other about their problems, and then some genius said, "Know what? Let's blow up the WTC. But don't tell anyone, or else I'm screwed." And they kept their mouths shut.
Why the hell would Bush be desperate for the patriot act? He was getting out of office in 7 years anyway. And what exactly did he get out of invading Afghanistan that when he thought earlier, "Hey, I should blow up the WTC, it will be difficult to arrange, if someone whistleblows I will be dead, but it's totally worth it!" it made sense?

Sense. It makes none.

[JREwing]

there are pipelines in Afghanistan plus it's a good strategic spot for a base

Precisely. I'd read up on the ideas of Webster Tarpley about a US "Shadow government" being behind 911. The bushites are far too dumb to have done it. Someone high in the military must have been responsible for the drills of the day and the closure of strategic air defence resources before and during the attacks.

Why do it. Because it would frighten Russia, who regard central asia as their sphere of influence. It would generate international pressure for an invasion of Afghanistan. It would make inside investors billions of dollars.

It would give Americans someone to fight against, thus bolstering the economy and military spending. It would remind the Bushites that things were going to have to be done their way (the shadow governments). You have to examine the historical context, America was sliding into a more and more "liberal" peaceful and relaxed mindset. Bush was elected to keep guns legal and lower taxes. I doubt he wanted the war (in Afghanistan, Iraq was much later) anymore than anyone did.

[LOL_wut]

So Larry Silverstein did what... order the CIA to arrange a terrorist act, kill thousands of people in the process, shock the entire world so that he could get his money back?




Oh wait, so it wasn't Larry? Bush? Or did a bunch of people meet together, bitch to each other about their problems, and then some genius said, "Know what? Let's blow up the WTC. But don't tell anyone, or else I'm screwed." And they kept their mouths shut.
Why the hell would Bush be desperate for the patriot act? He was getting out of office in 7 years anyway. And what exactly did he get out of invading Afghanistan that when he thought earlier, "Hey, I should blow up the WTC, it will be difficult to arrange, if someone whistleblows I will be dead, but it's totally worth it!" it made sense?

Sense. It makes none.

American oil company signed the deal in afghanistan, plus the pipeline is going thru afghanistan. The taliban wouldnt allow this to happen, so out they go.

:)

go die in a field you SHEEP

[Agent 008]

Precisely. I'd read up on the ideas of Webster Tarpley about a US "Shadow government" being behind 911. The bushites are far too dumb to have done it. Someone high in the military must have been responsible for the drills of the day and the closure of strategic air defence resources before and during the attacks.

Why do it. Because it would frighten Russia, who regard central asia as their sphere of influence. It would generate international pressure for an invasion of Afghanistan. It would make inside investors billions of dollars.

It would give Americans someone to fight against, thus bolstering the economy and military spending. It would remind the Bushites that things were going to have to be done their way (the shadow governments). You have to examine the historical context, America was sliding into a more and more "liberal" peaceful and relaxed mindset. Bush was elected to keep guns legal and lower taxes. I doubt he wanted the war (in Afghanistan, Iraq was much later) anymore than anyone did.

So it was done by whom... The US Military? Secretly from the Government?
That makes more sense than any of the other versions I have heard... But.
Frightening Russia doesn't make sense as a reason for such an operation. Russia was never going back to Afghanistan.
Invasion of Afghanistan in of itself doesn't make much sense either.
Investors? Unless the military elite suddenly got incredibly rich after the event (or their families / close friends), I don't buy it either.
Unless they were facing dramatic funding cuts/were in a really desperate position, I don't see enough of a reason for the Military elites to do such a thing. Not to mention that they don't seem to be particularly powerful as a result of it, now that the administration has changed.

[LOL_wut]

so it was done by whom... The us military? Secretly from the government?
That makes more sense than any of the other versions i have heard... But.
Frightening russia doesn't make sense as a reason for such an operation. Russia was never going back to afghanistan.
Invasion of afghanistan in of itself doesn't make much sense either.
Investors? Unless the military elite suddenly got incredibly rich after the event (or their families / close friends), i don't buy it either.
Unless they were facing dramatic funding cuts/were in a really desperate position, i don't see enough of a reason for the military elites to do such a thing. Not to mention that they don't seem to be particularly powerful as a result of it, now that the administration has changed.

go die in a field u fagggot

[Agent 008]

go die in a field u fagggot

So a sheep or a cigarette? Make up your mind.

[bigfoot]

trans afghanistan pipeline could not get funding whilst their was no government, the taliban stopped the trade of heroin in 2001 to try and get UN recognition by late 2001 they reallowed the growing of opium knowing that they would be invaded.

I'm not convinced it was an inside job, guess no one will ever know but the US made the most of it and invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for this dwindling resource called "oil"

If it was all done as the Main stream media says then how come US didn't invade Saudi Arabia? it was them that attacked WTC wasn't it?

building 7 is odd, but I'm still hoping it was the muslims cos the palestinians deserve to have some hero's

[LOL_wut]

If it was all done as the Main stream media says then how come US didn't invade Saudi Arabia? it was them that attacked WTC wasn't it?

building 7 is odd, but I'm still hoping it was the muslims cos the palestinians deserve to have some hero's
Another sheep.

Why would USA invade an ally for dumbass FAGGGOT?


AND BUILDING SEVEN WAS "PULLED" U DIPSHIT, GOTDAMN, U FUCKIN SHEEPS.

[bigfoot]

Another sheep.

Why would USA invade an ally for dumbass FAGGGOT?


AND BUILDING SEVEN WAS "PULLED" U DIPSHIT, GOTDAMN, U FUCKIN SHEEPS.

well your a reptile in sheeps clothing

[Jointlock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OIXfkXEj0

This.

[i<3Shrooms]

So it was done by whom... The US Military? Secretly from the Government?
That makes more sense than any of the other versions I have heard... But.
Frightening Russia doesn't make sense as a reason for such an operation. Russia was never going back to Afghanistan.
Invasion of Afghanistan in of itself doesn't make much sense either.
Investors? Unless the military elite suddenly got incredibly rich after the event (or their families / close friends), I don't buy it either.
Unless they were facing dramatic funding cuts/were in a really desperate position, I don't see enough of a reason for the Military elites to do such a thing. Not to mention that they don't seem to be particularly powerful as a result of it, now that the administration has changed.
Are you kidding? We sacrificed so much liberty for the sake of security, which the military offers. We are now very much under the governments finger, having given up so many of our constitutional rights.

MONEY, GREED, AND LOVE OF POWER.

Even if you don't agree with it, if you do a bit of research, its not too hard to understand the many motives that could've played a part; but as someone else said, I guess we will never know for sure.

[-Analysis-]

They wanted to go into Afghanistan so the CIA could regain control of the heroin trade.
I think it was like 60% of the worlds heroin came from afghanistan in 2000.
Then the taleban destroyed all the poppies in 2001 or 2000 cant remember.
So now less then 5% of the worlds heroin comes from Afghanistan.
Then the u s invaded and now 95% of the worlds heroin comes from the afghans.
I am not saying its all the cia but more compartmentalized covert groups with dark agenda's and this is how they raise money for the black budget.
Well this is the theory what do i know ay ???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2814861.stm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO404A.html

[bigfoot]

spring 2001 the taliban had all but stopped the growing of opium, but still held onto massive stockpiles, they did this they said because it was not islamic.

they desperatly wanted to be recognised as the leaders of afghanistan by the UN so that they could get the 8% fee's from the transafghan pipeline and the taliban thought that the opium ban would help.

In october 2001 before they were invaded they stopped the opium ban realising that they were about to be invaded.

so who gets the 8% for the pipeline now? doesn't matter to much as long as the natural gas from turkmenistan makes it to market. this gas making it to market eases the overall pressure on the energy markets.

meaning we all live happily ever after

for a while and the military industrial complex makes a few quid too :)

[Agent 008]

They wanted to go into Afghanistan so the CIA could regain control of the heroin trade.
I think it was like 60% of the worlds heroin came from afghanistan in 2000.
Then the taleban destroyed all the poppies in 2001 or 2000 cant remember.
So now less then 5% of the worlds heroin comes from Afghanistan.
Then the u s invaded and now 95% of the worlds heroin comes from the afghans.
I am not saying its all the cia but more compartmentalized covert groups with dark agenda's and this is how they raise money for the black budget.
Well this is the theory what do i know ay ???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2814861.stm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO404A.html

This makes more sense.

so who gets the 8% for the pipeline now? doesn't matter to much as long as the natural gas from turkmenistan makes it to market. this gas making it to market eases the overall pressure on the energy markets.

Well, who does? This is important.

I highly doubt a false-flag operation of this scale would be performed "to ease the overall pressure on the energy markets". This could be one of the "positive" points when invasion of Afghanistan was being discussed, but I highly doubt it could have played a part when 9/11 was getting planned.

[bigfoot]

I highly doubt a false-flag operation of this scale would be performed "to ease the overall pressure on the energy markets". This could be one of the "positive" points when invasion of Afghanistan was being discussed, but I highly doubt it could have played a part when 9/11 was getting planned.

I don't know if 9/11 was a false flag!
whoever did do it(9/11), the international military industrial complex made the most of it, would be disappointing if they didn't!

I would imagine that the puppet afghan government will get the 8% from the gas pipeline AND the international trade in opium will continue because it can't be stopped!!! (even tho the taliban have proven otherwise)

[JREwing]

... whoever did do it, the international military industrial complex made the most of it, would be disappointing if they didn't!

This is so true. At this stage we may never know what really happened on 911, but I believe that the official story is largely or partially false on account that nothing seems to fit together on that day. The disgusting way 911 was exploited by everyone with a logo and a motto shows just what the real priorities of the international military industrial complex are.

[bigfoot]

This is so true. At this stage we may never know what really happened on 911, but I believe that the official story is largely or partially false on account that nothing seems to fit together on that day. The disgusting way 911 was exploited by everyone with a logo and a motto shows just what the real priorities of the international military industrial complex are.

yes it seems true of many conspiracies, that someone profits from a disaster in some way so we look to see if mabye they had something to do with it.

I started a thread on h1n1 and so I look about for any swine flu conspiracy's, big pharma may or may not have started it. but the definite truth is they are making big money out of it.

I think the fact that many people think its worthwhile arguing over who did what and when and the logistics of it all is manna from heaven for those who are profiting.

what I mean to say is, a weapons manufacturer that is making bombs that effectively are killing innocent civilians are probably well pleased that the group of "so called" thinking classes are discussing building 7 or cranes or lizards or any of the other 9/11 stuff rather than saying:

"look these people are making bombs and killing people, these people who are being killed may have relatives who are not happy"

so I dont really care who did it, but I do care who is suffering and I am not happy that someone is profitting from death

[The Savage]

How many buildings fall into their own foot prints at almost freefall speeds from fire? Before WTC and WTC7, none to my knowledge. For it to happen, ALL the supports must be taken out at exactly the same time, that wouldn't happen even if the fire DID melt the steel.

How many planes have crashed into the ground and left wreckage no bigger than a phone book?

Why did WTC7 fall? It was never directly hit, and the fires weren't meant to be that bad. However once again ALL of it supports gave out at Exactly the same moment, leaving what looked very much like the remains of a controlled demo.

It's a setup to some point for sure. Just a thought - pissed off terrorists WERE behind it, just that the us government was trying to run damage control and ignored certain things that weren't right in the public eye to save face. I mean they'd look really stupid and incompetent if these guys didn't just fly planes into buildings but Infiltrated the same buildings weeks before and set charges on main support beams, same deal with the planes, maybe there was fuck all wreckage because explosives were smuggled on board. You may ask "Then WTF was the point of flying planes into the buildings?" and the answer is simple: Shock value. $10 says you can still remember where you were when the planes hit and maybe even seeing that second one go in Live on TV.

edit: Actually they would of had to infiltrate the buildings several times each to get in enough explosives, and then have access to maintenance areas. I'm guessing we're talking at least 150 - 200lbs of HE each building, and someone with a really good knowledge of explosives and detonators.

[NTP]

There's minimal oil in Afghanistan, if any. Kein öl; AFAIC Afghanistan's largest export is opium poppy/heroin


Dats it!!:eek::eek: I never saw heroin till a year ago after we invaded dem kuntries. Itz government heroin.:hrmph:

[L33tz]

So it was done by whom... The US Military? Secretly from the Government?
That makes more sense than any of the other versions I have heard... But.
Frightening Russia doesn't make sense as a reason for such an operation. Russia was never going back to Afghanistan.
Invasion of Afghanistan in of itself doesn't make much sense either.
Investors? Unless the military elite suddenly got incredibly rich after the event (or their families / close friends), I don't buy it either.
Unless they were facing dramatic funding cuts/were in a really desperate position, I don't see enough of a reason for the Military elites to do such a thing. Not to mention that they don't seem to be particularly powerful as a result of it, now that the administration has changed.

You really don't understand much. High level of ignorance...

[Agent 008]

You really don't understand much. High level of ignorance...

Explain where I am wrong or shut up.

[slickt0mmy]

You really don't understand much. High level of ignorance...

What's your problem, dude? He's just asking questions. Nothing wrong with that. Stop acting all high and mighty, dick. :rolleyes:

[Cult Leader]

Theres alot of sketchy shit in relation to 911. I'd say im on the fence about the issue but things like building seven, and the speed of collapse etc have no concrete explanations and leave me suspicious.

[bigfoot]

one group plans it, the other finds out about plan and makes the most of it.

alles klar

[TheCityBeef]

I didn't really know if i believed it until i seen Building 7. Why do people mislook this building? it just fell down people.

[Jordan]

I you really have any doubt to whether 9/11 was an inside job watch "The Truth and Lies of 9-11."

[NTP]

I've heard that some of the metal melted and that jet fuel doesn't even burn hot enough to melt the metal. I've also heard that there was a "building 3" that mysteriously collapsed like almost an hour after the buildings fell. I've also heard tale that there would have had to of been explosives on the lower part of the tower to make it just freefall like it did.

Also I've heard that george bush requested that the metal and debri's be send to some site on an island and there were never any test for explosive residue.

[Retard Synrdome]

If 9/11 was an inside job, then Ahmad Shah Massoud would still be alive.

http://www.davidgaines.org/storage/image-files/deepthought.jpg

[0omnidirectional]

Just a coincidence? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCX4dEqD9E&feature=channel_page)

[L33tz]

Explain where I am wrong or shut up.

you need to be feed information like a child eating baby food.

[L33tz]

What's your problem, dude? He's just asking questions. Nothing wrong with that. Stop acting all high and mighty, dick. :rolleyes:

The whole thread hes making strawman arguments and posting the stupidest theories.

[Firemind]

I don't have convincing answers to the following questions:

1). Motive. One doesn't blow up their own World Trade Centre for no good reason. To be able to push the Patriot Act and gain more control? Neither Bush (who could have ordered it), nor the secret services (who could've carried it out on their own) really needed it.
To give more power to the Government and take freedoms from the people? None of them look like idealists to me, and there was no practical value in it for them.
To justify war in Iraq? Maybe actually linking it to Saddam would've been a good idea then. As far as I know, according to the official version, Iraq had nothing to do with it.
To justify invasion of Afghanistan? Why the fuck would they want to go to Afghanistan?

2). ...Well, that's pretty much it. I'm just interested in the motives.

That is a fucking hard question because it is not really 9/11 itself. It was the events afterward. The U.S. was indoctrinated to believe that the event would happen again if no one went in to Iraq and found who was responsible but, it was the government who was responsible because they did not stop this when we very well knew the government could. Bush Chieny whoever, saw an opportunity to get the military overseas again, but properly... Unlike Vietnam.
But honestly I don't even know how to explain it because people ask the wrong question to begin with.:(

[pygar]

I really doubt it was an inside job. There was probably a massive amount of incompetence that makes the notion of an inside job more palatable.
What made it worse is that American government was doing its best to divert attention from the link between Saudis and terrorist organizations (and in turn the link the American government has with Saudi Arabia).

There are reports of airline shares being sold on the cheap days before the attacks and a murky whisper of gold laden armed vehicles stored in the basements of the WTC. Some Saudis most likely had prior-knowledge (they are very hypocritcal when it comes to biting the hand that feeds them) and a lot of rich businessmen donate to what they see as humanitarian causes (and we see as terrorism)

but as usual, everyone blamed the Israelis (who probably had some intelligence about something going down in America; and may have informed the US government) and the entire issue became a "if you ask questions you're an unpatriotic-Jew-hating Nazi" matter

[Firemind]

I really doubt it was an inside job. There was probably a massive amount of incompetence that makes the notion of an inside job more palatable.
What made it worse is that American government was doing its best to divert attention from the link between Saudis and terrorist organizations (and in turn the link the American government has with Saudi Arabia).

There are reports of airline shares being sold on the cheap days before the attacks and a murky whisper of gold laden armed vehicles stored in the basements of the WTC. Some Saudis most likely had prior-knowledge (they are very hypocritcal when it comes to biting the hand that feeds them) and a lot of rich businessmen donate to what they see as humanitarian causes (and we see as terrorism)

but as usual, everyone blamed the Israelis (who probably had some intelligence about something going down in America; and may have informed the US government) and the entire issue became a "if you ask questions you're an unpatriotic-Jew-hating Nazi" matter

Um... True. Kind of.

[Irukanji]

Note to self: Explosives in the basement = win.

Basically, you use some nifty shaped charges to cut through the supports in the basement, then during a rather high wind, the building acts like a sail, rips the concrete from the ground and the building hits the deck.

Note(2) to self: go back in time and destroy world trade center on september 12.

[Bender]

You are trolling to hard.

No, acually some idiots believe that planes never hit the towers. I for one am firm believer that the flight 97 was shot down by Dick Chaney over PA. There was no remains of the plane, and a 25ft crater in the field. Also the grey cloud above the crash is consistent to a missile attack.

As for the pentagon was hit by a missile I don't know. That one video was pretty convincing. But then that doesn't explain the 4th plane.

[Firemind]

No, acually some idiots believe that planes never hit the towers. I for one am firm believer that the flight 97 was shot down by Dick Chaney over PA. There was no remains of the plane, and a 25ft crater in the field. Also the grey cloud above the crash is consistent to a missile attack.

As for the pentagon was hit by a missile I don't know. That one video was pretty convincing. But then that doesn't explain the 4th plane.

Oh yeah the plane obviously hit the buildings, but it may have not been what cause the collapse. I'm thinking is it was already going down before then.:(

[Bender]

Oh yeah the plane obviously hit the buildings, but it may have not been what cause the collapse. I'm thinking is it was already going down before then.:(

How? The jet fuel reached 2000 degrees, which at that point caused the supports to fail. Also, dated insulation was not flame retardant, which only made things worse. I don't see how it could be us. Are you saying we flew the planes?

[Firemind]

How? The jet fuel reached 2000 degrees, which at that point caused the supports to fail. Also, dated insulation was not flame retardant, which only made things worse. I don't see how it could be us. Are you saying we flew the planes?

No. I am saying that either it's supports were weakened with an explosion, perhaps a bomb in the garage(basement). Or it was in the Upper floors by the windows.(the explosions in the middle.)

[0omnidirectional]

What about the kinetic energy from the plane?
Also, steel doesn't have to melt to become significantly weaker.

Oh yeah, and the death beam from space released from a secret satellite orbiting earth.

[Firemind]

What about the kinetic energy from the plane?
Also, steel doesn't have to melt to become significantly weaker.

Oh yeah, and the death beam from space released from a secret satellite orbiting earth.

The kinetic energy of the plane shifted the building from the base and allowed it to properly fall in the slant pattern you see in the captions.

Retard, they aren't beam satellites like you see in movies it is radioactive waves/UV rays. Either that or they house nuclear weapons, aimed at the earth. More accurately the enemies of the Overseer.

[0omnidirectional]

The kinetic energy of the plane shifted the building from the base and allowed it to properly fall in the slant pattern you see in the captions.

Retard, they aren't beam satellites like you see in movies it is radioactive waves/UV rays. Either that or they house nuclear weapons, aimed at the earth. More accurately the enemies of the Overseer.

Haven't seen the movie, but it is possible to beam UV radiation.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "slant pattern you see in the captions."
What captions? :confused:

[Firemind]

Haven't seen the movie, but it is possible to beam UV radiation.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "slant pattern you see in the captions."
What captions? :confused:

The building basically slanted when it fell. And "captions" means the news report on TV.