What is it

[AnotherAnimal]

That continuously tears down the world's population?

Not in the sense of number, but in the sense that people are deviating away from creativity, originality, individuality, humanity. Replacing free will with society. Adhering to social norms and abandoning decency.

I see the world going down the drain just for the sake of reproducing and increasing the carrying capacity of the Earth just for humans. We're disgusting. We've taken control of nearly everything and have eaten it alive just to shit it out into a pile of filth.

Free will has been abolished and replaced with consumerism, ignorance, arrogance, belief, and sordid images of history never changing with ancient traditions of aristocracy taking order.

I thought we were supposed to be intelligent and rational.

Anyone else feel an apocalypse is in order?

[Snoopy]

Puberty is strong with this one.

[LiquidIce]

Puberty is strong with this one.

Haha, everyone has to make a thread like this at least once. I remember mine from totse somewhere in 2007 or 2006.

And OP no, we're not in such a bad situation, people aren't getting less and less creative...

Sorry, I'm too lazy to write it all out, just wait a few days/weeks and it'll pass.

[AnotherAnimal]

I truly think they are. My generation, the one that's still in highschool or just graduated, has been raised by the current adults who implanted into our heads that we have to go to school to get a job to move out to have kids to retire "happy" and then rot away in the piss of it all in the end.

It's been implanted in our heads that the only way to be happy is to have money, items, property. That we must get married to keep the human race going. However, why must we do this? Life shouldn't have a set path. Life is short and we have to enjoy it every chance we get, but we're losing chances by forcing ourselves to follow this path of the norm.

People are numbing their minds, not thinking creatively. Television, movies, and all other media sources are who I blame for this. Though blame solves nothing. No one reasons anymore, they just do what they're told by authorities and media. Nationalism and consumerism is the new thought process and quite frankly, I'm appalled.

[AnotherAnimal]

maybe i should just shut up and go buy a people magazine fuck

[Mirana]

Look at the benefits, you still have working electricity and your door isn't being busted down by foreign foot soldiers. Maybe there's a reason?

maybe.

[LiquidIce]

Yeah, people need a society to keep in check lots of other stuff. Sure, it doesn't matter if you live a thousand miles from the next human being, but I'm not even sure if this is the ol' case of trading in freedom for safety.

OP, no one is making you get married and rot during retirement. What's the problem? If there are people who want that then who are you to judge them and stop them?

If you wanna learn and use your reason, who's stopping you? Sure, you might go to a shitty school and have a shitty teacher but:
a) it's still your choice, you can change schools.
b) you have teh power of teh interbuttz at your disposal, yay learning.

I believe it is a person's choice, they just get that moment in their lives like :
"Hey, I can buy some pink plastic crap and listen to Spears or I can go read some Sagan... I think I'll choose..."

It's their damn choice.

[AnotherAnimal]

I get that. I understand people would rather be walking computers than a human being and that I have no right to say their wrong, but I just abhor the direction of the human race.

I hear what your saying about choice, but people HAVE lost free will because they no longer feel they can make every choice in their lives, they think something is required of them. Perhaps my point is rather abstruse, but what do I know.

[LiquidIce]

Damn it. You're not getting it.

Compared to 30 years ago we have more artists and more poets. Because of this turning into computers thing you mentioned. More photoshop, more poem websites...

If you abhor the direction where the human is race is going, where is it going,mind telling me? And what direction should it go?

And something is required from the people, it's called a social contract and thanks to it we are able to properly function in society. That's why a mohawk wearing nudist running down the street after little girls is rather in bad taste, it breaks the social rules and people get nervous. These rules allow for maximum efficiency and calmness, they reduce the friction of human contact. We need that or we'd all kill each other probably.

Also, you're forgetting that these will-less people you speak of have already made their choice, they choose to walk their own path, the path in which they think they cannot make certain choices.

[Lman1578]

Haha, everyone has to make a thread like this at least once. I remember mine from totse somewhere in 2007 or 2006.

And OP no, we're not in such a bad situation, people aren't getting less and less creative...

Sorry, I'm too lazy to write it all out, just wait a few days/weeks and it'll pass.

lol... we have similar sigs!!

[Lman1578]

I truly think they are. My generation, the one that's still in highschool or just graduated, has been raised by the current adults who implanted into our heads that we have to go to school to get a job to move out to have kids to retire "happy" and then rot away in the piss of it all in the end.

It's been implanted in our heads that the only way to be happy is to have money, items, property. That we must get married to keep the human race going. However, why must we do this? Life shouldn't have a set path. Life is short and we have to enjoy it every chance we get, but we're losing chances by forcing ourselves to follow this path of the norm.

People are numbing their minds, not thinking creatively. Television, movies, and all other media sources are who I blame for this. Though blame solves nothing. No one reasons anymore, they just do what they're told by authorities and media. Nationalism and consumerism is the new thought process and quite frankly, I'm appalled.



I think you can be partially right, some kids are definitely losing some of their creativity but its in different areas and their gaining it in others. Its just the change in times and it will be a continues cycle forever. Have faith in people, a some points there really is no reason to have any but what else do we got?

[Powdered Toast Man please]

what it is?

[cellophane]

OP, I suggest you read "God's Debris" by Scott Adams.

[JoePedo]

Look at the benefits, you still have working electricity and your door isn't being busted down by foreign foot soldiers. Maybe there's a reason?

maybe.

:facepalm:

NOT worth it. The fact that the foot soldiers kicking down your door wear the flag of county does NOT suddenly make it "cool" or a "pleasant" experience.

...and if you can't monkeyfuck a little electricity in the woods, you're a fucking moron. If you think manufacture requires some sort of dystopic neofascism, you're a moron who needs to take up arts and crafts until you learn something.

sigh.

What is it that continuously tears down the world's population?

Not in the sense of number, but in the sense that people are deviating away from creativity, originality, individuality, humanity. Replacing free will with society. Adhering to social norms and abandoning decency.

"Remember, remember, eternal September, that treasonous, corporatist plot..."

OP : welcome to the revolution. The last round was killed in a single concerted campaign through MTV, Micro$hit, and AOHell. Personally, I suggest you acqquire the seeds of ipomea tricolor, variety 'heavenly blue,' en masse, and throw them at vacant lots and drainage ditches wherever possible. When this is complete, the thousand and one sacred recipies will be unfurled and a billion Families will rise anew out of the ashes of the old work...

As a little tip, the one good thing about mindless, shallow, materialist hedonism is that... it likes a party. This is a powerful weapon of decentralized mass media. For the moment, however, continue with the johnny appleseed project. Further suggestions for the revolution will be forthcoming. There are many knowledges.

You may find a cabal or three already in operation in these forums. The revolution will not be televised, but it will decentralize media.

[Mirana]

:facepalm:

NOT worth it. The fact that the foot soldiers kicking down your door wear the flag of county does NOT suddenly make it "cool" or a "pleasant" experience.

...and if you can't monkeyfuck a little electricity in the woods, you're a fucking moron. If you think manufacture requires some sort of dystopic neofascism, you're a moron who needs to take up arts and crafts until you learn something.

sigh.

Oh boy, how exciting my first JoePedo counter attack.

I was merely just putting into perceptive his assumption on society as a whole, and why it is the way it is. If it were simpler,better, more freedom...whatever, we would have those 2 reasons occur in every day life.

Pretty simple really, you just need to complicate everything and I understand that. :)

[AnotherAnimal]

Damn it. You're not getting it.

Compared to 30 years ago we have more artists and more poets. Because of this turning into computers thing you mentioned. More photoshop, more poem websites...

If you abhor the direction where the human is race is going, where is it going,mind telling me? And what direction should it go?

And something is required from the people, it's called a social contract and thanks to it we are able to properly function in society. That's why a mohawk wearing nudist running down the street after little girls is rather in bad taste, it breaks the social rules and people get nervous. These rules allow for maximum efficiency and calmness, they reduce the friction of human contact. We need that or we'd all kill each other probably.

Also, you're forgetting that these will-less people you speak of have already made their choice, they choose to walk their own path, the path in which they think they cannot make certain choices.

I, personally, am seeing less creative minds such as writers, artists, what have you. I, personally, am seeing an increase in people who either work all day just to watch television or work and get fucked up.

Does society exist for the individual or the individual for society? Are you and I as people to be used, directed, educated, controlled, shaped to a certain pattern by society and government? Or do society and the State exist for the individual? I believe it to be the latter. If it were the former, then individuality would have to be abolished, but it isn't, so it shouldn't. Yet people are treating society as though we exist for it. Society exists for us, therefore individuality and freedom must be emphasized.

People make choices that limit their freedom because they were raised to do so, taught to do so. Most humans have lost the sense of free will merely because they were told to act a certain way.

The social contract is an ancient tradition which was used to solve ancient problems. You cannot use an old solution for a new problem and that is what the social contract is, an old solution.

I see the human race going down a path of conglomerate globalization. I see it going down a path of complacence and passiveness. A world where no one objects to what the higher "authorities" do.

I think you can be partially right, some kids are definitely losing some of their creativity but its in different areas and their gaining it in others. Its just the change in times and it will be a continues cycle forever. Have faith in people, a some points there really is no reason to have any but what else do we got?

I have no hope in society. Hope lies within the individual, but the individual is dying out.

what it is?

That should not be what it is. If you are complacent with the world of today then you'll be complacent with the world of tomorrow where you are given no rights. Where the State, society has subtly taken away each of you "natural" rights one by one, if they can even be called natural for they are given to us as civil rights by the State.

"Remember, remember, eternal September, that treasonous, corporatist plot..."

OP : welcome to the revolution. The last round was killed in a single concerted campaign through MTV, Micro$hit, and AOHell. Personally, I suggest you acqquire the seeds of ipomea tricolor, variety 'heavenly blue,' en masse, and throw them at vacant lots and drainage ditches wherever possible. When this is complete, the thousand and one sacred recipies will be unfurled and a billion Families will rise anew out of the ashes of the old work...

As a little tip, the one good thing about mindless, shallow, materialist hedonism is that... it likes a party. This is a powerful weapon of decentralized mass media. For the moment, however, continue with the johnny appleseed project. Further suggestions for the revolution will be forthcoming. There are many knowledges.

You may find a cabal or three already in operation in these forums. The revolution will not be televised, but it will decentralize media.

I'll remember.

[Funkdaphile]

That should not be what it is. If you are complacent with the world of today then you'll be complacent with the world of tomorrow where you are given no rights. Where the State, society has subtly taken away each of you "natural" rights one by one, if they can even be called natural for they are given to us as civil rights by the State.



I'll remember.

You choose what rights you allow the State and any authority for that matter to oppress. Your virtues, your opinions, your convictions are your own to keep, share , and give away. Rights are not given, that is what makes them rights. They are eternal, nonnegotiable, non-tradable, and lack substitutes. All that the State can do is try to suppress the freedom you have to express and practice these rights, and they can only do that with your permission and compliance, either explicitly or implicitly.

What you may be witnessing is the mass compliance of people with what you observe as oppressive practices, laws, social expectations, etc. However, that is the individual's choice to make. If you do not want to comply, then don't. It is not a vacuum that is sucking you into it, it is a doorway you can choose to walk through or walk away from.

It is exactly like when the police pull you over. They can say all they want about mandatory searches and making it easier on you if you confess and don't ask for a lawyer, etc. But it is up to you to either let them do that, or to choose a better path for yourself as you see fit.