RIP - Stop

[BananaFuck]

I don't know if Stop from TotSE made it over to Zoklet, but if you know him, you would know he was a great guy. He died yesterday in Iraq due to a roadside bomb.

[shopping cart for brains]

I remember Stop's name, nothing other than that though.

[Lman1578]

This is very unfortunate indeed.

[:MAD:ijuana]

I Think i remember him but idk ... Thats a sad story though:(

[Djaqaver]

28-Aug-2009 2 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US NAME NOT RELEASED YET Baghdad Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
23-Aug-2009 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US 2nd Lieutenant Joey Fortin Muhallah (near Baghdad) Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack

[BananaFuck]

I went to school with him, and his sister posted something on his facebook.

Edit - It might have been today... His sister posted it like 6 hours ago.

[Lman1578]

I went to school with him, and his sister posted something on his facebook.

I couldnt imagine that happening to a sibling must be rough... which means she may need some comfort...

Is she hot?

[Djaqaver]

I couldnt imagine that happening to a sibling must be rough... which means she may need some comfort...

Is she hot?

Bannanafuck nows your chance to make a move.

Remember if she says "I'm on my period" ask her "is your mouth bleeding?"

[xippilli]

I remember Stop. This is saddening news.

Go find yourselves a flag and salute it.

[T.K. Baha]

Ive never heard of him. Damn shame he died to fatten someones wallet.

[Tunicate]

That's so weird :pinch: :thumbsdown:

[Vizier]

Well he certainly did Stop. Blame the government and the bullshit wars in the middle east.

[LavaRed]

May he rest in peace :(

[Overman]

An honorable way to go.

*salutes*

[Mr. Dazed and Confused]

I think he made it over here, one of his posts are in the similar thread section, his last login was in March. That sucks to here about, I remember him from totse. Iraq is a fucking insane place right now.

[PuttinOnTheRitz]

An honorable way to go.

*salutes*

By a roadside bomb?

*middle finger salute*

[MandatorySuicide]

Dude.. That's fucking terrible... I didn't see Stop on Zoklet, but he used to frequent Totse very regularly, and he was a really cool guy. Thanks for letting us know what happened. My condolences to you and the rest of his friends and family. :(

[tim]

I'm sure the oil industry made a bit more money with his efforts.

It's a terrible shame he had to give his life for such an undignified cause.

Didn't know him but R.I.P. May justice come soon.

[cosmo]

Wow I remember Stop...

[NamelessNom4d]

http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=16523

Looks like he posted in HB.

:(

I never knew him... but I bet he was cool. :(

[cosmo]

http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=16523

Looks like he posted in HB.

:(

I never knew him... but I bet he was cool. :(

Yeah he posted there. I remember him. Of course certain Brits are probably quite happy with this news... they hate HB and they hate American soldiers.

[Daily]

Terrible stuff.

[Overman]

By a roadside bomb?

*middle finger salute*

I'd rather die in the army than sitting at home getting fat.

Yeah the US army is being used for fucked-up purposes these days but I still respect these guys for serving.

[Jukebox_Hero]

Stop was very fucking cool.

[H a r o l d]

haAHahaHaHaHaHaHaHAAHHaHa O w N e d


<Stop> well he joined the army
* SuperSpeeDz has quit (Quit: )
<Stop> dying is just an occupational hazzard
<xippilli> That it is
<xippilli> Still, its a tradgety.

yea wat a tradgety : ( : ( :(

<Ox29A> Stops life was stopped

L-O-L!

[Dfg]

Rest in Peace Stop. You will be missed :(.

I hope this war will end soon because I don't see an end in the near future. Stop was cool, I wished I could have known him better :(.

[T.K. Baha]

It was one of your people that blew him up.

[cosmo]

Rest in Peace Stop. You will be missed :(.

I hope this war will end soon because I don't see an end in the near future. Stop was cool, I wished I could have known him better :(.

Pfft... how hollow is that?

[Sir Thomas Gayfa]

Rest in Peace Stop. You will be missed :(.

I hope this war will end soon because I don't see an end in the near future. Stop was cool, I wished I could have known him better :(.

ALLAHU ACKBAR SANDMONKEY!:rant:

[Dfg]

Pfft... how hollow is that?

ALLAHU ACKBAR SANDMONKEY!:rant:



If you have a problem with me take it to PEOO. Do not try to derail this thread.

[H a r o l d]

i wonder why some mods are intentionally ignoring this news?

[cosmo]

If you have a problem with me take it to PEOO. Do not try to derail this thread.

The least you could do is contain your hate-filled anti-American satire to threads unrelated to American soldiers slaughtered by those you aspire to become...

You knew Stop about as well as the guy who planted the IED that killed him.

[Irukanji]

Fucking Iraqi's :mad:

Leave Dfg alone or i'll roadside bomb your mothers house.

R.I.P. Stop, shit way to die, with all the bleeding and shit before you finally kick it.

[Shaggy]

Well he certainly did Stop. Blame the government and the bullshit wars in the middle east.

This. Fuck the old for orchestrating wars and sending the young. The politicians should be out there fighting if they want this fucking war.

[zingalong]

At least be broke the cycle of moping around this shit-hole.

[Blunderfail]

BAI2U

[PuttinOnTheRitz]

BAI2U

NOLAY4U

[Bakayar]

shit happens, and then you die.
R.I.P, stop, i didnt know ya but i do mean it.
i sugest that we change his title to something in memory of him, cant be worse than most of this thread.

[Winter]

1 less dumbass american fighting a pointless war/cause. He deserved to die. Hopefully Iraq continues to defend there country from the invading USA country. Iraq never did shit to the US, but the US has to be assholes and fight everyone and boast about it with lies of there supposed superiority.

[nutsack]

1 less dumbass american fighting a pointless war/cause. He deserved to die. Hopefully Iraq continues to defend there country from the invading USA country. Iraq never did shit to the US, but the US has to be assholes and fight everyone and boast about it with lies of there supposed superiority.

Shut up idiot/troll

[sideshow]

I'd rather die in the army than sitting at home getting fat.

Yeah the US army is being used for fucked-up purposes these days but I still respect these guys for serving.

Yeah, dying with a piece of meal sticking out of my gut would a 100 times better than dying on my couch :rolleyes:
Fool.

[nutsack]

Yeah, dying with a piece of meal sticking out of my gut would a 100 times better than dying on my couch :rolleyes:
Fool.

Death is death, who's the fool? Life is what's important. I hope you're making the most of it there on your couch

[bigfoot]

he joins the army in the middle of a war??

sounds like suicide to me.
so this long protracted form of masochism is to be saluted?

fucking muppet

[crazzyass]

That's a shame. One less Zokleteer makes it a little colder of a world. OP, I understand sharing his name could lead to a loss of privacy for his family, but could you at least post what unit he was in? If he's in my old one I'll shit a brick, and be that much sadder. :(

[crazzyass]

he joins the army in the middle of a war??

sounds like suicide to me.
so this long protracted form of masochism is to be saluted?

fucking muppet

People join the military for innumerable reasons. It isn't your place to judge why he did what he did.

[bigfoot]

People join the military for innumerable reasons. It isn't your place to judge why he did what he did.

its not my place?? so any kidiots reading this thread thinking if you put your life on the line people will respect you??

wake up, if you gave a fuck about this lad you would start campaigning HARD for an end to this war.

he joined up in the middle of it, he got killed, its not a surprise, it would be like him getting HIV after sharing needles.

joining the army during a war is STUPID (unless your about to be invaded:))

[crazzyass]

its not my place?? so any kidiots reading this thread thinking if you put your life on the line people will respect you??

wake up, if you gave a fuck about this lad you would start campaigning HARD for an end to this war.

he joined up in the middle of it, he got killed, its not a surprise, it would be like him getting HIV after sharing needles.

joining the army during a war is STUPID (unless your about to be invaded:))

No, it isn't your place. You don't even know his name, much less his reason for joining. Stop acting so immature.

Oh, so because I called you out on insulting someone you don't know or understand, I must support the war? What a dumb fuck you must truly be.

[bigfoot]

I didn't say you support the war, I said if you gave a fuck about this lad you would campaign hard for an end to the war, if you are doing that then well done, pat on the back..

your "friend" is dead defending the price of gas, so say a little prayer for him and sniff goodbye next time your filling up your tank

[Overman]

Yeah, dying with a piece of meal sticking out of my gut would a 100 times better than dying on my couch :rolleyes:
Fool.

You're pathetic, just FYI.

[bigfoot]

right thats it, I'm off to watch "the hurt locker" right now

[crazzyass]

I didn't say you support the war, I said if you gave a fuck about this lad you would campaign hard for an end to the war, if you are doing that then well done, pat on the back..

your "friend" is dead defending the price of gas, so say a little prayer for him and sniff goodbye next time your filling up your tank

I performed my tours under official protest and have protested publicly since I've been out. You're implying a lot of bullshit rather heavily.


Whoa, you're so edgy. What, do you listen to Green Day or something? I bet you aren't part of a "redneck agenda" either, are ya? That's deep man, that's deep. I'm sure you feel that you view reality more accurately than others, that you understand how the world works better than all the sheep that just listen to the mainstream media and all of those politicians. That you just get it, and others don't. You're so deep.

[bigfoot]

I don't listen to green day and I have no idea who "redneck agenda" are.

deeper than sheep??

glad to know I'm not the only ex-military on this thread that publicly protests against the war, right on bro

[BananaFuck]

I don't agree with the war, but I believe that everyone can have their own views on what is right and wrong for them. So now that is out of the way...

He was in the Oregon National Guard, and was serving with the 41st Special Troops Battalion, 41st Infantry Brigade Combat Team.

[Jitsu6500]

I didn't know him but he sounded pretty cool guy.

[tweezed]

I heard on CBS news that a female reporter (can't remember her name) was seriously injured in a roadside bomb, on the same day that stop died. Maybe she was interviewing him?

[Nero]

What? People die in the army? I bet he totally didn't even see that one coming.

[Irukanji]

Yeah, dying with a piece of meal sticking out of my gut would a 100 times better than dying on my couch :rolleyes:
Fool.

This. But it was more likely pieces of rusty metal, glass, etc and he woulda been shotgunned with shrapnel....

To everyone saying why did he join in the middle of a war - why do you work in a shit fast food place or build computers for a living, etc? He got the short straw and so his unit got deployed. Simple as that. Easy solution to iraq = nuclear barrage.

[bigfoot]

This. But it was more likely pieces of rusty metal, glass, etc and he woulda been shotgunned with shrapnel....

To everyone saying why did he join in the middle of a war - why do you work in a shit fast food place or build computers for a living, etc? He got the short straw and so his unit got deployed. Simple as that. Easy solution to iraq = nuclear barrage.

Short straw? that would be almost inevitable during a war! its highly likely that your unit will be deployed if you join the army during a war. so the guy had a death wish or was looking for kicks "bravo"

what a fucking waste of what sounds like a decent young man.

Nuclear option would not work on Iraq because america is there for Oil, its an oil war for fucks sake, people on both sides are dying cos american voters get upset when the price goes up on their tank of gas.

I watched "the hurt locker" good film about bomb disposal crew in iraq

[nutsack]

your "friend" is dead defending the price of gas, so say a little prayer for him and sniff goodbye next time your filling up your tank

:facepalm:

[Jitsu6500]

rip michael jackson

[crazzyass]

Short straw? that would be almost inevitable during a war! its highly likely that your unit will be deployed if you join the army during a war. so the guy had a death wish or was looking for kicks "bravo"

what a fucking waste of what sounds like a decent young man.

Nuclear option would not work on Iraq because america is there for Oil, its an oil war for fucks sake, people on both sides are dying cos american voters get upset when the price goes up on their tank of gas.

I watched "the hurt locker" good film about bomb disposal crew in iraq

Fuck, I don't even necessarily disagree with you, but you're such an asshole I just have to engage:

What makes you say we are there for oil? Prove that statement.

[bigfoot]

why else would the USA be there? regime change?? please.

I was in the army and 19 when the first gulf war started late 1990, I use to have 17 year old kidiots taking the piss out of me and shouting "I AM PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY AND FIGHT IN IRAQ"

funny same guys came back from their tours and actually apologized to me! (which takes a lot of balls in my book) they basically agreed and thought that the whole thing was about oil.
and what really pissed them off was the prince of brunei giving every serving soldier $1,000 bonus, which greatly pleased many a soldier, unfortunately the top brass in the uk turned round and said
"we are not mercenaries we cannot accept the money"
so why where they there? cos saddam invaded kuwait our friends, why are they our friends? oil.

the whole world runs on oil and Iraq has a hell of a lot of it, if you don't control it then you sure as hell don't want your enemies to control it.

the reason for being there cos of regime change is nonsense, their are loads of corrupt/bad leaders in the world, USA doesn't invade them.

fighting over natural resources is nothing new, It fucking annoys me when people aren't honest about it.

some of my best friends turned into fucking zombies from gulf war syndrome, which is NOT shell shock (they recovered after a few years)

depleted uranium CHECK
organophosphates sprayed on tent city daily CHECK
NAPS tablets daily CHECK
breathing in burning oil wells CHECK

and relax 2,3

yes I am an asshole

[crazzyass]

why else would the USA be there? regime change?? please.

I was in the army and 19 when the first gulf war started late 1990, I use to have 17 year old kidiots taking the piss out of me and shouting "I AM PROUD TO SERVE MY COUNTRY AND FIGHT IN IRAQ"

funny same guys came back from their tours and actually apologized to me! (which takes a lot of balls in my book) they basically agreed and thought that the whole thing was about oil.
and what really pissed them off was the prince of brunei giving every serving soldier $1,000 bonus, which greatly pleased many a soldier, unfortunately the top brass in the uk turned round and said
"we are not mercenaries we cannot accept the money"
so why where they there? cos saddam invaded kuwait our friends, why are they our friends? oil.

the whole world runs on oil and Iraq has a hell of a lot of it, if you don't control it then you sure as hell don't want your enemies to control it.

the reason for being there cos of regime change is nonsense, their are loads of corrupt/bad leaders in the world, USA doesn't invade them.

fighting over natural resources is nothing new, It fucking annoys me when people aren't honest about it.

some of my best friends turned into fucking zombies from gulf war syndrome, which is NOT shell shock (they recovered after a few years)

depleted uranium CHECK
organophosphates sprayed on tent city daily CHECK
NAPS tablets daily CHECK
breathing in burning oil wells CHECK

and relax 2,3

yes I am an asshole

That didn't substantiate your claim whatsoever. How is the US profiting from the oil? We get more from Canada than we do Iraq. Hell, we get more from MEXICO than we do Iraq.

We invaded Iraq because Bush is a dumb shit. I think he actually thought it was a good idea for national security. I really think he thought that.

[plehem12]

fuck. i was cool with that guy way back in the day. didnt even know he was in the army. this makes me sad.

im gonna have a beer in his honor and ill be saluting tonight for him.

RIP

[Mudokon Farmer]

...:(...

[nutsack]

That didn't substantiate your claim whatsoever. How is the US profiting from the oil? We get more from Canada than we do Iraq. Hell, we get more from MEXICO than we do Iraq.

We invaded Iraq because Bush is a dumb shit. I think he actually thought it was a good idea for national security. I really think he thought that.

United States promised over $20 billion in reconstruction money in the form of credit against Iraq's future oil revenues. Iraq has a shitload (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Iraq) of oil and the country will always have strong influence from the USA now. I think it was a factor, and can you blame them? The shit is pretty damn important.

It wasn't the only factor though.

[skyclaw441]

RIP. I'm sorry that you died because of America's greed and the Bush family's lust for Iraq's oil.

[Tevar]

he joins the army in the middle of a war??

sounds like suicide to me.
so this long protracted form of masochism is to be saluted?

fucking muppet

Yah...I'm glad I waited to become a firefighter until after they fireproofed the entire world. :rolleyes:

I'm glad I waited to become a policeman until after there was no more violent crime. :rolleyes:

He was in the Oregon National Guard. What other job compensates you almost $20,000 a year for working an average of 24 hours a month? Depending on when he joined he very well could have served a full term without deploying. Sucks that he had to deploy, but he didn't puss out like scores of others. That is commendable if nothing else is.

RIP Stop

[rabbhimself]

Being from a military family (UK) this saddens me...But at the same time...

Pics or it didn't happen.

[bigfoot]

think its a bit stupid if you join the us army and think your not going to war at the moment, so he was in the national guard?? so you cant expect for their not to be rotation of the troops.

if he was doing it for kicks, well he lost his life, thats what happens when you gamble with your life.

if you think usa is in iraq for "security" reasons you need a long talking too, or go buy a passport and travel and LISTEN to other people apart from fox news.

have a look at a peak oil website and you'll start to understand about how valuable this black gold is

www.theoildrum.com is a good place to start

[Barney'sDealer]

This. Fuck the old for orchestrating wars and sending the young. The politicians should be out there fighting if they want this fucking war.

This

[yawanur]

Ive never heard of him. Damn shame he died to fatten someones wallet.

It's so awful to remember it!

[crazzyass]

think its a bit stupid if you join the us army and think your not going to war at the moment, so he was in the national guard?? so you cant expect for their not to be rotation of the troops.

if he was doing it for kicks, well he lost his life, thats what happens when you gamble with your life.

if you think usa is in iraq for "security" reasons you need a long talking too, or go buy a passport and travel and LISTEN to other people apart from fox news.

have a look at a peak oil website and you'll start to understand about how valuable this black gold is

www.theoildrum.com is a good place to start

Hey, dumb shit, read my post again. I don't support the fucking war. I said that it seemed to be rooted in incompetence, not oil lust. Doesn't mean it's any better.

[crazzyass]

United States promised over $20 billion in reconstruction money in the form of credit against Iraq's future oil revenues. Iraq has a shitload (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Iraq) of oil and the country will always have strong influence from the USA now. I think it was a factor, and can you blame them? The shit is pretty damn important.

It wasn't the only factor though.

Thank God, finally an intelligent post.

I would have to agree it was likely a significant factor. And from a purely selfish utilitarian point of view, the War will probably have helped us in the very very long run. But for now we're having to deal with the blown money, blown lives, and the generation of vengeful Muslims that will looking to kick our asses first chance they get.

[bushy]

Dude, this is the reason I got out. But I remember stop, and thats really sad.
I had three friends from basic die too.

[elf omg]

He didn't deserve to die, but no one should feel sorry for him. It was his decision to join the military and possibly throw his life away fighting a war that previously had nothing at all to do with him or his life.

My condolences to his friends and family, but maybe they should have tried harder to talk him out of the military. Surely his recruiter, the general "Support Our Troops!" populous and the buddies he made when preparing to join the military poisoned his mind into thinking it was something worth dying for; I'm positive he could have used differing opinions on the matter.

[TruthWielder]

He didn't deserve to die, but no one should feel sorry for him. It was his decision to join the military and possibly throw his life away fighting a war that previously had nothing at all to do with him or his life.

My condolences to his friends and family, but maybe they should have tried harder to talk him out of the military. Surely his recruiter, the general "Support Our Troops!" populous and the buddies he made when preparing to join the military poisoned his mind into thinking it was something worth dying for; I'm positive he could have used differing opinions on the matter.

Fuck you.

[PuttinOnTheRitz]

He didn't deserve to die, but no one should feel sorry for him. It was his decision to join the military and possibly throw his life away fighting a war that previously had nothing at all to do with him or his life.

My condolences to his friends and family, but maybe they should have tried harder to talk him out of the military. Surely his recruiter, the general "Support Our Troops!" populous and the buddies he made when preparing to join the military poisoned his mind into thinking it was something worth dying for; I'm positive he could have used differing opinions on the matter.

Fuck you.

[TruthWielder]

Some people join the army for the opportunities. Some people join it for the sheer thrill. Some people join it because they believe their country is doing the right thing. I'd like to propose a different view.

When YOUR country is at war, despite whatever sequence of events got it there, YOU as an able bodied citizen are partially responsible for it. Why? Because your votes, your conversations, your actions, and your beliefs led to your country pursuing a certain course of action. You, through positive or negative effort, with your actions made certain events come to pass. Why? Because we live in a democracy, of the people, by the people, and for the people where the will of the people is reflected in the actions of the government. Did you forget that?

You are making a very serious mistake if you think that once a certain course of action is initiated that just sitting around bitching and whining vainly to strangers is going to get things done. You either create momentum to pursue a new course of action or shut the fuck up. Meanwhile you still fucking support your country. It is still the most free nation on this earth. That is why an American can just as easily go to war and just as easily denounce it. Because that is the definition of an American. You must support your country just as much as you support your beliefs because you understand that only in your country may you have the freedom to do so. Those are the principles we were founded on.

Now when it comes to war there are two ways to end it: either win or go home. If you cared enough you pathetic lemmings you would have joined up to speed that process. Patriotism? Fine. I call it duty.

Cowards.

[elf omg]

Why? Because we live in a capitalist democracy, of the money, by the money, and for the money where the will of the people with the money is reflected in the actions of the government.

Fixed.

Maybe we should talk about this elsewhere though.

[crazzyass]

Fixed.

Maybe we should talk about this elsewhere though.

Maybe you should go spend more time with friends. Oh wait, you've told them all to commit suicide.

[cosmo]

Some people join the army for the opportunities. Some people join it for the sheer thrill. Some people join it because they believe their country is doing the right thing. I'd like to propose a different view.

When YOUR country is at war, despite whatever sequence of events got it there, YOU as an able bodied citizen are partially responsible for it. Why? Because your votes, your conversations, your actions, and your beliefs led to your country pursuing a certain course of action. You, through positive or negative effort, with your actions made certain events come to pass. Why? Because we live in a democracy, of the people, by the people, and for the people where the will of the people is reflected in the actions of the government. Did you forget that?

You are making a very serious mistake if you think that once a certain course of action is initiated that just sitting around bitching and whining vainly to strangers is going to get things done. You either create momentum to pursue a new course of action or shut the fuck up. Meanwhile you still fucking support your country. It is still the most free nation on this earth. That is why an American can just as easily go to war and just as easily denounce it. Because that is the definition of an American. You must support your country just as much as you support your beliefs because you understand that only in your country may you have the freedom to do so. Those are the principles we were founded on.

Now when it comes to war there are two ways to end it: either win or go home. If you cared enough you pathetic lemmings you would have joined up to speed that process. Patriotism? Fine. I call it duty.

Cowards.

Stop trying to turn this simple memorial topic into a flag-waving, gun-toting, vein-bulging, right-wing political statement. Have some respect, please.

[Metafire]

'Tis a shame. May the flying spaghetti monster embrace you with his noodly appendages and lavish you with many virgins(female, under 25), and eternal peace and satisfaction.

A moment for Stop.

[TruthWielder]

Stop trying to turn this simple memorial topic into a flag-waving, gun-toting, vein-bulging, right-wing political statement. Have some respect, please.

The views I expressed in that post are older than either party. Actually, older than all political parties you mouth breathing troglodyte. Older than fucking Rome.

Fuck, as soon as a guy comes in here with opinions that aren’t so vaguely, vapidly, conformist leftist someone has a problem with the opinion that this guy did not die in vain.

Flag waving, gun toting…what a stupid thing to say. And apart from your narrow stereotypes, so fucking irrelevant.

Fuck you too.

[cosmo]

The views I expressed in that post are older than either party. Actually, older than all political parties you mouth breathing troglodyte. Older than fucking Rome.

Fuck, as soon as a guy comes in here with opinions that aren’t so vaguely, vapidly, conformist leftist someone has a problem with the opinion that this guy did not die in vain.

Flag waving, gun toting…what a stupid thing to say. And apart from your narrow stereotypes, so fucking irrelevant.

Fuck you too.

I asked nicely to keep your politics to yourself yet you insist upon besmirching the memorial of a fallen soldier with your angry partisanship. Good job... you're quite a patriot.

[TruthWielder]

I asked nicely to keep your politics to yourself yet you insist upon besmirching the memorial of a fallen soldier with your angry partisanship. Good job... you're quite a patriot.

How conspicuous that I'm the only one singled out for my philosophy (not politics you douche) when a handful of usurpers of this dead mans cause and intentions parade like jesters. I am angry at inanity and ignorance in this mans memorial thread, not the political views of the collective dumb fucks.

Either way, as bigoted and hyprocritical as you are...you're right. No more complaints from me.

RIP Stop

[skyclaw441]

I do agree that the war in Iraq was fucking useless, but that does not mean that we should not pay our respects and be sad that we lost a comrade. He did what he believed was right, and anyone that does that should get props. (Except those that commit crimes.)

[Metafire]

The views I expressed in that post are older than either party. Actually, older than all political parties you mouth breathing troglodyte. Older than fucking Rome.

Fuck, as soon as a guy comes in here with opinions that aren’t so vaguely, vapidly, conformist leftist someone has a problem with the opinion that this guy did not die in vain.

Flag waving, gun toting…what a stupid thing to say. And apart from your narrow stereotypes, so fucking irrelevant.

Fuck you too.

Can you guys please take this argument out of this thread. If not for respect for the dead, then just because it's pretty redundant. Not just you TruthWielder, but cosmo as well. Please. Have some common courtesy while you guys start a thread to argue in.