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Powdered Toast Man please
09-06-2009, 01:24 AM
So what does this mean? (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090903163725.htm)

Mantikore
09-06-2009, 01:38 AM
wow thats pretty mindbending, though i cant really think of any application for it

JustAnotherAsshole
09-06-2009, 01:52 AM
What does that mean?

The Jitterskull
09-06-2009, 12:36 PM
What does that mean?

Magnets usually have two polar moments, they found one with strictly one! :)
... did I read that article right?

mafiabro
09-06-2009, 01:53 PM
at temperatures from 0.6 to 2 Kelvin
That's pretty damn cold!:eek:

Snoopy
09-06-2009, 02:01 PM
What does what mean?

BoilingLeadBath
09-07-2009, 01:01 AM
*ahem*

Pseudo-monopoles.

These aren't real monopoles, they just look like them.

rabbit boy
09-07-2009, 01:09 AM
My physics teacher mentioned that magnetic monopoles were possible, but that practically no one thought they actually existed.

*ahem*

Pseudo-monopoles.

These aren't real monopoles, they just look like them.

Could you explain?

Also, in almost all normal situations, magnets are always found with a north and south pole. If, say you cut a magnet in half, then those two halves will still have both north and south poles. So finding a magnetic monopole means it only has a north or south pole, instead of both.

Powdered Toast Man please
09-07-2009, 01:55 AM
*ahem*

Pseudo-monopoles.

These aren't real monopoles, they just look like them.

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090903/full/news.2009.881.html


couldnt find any thing about "Pseudo-monopoles" in that article^

Rude Louis
09-07-2009, 01:59 AM
This will be useful if someone ever needs to break an inmate out of Hekiton Kyrez in order to get information on the coordinates to the Galactic layline.

Unholy Batman
09-07-2009, 04:35 AM
This will be useful if someone ever needs to break an inmate out of Hekiton Kyrez in order to get information on the coordinates to the Galactic layline.

and then it hit me....:hrmph:

so, where is that mother fucker at, it sounds expensive

LiquidIce
09-07-2009, 06:10 AM
Cool. Also, I think I heard/read somewhere that monopoles do exist, only they're singularities or anomalies far away in space. :confused:

PirateJoe
09-07-2009, 06:28 AM
According to Wiki, magnetic monopoles are predicted by the standard model. Yay science!

BoilingLeadBath
09-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Sometimes, three of the pyramid's four corners align together and create a region of north or south magnetic charge at the centre of the pyramid. The charge isn't attached to any physical object, but it behaves just as a monopole would.

That is, these are almost certainly only a pseudo particles. (think "phonons")

It does serve as a double-check to the math of the standard model (in the algebraic sense), but does not indicate that real monopoles exist.

rabbit boy
09-08-2009, 03:55 AM
That is, these are almost certainly only a pseudo particles. (think "phonons")

It does serve as a double-check to the math of the standard model (in the algebraic sense), but does not indicate that real monopoles exist.

I found a blog that was saying that they weren't really monopoles either. They also linked to this:

http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2009/090904.html

I noticed this:

The monopoles predicted to occur in spin ice are not elementary particles like protons or electrons but are disturbances of the arrangement of spins – similar to ripples on the surface of a pond.

That seems to reflect what you're saying, right? Also note what the scientist says:

‘We can’t see the monopoles directly but what we can detect is their magnetic influence on their surroundings,’ said Professor Andrew Boothroyd of Oxford University’s Department of Physics, an author of the Science paper. ‘It’s rather like the motion of a crowd as someone pushes their way through.’

So the person who wrote the paper seems to be convinced that they are detecting magnetic monopoles.