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Powdered Toast Man please
09-23-2009, 07:34 PM
lets say hypothetically, you've kidnapped the daughter of a rich person and you demand a ransom for her safe return.

obviously you wouldnt want cops involved and you tell the girls father that, but the cops get involved anyway weather you know or not.

how do you collect the ransom money without being apprehended?

how do you make your plan fool-proof?

nm43388
09-23-2009, 07:51 PM
Have them drop it somewhere you have control of, for example if you leave near the Mexico Border than them go across and drop it off there within a certain amount of time. Also you could change the drop spot last minute to throw off the Pigs.

theinvader
09-23-2009, 07:56 PM
Not going to fucking work. Ever. Never evar.

Cops will rape you while you are collecting it.
They will hide in the suitcase, for they has mad skillz:rolleyes:

vnorberto
09-23-2009, 07:57 PM
op is starjones, the kid nobody liked when he showed up at totse.

ArmsMerchant
09-23-2009, 07:58 PM
Just have them mail you a personal check.

That should work out well.

theinvader
09-23-2009, 08:04 PM
you've

I lol'd pretty damn good after reading your sig.

theinvader
09-23-2009, 08:05 PM
Just have them mail you a personal check.

That should work out well.

Remember that dumbass guy on TSG who withdrawled $3,600,000,000 from his GF's mom's account with a stolen check? He wrote "rent" in the memo line. I lol'ed so fucking hard at that when the fag said What are you renting; the earth?

nm43388
09-23-2009, 08:10 PM
Can we stay on topic please?

Firemind
09-23-2009, 08:25 PM
lets say hypothetically, you've kidnapped the daughter of a rich person and you demand a ransom for her safe return.

obviously you wouldnt want cops involved and you tell the girls father that, but the cops get involved anyway weather you know or not.

how do you collect the ransom money without being apprehended?

how do you make your plan fool-proof?

No plan is fool proof, btw.
But one possibility is to hunt down the "man of the house" kidnap the daughter.(Don't touch her.Seriously.)
Then stalk the "man" and find out when he goes to his bank. Call him when he is there. And tell him to forward "desired funds" to an account you have prepared for this. Tell him if he doesn't his daughter will be eviscerated, but make sure he stays calm. Let him know you have her.(let her talk/whisper)
Tell him you are watching him.(hire some goon to watch the man)
I don't want to give you all the details. Not here...
PM me if you or any one else wants them.

Djaqaver
09-23-2009, 10:50 PM
Masterminds don't ask other criminals how to do something.


You need to be a mastermind to pull this shit off. You are not.

ZX9R
09-24-2009, 12:16 AM
Why deal with physical money?


Have the funds electronically transferred to multiple overseas accounts.

DrGoogfan
09-24-2009, 12:18 AM
op is starjones, the kid nobody liked when he showed up at totse.

o yeah... he was a major faggot

Bender
09-24-2009, 12:22 AM
Have it dropped off in the middle of a field. Were you have a 30 mile sight radius per say. That way you could tell if there alone or not. Idk I'm not feeling very creative today.

Firemind
09-24-2009, 12:25 AM
Why deal with physical money?


Have the funds electronically transferred to multiple overseas accounts.

That is what I just posted. You could have quoted you know.

Damn, I don't even know why we post to this shit. Because the dude will never take our advice.:thumbsdown:

Syphilis
09-24-2009, 03:29 AM
Masterminds don't ask other criminals how to do something.

You need to be a mastermind to pull this shit off. You are not.
Everybody has to start somewhere.

purewhitepanda
09-24-2009, 03:37 AM
Robbing a bank would be much safer then kidnapping.
Police usually get involved with kidnapping's and you could get a very very long prison sentence if caught which is more than bank robbery.

Plus with bank robbery you cut out the person your holding for ransom which most likely your not getting paid from and you just get the money which if caught and you didn't use any gun to shoot anyone in the bank is a way lesser prison sentence then kidnapping.

Guywhorocksyou
09-24-2009, 03:47 AM
move fast so the cops don't have time to get organized, same day as the kidnapping contact the father with your demands. Make the drop be something of value he owns (stake out the place prior to kidnapping to determine said item) or if you know he has money in a safe ask for that. Don't go to overboard with the ransom or he'll stall you. keep it around 100,000-1,000,000 don't throw out like 4,444,455,333 or some bullshit number like that. When receiving the money do in a place with good cover and have a few ex-army buddies on stand-by with weapons in case it gets difficult.

after this lay low in mexico for a few months.

Syphilis
09-24-2009, 03:59 AM
Anyway, wire transfer to a foreign country, preferably a country that hates your own, so the foreign law enforcement won't be compelled to assist your own law enforcement if they happen to ask for assistance.

Firemind
09-24-2009, 04:08 AM
move fast so the cops don't have time to get organized, same day as the kidnapping contact the father with your demands. Make the drop be something of value he owns (stake out the place prior to kidnapping to determine said item) or if you know he has money in a safe ask for that. Don't go to overboard with the ransom or he'll stall you. keep it around 100,000-1,000,000 don't throw out like 4,444,455,333 or some bullshit number like that. When receiving the money do in a place with good cover and have a few ex-army buddies on stand-by with weapons in case it gets difficult.

after this lay low in mexico for a few months.

I kind of said that too. :facepalm: I should have just posted the whole thing.

ZX9R
09-24-2009, 06:08 AM
That is what I just posted. You could have quoted you know.

Damn, I don't even know why we post to this shit. Because the dude will never take our advice.:thumbsdown:

Sorry for I was told to ignore your posts.

ThaRevenant
09-24-2009, 08:43 AM
lets say hypothetically, you've kidnapped the daughter of a rich person and you demand a ransom for her safe return.

obviously you wouldnt want cops involved and you tell the girls father that, but the cops get involved anyway weather you know or not.

how do you collect the ransom money without being apprehended?

how do you make your plan fool-proof?

Offshore bank account, prepaid visa (nonamerican), paypal... If it's intangible and can't be tracked because the FBI or local police don't have jurisdiction over at whatever country, do that. It's near impossible to collect a ransom physically IF the guy you're demanding it from is going to contact the authorities. Probably if you ask for $1 million dollars but the guy only has $50,000 available and you want the money within 3 days, he probably will contact the cops. Ask for $5,000 and show proof you have his daughter and he can pay it maybe without calling the cops.

Spying on your target beforehand to know his personality and psychology and from that create the scenario of his actions would be best if you won't settle for money in the form of data.

Or maybe better yet, hire a leet hacker to help you out and demand that the rich man gives complete access of his computer to you within 10 minutes or you 'kill' his daughter and let him hear her scream or whatever. I don't really know where to go from there. You could also tell him to go outside and kidnap him (voluntarily) and then make him give you ALL his bank info.

All-in-all, you'd need a long time planning and an ideal target to pull this off smoothly but even then it could blow up in your face. Kidnap + ransom isn't really good to do unless you're in Mexico or S.A. and have some cops on your side. (NOTE: Am assuming you're in USA or at least the UK)

EDIT: Noticed a lot of what I said was already said but there was too much bullshit in between so I posted it anyways.

SLIM
09-24-2009, 12:11 PM
Check the money laundering thread and my posts. Before you launder it through those offshore accounts have it sent to an account set up by you with someone's details which you've stolen; let them catch some of the blame, if not all of it. Maybe even get HIM accused of money laundering, haha, make sure it's a gremlin as well.

I've told people how to set up an account in someone's stolen details before in a post on here, if yu can find it; I think I made it on my old account. If you can't find it then PM me and I'll tell you how.

Accepting the payment in person or a drop has NEVER been a good idea and if you look at the history, the majority of ransom transactions done in such a way never goes down well.