Just issued a firearms licence

[OneSadisticFucker]

I was just issued a firearms licence and am waiting for it to come in the mail, I will only be able to get non restricted firearms.

Does anyone know if the Mossberg 100 atr night train is any good? I want distance & accuracy, and I'm really not worried about weight.

[reggie_love]

For the money it seems pretty good, but bear in mind that it is probably one of the least expensive rifles out there. It's not gonna be sub-MOA or anything, but for ~300-500 dollars you can't complain. It'd be pretty decent for hunting, I'd imagine.

If really you want something a little higher-end and more accurate in the same caliber, you should look into the Savage 10FP series. It's moderately more expensive, but it's basically the next level up in that same class of rifle.

Really it all just comes down to what you want to do with it and your personal preference.

[blue_monday]

I'll have to go for the savage too. I've picked up a few mossbergs and didn't like them, never shot one though. Look into stevens too, i think it's savages cheaper line.

[OneSadisticFucker]

If really you want something a little higher-end and more accurate in the same caliber, you should look into the Savage 10FP series. It's moderately more expensive, but it's basically the next level up in that same class of rifle.

Thanks for the tip, I found one that is just perfect, everything I'm going to need. It is the SAVAGE 10FP LE2
http://www.savagearms.com/10fple2.htm

The problem is, I can't find a Canadian price for it, or even where to buy it.

[Mephistos Minion]

Print out the page, take it to a gunstore, and ask if they can get it in for you, while you are there get quotes on scope rings and a scope that will be suited for it, as well as a quote for having it all installed for you.

Do this at every gun store you can drive to within a day or two (several per day, not a full day of driving).

Select the cheapest one overall or the one with the best product at the lowest cost, (I generall buy quality, buy once) go from there.

NOTE: If you are confident doing your own optic mounting go for it, I am making the assumption that as you only just got your ticket, you may not be totally confident with gunsmithing operations as yet.

Also work out what game you are going to shoot with it, and choose the round you will use against it, look at ammo costs at each of the gun stores for the particular rounds (you may have to get it from a seperate store to the one you end up getting the rifle from) and buy at least 100 rounds of it(or whenever the bulk for less option kicks in). You will go through a fair few (depending on how well the scope is mounted, and whether it is optically zeroed) sighting it in, as well as getting used to the rifle over all, before taking game.

To reduce ammo expenditure during zeoring, boresight your rifle. Dont worry about a laser. Make a rest from sandbags so the rifle is stable, remove the bolt, and look through the bore at a square target. Get the top right corner of the target (the edge of paper not bull) into the centre of the bore, then check where the scope is aiming, adjust scope until the crosshairs are on the corer you can see in the bore. Now it is boresighted (amazingly reliable with my .mil issued weapon) you should be able to get a perfect zero in 10 rounds or less.

If you are going to change ammo for targets (often I run handloaded .308 through my remmy 700 for game and bulk military FMJ for targets) mark your scope setting for game ammo with pencil on the turrets, so you can get roughly (if not exactly) back to it after a day of plinking on the range.

Got a bit off topic there but hey, I only owned firearms as of a year or so ago (licenced to me, been shooting .mil and civi for a long time) so I figured I'd pass on some hot tips for home leavers.

-MM

[OneSadisticFucker]

Great stuff, thanks. I think I'll get a gunsmith to do the mounting and sighting. Do you have any suggestions on optics?

[enkrypt0r]

I was just issued a firearms licence

Looking at your name and reading this post concerns me.

[Mephistos Minion]

Scopes is a touchy subject with a lot of people. There are the tried and true high end ones such as Leopuld, Zeiss, Doctor etc, which give excelent performance, but with a very high price range.

The more moderate scopes such as Picar and Bushnell still offer decent performance. I have used my brother's Rem 700 CDL in .243 with a Picar 3-9 x40 on it with excellent results (24 roos taken through the head/chest between 50 and 250 metres in one day).

It really depends on your budget. You can go for a super expensive mildot one with illimiated reticle for over $1000 or, get something more modest for less than $300.

For a .308 you will want at least a 3-9 magnification (pretty standard), more if you are going to get into longer range, smaller target shooting. Also if you plan to shoot in the summer get a shroud for it to cut down on the glare.

Avoid any unknown brands unless you find good (impartial) reviews on them, and avoid any generic chinese knock offs, as they are generally shithouse.

Also remember, it may look good, with lots of bells and whistles, and you might find it cheap on ebay, but generally if the description is something like;

"MILITARY SCOPE BEST OPTICS, HIGH ZOOM RUGGED BUILT MILITARY STANDARD OMG MILITARY LOOK LOOK MILITARY MILDOT BEST SCOPE FOR MONEY SUPER SNIPER SCOPE" Then keep the fuck away from it.

-MM

EDIT:

[QUOTE=OneSadisticFucker;90846]I was just issued a firearms licence[QUOTE]

Looking at your name and reading this post concerns me.

Attempt at humor or not, my user name suggests that I am a minion of the god of hatred, Mephistopheles, and shit, I have a gun licence and am in the Military. Run for the hills!

Get over user names people, we all know "SexyGirl69" is really a balding 40+ pedo male, and I am not really a demonic minion hell bent on destroying the world.

[Freelance Tax Collector]

Get over user names people, we all know "SexyGirl69" is really a balding 40+ pedo male, and I am not really a demonic minion hell bent on destroying the world.

Which is just what a demonic minion hell bent on destroying the world would say.

Buy the best quality scope you can afford. For magnification, at least with a .308 (IMO any .30 caliber cartridge) any more than 10x won't really be necessary. Field of View is a really important consideration and magnification and field of view are mutually exclusive. Making sure your optics are fully coated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_coating) will probably mean buying a name brand. You get what you pay for.

For long range use you're going to want to make sure that the scope tracks consistently (e.g. placing a shot, then twirling your knobs, returning to zero and putting a shot in the same place) and has plenty of elevation travel (anywhere over 80 MOA should do it) Make sure you put it in well constructed rings and mounts that have the screw threads lock-tited into place.

I'd recommend a fixed power optic over variables. When I mount my scope, I tend to leave it on a single power without changing it. For a general use big game rifle, I'd say no more than 6x. Varmints should rate a 10x or maybe a 16x, and for brush hunting I'd go for a really low power setup, if not just a dot sight or 1x prismatic scope.