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baseman
10-14-2009, 08:57 PM
found this thought it might be of interest to some http://www.nytimes.com/1995/03/11/nyregion/latest-tool-of-shoplifters-metal-in-bags.html

damn beaners

313
10-14-2009, 09:03 PM
damn beaners

lmao that was my 1st thought too

Jesus of Nazareth
10-14-2009, 09:13 PM
Fuck now we all gotta invest in lead magic bags!

313
10-14-2009, 09:32 PM
Fuck now we all gotta invest in lead magic bags!

yay more money i need to acquire!!!
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

mdbm88
10-14-2009, 10:09 PM
This is old news. Lead is old news too.

Starvin
10-14-2009, 10:14 PM
We got warned about all that stuff in the training videos at Izod... o.O; Common knowledge for workers. But the trick is to make it so that it doesn't LOOK like a Booster Bag. ~Le Gasp~

Looks like a normal bag, unless we JUST saw the video, or JUST did our Inventory, we won't be keeping an eye out for shoplifters every day.

Bender
10-14-2009, 10:24 PM
We got warned about all that stuff in the training videos at Izod... o.O; Common knowledge for workers. But the trick is to make it so that it doesn't LOOK like a Booster Bag. ~Le Gasp~

Looks like a normal bag, unless we JUST saw the video, or JUST did our Inventory, we won't be keeping an eye out for shoplifters every day.

This hasn't been said so I'll say it.

TITS OR GTFO :mad:

Starvin
10-14-2009, 10:33 PM
This hasn't been said so I'll say it.

TITS OR GTFO :mad:

This hasn't been said by many women anymore, so I'll say it.

ENGAGEMENT RING OR STFU. :mad:

imawolfrawr
10-14-2009, 10:57 PM
This hasn't been said by many women anymore, so I'll say it.

ENGAGEMENT RING OR STFU. :mad:

GTFO > STFU > huffing raid > engagement ring.

Simple math


Anyways...

What's the best time to hit walmart. I know late at night is retarded seeing as there's not many people but is it better to go morning (people might still be tired and not be paying attention as well), mid day (when all the old people swarm the place) or late day when people get off work and go shopping.

Starvin
10-14-2009, 11:04 PM
Meh, don't really care. Not seeing my tits, but again, I don't care. XD Most forums say Tits or Stfu/Gtfo to me when I post.

I'd have sold off the ring, anyway.. ;]

TexasLifter
10-14-2009, 11:10 PM
GTFO > STFU > huffing raid > engagement ring.

Simple math


Anyways...

What's the best time to hit walmart. I know late at night is retarded seeing as there's not many people but is it better to go morning (people might still be tired and not be paying attention as well), mid day (when all the old people swarm the place) or late day when people get off work and go shopping.
i usually hit around 10:30 am then again around 2:00 pm or depending on what i'm after...managers and the likes shift change at different times than regular employees so i kinda wait till a new manager is on duty

Bender
10-15-2009, 12:38 AM
Anyone got experience lifting from TJ max? I'm thinking of lifting from there.

shopliftTHIS
10-15-2009, 12:45 AM
Where I used to work employees were never informed of magic bags, barcoding, or any other kind of shoplifting method. When they hired new cashiers all they were told to do was ring people out quickly and sell impulse items at the register. I can guarantee if someone slapped a $50 barcode on a $400 printer, 75% of the cashiers would never even have noticed.

Starvin
10-15-2009, 01:35 AM
Question; Returns to Wal-Mart without receipts.. Do they give you Store Credit, or Cash?

Bender
10-15-2009, 01:43 AM
Question; Returns to Wal-Mart without receipts.. Do they give you Store Credit, or Cash?

I believe you get nothing. Also someone answer my question please. ^

imawolfrawr
10-15-2009, 01:52 AM
Every store is different so we really can't help. I've been to walmarts that were basically putting shit in my pockets and I've been in walmarts where it's like breaking outta prison. Just go there fist and scope it out. In another thread someone said TJ Maxx is easy as hell but that's probably their store. It depends on the LP/AP, how high/low the crime in the area is, how much the place gets shit lifted from.


My turn again. With the spider alarm things are the items usually tagged with an RFID as well.

Also while in best buy yesterday I came out and there was something stuck in my door. I was like WTF is this a ticket? I open it up and it's some church propaganda shit about how RFID's are gonna be used by the devil to enslave us all. I looked around while LOL'ing (I was seriously laughing loud as fuck)

Starvin
10-15-2009, 01:56 AM
I see.. Just in case, I'll check more places. Thanks.

imawolfrawr
10-15-2009, 02:02 AM
I see.. Just in case, I'll check more places. Thanks.

Yeah it would be nice if every place was the same but if your unsure about the place it would be good to go scope it out one day to look for cameras and blindspots. See what employee/customer ratio is. Then hit it a couple days later.

313
10-15-2009, 02:31 AM
Anyone got experience lifting from TJ max? I'm thinking of lifting from there.

omfg its THE EASIEST PLACE EVER:thumbsup:

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/534/Advice-Dog-DO-IT-FAGGOT-.jpg

Starvin
10-15-2009, 02:34 AM
I don't think there are any TJ Max's by me. XD But, good news. Found this on the Wal-mart site.

Q: Do you accept RETURNS without a receipt?

A: Wal-Mart, for several years, has accepted returns without a receipt, even though many of our competitors require receipts for all returns. Wal-Mart gives customers the option of a cash refund (if the purchase was under $25), a shopping card for the amount of the purchase (if it was over $25), a credit to the customer's credit card or an even exchange for the product. Also, as applicable, we follow any manufacturer’s warranties.

If they try to say no, I can quote that, and threaten to tell all of their bosses. :3 And higher and higher. And if they keep saying no.. FALSE ADVERTISING!~ ;D

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 04:08 AM
Question; Returns to Wal-Mart without receipts.. Do they give you Store Credit, or Cash?

if your a smooth talker you get gift card if not they send you away...they hardly ever give credit for items over 50 anymore...good thing to know about this is, if they give you a gift card buy some stuff 1 item at a time that is 5.00 or less with tax and return it they will give u cash back...or buy something that is like 150.00 use gift card plus cash. i.e item is 150.00 you have 50 on gift card buy it wait a day or 2 and return 9/10 they give u the full amount in cash but not always.

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 04:10 AM
Every store is different so we really can't help. I've been to walmarts that were basically putting shit in my pockets and I've been in walmarts where it's like breaking outta prison. Just go there fist and scope it out. In another thread someone said TJ Maxx is easy as hell but that's probably their store. It depends on the LP/AP, how high/low the crime in the area is, how much the place gets shit lifted from.


My turn again. With the spider alarm things are the items usually tagged with an RFID as well.

Also while in best buy yesterday I came out and there was something stuck in my door. I was like WTF is this a ticket? I open it up and it's some church propaganda shit about how RFID's are gonna be used by the devil to enslave us all. I looked around while LOL'ing (I was seriously laughing loud as fuck)

in my experiences rarely do they have both, ones i've seen with both are routers,video cards and stuff like that, big items like Guitar Hero and such no

StickyFingers
10-15-2009, 04:11 AM
i hope you die.

besides. the store cant do anything because they didnt catch me on the spot.

i could just as easily delete those auctions. plus if you blow me in, the investigators will read this thread here on zoklet, and you blow in everyone. if you wanna live you dont wanna piss of 100 zoklets.

Yawn. You're an idiot and being owned right now. "Investigators" probably read this forum all the time, it's indexed pretty well by Google.

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 04:25 AM
general rule, if it has a spider wrap and it isnt a blister pack, theres no other rfid

the walmarts around here are crazy i can go in one store they have Ext HD's spider wrapped go to another and they don't same with DVD drives video cards, one store hardly has there Xbox and ps3 games locked up except for brand new releases so i guess it just varies from store to store or general location of the store, i got a 32 inch lcd the other day because they didnt have them spider'ed but at same store they have cheesy ass cordless telephones spider wrapped and tied off to shelf, still haven't figured out some of there logic in this.

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 04:29 AM
well, the lower the area's crime rate, the less the store cares.

yeah i can understand that but, i've seen some of the dumbest shit locked up like a casino vault while 200 or 300 stuff is setting out easy to grab.

imawolfrawr
10-15-2009, 04:30 AM
general rule, if it has a spider wrap and it isnt a blister pack, theres no other rfid

blister pack = raised barcode right?

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 04:34 AM
this kind of package

http://www.rahindeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/blister-pack.jpg

those look like those cheap ass kitchen scissors harbor freight sells lol i've broken like 10 pairs of those damn chinese made mofo's

imawolfrawr
10-15-2009, 04:44 AM
those look like those cheap ass kitchen scissors harbor freight sells lol i've broken like 10 pairs of those damn chinese made mofo's

Yep junk drawer scissors, the ones you cut popcicles with that have the sticky residue on them from the sugar of said popcicles

shakes11
10-15-2009, 05:49 AM
Looking to pull a pair of tru religion from Nordstrom seems like the fitting room is stocked with employees anyone have a sugestion

Starvin
10-15-2009, 06:07 AM
I don't know, but WalMart was STUFFED with workers today. I was able to get a $10, but only because I left the fitting room, and came back with more clothes, to confuse them if they check again. Nobody checked anything, even with all of the workers. I even chatted to a few of them, and bought some instant noodles [[Not ramen]].

Note; Hannah Montana shit clothes as Wal-mart are $10. Nothing tagged as far as I could tell, very thin clothing, blah blah. Not even a simple tag. Since I was just testing today, I got 1 shirt. Was a problem, since one of my old friends now works there, and kept trying to talk to me, after.

If you are a girl, you could just wear a low-cut shirt, and smile a lot. Nobody looked there I had the shirt. :] Ah, the perks of being female.

shakes11
10-15-2009, 06:14 AM
Im talking a 200+ pair of jeans not some shitty 10 shirt come on

Starvin
10-15-2009, 06:27 AM
Actually, I'm new. D: Not to JUST here, to lifting. I was sharing with the people who were here before how my first ACTUAL lift went, besides a packet of skittles.

I'm working my way up. Wait for the more experienced users.

shakes11
10-15-2009, 06:36 AM
I'll show you a lift tommorow I will go out and pull at least a 400 to 600 day

Starvin
10-15-2009, 06:50 AM
At this point, I really only wanted food.. .-.; Hence the name Starvin.. And I asked for tips specifically about food earlier.. x]

Just gonna return shit stuff for cash/credit for food. D;

EDIT; Anyway, I'm going to sleep. Gonna dream of Burgers. <3

Equinox
10-15-2009, 06:59 AM
Man, you guys have it hard.. Here in NZ, well, more specifically the town I live in, there's almost nothing to avoid. The only store like Walmart is 'The Warehouse' - a chain all over New Zealand. The ones in the major cities have a lot more "advanced" loss prevention methods, but for the one I lift from, it's easy. Nobody watches the dressing rooms. There's one LP guy on at all times, never any more. Cameras only watch the entrance, electronics, bathroom door and the changing rooms. But the gardening section has plastic sheets right up the walls, so you can't pass things over/under/through it.

shakes11
10-15-2009, 07:06 AM
Nice still doesnt solve my problem

plagiarist
10-15-2009, 11:07 AM
This feed sucks looking for good tips and I get some idot that lifts from walmart fuck you all
i know can somebody please tell me the easiest way to get those fucking metal tag things off clothes w/o damaging them, is it worth investing in one of those round magnet things? They look damn heavy.

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 01:10 PM
i know can somebody please tell me the easiest way to get those fucking metal tag things off clothes w/o damaging them, is it worth investing in one of those round magnet things? They look damn heavy.

try reading the entire thread..there is about a dozen or more explanations on how to remove them;)

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 05:46 PM
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=15389

Check this shit out man i'd love to be those guys lol awesome!:D

How to clean out a apple store in 31 seconds flat!

mdbm88
10-15-2009, 06:17 PM
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=15389

Check this shit out man i'd love to be those guys lol awesome!:D

How to clean out a apple store in 31 seconds flat!

That is a fantastic smash and grab by the motha fuckin book!

mdbm88
10-15-2009, 06:20 PM
No chase policy in DALLAS!!! This is where I live.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2202492231&topic=1544

FYI: That is current policy

Here is shoplifting punishment in texas

http://www.mytexasdefenselawyer.com/texas-criminal-laws-penalties/theft/

testerman
10-15-2009, 07:47 PM
the walmarts around here are crazy i can go in one store they have Ext HD's spider wrapped go to another and they don't same with DVD drives video cards, one store hardly has there Xbox and ps3 games locked up except for brand new releases so i guess it just varies from store to store or general location of the store, i got a 32 inch lcd the other day because they didnt have them spider'ed but at same store they have cheesy ass cordless telephones spider wrapped and tied off to shelf, still haven't figured out some of there logic in this.


they didnt spider the LCD but they had EAS or RFID on it. how did you get it out the door?

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 09:12 PM
they didnt spider the LCD but they had EAS or RFID on it. how did you get it out the door?

buy 1 and walk 2 out with same receipt at other 2 exit doors in walmart...return the 1 with receipt and get money back if the door alarm goes off who cares you have a receipt

Kazar
10-15-2009, 10:44 PM
Just came back from my local mall. I'm planning to steal clothes at various stores. Here's the breakdown.

Hollister- every thing has some type of tag on it and lots of employees and cameras around the store

Ambercrombie- same as hollister and i don't even like ambercrombie anyway (but everyone does at my school and could make some good money)

American Eagle- About 25% of the clothes had a device on it. Cameras, but not a lot of employees.

Pac-Sun- Same as American Eagle but without cameras. Also, a lot of kids at my school are in to all the skate clothes, so it's a good choice

Aeropostale- Almost no devices on any clothing and very few employees as well as no cameras. Probably going to be the easiest.

Department stores- didn't really look into them as this is my first time lifting clothing, so I'll stick to the more basic shops.

So I'm planning to hit Aeropostale and Pac- Sun tomorrow or next week. Now a question

How do you remove ink tags? All of the devices were either Ink tags or thing that are opened by sensormatic hooks (btw, what are they called?). I know i'll need a sensormatic hook to disable those, but i don't have one right now and most of the clothes had an ink tag or nothing. So is there a way to disable ink tags?

TexasLifter
10-15-2009, 10:52 PM
Just came back from my local mall. I'm planning to steal clothes at various stores. Here's the breakdown.

Hollister- every thing has some type of tag on it and lots of employees and cameras around the store

Ambercrombie- same as hollister and i don't even like ambercrombie anyway (but everyone does at my school and could make some good money)

American Eagle- About 25% of the clothes had a device on it. Cameras, but not a lot of employees.

Pac-Sun- Same as American Eagle but without cameras. Also, a lot of kids at my school are in to all the skate clothes, so it's a good choice

Aeropostale- Almost no devices on any clothing and very few employees as well as no cameras. Probably going to be the easiest.

Department stores- didn't really look into them as this is my first time lifting clothing, so I'll stick to the more basic shops.

So I'm planning to hit Aeropostale and Pac- Sun tomorrow or next week. Now a question

How do you remove ink tags? All of the devices were either Ink tags or thing that are opened by sensormatic hooks (btw, what are they called?). I know i'll need a sensormatic hook to disable those, but i don't have one right now and most of the clothes had an ink tag or nothing. So is there a way to disable ink tags?

ok first thing you do is READ the rest of the thread it is spelled out about 50 times or more on how to remove these things start with that...if you still can't figure it out give up the life and get a job =):thumbsdown:

Kazar
10-15-2009, 11:13 PM
ok first thing you do is READ the rest of the thread it is spelled out about 50 times or more on how to remove these things start with that...if you still can't figure it out give up the life and get a job =):thumbsdown:

Haha okay man, what page is it on? All of the techniques i have seen are used to open spider wraps and other alpha products. Yes i know you could burn the tags off, but that would trigger the smoke alarm and yes, i know i could hold the smoke in the bag, but I'm looking for a simple method. There was also a rubber band method, but everyone has been saying it doesn't work. So, please enlighten me.

SLIM
10-15-2009, 11:55 PM
Haha okay man, what page is it on? All of the techniques i have seen are used to open spider wraps and other alpha products. Yes i know you could burn the tags off, but that would trigger the smoke alarm and yes, i know i could hold the smoke in the bag, but I'm looking for a simple method. There was also a rubber band method, but everyone has been saying it doesn't work. So, please enlighten me.

Buy the tag removers, I posted someinfo a few pages back on some tags, I also later posted an e-book full of security tags and what is used to remove them.

This thread is boring now. Can we please close this and start a different one?

imawolfrawr
10-16-2009, 12:15 AM
If they are ink tags, and there are no EAS towers just steal them and worry about getting the Tags off at home. On youtube it shows you how scrape them on the sidewalk. Or stick them in the freezer for like 3 days and the ink will freeze.

Your mall has cameras in their stores that's lame as fuck the only ones that have cameras in all the malls I have been to are the big ones like JC Penny, Sears, Belks etc not the little counter culture stores.

As far as the pencil tags go are they EAS? Finally got office max and got a ink cartridge so time for me to barcode the shit out everything.

imawolfrawr
10-16-2009, 12:23 AM
[QUOTE=imawolfrawr;1150875]As far as the pencil tags go are they EAS? [\QUOTE]

yes they are.

Shit glad I didn't grab that shit from Pac Sun today. They didn't have a visible EAS tower so I was thinking maybe they are there just to scare people but I didn't wanna risk it cause it's in the middle of the mall so that would be a far run to get to the exit and all the way to my car

Kazar
10-16-2009, 12:35 AM
This website might be of help to you. (http://www.sesamestreet.org/home)

Thank you very much. I have been looking for that info for quite some time.:thumbsup:

TexasLifter
10-16-2009, 01:17 AM
going after a HP laptop tomorrow or maybe 2 depends on how it works out for me i was at wally world today and got a couple blu-ray dvd drives and i saw them on a end cap display spider wrapped but out in the open and i didn't have my S3 key with me this should be fun tomorrow =):thumbsup:

P Z
10-16-2009, 01:26 AM
Hey guys. Im a little new to this whole thing (Ive never really new there was an entire system for this thing with its own acronyms and all). But Ive been feeling that I need to do this and to get some stuff from this store in my mall in NOR CA. The only problem is that I dont know much about their security. So please answer these questions in order to help me out.

1. Wats this ive been hearing about all this EAS stuff? Are they some kind of tracking device on the ink tags? They actually do that now!?

2. Im planning on just walking in and blitzing out. If I did, how far would they be willing to chase me AND how much effort will they put into checking my face on their cameras and following that up? How lond will I have to wait to come back there? AND will they study my face and put it up in a back rom with all the other people who did what I did?

3. The place im hitting up is a big fancy place like JCpenny, Macys, Dillards and the like. How serious do you think they are about preventing that stuff from happening? And wats this about undercover employees?

4. It would be nice you guys could explain or point me to a place were I could go to find out what all of these acronyms mean. That way I could read the rest of this thread with some undestanding.

5. The stuff that im goin for are just a pair of jeans and a sweater(wich with my physique would be considered big). Do you think that its possible or safe goin with a discreet methond instead.

6. What day and time should I do it. My mall is a little dead in the mornings right when it opens. Is it good to go when the place is fresh and waking up, emptying out and closing up, or just at its normal time?

7. Im a dude. So no big purses for me.

Thanks to anyone who answers this stuff. I just wanted to ask these questions while read the rest of this thread.

mdbm88
10-16-2009, 01:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aar_mDaHOV8

You could do shit if you were lp there is so much going on.

Here I act like a fry employee to get really good insight on how they work.

http://frysforum.com/discussion/1666/frys-lp/#Item_1

imawolfrawr
10-16-2009, 04:20 AM
if your just going for jeans and a shirt don't just grab them and run out that's fucking retarded. Do like Anonymous said and just hit the dressing room with alot of clothing. It worked for me two days ago.

If your just gonna go in grab something and run like a motherfucker make it something worthwhile like an expensive electronic that you can make bank off of.

Bender
10-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Yeah, be careful of hidden tags on the jeans. Most of the Affliction and other shirts don't have tags. Look for blindspots and don't look suspicious. Before leaving the store with loot. Make a small purchase so you don't look too odd. At least this is what I do anyhow.

imawolfrawr
10-16-2009, 04:22 PM
Yeah, be careful of hidden tags on the jeans. Most of the Affliction and other shirts don't have tags. Look for blindspots and don't look suspicious. Before leaving the store with loot. Make a small purchase so you don't look too odd. At least this is what I do anyhow.

This depends on your age. If you kinda young and it's at the mall kids usually go there to hang out and never buy stuff. As far as like a 20 year old taking clothing into the dressing room then leaving yeah that looks suspicious so you better have a fast tongue or fast feet.

Bender
10-16-2009, 04:26 PM
This depends on your age. If you kinda young and it's at the mall kids usually go there to hang out and never buy stuff. As far as like a 20 year old taking clothing into the dressing room then leaving yeah that looks suspicious so you better have a fast tongue or fast feet.

Good point. As previously stated, if you have a parent there they sometimes will divert there attention to unchaperoned kids. Also, if you look clean, and your hair isn't hanging in your face, they could pass you by. Alot of people are subconsciously judgmental, knowing that will work in a shoplifters favor.

imawolfrawr
10-16-2009, 04:34 PM
Good point. As previously stated, if you have a parent there they sometimes will divert there attention to unchaperoned kids. Also, if you look clean, and your hair isn't hanging in your face, they could pass you by. Alot of people are subconsciously judgmental, knowing that will work in a shoplifters favor.

To add:

for the younger people, if your with your parents and they are buying stuff that is the best time to do it cause when you walk through the EAS tower and it goes off the people at the door should assume that it's something in the bags your parent's are carrying/pushing in a cart and when your mom/dad shows a receipt and they look it over they will just assume something was looked over and not de activated. SUCCESS!

imawolfrawr
10-16-2009, 11:06 PM
or you could disable th eas. :facepalm:

It was for the people that are too scared to open up the package and disable it.

I just found out the two wal marts near me suck compared to my old one back in ohio. Everything is locked behind (insert items that needs alpha key to open) Guess I'm gonna have to make one before black friday

313
10-16-2009, 11:07 PM
It was for the people that are too scared to open up the package and disable it.

I just found out the two wal marts near me suck compared to my old one back in ohio. Everything is locked behind (insert items that needs alpha key to open) Guess I'm gonna have to make one before black friday

yep i need to get alotta shit before blackfriday...so can someone post the link to the website for the best magnets?
thaanks

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 12:01 AM
yep i need to get alotta shit before blackfriday...so can someone post the link to the website for the best magnets?
thaanks
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BX084-N52&cat=168

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 01:56 AM
idk how to help you.

The disguise gave me an idea though....my mom works at wal mart so I could take her stupid little vest and just walk in and act like an employee and hit the stockroom....

mdbm88
10-17-2009, 02:27 AM
So the besy buy by my house decided to take all there ipods out and put them in alpha s3 cases to i can get to them BIG MISTAKE. So now I will have to punish them. I think they did this for black friday to so people could just pick them up and go but them... SO STUPID LOL.

TexasLifter
10-17-2009, 02:36 AM
ok i'm pissed lol got to wally world today they had 2 lap tops left on the end cap so get the first one and pay for it take it to my car go back for second one which i had already removed the spider to have it read i get back to electronics and some chick is buying it !!! grrrrrrrrrr so now i have to return the other one get my money back and wait for more laptops if they ever do it that way again =( first time i've ever seen laptops out like that too damn i wish i would of had my S3 last night =( oh well i still got 4 new ps3 games and 2 blu-ray dvd drives. tomorrow going after a Dell amd quad core, desktop

Kazar
10-17-2009, 03:26 AM
the walmart near me sucks. for videogames they dont use alpha keepers and everything is behind glass. im banned from bestbuy wich uses alpha keepers on games...

the fye near me knows who i am.

so, i guess im gonna have to buy COD6 and assasin's creed 2...

unless anyones knows how do disguises... HALP!

i need to go into fye undetected. on black friday of course, cuz my fye only has maximum 5 customers inside at a time...

HALP

Did you really mess up so bad that they have your face down? Are you banned or just under suspicion?

And wow 5 customers, do you live in a super rural place? My fye is pretty popular at my mall.

Kazar
10-17-2009, 03:52 AM
How long ago was this? Have you changed in any way?

1. If you're old enough, grow facial hair, and lot's of it.
2. Where a bandanna. Less suspicious then a hat but doesn't cover your face. Use it to cover you hair if you are not going to cut it or dye it.
3. Do something with your hair. If you want to go extreme, cut and dye it, but otherwise, just style it differently or wear a bandanna.
4. Dress in a different style. If you normally wear skater clothes, wear some sports jerseys etc.

5. (Very good idea). Halloween is coming soon. I don't know if you're mall does this, but at my mall, everyone dresses up and goes shopping and stores give out candy. So just dress up with a wig and a bunch of make up and like a cap or something and be dracula (idk, be orginal). On the other hand, dont be to original that you are very noticeable. Also, no masks. Thats just stpuid.

So yeah, i just made these up. 5 will work very nice at my mall, but i dont know if other malls do this (3 other malls in my area do this though).

Kazar
10-17-2009, 03:59 AM
Well not to be offensive, but how old are you? Could you possibly pretend to be a biker? Thats pretty suspicious too, but yeah I'm not thinking totally straight right now. But for me the Halloween thing is gonna be tight. Like an early black friday for me :D

.it
10-17-2009, 04:00 AM
So the besy buy by my house decided to take all there ipods out and put them in alpha s3 cases to i can get to them BIG MISTAKE. So now I will have to punish them. I think they did this for black friday to so people could just pick them up and go but them... SO STUPID LOL.

get me a touch and sell it to me for cash. at a low zoklet price :) :)

Kazar
10-17-2009, 04:06 AM
Just curious, when did you start and how fast did you move up to electronics? Whats a good store i could start with and what's an easy steal? Just pulled my 1st heist from a mall today. Got 2 necklaces from areopostle, sweat shirt from american eagle, and a beanie from pac sun. I could of had a pair of jeans at pac sun, as there was like only one dumbass employee but pac sun jeans are too skinny for me and it was getting late. But I'm planning to go back on tuesday get some different jeans. People at my mall are dumb and lazy; some clothes are rigged, but some of the same kind and laying right next to the others are not.

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 04:28 AM
Same here my first heist was a few dvds, stripped the eas and pants them. I looked like a terrorist of sorts with my pants lined with dvd cases and it was so hard to walk normal I'm surprised I pulled it off.

My best/biggest one was a dvd-rw drive for my computer. That was back when I did it all the time. I'm getting back into it now and it's rather hard since everything is in an alpha case or behind glass.

mdbm88
10-17-2009, 04:33 AM
I wish there was a way to see which stores have alpha s3 security without driving out there.

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 04:34 AM
take th dvds out of the cases fucktard. :facepalm:

better yet, download them. double:facepalm:

this was my first time stealing which was 7 years ago. The area I lived didn't support high speed internet and I didn't know how to crack wireless at the time so I couldn't download them. I'd rather steal them with the case just a pet peeve of mine. I hate having cds/dvds/games without cases idk why it just bugs the fuck outta me.

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 04:44 AM
I wish there was a way to see which stores have alpha s3 security without driving out there.

Any store that's worth stealing from. Problem solved

EDIT: If spider wraps aren't flashing does that mean they won't set off an alarm?

mdbm88
10-17-2009, 04:58 AM
http://www.alphaworld.com/alpha-security-products-customers.asp

i mean in my area. I think i''ll just call and ask a couple stores...? That might give it away though idk I just hate driving then getting there and see they dont keep the good shit in the cases.

Kayla
10-17-2009, 05:11 AM
Here's my tip(Do this at a big store & in a bathroom) I will take no legal responsibility for anybodies actions For the who have never seen or used pads... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Sanitary_towel.jpg The left pad is wingless & the one on the right has wings. Things you will need Maxi pads rubbing alcohol,scissors & a cigarette lighter . Here's what you need to know about all pads, there sticky on the bottom & if you take the pad off the paper it will stick. Pads come in a little cloth like bag. Do this at home
1.take the clothpaper that's holding the pad off the pad & lay it flat on the floor 2. open the rubbing alcohol & dip the paint brush in it don't compleatly drench the pad in rubbing alcohol & a paintbrush (generic or namebrand doesn't matter)
3.Don't remove the pad from it sticky bottom
4.cut the wings off the pad with scissors
5.Wait till it drys,fold it & put it in your bag(Don't forgot your lighter)
6.Go to a store like Best buy & head straight for the bathroom(Try not to look suspious)
7.walk into a stall & close the door
8.Take the sticky paper off from the bottom of the pad & stick it to a wall
9.set the pad on fire & walk out the bathroom
10.walk or jog around the store & collect the items you want, & when somebody smells smoke people will start to panic & run out the door. Run out of the door with the rest of the people & straight to your car.
11.I forgot this make sure nobody else is in the bathromm with you.

mdbm88
10-17-2009, 06:06 AM
Here's my tip(Do this at a big store & in a bathroom) I will take no legal responsibility for anybodies actions For the who have never seen or used pads... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Sanitary_towel.jpg The left pad is wingless & the one on the right has wings. Things you will need Maxi pads rubbing alcohol,scissors & a cigarette lighter . Here's what you need to know about all pads, there sticky on the bottom & if you take the pad off the paper it will stick. Pads come in a little cloth like bag. Do this at home
1.take the clothpaper that's holding the pad off the pad & lay it flat on the floor 2. open the rubbing alcohol & dip the paint brush in it don't compleatly drench the pad in rubbing alcohol & a paintbrush (generic or namebrand doesn't matter)
3.Don't remove the pad from it sticky bottom
4.cut the wings off the pad with scissors
5.Wait till it drys,fold it & put it in your bag(Don't forgot your lighter)
6.Go to a store like Best buy & head straight for the bathroom(Try not to look suspious)
7.walk into a stall & close the door
8.Take the sticky paper off from the bottom of the pad & stick it to a wall
9.set the pad on fire & walk out the bathroom
10.walk or jog around the store & collect the items you want, & when somebody smells smoke people will start to panic & run out the door. Run out of the door with the rest of the people & straight to your car.
11.I forgot this make sure nobody else is in the bathromm with you.

That might actually work unless someone just sees it a pad on fire and puts it out. Then your fucked. So I would use more than 1 and if you get caught you ar facing a ton of charges

mdbm88
10-17-2009, 06:41 AM
oh shit look what i found
http://www.network54.com/Forum/4440/message/999038768/Fry%27s+Phone+Extensions

a list of the fry's extensions. that means i can call and act like im from another store or even find out lunch breaks all that good shit.

I dont know about yall but i plan my shit out to the extreme im not trying to get caught but i am trying for a big score.

P Z
10-17-2009, 07:14 AM
Alright Ive got some good and bad news on what happened today.

SWIM decided to go with a friend and getsome stuff in the Macy's In our their town. And things went terrible.

Now SWIM has not been in this place for about a while now. So he immediately noticed that they changed the place. ALL of the desirable clothes were on the second floor. Accesible ONLY by way of escalator. This was what gave him a bad feeling. So after being up stairs for a while chekin stuff out SWIM told his friend that they should chek out the other stores in the mall before doing anything there. So they left through the mall exit. Thats when he noticed that they had some wierd ass EAS gates.

These were not the typical ones that look like fences with crappy red classes in the middle. It was some kind of freaky shit that was hanging from the roof over the exit like a set of lights. BARELY NOTICABLE. After we got back SWIM said screw it! This place is set up perfectly. But his friend had gotten some stuff from another store ealier that week and his ass was all gung ho about doing it. So SWIM said that he would just try stuff on and talk to this girl who he knew that was working there while his friend did his job.

So on the way up the escalators SWIM noticed that they had these weird ass looking cameras that were pointed at the high end of the escalators. These cameras. They were shaped just like any ordinary ones, but instead of having a lens they had some square shaped white pice of thin plastic were it should have been. After reading up on these forums SWIM had some idea of what they were. They were made to be like EAS fences that went off when people tried to leave with stuff on the escalators. SWIM told this to his gung ho friend but him being the dumbass that he was he didn't listen and went on with it.

So SWIM avoided his gung ho friend and spit some clean ass game at the girl who worked there that he knew. All the while he did this while cheking clothes and noticed that he was being followed by the same shoppers every time. Can anyone answer why an old man in slacks and a polo shirt would be looking at skate gear? So then SWIM went to the car to wait for his friend but the car was locked so he just waited next to the SEARS were it was parked... 30 mins went by... then 45.

SWIm new his friend was busted. But he needed to chek cuz his ipod and phone were in his frends car and went back to the store to talk to the girl about what happend. She was alone and the place was dead so she told him that she saw a buch of security follow the gung ho friend down the escalators and hadnt seen him since. She asked if he took anything, called their back rooms to see if gung ho was back there, and he was. Then she hung up and said that SWIM should leave right away.



You dont have to tell SWIM twice...


Later that day SWIMs friend came back to his house and told him that they let him off with a slap on the wrist. They took his picture and said to never come back for 3 years.



But he also said that they were more organized that we both thought. The EAS cameras alerted the LP but did not make any noises. He said he was gonna run but they met him at the bottom of the escalator and by the time he was at the bottom he was surrounded and the exits had LP waiting.

They set his ass up and were sneaky about it.


SWIM is NEVER setting foot back in Macys again. Dillards was always the better choice.

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 07:35 AM
SWIM needs to stop using SWIM because it's fucking stupid. But yeah that does suck man.

As for the setting afire shit. That's serious business cause if you get caught that's arson, inducing panic, and if they wanted to they could slap with you some crazy shit like attempted murder on all the people in the store. So I wouldn't do that shit at all.

313
10-17-2009, 11:32 AM
ok how do i steal more than one item at once?
eg-earbuds
like i dont have a magic bag and stuff....so...any other way?

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 02:41 PM
ok how do i steal more than one item at once?
eg-earbuds
like i dont have a magic bag and stuff....so...any other way?

pockets? box stuffing? box stuffing mixed with barcoding.

313
10-17-2009, 03:30 PM
pockets? box stuffing? box stuffing mixed with barcoding.

box stuffing mixed w/ barcdoing...hmm..
so get a big vacuumm and shove like 20 pairs of earbuds in it? and put a cheap vacuumm price tag on it?

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 03:33 PM
box stuffing mixed w/ barcdoing...hmm..
so get a big vacuumm and shove like 20 pairs of earbuds in it? and put a cheap vacuumm price tag on it?

Exactly! Then return the vacuum after you take the cheap barcode off and get giftcard/cash for the vacuum.

313
10-17-2009, 03:39 PM
Exactly! Then return the vacuum after you take the cheap barcode off and get giftcard/cash for the vacuum.

lmao NICE!!!! im definetly doing this when i get some time...oh i have my report from wal marts today...
well it was basically a hit and miss...FUCK.
i did get a 30 italian leather wallet tho...pretty nice...will poast pics l8r if have time.
i was gona get some xbox live cards/mic. ponts, but i was afraid that i would beep on my way out...anyone stolen these before? can u juust take, and stuff in pants, jacket, etc?
oh and i got dremel barcodes too!
here they are.
the one that costs $73.87:
8059602979
the one that costs $19.97:
8059601378
hope these help...will poast in barcoding thread later...i g2g. PEACE!

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 03:49 PM
lmao NICE!!!! im definetly doing this when i get some time...oh i have my report from wal marts today...
well it was basically a hit and miss...FUCK.
i did get a 30 italian leather wallet tho...pretty nice...will poast pics l8r if have time.
i was gona get some xbox live cards/mic. ponts, but i was afraid that i would beep on my way out...anyone stolen these before? can u juust take, and stuff in pants, jacket, etc?
oh and i got dremel barcodes too!
here they are.
the one that costs $73.87:
8059602979
the one that costs $19.97:
8059601378
hope these help...will poast in barcoding thread later...i g2g. PEACE!

xbox live cards are only activated if scanned I believe why else would they be sitting out in the open.

P Z
10-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Has anyone ever gotten sweaters before. Sometimes those things are too big to conseal and its super noticable when you wear one over the other. Please and thank yous.

Bender
10-17-2009, 08:05 PM
well, for that macy's bit.

those shoppers that were following you and your friend were undercover LP. if you suspect ANYONE following you, ditch the merchandise. thats why you got caught.


today i picked up nsome bose headphones

Yeah man, heres how my little lifting weekend worked out.

Macy's is a bitch. LP escorted like 5 people out while we were there. But on the opposite end of the store I had a girl of mine make a small purchase at Sear's while throwing a purse over her shoulder behind her purse. $180 right there. Got a 45 dollar belt from Spencer's. Heres the thing there was still a security tag on it, but no alarm went out. Also with the purse, no alarm.

Is there ink in here? How can I remove it? I'm not experienced in tags and tag removal.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg264/AntiCitizen_1/Tag.jpg


Slipped on a pair of 50 dollar shoes. DC's. Threw old shoes in a HT bag.

Also thinking of lifting for Pac Sun. Problem tho, they tag EVERYTHING. Now I don't anything about tags, it was round about the size of a quarter maybe slightly smaller, and was shaped like a spinner, colored beige or tanniish. Can anyone help me out on what remover I need?



Dillard's was almost empty nothing but LP, and I'm sure they had me monitored on camera. I was checking out some affliction wear. Not tagged.

313
10-17-2009, 08:15 PM
xbox live cards are only activated if scanned I believe why else would they be sitting out in the open.

Oksweet so i dont need to magic bag them...im gonna get a shitload of them

theinvader
10-17-2009, 10:57 PM
Went to kmart today, lifted a $10 pack of photo paper (needed it). Got home, printed 1 pic, and printer's out of ink. Epic fucking :facepalm:. My kmart doesn't have any canon ink, so i'll go to walgreens and lift a refill kit.
Meant to get me some nice earbuds. I was with my aunt, she was at the other end of store, but it's a saturday so there's extra lp/workers roaming about.
Lol, the photo paper had no eas but it barely fit in my pocket. (4x6 20 sheets)
Grabbed off shelf, fucked around until other people were out of isle, stuck in back pocket.
Limped around for a few hours with it there until I got home and started printing (lol).

TexasLifter
10-17-2009, 11:08 PM
got my new computer =) its sweet as hell HP AMD quad core with 23 inch HD 1080 p monitor now i gota go lift a couple nice PCI-e video cards and change out the power supply...oh also lifted Windows XP 64 bit for it since vista sucks balls! 2 more Blu-ray drives and a couple PS3 and Xbox Controllers

Shaun
10-17-2009, 11:20 PM
got my new computer =) its sweet as hell HP AMD quad core with 23 inch HD 1080 p monitor now i gota go lift a couple nice PCI-e video cards and change out the power supply...oh also lifted Windows XP 64 bit for it since vista sucks balls! 2 more Blu-ray drives and a couple PS3 and Xbox Controllers

You stole an entire computer? Story?

Starvin
10-17-2009, 11:29 PM
Hm, Kayla, that is a great idea.... o.o They can't monitor bathrooms... If you are in a state that can, avoid the bathroom, anyway. x]

And if nobody is in the bathroom with you, LOCK the DOOR for extra time. And crawl under the bottom if you can.. o:

imawolfrawr
10-17-2009, 11:30 PM
it will say on the tag "caution tampering can cause serious damage blah blah blah" and it will say if its an ink tag. Either buy the magnets to remove them. Look on youtube for the video on how to remove them by scraping on the sidewalk or if your feeling risky stick them in your freezer for like 2-3 days. If you go the freezer route don't get pissed if the bust its iffy on how long it takes to freeze the ink. I just busted the tag off and cut the ink stain out of my jeans (they already are made with holes so its not like the extra hole made a big deal)

Starvin
10-17-2009, 11:42 PM
Whoever was confused about the Xbox cards, they NEED to be swiped, and you must buy. D; Only AFTER the transaction is the process completed, they are activated, too. I tried to say, "Oh, shit! I forgot another item. I'll be back after a bit. Can you just cancel it?" Stole the card [[Mine was a Gaiaonline card, back when I had an account, but same principal]]. Failed, said it wasn't active. D; Same as stealing the card without trying to activate the card at the register at all.

If it DOES work for someone at the register, TELL ME, so that I may try again, with something that I CAN sell to someone else. x]

Shaun
10-17-2009, 11:56 PM
Hello.~ I've read up until.. Page 29, I believe. ^__^; This thread was very informative, and gave me MANY great tips, so I've decided to do my first post here...

I am a complete and total n00b for shoplifting. I have never done it. But, like my username/siggy show, I'm getting a bit desperate for food. I am completely broke, as my job is commission-based. >__< And I need to pay for rent, etc.

What are the best places to shoplift food, and what are some hard-to-get-caught ways to do it? .-. And I'm talking about good food. If I can, I would love to even get some of the frozen items. ^__^;;

Any/All advice would be greatly loved.

You could try shoplifting from a restaurant and doing a dine and dash. Pick up an unloaded gift card to a place somewhere like at a grocery store or a food lion. Go to the restaurant, then when it's time to pay put the gift card on the table with the receipt.

They have to go run the gift card before they know it's empty so it gives you plenty of time to walk away. If you see the waiter just tell him you're leaving him the rest of the balance as a tip.

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 12:10 AM
lol just got about 30 bucks worth of scratch off lottery tickets went to store lady in front of me bought tickets she put them in coat pocket and stood there in front of me talking to the lady at counter and i slipped them out of her pocket so easy got a 5 dollar winner and and a 10 dollar winner out of them ....i almost feel bad.......almost...wait. no i dont gambling is a sin! lol hahaha

shopliftTHIS
10-18-2009, 01:56 AM
Just chiming in to mention that I received my magnets yesterday, tried them out today and they work flawlessly. Opened the Alpha cases and spider wraps like nothing.

imawolfrawr
10-18-2009, 02:09 AM
So I see all this shit about people jacking stuff that's in alpha cases and spider wraps;

Is lp like oh its got a spider wrap just ignore him he's not gonna steal.

And all the alpha cases I see have the lock on the little bar as well so wouldn't it be suspicious to be wandering around with an alpha case in hand if they know that they are secured to the bars they hang from?

Also someone get me a G1 and ill pay you 150 bucks no questions asked (as long as it works) :thumbsup:

Loophole
10-18-2009, 02:13 AM
Not sure if any of you know this, but at Walmart, they have these Gumy brand headphones:

http://img.icefoundry.co.uk/l_gumy_headphones_bl.jpg

Anyway, these headphones run around $10 each, have very small packaging (around the size of a cellphone), and have absolutely no tags in them at all. You can easily drop 3 of these in one pocket. Easy profit.

313
10-18-2009, 02:15 AM
you are an idiot. they are worth nothing until scanned at the register



good for you

ok...call me an idiot now...but when i sell an assload of them on ebay, then we'll see whos laughing faggot. im not sure if you think its cool to try and sound bad ass on teh interwebz...but its not. and you seem like a total fag, you are always fucking criticizing people, wtf is your problem? chill the fuck out.:thumbsdown:

theinvader
10-18-2009, 02:21 AM
My paypal's frozen now with about negative fifty bucks.
real info, but I doubt they will trace it and fuck me over.
i'll just make another and dump a visa card in with money made from counterfeiting, then buy mags.

@Diet soda:
those are at walgreens and kmart and target, too. i'll lift some next time i'm in walgreens, they look nice.

@shoplifthis:
who did you order your mags from? kj?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:21 AM
ok...call me an idiot now...but when i sell an assload of them on ebay, then we'll see whos laughing faggot. im not sure if you think its cool to try and sound bad ass on teh interwebz...but its not. and you seem like a total fag, you are always fucking criticizing people, wtf is your problem? chill the fuck out.:thumbsdown:

and when you get arrested for fraud on ebay better hope you make enough money for bail

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 02:22 AM
I cant open spider wraps to easy with my s3 key. And its kinda hard to practice. where on it do i need to click around?

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 02:23 AM
Also I think I might be losing my touch I feel like cameras are watching me maybe i just need to smoke a joint before i lift to take the edge off?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:25 AM
I cant open spider wraps to easy with my s3 key. And its kinda hard to practice. where on it do i need to click around?

if you have a real s3 key just put the little tits in the indention on the side of the spider wrap and they pop right off, at least mine do every time, only one i had to work at a few times were the plastic cases they put blu-ray and games in

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:28 AM
Also I think I might be losing my touch I feel like cameras are watching me maybe i just need to smoke a joint before i lift to take the edge off?

i get that way too sometimes and when i do i just walk away for a few days always trust your instincts, and always remember to never get cocky and start thinking they will never catch me because you get careless one time and your in handcuffs

When i use to go car shopping when i was a teenager i had rule about the radio being on in my car, if me and my buddy were on the way out to find a good spot the radio was off kind of a superstition thing, well one night we were out and playing and my buddy accidentally turned on the radio when he was trying to get the clock up and 30 minutes later we got busted =/

shopliftTHIS
10-18-2009, 02:32 AM
@theinvader
Yes I got them from KJ

@mdbm88
Today I just put my magnets directly on top of the opening device and it popped open. Sometimes you have to push in on the male end to get it to disconnect.

@Anonymous
I actually tried both of those today and they worked the same way..pretty easily. What seems to be the problem you're having?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:34 AM
@theinvader


@Anonymous
I actually tried both of those today and they worked the same way..pretty easily. What seems to be the problem you're having?

I don't think he uses a real s3 key so it doesn't line itself up

shopliftTHIS
10-18-2009, 02:36 AM
I don't use a real key either, although I have much experience with them and know how they work.

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:43 AM
i got fake leather looking vinyl with some thin padding on it andi'm going to glue it onto my s3 key except on the magnet side i'll pull the padding off and just glue it flat that way it looks puffier and i can hang it on my keys on my belt and will look like a keychain =)

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:48 AM
untill all of your keys stick to it.

think it will be a little wierd for a guy to be playing with his keys in a store...

keys are brass and don't stick to magnet and i have a small retractable thing makes it easy to pull up to what ever i'm working on =)

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:52 AM
actually 99% of keys are made out of brass

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:56 AM
really? cuz i just stuck 75% of my keys + the keyrings to a magnet

key ring yes keys no.....they make keys out of brass because its a softer metal and can be cut easy, steel keys require different kind of DI to cut them and those machines cost a lot more (i use to run the key maker all the time when i worked in a auto parts store)

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 02:58 AM
i have about 20 keys on my ring and only 1 steel and its the key to my safety deposit box at the bank

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 03:00 AM
well my locksmith aint a cheap jew. my keys are steel.

anyway, i sold them xbox wifi adapters i lifted the other day on ebay for $60 each...

looks like im goin to the postoffice monday. :D

lol ok bud what ever you say, i believe you..honest

313
10-18-2009, 03:03 AM
so you really only need s3 keys to steal electronics? how big are they?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 03:04 AM
i walk around with my keys in my hand all the time but anyways back to topic

313
10-18-2009, 03:06 AM
make one, theyre small. i have a guide earlier on the thread.

yea im thinking of making one. but i dont really steal electroincs...yet. i will be doing some box stuffing later though

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 03:18 AM
I think in a few weeks im going to go out of state to lift. Has anyone else done that?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 03:19 AM
I think in a few weeks im going to go out of state to lift. Has anyone else done that?

everytime i travel lol =)

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 03:29 AM
everytime i travel lol =)

where in texas do you live?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 03:31 AM
not to be an ass but not guna say for my own safety lol =)

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 03:58 AM
just look in all of the trashcans

hes Hiding in one

hehe yup looking for SS numbers lol

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 04:10 AM
thought this was funny ;) http://www.mydoorsign.com/companies/safetyxpress/detailed/s/s-4903.gif

imawolfrawr
10-18-2009, 05:06 AM
Double pwned. I agree lets stop with the gay ass grammar nazi shit and get back on topic (cause we all the only reason people -start-, start being the key word, correct others spelling on a forum is because there to lame to make an insult.)

Do tell how you scored the computer though unless I missed it. (Mobile browsing ftl)

Edit : cp>profile>statistics>all thanked posts

That will show you where

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 05:20 AM
How about we talk about different stores and there policies.

Fry's has to see you open the package. Blind spots in that store are hard as fuck to come by so i say fuck it and head to the restroom.

Best Buy I think is the same but there have alot of blind spots so toy should be able to make due and they have a no chase to touch policy so as long as you can get out the doors you should be fine and if they disable the button in right on top the door so tab that shit and break for it.

walmart... its fucking walmart.

kmart...its fucking kmart.

walmart and kmart just be smart if people of following you then ditch it and leave if not find yourself a nice aisle in "pillows" and open and discard package.

Now for clothes stores just take 2 of what you intend to steal into the dressing room and have a detacher for whatever security device they have.

Any comments?

Starvin
10-18-2009, 05:24 AM
I found the Thanks thing on my own, and also realized where it tells you if you have notifications. Whoops. Thanks, though. But how long until I am no longer a Mud Farmer?

On-topic;
I'm hitting somewhere I may be doing business with tomorrow. Grocery-ish, with all kinds of shit. Believe it or not, just grabbing some candy, and cat treats. XD This store has a bad health record, and is family-owned, so not too many valuables. No EAS towers [[Is that what they are called, I think? Something Towers]], and I may also grab steak. Bad health or not, steak is steak.

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 05:34 AM
I found the Thanks thing on my own, and also realized where it tells you if you have notifications. Whoops. Thanks, though. But how long until I am no longer a Mud Farmer?

On-topic;
I'm hitting somewhere I may be doing business with tomorrow. Grocery-ish, with all kinds of shit. Believe it or not, just grabbing some candy, and cat treats. XD This store has a bad health record, and is family-owned, so not too many valuables. No EAS towers [[Is that what they are called, I think? Something Towers]], and I may also grab steak. Bad health or not, steak is steak.

dont steal from mom and pop

Starvin
10-18-2009, 05:51 AM
But they are greedy bastards. For an 88 cent can of Chef Bouyardee Ravioli, they want $1.79... Over double the price by 3 cents. Dx And they get plenty of meat. x]

P Z
10-18-2009, 07:09 AM
Hey how do you remove ink,super, and gator tags with a rubber band. I read it earlier on this thread but I didnt understand. I got one thats pretty gib for a rubber band but I need more detail on how it is done. And a rubber band is the only things I have right now when it comes to these things.

These are what ive been coming across for a while now.



http://thecloseoutindustry.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/windowslivewriter40a179362ce4-4abdcommon-tags-thumb1.gif

http://sensortags.net/used-tags/images/sensormaticinktag3.jpg


Please and thanks.

Kayla
10-18-2009, 07:40 AM
I need a new nintendo ds lite I wanted to steal one from best buy but I have to risk burning down a store to get one. My local best buy has their dses on a shelf like cheap candy with a spider device. Any stores besides best buy that has dses out in the open that you can steal them easier ? Is there anyway to cut off the spider security devices & do they ring if you cut them off ?

imawolfrawr
10-18-2009, 08:13 AM
dont steal from mom and pop


THIS!!!!!

It's the only rule

Starvin
10-18-2009, 09:19 AM
THIS!!!!!

It's the only rule

It isn't so much MOM and POP, OR a family-owned business.. But it isn't corporate, either.. x-x Hard to explain.

The people there are fucking pricks, though. Hardcore. Dx

maskedwolfpup
10-18-2009, 10:41 AM
Here is the straight scoop on this subject. As I am writing this, I'm on the phone with somebody I know, who works at the customer service desk as a Customer Service Manager (CSM), for Wal- Mart, and here's the real scoop...1) a Person can do a maximum of 3 returns per year with no receipt, AND 2) Any refund over the amount of $50.00 require that a member of management (store manager, co-manager or assistant manager) has to approve the refund.


ALWAYS HAVE A PLAN, BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER, CUSTER HAD A PLAN TOO

How does this work fully? Is it registered in the computer as the date, ie if I do 3 total for the year, do I come back next year at 10/18/2010, or could I do it again starting at 1/1/2010?

Starvin
10-18-2009, 10:52 AM
How does this work fully? Is it registered in the computer as the date, ie if I do 3 total for the year, do I come back next year at 10/18/2010, or could I do it again starting at 1/1/2010?

It would be a Full Year, starting at the date of the first transaction.

maskedwolfpup
10-18-2009, 11:44 AM
It would be a Full Year, starting at the date of the first transaction.

do they fall off? the strange thing was I returned some stuff without a receipt around march or so, went back another time and returned something, then returned something else and the lady said "this is item 2 of 3 you can return in a year" to me. Did she misread it? or is the system screwing up?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 01:47 PM
do they fall off? the strange thing was I returned some stuff without a receipt around march or so, went back another time and returned something, then returned something else and the lady said "this is item 2 of 3 you can return in a year" to me. Did she misread it? or is the system screwing up?
they must of misread it. it is 1 year from the date of the first return. also away to get a few more out of it go to your local DMV and get a state ID ...in texas they look the same as a Drivers license and when u return they can scan it instead of DL which will give you 3 more returns in a year. just remember when doing returns on electronics with out receipt they usually only want to do an exchange so if they do this go get something a little more expensive than the item being returned and pay the difference....you will get a CASH receipt and you will be able to return that item for full cash refund =) just make sure you are paying atleast 10 cash out of pocket.

maskedwolfpup
10-18-2009, 04:39 PM
i'm debating right now if I did the old switcheroo scam to basically get another one for free, but not sure if it would work fully. I think it's pretty high, but being electronic I don't know fully what they check. ie if they just look at the serial number it's got on it's box and on the merchandise itself, or if they look at the extra one it has also. The box has 2 serial numbers on it which is peculiar. the reciept doesn't have one printed on it though

theinvader
10-18-2009, 05:25 PM
goin to walmart in a few.
will post barcodes

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 07:04 PM
i'm debating right now if I did the old switcheroo scam to basically get another one for free, but not sure if it would work fully. I think it's pretty high, but being electronic I don't know fully what they check. ie if they just look at the serial number it's got on it's box and on the merchandise itself, or if they look at the extra one it has also. The box has 2 serial numbers on it which is peculiar. the receipt doesn't have one printed on it though
did they scan the Serial number when you bought it? if so it will be in there system...even if its not on the receipt

hellspawn
10-18-2009, 08:25 PM
i'm debating right now if I did the old switcheroo scam to basically get another one for free, but not sure if it would work fully. I think it's pretty high, but being electronic I don't know fully what they check. ie if they just look at the serial number it's got on it's box and on the merchandise itself, or if they look at the extra one it has also. The box has 2 serial numbers on it which is peculiar. the reciept doesn't have one printed on it though

SWIM used to work at a wal-mart ..... in electronics, so i've hear all about it. But, the reciept never has a serial # so no worries, they will check the box for all the wires and paperwork and shit and they will compare the unit serial to the box serial. And the serial may be in the system yes, however it doesn't mean jack shit, they wont use the info ever. and if i was you i'd peel off one of the excess serials. And remeber if all else fails just keep bitching, and eventually somone will kiss your ass.

testerman
10-18-2009, 09:52 PM
dont steal from mom and pop

yup that is one of my rules too. unless they are indian or chinese

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 10:02 PM
SWIM used to work at a wal-mart ..... in electronics, so i've hear all about it. But, the reciept never has a serial # so no worries, they will check the box for all the wires and paperwork and shit and they will compare the unit serial to the box serial. And the serial may be in the system yes, however it doesn't mean jack shit, they wont use the info ever. and if i was you i'd peel off one of the excess serials. And remeber if all else fails just keep bitching, and eventually somone will kiss your ass.

thats not true i'm looking at my walmart receipt right now and it has the serial number on it from computer i purchased.

testerman
10-18-2009, 10:30 PM
Anyone know how long it takes to get the letter from walmart to say you were banned? and will I have a fine? and what if I never pay it?

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 10:37 PM
Anyone know how long it takes to get the letter from walmart to say you were banned? and will I have a fine? and what if I never pay it?

you won't get a letter or atleast i never did lol and i've been banned for life 6 different times in my life lol =)

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 10:47 PM
Ok so here is my plan.
(Please play why you read the post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii1tc493bZM)

So I go into fry's and right before I pick up the item I intend to lift I call the fry's lp at the store im at and say one of the following.

1. Im lp at another store and we just got hit by a shoplifter and we only could see his car, can you check your parking lot for a ex.blue honda (I might even switch it up and say "oh no i mean a red honda"this would give more time.
2. Im a cop and we have reason to belive that a stolen car is in your parking lot its a ex. black acura.
3. Im a employee and I see some people acting funny by a car like they are stealing it. (have friends fuck around by a decoy car)

Any thing will do just to get him to use his cameras and look outside.

Now while Im talking to him i pick up my lift which is gonna be in a s3 case and head for the bathroom all the while talking to him to make sure he is looking outside and keeping up with the story. This is also good because you are on the phone and sales persons are less likely to talk to you, in fact they wont. You head to the bathroom and keep talking get you shit unpackage throw everything including the s3 case in the trash if it dont fit then fuck it leave that mother fucker on the ground.

Now you can hang up now or just stay on till you get to your car your choice.

What do you guys think? I think its fuckin golden!

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 10:54 PM
Ok so here is my plan.
(Please play why you read the post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii1tc493bZM)

So I go into fry's and right before I pick up the item I intend to lift I call the fry's lp at the store im at and say one of the following.

1. Im lp at another store and we just got hit by a shoplifter and we only could see his car, can you check your parking lot for a ex.blue honda (I might even switch it up and say "oh no i mean a red honda"this would give more time.
2. Im a cop and we have reason to belive that a stolen car is in your parking lot its a ex. black acura.
3. Im a employee and I see some people acting funny by a car like they are stealing it. (have friends fuck around by a decoy car)

Any thing will do just to get him to use his cameras and look outside.

Now while Im talking to him i pick up my lift which is gonna be in a s3 case and head for the bathroom all the while talking to him to make sure he is looking outside and keeping up with the story. This is also good because you are on the phone and sales persons are less likely to talk to you, in fact they wont. You head to the bathroom and keep talking get you shit unpackage throw everything including the s3 case in the trash if it dont fit then fuck it leave that mother fucker on the ground.

Now you can hang up now or just stay on till you get to your car your choice.

What do you guys think? I think its fuckin golden!

decent plan..i wouldn't pretend to be a cop...if for some reason u got caught you could get felony charges for impersonating an officer

mdbm88
10-18-2009, 10:57 PM
decent plan..i wouldn't pretend to be a cop...if for some reason u got caught you could get felony charges for impersonating an officer

very true but i would of called from a blocked number and i know for a fact cops cant trace shit.

Which would you do?

testerman
10-18-2009, 11:04 PM
you won't get a letter or atleast i never did lol and i've been banned for life 6 different times in my life lol =)

fuck, sorry for the dumb question I edited it out.

but when would you start hitting walamrt again after you get a ban? a few months?

hellspawn
10-18-2009, 11:10 PM
thats not true i'm looking at my walmart receipt right now and it has the serial number on it from computer i purchased.

wow, my friends wal-mart must have been fucked up, because 90% of shit that should have had a serial # on the receipt didn't. Of course it's been a while since they worked there. But i will stick by the rest, bitch up the ladder until you get to the store manger, then if they don't bend to your will threaten to call home office, and home office will give you whatever you want. That corporation is scared as hell of losing customers.

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 11:39 PM
fuck, sorry for the dumb question I edited it out.

but when would you start hitting walamrt again after you get a ban? a few months?

last time i got banned was about 2 months ago for fighting in the store lol =) i saw this guy and his wife/girlfriend get into argument and he shoved her really hard into a endcap on a isle so i ran my basket into his side as hard as i could push it then we threw a few punches before security guys broke it up...anyway we both got banned hehe i just stayed outa that store for a couple of weeks and now i always wear my cowboy hat when i go in there lol shouldn't of done it but fuck i hate seeing guys treating there girls bad =(

TexasLifter
10-18-2009, 11:44 PM
wow, my friends wal-mart must have been fucked up, because 90% of shit that should have had a serial # on the receipt didn't. Of course it's been a while since they worked there. But i will stick by the rest, bitch up the ladder until you get to the store manger, then if they don't bend to your will threaten to call home office, and home office will give you whatever you want. That corporation is scared as hell of losing customers.

this is very true...also something else u can pull on them...switch price tags on the shelf with one lower then go check out when it rings up full price complain that, that price isn't whats on the shelf they will call manager they will go check the price...(make sure to follow them back to it so they can't just swap it again lol ) then insist on getting it for the price on shelf because its not your fault the stocker was a lazy SOB and didn't fix the prices hehe i've done this a ton of times on really big items i can't barcode swap =) I got the 24 foot by 4.5 foot pool for 120 bucks when its normally 5 or 600 i argued with them for about 20 minutes till i threatend to call corporate office and the manager gave in and promo'ed the price down to 120 plus tax =) friend got a 50 inch LCD tv a few weeks ago like that payed like 199 for it because the price was marked wrong on shelf GOD BLESS WAL-MART!

testerman
10-19-2009, 12:28 AM
Ok n00b. Those things do ring. I wouldnt go to best buy right away tho. its fucking hard. Go jack some 32gb flash drives and stuff from officemax untill you get good. then you can
A) try your luck at bestbuy
B) sell the flashdrives on ebay ($50 a piece) and buy a ds.

you can open spiderwraps and keeper cases using my guide (http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=1143198&highlight=array#post1143198)



do these 32gb drives have any rfid on them or can you just shove them in your pocket and leave?

testerman
10-19-2009, 12:29 AM
Ok this weekened I did jack $300 of goods from a grocery store, and $100 in vitamins from, walgreens (I was reaching over grabbing vitamins and put them in my jacket pockets while in line at the drop off window while she had her head buried in the computer)

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 12:47 AM
those sandisk cruzer ones?. just use ur s3 key to open any secure hooks/keepers. then just cut it out of the package. look at them, the package is designed for lifting. small, unobtrusive. idk if it has rfid, wouldnt risk it.


edit:



ever hear of the edit button?

what does he need to edit?

Kazar
10-19-2009, 12:58 AM
the walmart near me sucks. for videogames they dont use alpha keepers and everything is behind glass. im banned from bestbuy wich uses alpha keepers on games...

the fye near me knows who i am.

so, i guess im gonna have to buy COD6 and assasin's creed 2...

unless anyones knows how do disguises... HALP!

i need to go into fye undetected. on black friday of course, cuz my fye only has maximum 5 customers inside at a time...

HALP

Just thought of another idea. You could buy a convincing wig. Obviously, you would need a combination of other disguises, but it's a start. As Halloween is coming up, seasonal Halloween stores are opening near my area and some have pretty realistic wigs. Also, you could shave your head and wear a wig (if you don't care about your hairstyle). This way, if the employees think it's fake, you could say you had cancer or something.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 12:58 AM
well tomorrow im going to go try the fry's hustle probable is gonna be pretty slow on a monday so i may not just depends.

Has anyone thought of just printing off fake walmart receipts? That way you can do the "take the product and go out the other entrance" with out putting up any money. And think how bad ass it would be sitting in your car driving around from walmart to walmart printing of receipts and jackin that shit.

theinvader
10-19-2009, 01:08 AM
Fujifilm S1500FD comes up as "DIG CAMERA" on receipt.
Lady didn't scan my serial number, but there was a security strip in the fucking battery door of the camera. Desperate now, are we? Don't jack any cameras nowadays, people. Manufacturers are getting smarter. Barcode: 0 74101 48141 9
Great camera, btw.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 01:19 AM
you need a reciept printer + a roll of the store's reciept paper. :facepalm:

i suppose if you had cashier friends they could get you the latter.

walmart receipt paper aint nothing speceial no water marks or nothing. and a thermal receipt printer off craigslist run easy cheap.

Im sure i could find some software where i could put whatever the fuck i wanted on it.

I think ill invest into this tactic.

theinvader
10-19-2009, 01:29 AM
just checked my receipt from my new camera.
walmart uses a low gloss thermal paper.
it's sort of shiny under the right light, but it's the same as any store.
Kmart and target uses watermarked paper, but walmart doesn't (lol kmart sucks more than walmart)

TexasLifter
10-19-2009, 01:37 AM
i've been thinking of getting a receipt printer and using my laptop in the car to do this...go in find what i want and print the receipt go back and get it found several cheap ones online to buy just setting it up to print with same font as wal mart uses will be the longest part but will be well worth it in the end...just don't try to make returns with those receipts lol

TexasLifter
10-19-2009, 01:38 AM
just checked my receipt from my new camera.
walmart uses a low gloss thermal paper.
it's sort of shiny under the right light, but it's the same as any store.
Kmart and target uses watermarked paper, but walmart doesn't (lol kmart sucks more than walmart)

we don't even have a kmart here anymore wal-mart pretty much ran them out of town a few years ago.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 01:53 AM
^^lol wut?

i meant to say... thermal printers usually only print one font

the thermal printers will print what ever you want that why its able to do barcodes logos "1 item sold" all big and stuff on the walmart receipts.

Well i think its settled then receipt printer and going out all three exits is the way to go. No we just have to find a walmart that has good shit out. Im not trying to steal 3 box sets of the season lost.

Also this would work well with returning for store credit. I just checked and in texas at least we can return 3 times without receipt every 45 days.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 02:00 AM
I just dont see why this wouldn work. It just seems so easy.

Kazar
10-19-2009, 02:08 AM
Not sure if any of you know this, but at Walmart, they have these Gumy brand headphones:

http://img.icefoundry.co.uk/l_gumy_headphones_bl.jpg

Anyway, these headphones run around $10 each, have very small packaging (around the size of a cellphone), and have absolutely no tags in them at all. You can easily drop 3 of these in one pocket. Easy profit.

1. Are these good headphones? I need some new ones, my crappy apple headphones just broke like an hour ago. Got my nice bose headphones, but I need something more portable.

2. If these aren't good, what's another type of headphones that are easy to steal and are good quality.

pooter
10-19-2009, 02:10 AM
well tomorrow im going to go try the fry's hustle probable is gonna be pretty slow on a monday so i may not just depends.

Has anyone thought of just printing off fake walmart receipts? That way you can do the "take the product and go out the other entrance" with out putting up any money. And think how bad ass it would be sitting in your car driving around from walmart to walmart printing of receipts and jackin that shit.

You don't even need a recipt. I know crackheads that just go into walmart steal shit, and take it up to the returns desk and return it back to walmart w/o a reciept for store credit.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 02:18 AM
You don't even need a recipt. I know crackheads that just go into walmart steal shit, and take it up to the returns desk and return it back to walmart w/o a reciept for store credit.
i dont know how they do that. you need the sticker from the door man when you come in to return somethin.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 02:21 AM
1. Are these good headphones? I need some new ones, my crappy apple headphones just broke like an hour ago. Got my nice bose headphones, but I need something more portable.

2. If these aren't good, what's another type of headphones that are easy to steal and are good quality.

get the sony noise canceling ones from sony that go in your ear. they have them locked up in s3 cases but thats no problem. I got some and they are fuckin nice worth a 100 but they have em at office max office depot staples, all the places without cameras.

Kazar
10-19-2009, 02:22 AM
no. bose earbuds are the only ones worth the effort. MAJOR BASS

Where are these sold? How much are they (aprrox)? Easy to steal?

Malice
10-19-2009, 02:22 AM
Return a cheap item, get sticker, scan, make more.

Kazar
10-19-2009, 02:31 AM
1 everywhere
2 99$
3 yes

and dont gbet the sony ones like wutshizname said. they have hiss from the poor noise canceling circuit.

Thank you. (can't thank at my rank, btw, off topic, but how do you rank up and what are the ranks? Is there a list somewhere on this site?)

.it
10-19-2009, 02:40 AM
Thank you. (can't thank at my rank, btw, off topic, but how do you rank up and what are the ranks? Is there a list somewhere on this site?)

the more posts, the more rank.

maskedwolfpup
10-19-2009, 02:52 AM
SWIM used to work at a wal-mart ..... in electronics, so i've hear all about it. But, the reciept never has a serial # so no worries, they will check the box for all the wires and paperwork and shit and they will compare the unit serial to the box serial. And the serial may be in the system yes, however it doesn't mean jack shit, they wont use the info ever. and if i was you i'd peel off one of the excess serials. And remeber if all else fails just keep bitching, and eventually somone will kiss your ass.

The serial number is for the unit inside the case, and it's printed on the same sticker as the UPC. I'm just wondering if they'll take it apart and look at the unit inside the case, or just go "yep, it's all there, issue refund" after verifying everything in the box which it has

Kazar
10-19-2009, 02:56 AM
So I'm going back to my mall to get some clothes from American Eagle on Tuesday, as well as buying and/or stealing wigs, hair dye, etc. from the seasonal Halloween shop. As I've said, on Halloween, at my mall people dress up and stores give out candy. So I was thinking this would be a good time to lift because of the large amounts of people and an excuse to wear a costume, as to not be recognized. So I got a crazy idea the other day to steal an iphone from my apple store in my mall. I was browsing the other day when I picked up an iphone and the alarms started going off. The employees said it happened all the time and unplugged the cord connected to a socket on the floor. The sound stopped and the other guy took the device off the iphone. It was a white cord connected to something under the table and it was attached to a metal disc which was somehow attached to the iphone (magnetic or sticky?). He pulled the disc off, but it seemed he was struggling, it took about a minute of pulling. So here is what I'm thinking.

1. Get 2 or 3 friends and go to the mall dressed up on Halloween.
2. Friend 1 walks in and browses the store and the iphone section.
3. Friend 2 walks in with a couple of balloons and partailly blocks the camera. (not right in front of it, but partially covering the camera, so as not to look suspicious but still covering friend 1 and me).
4. 1 drops a (hooked object?) or something and unplugs cord.
5. I walk in and cut cord of iphone
6. Possibly a 3rd friend comes in and takes another iphone, also 1 could take an iphone.
7. 1 and I leave.
2. 2 leaves.

So a couple of questions,

1. Has anyone ever stole from apple? Am I getting myself into too much?
2. Will the employees immediately stop 2 from blocking the camera? (only two cameras in the store and only one is viewing the iphones).
3. What is an object 1 could drop so if caught, he could say the object caught on the cord and pulled the cord out?
4. I'm thinking a pair of pliers or a knife up my sleeve, any suggestions on how to cut and conceal the iphone?

I'd appreciate (creative) criticism and suggestions.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 03:17 AM
So I'm going back to my mall to get some clothes from American Eagle on Tuesday, as well as buying and/or stealing wigs, hair dye, etc. from the seasonal Halloween shop. As I've said, on Halloween, at my mall people dress up and stores give out candy. So I was thinking this would be a good time to lift because of the large amounts of people and an excuse to wear a costume, as to not be recognized. So I got a crazy idea the other day to steal an iphone from my apple store in my mall. I was browsing the other day when I picked up an iphone and the alarms started going off. The employees said it happened all the time and unplugged the cord connected to a socket on the floor. The sound stopped and the other guy took the device off the iphone. It was a white cord connected to something under the table and it was attached to a metal disc which was somehow attached to the iphone (magnetic or sticky?). He pulled the disc off, but it seemed he was struggling, it took about a minute of pulling. So here is what I'm thinking.

1. Get 2 or 3 friends and go to the mall dressed up on Halloween.
2. Friend 1 walks in and browses the store and the iphone section.
3. Friend 2 walks in with a couple of balloons and partailly blocks the camera. (not right in front of it, but partially covering the camera, so as not to look suspicious but still covering friend 1 and me).
4. 1 drops a (hooked object?) or something and unplugs cord.
5. I walk in and cut cord of iphone
6. Possibly a 3rd friend comes in and takes another iphone, also 1 could take an iphone.
7. 1 and I leave.
2. 2 leaves.

So a couple of questions,

1. Has anyone ever stole from apple? Am I getting myself into too much?
2. Will the employees immediately stop 2 from blocking the camera? (only two cameras in the store and only one is viewing the iphones).
3. What is an object 1 could drop so if caught, he could say the object caught on the cord and pulled the cord out?
4. I'm thinking a pair of pliers or a knife up my sleeve, any suggestions on how to cut and conceal the iphone?

I'd appreciate (creative) criticism and suggestions.

hmm ballons might seem a little odd.

maskedwolfpup
10-19-2009, 03:35 AM
So I'm going back to my mall to get some clothes from American Eagle on Tuesday, as well as buying and/or stealing wigs, hair dye, etc. from the seasonal Halloween shop. As I've said, on Halloween, at my mall people dress up and stores give out candy. So I was thinking this would be a good time to lift because of the large amounts of people and an excuse to wear a costume, as to not be recognized. So I got a crazy idea the other day to steal an iphone from my apple store in my mall. I was browsing the other day when I picked up an iphone and the alarms started going off. The employees said it happened all the time and unplugged the cord connected to a socket on the floor. The sound stopped and the other guy took the device off the iphone. It was a white cord connected to something under the table and it was attached to a metal disc which was somehow attached to the iphone (magnetic or sticky?). He pulled the disc off, but it seemed he was struggling, it took about a minute of pulling. So here is what I'm thinking.

1. Get 2 or 3 friends and go to the mall dressed up on Halloween.
2. Friend 1 walks in and browses the store and the iphone section.
3. Friend 2 walks in with a couple of balloons and partailly blocks the camera. (not right in front of it, but partially covering the camera, so as not to look suspicious but still covering friend 1 and me).
4. 1 drops a (hooked object?) or something and unplugs cord.
5. I walk in and cut cord of iphone
6. Possibly a 3rd friend comes in and takes another iphone, also 1 could take an iphone.
7. 1 and I leave.
2. 2 leaves.

So a couple of questions,

1. Has anyone ever stole from apple? Am I getting myself into too much?
2. Will the employees immediately stop 2 from blocking the camera? (only two cameras in the store and only one is viewing the iphones).
3. What is an object 1 could drop so if caught, he could say the object caught on the cord and pulled the cord out?
4. I'm thinking a pair of pliers or a knife up my sleeve, any suggestions on how to cut and conceal the iphone?

I'd appreciate (creative) criticism and suggestions.

I'd think your biggest problem would be if you manage to get out the door with even one iphone, the risk of the fact it's basically loaded with spyware and abilitys to block it. Stores today are total zealots in most cases about serial numbers/esn's (and a new esn format I forgot the name of) so I bet they may do random or outright say monthly audits to figure out what was reported as unsold/destroyed and so forth.

Would you want to be possibly be caught with a stolen phone, who's to say they don't just blacklist the esn (safer for you) or if they have a suspicion it was stolen then they follow you and nail you for it via cell towers and/or gps?

durlach
10-19-2009, 03:36 AM
So I'm going back to my mall to get some clothes from American Eagle on Tuesday, as well as buying and/or stealing wigs, hair dye, etc. from the seasonal Halloween shop. As I've said, on Halloween, at my mall people dress up and stores give out candy. So I was thinking this would be a good time to lift because of the large amounts of people and an excuse to wear a costume, as to not be recognized. So I got a crazy idea the other day to steal an iphone from my apple store in my mall. I was browsing the other day when I picked up an iphone and the alarms started going off. The employees said it happened all the time and unplugged the cord connected to a socket on the floor. The sound stopped and the other guy took the device off the iphone. It was a white cord connected to something under the table and it was attached to a metal disc which was somehow attached to the iphone (magnetic or sticky?). He pulled the disc off, but it seemed he was struggling, it took about a minute of pulling. So here is what I'm thinking.

1. Get 2 or 3 friends and go to the mall dressed up on Halloween.
2. Friend 1 walks in and browses the store and the iphone section.
3. Friend 2 walks in with a couple of balloons and partailly blocks the camera. (not right in front of it, but partially covering the camera, so as not to look suspicious but still covering friend 1 and me).
4. 1 drops a (hooked object?) or something and unplugs cord.
5. I walk in and cut cord of iphone
6. Possibly a 3rd friend comes in and takes another iphone, also 1 could take an iphone.
7. 1 and I leave.
2. 2 leaves.

So a couple of questions,

1. Has anyone ever stole from apple? Am I getting myself into too much?
2. Will the employees immediately stop 2 from blocking the camera? (only two cameras in the store and only one is viewing the iphones).
3. What is an object 1 could drop so if caught, he could say the object caught on the cord and pulled the cord out?
4. I'm thinking a pair of pliers or a knife up my sleeve, any suggestions on how to cut and conceal the iphone?

I'd appreciate (creative) criticism and suggestions.

You don't seem to be a very good thief; maybe you should try a different profession. Just improvise, case the place, avoid heat, then case it some more.

Kazar
10-19-2009, 03:42 AM
I'd think your biggest problem would be if you manage to get out the door with even one iphone, the risk of the fact it's basically loaded with spyware and abilitys to block it. Stores today are total zealots in most cases about serial numbers/esn's (and a new esn format I forgot the name of) so I bet they may do random or outright say monthly audits to figure out what was reported as unsold/destroyed and so forth.

Would you want to be possibly be caught with a stolen phone, who's to say they don't just blacklist the esn (safer for you) or if they have a suspicion it was stolen then they follow you and nail you for it via cell towers and/or gps?

I was thinking this, especially since it's an i(PHONE). Yeah, it was just a thought and I just wanted to see if people have stolen from apple before. Although, I've read people on these forums who have said they've stolen phones from Fry's before. Since it's an iphone, will apple be more inclined to track it rather than a phone from Fry's?

Kazar
10-19-2009, 03:48 AM
You don't seem to be a very good thief; maybe you should try a different profession. Just improvise, case the place, avoid heat, then case it some more.

Well, I appreciate your thoughts, but it's always good to have a plan rather then just going in and improvising to steal an expensive item, especially an iphone from apple. It can be done, but I would rather plan it out.

mdbm88
10-19-2009, 03:51 AM
I was thinking this, especially since it's an i(PHONE). Yeah, it was just a thought and I just wanted to see if people have stolen from apple before. Although, I've read people on these forums who have said they've stolen phones from Fry's before. Since it's an iphone, will apple be more inclined to track it rather than a phone from Fry's?

Ill tell you this. If you steal those iphones apple isnt gonna do shit about it i promise you. they arnt going to have the esn or whatever number traced because they just wont. and even if they did they cant prove shit. and it takes alot of effort to trace a phone believe me they wont.

and yea i stole my n97 from fry's and im not worried about shit because i know nothing is going to happen. its just to much work for such a big business to do its just not worth it to them.

you guys saw the video of the people who robbed the apple store in 31 seconds they took iphones and you didnt here them saying oh we are gonna trace those fuckers. no the only thing they will do is flag the sn number which the only thing that does is make it so you better not call in for customer service or it will probably pop up with a note that says for the operator to contact there boss.

but none of that matters because they arent gonna do shit.

Starvin
10-19-2009, 04:28 AM
Whoever asked about Gummy Brand Headphones; Dude, that style of headphones such. Get Marshmallow brand. I don't know if anything is tagged on them, but they are double the price (minus a penny) of the Gummies. Worth the lift. They have the style that goes comfortably INTO the ear, so your volume/bass is better, too. Less outside interference when listening.

Note; I know, I'm still a n00b at lifting. But today was my best haul. <3 I got about $40 in stuff, more when tax is added to it. I stole it from Walmart, to be sold back to Kmart.. They have the same rings, btw. Exactly the same, if you need a quick buck. But you can return them to Kmart for more than you could at Walmart. :3 I got earrings [[I have a question, in a sec]], 2 rings in different styles/colors, one of those nail-art pens [[I've wanted one]] and some makeup [[also wanted, but was poor]]. ;]

QUESTION; Those sticker tags that say 'Security Device' at Walmart.. They are a silver circle, with a black dot in the middle. Those actually work for the Alarms? Or can I just shove all the shit that has'm in my pockets?

testerman
10-19-2009, 02:11 PM
Well, I appreciate your thoughts, but it's always good to have a plan rather then just going in and improvising to steal an expensive item, especially an iphone from apple. It can be done, but I would rather plan it out.


Hey I've only been a thief for about 4 months now. I only found this site maybe 1 month ago. It doesnt sound like you've done a lot of stealing yet. My advice to you is to stop reading this message board and stop talking about it for a few months and start to do it. I think coming here and yacking about it too much can actaully hurt your stealing because then you're all cocky and proud and want to show off what you did. just shut up, stop coming here for a while and go out there and do shit and come back in a few months with questions.

durlach
10-19-2009, 02:54 PM
jacked today 8 1 pound packs of coffee . worth $200

TexasLifter
10-19-2009, 02:57 PM
Hey I've only been a thief for about 4 months now. I only found this site maybe 1 month ago. It doesnt sound like you've done a lot of stealing yet. My advice to you is to stop reading this message board and stop talking about it for a few months and start to do it. I think coming here and yacking about it too much can actaully hurt your stealing because then you're all cocky and proud and want to show off what you did. just shut up, stop coming here for a while and go out there and do shit and come back in a few months with questions.

I agree, i mean its one thing to learn some tricks like where to get alpha key or make one, senso hooks and the like, but remember every store is different and every person is different, some people are just born to look guilty lol start small with little stuff like mrgoo said get use to it, get over the nerves and then move up to harder stuff, i mean a professional car thief doesn't go out and steal a lambo there first run work on ur skills learn the blind spots in the store and most important be patient don't get careless or you will be busted. and most important don't do this kinda thing with a bunch of friends thats the worse thing you can do...yeah you may get away but if your buddy gets busted your busted if they rat on you. and don't brag about it to your friends...and even if you have a friend who lifts too keep your bragging to a minimum because if they later get busted there is a chance they will turn you in to get out of it. or get a lesser charge... oh and one last piece of advice if you are with a friend and you do get busted KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! no matter what the cops say or do. even if they bring a signed statement from your friend in for you to look at. clam up and ask for a lawyer...the oldest trick in the book is for cops to come in and say ok your friend told us what happened now why don't you tell us your side...he's blaming it all on you. sadly this works 98% of the time even if your friend has ratted you out, you have a better chance getting off if you don't admit blame to the damn cops.

Bender
10-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Just found this off a website.



MaxTag II

Virtually impossible to shield with aluminum foil-lined bags.

For Use with Sensormatic and compatible 58 kHz AM systems.

Has anyone had there magicbag fail due to this? Or is this bullshit?

Kazar
10-19-2009, 07:02 PM
Hey I've only been a thief for about 4 months now. I only found this site maybe 1 month ago. It doesnt sound like you've done a lot of stealing yet. My advice to you is to stop reading this message board and stop talking about it for a few months and start to do it. I think coming here and yacking about it too much can actaully hurt your stealing because then you're all cocky and proud and want to show off what you did. just shut up, stop coming here for a while and go out there and do shit and come back in a few months with questions.

Actually, I have been a thief for about four months as well. Although I found this site a while ago, I didn't need it because I was mostly stealing food and clothes with minimal security. Now, I want to move up to the big stuff.

Ask yourself this; when you first started, did you know how to build an alpha key? Did you know how to use it to remove spider wraps? Did you know how to remove ink tags? Most likely not; although you may have already been experienced, most of us have not. That is why we have this thread; to increase our knowledge on shoplifting and learn from others' mistakes and experiences.

I agree with you though on experience. It's not enough to read the all the pages of this thread and think you can go out and steal a laptop from best buy on your first day. But everyone needs some basic knowledge and a push in the right direction.

imawolfrawr
10-19-2009, 07:03 PM
Loot - 20 dollar nylabone with real bacon flavor!

Starvin
10-19-2009, 08:41 PM
Someone please answer my question about the lil round stickers that say 'Security Device'? D; Was stuck to earrings that I wanted, and was curious. XD [[Already lifted by just taking the damned things out of the holder. Wearing them now, but that isn't the point. Wanted to know if they work, for other stuff]]

Dragon239
10-19-2009, 10:01 PM
So, would stealing from best buy be a bad idea? Sort of a newbie at this, but yesterday I was with my bro at best buy and they have graphics cards (HD 4890 and such) just sitting out in boxes, no security things on them, just the box and some tape keeping it shut. I could easily cut the tape/remove it somehow (shove it under the shelf and look like I'm leaning on it and cut it), but the problem is what do I do with the actual card itself... I don't need any of the other junk in the box, none of that is too important, I just need the card
The cards sort of look like this:
http://techtickerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hd4890.jpg
Dimensions are supposedly "# Dimensions: 260x100x33 mm (the last figure is the maximum thickness)"
I'm not sure, could I just stuff it down my pants/in a pocket? It comes wrapped in that bubble wrap stuff, so it wouldn't like...hurt anything. (<_<) I've heard best buy has some nice security (Camera-wise) though, and that friggin guy at the door scares me. :(
This could be solved if somebody else could recommend a store that has graphics cards on shelves without too much security. I can't even find the best buy cameras, not sure what to look for.
Fun brain exercises, no?

Dragon239
10-19-2009, 10:32 PM
Wouldn't that be sort of suspicious? What's your definition of "coat"..? My "definition" is like a winter one. I have like hoodies that zip up, and cargo pants..
Another question: Is it a good idea to like acknowledge/nod at the door guy when you walk out, or just completely ignore him? Ignoring would seem to me like "hmm...nervous?", but a nod could also be like "trying to look like a nice person to avoid suspicion, eh?" <_<.

Omnibus
10-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Is it a good idea to like acknowledge/nod at the door guy when you walk out, or just completely ignore him? Ignoring would seem to me like "hmm...nervous?", but a nod could also be like "trying to look like a nice person to avoid suspicion, eh?" <_<.

Do you usually nod ? Do other people ? My guess is no, and you should try to act just like a regular customer. If he looks at you just maintain eye contact for a few sec, stay cool and walk out.
They won't do anything unless they are already suspicious, and if they are you are fucked anyway.

imawolfrawr
10-20-2009, 02:04 AM
Wouldn't that be sort of suspicious? What's your definition of "coat"..? My "definition" is like a winter one. I have like hoodies that zip up, and cargo pants..
Another question: Is it a good idea to like acknowledge/nod at the door guy when you walk out, or just completely ignore him? Ignoring would seem to me like "hmm...nervous?", but a nod could also be like "trying to look like a nice person to avoid suspicion, eh?" <_<.

If an employee acknowledges you then atleast nod and smile, or just give a quick "how's it going" you don't have to stop and jack the guy off but if you atleast say something so you won't seem like some anti social douche that's probably a stealing something.

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 03:09 AM
ok todays haul...3 Blu-ray DVD players, 2 bluetooth PS3 head sets a 23 inch LCD HD computer monitor and Garmin GPS not to bad for 3 hours of work

Kazar
10-20-2009, 03:18 AM
how the fuck did you pull that off? i want a story

Yes, some of the his heists seem to good to be true, although he does sound honest and puts out some occasional good information. I think he said somewhere that he gets a receipt and walks out with the items over and over using different entrances.

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 03:19 AM
same way i always do it lol =) GOD BLESS WAL-MART and i'm going for a wii tomorrow they have them sitting out on shelf...but they were haveing employee meeting of some kind in electronics at the walmart i was at so couldn't access them going first thing in the morning

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 03:20 AM
Yes, some of the his heists seem to good to be true, although he does sound honest and puts out some occasional good information. I think he said somewhere that he gets a receipt and walks out with the items over and over using different entrances.

exactly bud =) and with my new found toy (s3 key) i'm having a hayday =) woot

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 03:41 AM
just to clear a few things up for peeps =) i'm by no means new to this game, i've been at it since i was a kid and i'm now 37 granted be i never thought to try and get a key to the spider wraps until i read this board lol and as soon as i found out how easy it was to get one i jumped on it. I've been hitting wally world the most because they are so damn easy and lets face it in the last couple of years they have started carrying some pretty decent stuff and well a big store like that its just alot easier to get stuff. and when i can get it with out opening packages and stuffing shit in my pants thats the way to go for me, yes there are times i do the blind spot cut and grab but i feel im less likely to get busted when i look like a average middle class white guy who has the money for anything i put in my basket at the store...face it if a 15 year old used my method to try and get a 42 inch plasma a few eyebrows would raise....me most people think man that guys wife is guna be pissed when he comes home with a 800 tv lol all comes down to looking the part. am i worried about getting busted? you damn right i am...every time i do it i know there is a chance, the main reason i do it ....i'm a convicted felon. i lost my job around january of this year and well fuck after 2 months of puting in applications and getting no where i said fuck this i'll turn my hobby into a job and make money. am i going to get rich? i doubt it. i make enough to cover house and car payment each month wife pays the bills from her job. she thinks i buy this shit wholesale and resell it on ebay and i'll keep it that way. so to anyone who doesn't believe my post, fuck you =) i'm not here to get people to believe me i'm here to help anyone and everyone who wants or is forced into doing these kinds of things and give my advice from life experience and hopefully keep some poor guy from going to jail for trying to support his pr her family. or them selves, i know how hard it is to make it from 1 paycheck to the next and how fucked up our system has become...lets face it when you drive pass the well-fare office and see fucks getting food stamps then getting into a car nicer than yours and they tell you you don't qualify because you make 120 bucks a month to much. (this happened to me) fuck the system and go out and make money anyway you can. or when you explain to said well-fare office you have car payment and insurance payment every month and they say sir there is a very good public transportation system in the city and we don't feel a vehicle is a necessity yet i live 5 miles outside of town...once again fuck them

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 03:45 AM
explain. step by step

if you have read any of my previous post you will know how i do it plain and simple i very seldom vary from my routine and today was no different.

mdbm88
10-20-2009, 03:58 AM
Wouldn't that be sort of suspicious? What's your definition of "coat"..? My "definition" is like a winter one. I have like hoodies that zip up, and cargo pants..
Another question: Is it a good idea to like acknowledge/nod at the door guy when you walk out, or just completely ignore him? Ignoring would seem to me like "hmm...nervous?", but a nod could also be like "trying to look like a nice person to avoid suspicion, eh?" <_<.

Yea that guy at the door will stop you if you dont nod. "Hey mother fucker you didnt nod at me, what did you steal?"

Just look and smile.

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 04:02 AM
Yea that guy at the door will stop you if you dont nod. "Hey mother fucker you didnt nod at me, what did you steal?"

Just look and smile.

lol nah just walk up to him and say man you wouldn't believe how much shit i can stuff in my tighty whitys smile and wink then run like hell

mdbm88
10-20-2009, 04:14 AM
Fuck these receipt printers are fuckin expensive. Im bout to just run up and steal one.

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 04:17 AM
Fuck these receipt printers are fuckin expensive. Im bout to just run up and steal one.
i saw some on e-bay this morning for like 60 bucks for a thermal printer.

TexasLifter
10-20-2009, 04:26 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Axiohm-Thermal-Receipt-Printer-A-716_W0QQitemZ120431512711QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_P rinters?hash=item1c0a470c87

BlackWoland
10-20-2009, 09:28 PM
anybody in edmonton ever shoplifted from one of those stores on whyte ave?

Starvin
10-20-2009, 10:08 PM
anybody in edmonton ever shoplifted from one of those stores on whyte ave?

You.. SERIOUSLY think someone with THAT SPECIFIC of an area is here? >->;; And reading this message board right now, on this exact page?

Fail... :facepalm:

.it
10-20-2009, 10:19 PM
You.. SERIOUSLY think someone with THAT SPECIFIC of an area is here? >->;; And reading this message board right now, on this exact page?

Fail... :facepalm:

yes, why not :p

Dragon239
10-20-2009, 10:27 PM
Anybody near muskegon, michigan? Lol.
What can cameras look like in best buy, to ask a real question..like the standard 'cameras', things in black domes, anything else they might use to be stealthy?

BlackWoland
10-20-2009, 10:30 PM
You.. SERIOUSLY think someone with THAT SPECIFIC of an area is here? >->;; And reading this message board right now, on this exact page?

Fail... :facepalm:

there are a couple of people on zoklet from edmonton!

Starvin
10-20-2009, 10:40 PM
there are a couple of people on zoklet from edmonton!

If you know that, why not PM them, hm? I doubt they will find your post in the ending bit of one thread. And I bet there is someone from STL, too, on Zoklet. But I'm not gonna ask in this thread about something, it'll never get answered.. XD Especially if I name a street. "Ever lift from Manchester Road?"

Just common sense for forums. XD

313
10-20-2009, 11:16 PM
Anybody near muskegon, michigan? Lol.
What can cameras look like in best buy, to ask a real question..like the standard 'cameras', things in black domes, anything else they might use to be stealthy?

no but i live in michigan...not muskegon though...thats where all the mother fucking rednecks are...i want to murder EVERY redneck in ecistence....

ok so i was just at barnes and noble...i want this book on modern recording techniques:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Modern-Recording-Techniques/David-Miles-Huber/e/9780240810690/?itm=1&USRI=modern+recording+techniques

its &44 mother fucking dollars!@!!!!!! ass fuck that!

so can i just walk in with a backpack and "throw it in the bag" or is that not smart? oh and for barcodes...those DONT set off alarms right? cuz my buddy thinks they do and he was flippin dicks the other day at wal mart cuz this knife had just a barcode...nothing else...just that little sticker thing and so he left it....thanks.

Lagg
10-20-2009, 11:20 PM
I've never lifted books before. But if I was going to, I would pick it up, go sit down read it for a few minutes, then just walk out with it in my hand like I already own it. I read that they put little eas tags in between pages so flip through the pages looking for those before you take it.

313
10-20-2009, 11:39 PM
I've never lifted books before. But if I was going to, I would pick it up, go sit down read it for a few minutes, then just walk out with it in my hand like I already own it. I read that they put little eas tags in between pages so flip through the pages looking for those before you take it.

i like the backpack idea better i think...i remember hearing someone on here mention that she stole books....fucking post how now...i need this bok god flippin dammit.!

mdbm88
10-20-2009, 11:41 PM
I've never lifted books before. But if I was going to, I would pick it up, go sit down read it for a few minutes, then just walk out with it in my hand like I already own it. I read that they put little eas tags in between pages so flip through the pages looking for those before you take it.

they put them in the back or in the spine. if its in the spine fuck it but if its on the back in the cover peel it off or it could be under the barcode/price sticker.

313
10-20-2009, 11:47 PM
they put them in the back or in the spine. if its in the spine fuck it but if its on the back in the cover peel it off or it could be under the barcode/price sticker.

there was no price sticker...no open binding either...price tag was printed on the back...so yea at Anonymous..i already have a library card, but they dont have this book...plus i WANT to KEEP this book...not just borrow it..

Starvin
10-20-2009, 11:51 PM
They mean stamp the book with something that says, "Property of ____ Library"... So you can claim it is your library book, not from the store.

313
10-21-2009, 12:22 AM
:facepalm:

no. order a custom stamp online ~$10. make it say something like the local library. ex: west beach public library.

stamp the book, its not theirs :D

i didnt know, dont :facepalm: me, fag...

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 12:25 AM
no but i live in michigan...not muskegon though...thats where all the mother fucking rednecks are...i want to murder EVERY redneck in ecistence....

ok so i was just at barnes and noble...i want this book on modern recording techniques:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Modern-Recording-Techniques/David-Miles-Huber/e/9780240810690/?itm=1&USRI=modern+recording+techniques

its &44 mother fucking dollars!@!!!!!! ass fuck that!

so can i just walk in with a backpack and "throw it in the bag" or is that not smart? oh and for barcodes...those DONT set off alarms right? cuz my buddy thinks they do and he was flippin dicks the other day at wal mart cuz this knife had just a barcode...nothing else...just that little sticker thing and so he left it....thanks.

Is it a hard back? i've seen them in the spine...also sometimes they use flat EAS under a bar code sticker...so the bar code is a sticker i would peel it up and make sure. another way is to sit down read it and take a highlighter to some pages and mark a few things out then if they do stop you they will see that and think it was yours

313
10-21-2009, 12:30 AM
Is it a hard back? i've seen them in the spine...also sometimes they use flat EAS under a bar code sticker...so the bar code is a sticker i would peel it up and make sure. another way is to sit down read it and take a highlighter to some pages and mark a few things out then if they do stop you they will see that and think it was yours

its a paperback...thats why i dont expect it to have any EAS sticker things on it.

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 12:57 AM
its a paperback...thats why i dont expect it to have any EAS sticker things on it.

it probably won't but just in case make sure there are no stickers of any kind of on it and you should be good

313
10-21-2009, 01:17 AM
it probably won't but just in case make sure there are no stickers of any kind of on it and you should be good

aright, cool. i will try this backpack method asap...i dont go there very often so ill try to remember next time i go, and ill post results once i do...

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 01:34 AM
got the Wii was going to get another but when i got back for second one the walmart guy was locking the spider wrap back onto to it and i didn't want to chance them seeing me unlock it a second time, i tried to shove it back against shelf so it looked like it was still locked but guess he noticed it, i should of just grabbed the both and hid one on another isle till i got back...jesus i hate hind site lol oh well. anyways i'll go back in a day or 2 and see if they are still out if so i'll try for another one oh and i got a bag of M&M's lol i was hungery

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 01:42 AM
idk.. sounds like someone was bein watched...

nah if i was being watched they would of got me when i came back for the second one he didn't even look at me suspiciously i think he just thought 1 of the workers left it unlocked by accident.

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 01:43 AM
wish they would put some ps3's out like that lol i'd love to get one for my sons christmas...tired of him always on mine lol

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 01:47 AM
true...

wut do u think of that tazer idea?

well in texas if ya did that you would be charged *no pun intended* with aggravated assault or aggravated robbery so not sure i would do that...

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 01:52 AM
*cough*gethimanxbox.

7 out of 10 of his friends got an xbox. better online community.

hell no Xbox sucks ass i sold mine after a month and got PS3 games are better and i after i put Linux on it works great as PC too, plus bonus its a blu-ray player too and most important the controllers to the xbox are to fuckin big. not to mention the Xbox has a bad history of quitting or getting red eyed. and i don't give a rats ass about online community oh and PS3 online stuff is free i don't have to pay for it like Xbox live or Wii

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 01:57 AM
u'd get away tho... nobody gonna tackle a guy with a tazer...
you may get away but if you did get caught you could still be charged for it even if you didn't use it....and i damn sure wouldn't wana chance it in Texas...for 1 fact if something happens and u did use it , and lets say the guy died....1 fact about Texas =) We have the Death penalty and WE USE IT lol alot....Texas executes more people ever year than all other states combined.

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 02:04 AM
thats funny too lol texas law says the person has to be in your house or brandishing a weapon for you to shoot other wise you can be charged for murder which is crazy

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 02:11 AM
drop the tazer while runnin. he'll pick it up. weapon.

lol in a perfect world that might work hehe

Starvin
10-21-2009, 02:28 AM
XDDD That is amazing..

And yeah, I'll go with the PS3. I like CoD4's online community. They hate me less when I snipe them from afar, and find out a girl did it, than Xbox. :3 ~Snickers..~

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 02:37 AM
XDDD That is amazing..

And yeah, I'll go with the PS3. I like CoD4's online community. They hate me less when I snipe them from afar, and find out a girl did it, than Xbox. :3 ~Snickers..~

lol

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 02:41 AM
oops i left my s3 key in pants wife found it doing laundry hehe asked what it was told her it was tool for removing car stereo's i needed to remove my friends stereo i was working on today lol

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 02:57 AM
u better hope she dont look it up :rolleyes:

it doesn't have any labels on it for her to look up so i'm good lol

Starvin
10-21-2009, 03:08 AM
Dude, never let her find your tools~.

So, my bf just broke up with me. u-u;

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 03:13 AM
Dude, never let her find your tools~.

So, my bf just broke up with me. u-u;
well if my wife finds out what i do for a living and splits wana hook up ? lol

Starvin
10-21-2009, 03:29 AM
XD I think you are too old for me, m'dear. Thanks for makin' me laugh, though.

Thank god he was just an online bf... > A>

Now; How to safely lift some ice cream, 'cause I don't have a big bag, and am very sure I can't shove a container up my sleeve...? XD

TexasLifter
10-21-2009, 03:30 AM
XD I think you are too old for me, m'dear. Thanks for makin' me laugh, though.

Thank god he was just an online bf... > A>

Now; How to safely lift some ice cream, 'cause I don't have a big bag, and am very sure I can't shove a container up my sleeve...? XD

sent ya a PM

313
10-21-2009, 03:31 AM
XD I think you are too old for me, m'dear. Thanks for makin' me laugh, though.

Thank god he was just an online bf... > A>

Now; How to safely lift some ice cream, 'cause I don't have a big bag, and am very sure I can't shove a container up my sleeve...? XD

just grab it and walk out...idk...seems easy enough to me...somebody mentioned something about those "green" bags...just get some, put in cart, load up bags, walk out with cart FTW!

mdbm88
10-21-2009, 04:45 AM
:facepalm:

no. order a custom stamp online ~$10. make it say something like the local library. ex: west beach public library.

stamp the book, its not theirs :D

yea that will fucking a crisp as book from the library with a stamp. idk bout you but any book i get from the library is wore the fuck out.

mdbm88
10-21-2009, 05:47 AM
Where the fuck do you live? the ghetto? Libraries buy new books...

where the fuck do you live where library books are band fuckin new. your 15 so thats high school and when i was in high school best believe the library books there where not crisp fuckin new. they had dog eared corners and signs of "hey im not new". and that goes for public libraries too.

Starvin
10-21-2009, 06:10 AM
My libraries had new books. Even the ones when I was living in Downtown STL. Your library must suck.

Starvin
10-21-2009, 06:21 AM
Um, someone labeled Retail Security LLC is adding me... Should I be worried/block them, or are one of you messing with me?

313
10-21-2009, 08:27 PM
block NAO!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Starvin
10-21-2009, 09:35 PM
block NAO!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nevermind, I had been told in a PM who it was. As far as I can tell, that user is safe. XD

313
10-21-2009, 10:22 PM
ok i am very mad...i went through a shit load of trouble trying to steal these new earbuds from target...the skull candy titans...they just came out recently and i was the first to have them...thats beside the point...so, i was at this thing the other night, and im pretty sure i left my earbuds there...FUCK! called the girl in charge there, ssaid they aint find shit...GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok so i went through a shitload of nerve wracking moments just for earbuds that i only had for two fucking weeks?!
so heres how i stole them....i want advice so that i can get these easier this next time...
so, i went to target, grabbed them off the shelf, walked to clothes, grabbed pants, shoved earbud package in pocket, grabbed knife outta my pants, shucked as much of the package open as i could but i felt like that this method wasnt working...so, i went in the dressing room (Anonymous, i know man, this isnt what youre supposed to do but im a n00b...) and opened in there...

i couldnt find one god damn blind spot that didnt have an ass load of people there...im assuming that blind spots vary by store...but do you guys have info on them at target? like wheres the best spot?
and should i do box stuffing this time?
if so, explain in FULL DETAIL!

Starvin
10-21-2009, 10:30 PM
OHOHOH. Go to page 6! There is a FULL-OUT security detail guide on Target. I bookmarked it before I even made my account here.

Quick Link;
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=702&page=6

Edit;
SWEET, I can thank people now. :3

313
10-21-2009, 10:36 PM
thanks a shit fucking ass load starvin...i need my music!!!!!!!!!

im fucking going fucked up crazy nigger without it!!!!!!
:rant:

m.060.mm
10-21-2009, 11:53 PM
Aright this is going to sound ridiculous. Let me preface it with the fact that I'm not some eighteen year old kid - when I was eighteen I could look normal carrying a backpack and that would be that - stuff it in the bag.

Now that carrying a bag full of 'books' looks a bit suspicious, Im struggling to find an alternate way. What do yall do? I'd say the majority of the time Im shopping for clothes so that's what I what I'd like an answer to most.

(Ive tried wearing clothes under my clothes. Even two extra shirts or a pair of pants under an already worn pair is noticeable)

Oh and why aren't you supposed to go in the dressing room? Maybe if you aren't bringing clothes in with you haha but otherwise, why not? 313 mentioned it a minute ago basically saying Anonymous told him not to..?

I'm impressed by the way - yall seem to have your shit together far more than Totse used to. So I joined. Hi.

313
10-22-2009, 12:01 AM
Aright this is going to sound ridiculous. Let me preface it with the fact that I'm not some eighteen year old kid - when I was eighteen I could look normal carrying a backpack and that would be that - stuff it in the bag.

Now that carrying a bag full of 'books' looks a bit suspicious, Im struggling to find an alternate way. What do yall do? I'd say the majority of the time Im shopping for clothes so that's what I what I'd like an answer to most.

(Ive tried wearing clothes under my clothes. Even two extra shirts or a pair of pants under an already worn pair is noticeable)

Oh and why aren't you supposed to go in the dressing room? Maybe if you aren't bringing clothes in with you haha but otherwise, why not? 313 mentioned it a minute ago basically saying Anonymous told him not to..?

I'm impressed by the way - yall seem to have your shit together far more than Totse used to. So I joined. Hi.

Hi...yea im just going to bring a backpack with me next time and then make some tears, highlight shit, etc. to make it look like its mine...and about the dressing rooms...i honestly do not know why you dont go in the fitting rooms...Anonymous, do you care to tackle this one?
i just dont do it anymore because ive heard from many people that you shouldnt...idk really.

TexasLifter
10-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Aright this is going to sound ridiculous. Let me preface it with the fact that I'm not some eighteen year old kid - when I was eighteen I could look normal carrying a backpack and that would be that - stuff it in the bag.
Now that carrying a bag full of 'books' looks a bit suspicious, Im struggling to find an alternate way. What do yall do? I'd say the majority of the time Im shopping for clothes so that's what I what I'd like an answer to most.
(Ive tried wearing clothes under my clothes. Even two extra shirts or a pair of pants under an already worn pair is noticeable)
Oh and why aren't you supposed to go in the dressing room? Maybe if you aren't bringing clothes in with you haha but otherwise, why not? 313 mentioned it a minute ago basically saying Anonymous told him not to..?
I'm impressed by the way - yall seem to have your shit together far more than Totse used to. So I joined. Hi.

I believe he says don't go into restrooms not fitting rooms. fitting rooms are far safer than bathrooms just put the item inside the clothes go in fitting room quietly remove it from package and stash it. as far as clothes go wear something a size or 2 bigger than your size to make concealing other clothes under them easier. baggy clothes are still pretty much in so you shouldn't get a second look. just remember if your taking clothes take SEVERAL items into the room with you don't go in with 1 pair of pants and come out with them on and nothing in your hand. =) 1 of the main reasons why not to go to the restroom is alot of them have sensors now by the doorway to restrooms...not always obvious either they are hiding them inside the wall's now. hope this helps

313
10-22-2009, 12:23 AM
I believe he says don't go into restrooms not fitting rooms. fitting rooms are far safer than bathrooms just put the item inside the clothes go in fitting room quietly remove it from package and stash it. as far as clothes go wear something a size or 2 bigger than your size to make concealing other clothes under them easier. baggy clothes are still pretty much in so you shouldn't get a second look. just remember if your taking clothes take SEVERAL items into the room with you don't go in with 1 pair of pants and come out with them on and nothing in your hand. =) 1 of the main reasons why not to go to the restroom is alot of them have sensors now by the doorway to restrooms...not always obvious either they are hiding them inside the wall's now. hope this helps

thanks for the info on the bathrooms...i will continue going into the fitting rooms with my technique...hey tex, ima try the box stuffing prolly next weekend...tips?