"Everyone's Entitled To An Opinion"

[Dog]

I recently registered on another forum and promptly started calling the idiots idiots when they expressed idiotic opinions. Although I haven't been banned yet, I've been warned several times, and not without also being reminded that I "can't attack people for having a different opinion," and how "everyone's entitled to an opinion."

Fuck that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but how the hell do people take that to mean that their opinion can't be fucking stupid? (Though more accurately, usually the opinion is simply strange, and it's the result of a stupid person) More people need to be told just how fucking stupid their thoughts are, and then maybe I wouldn't have to put my face in my palm 50% of the time someone opens their mouth.

Another thing: Stupid people don't seem to see the difference between attacking a stupid opinion (ie. irrational, uninformed) and attacking a different opinion. I don't have a problem with different opinions if they're reasonable. If they're unreasonable, then it's dumbass-naming time.

Who's with me? Do you guys every find yourselves being outcast from other forums for being too aggressive when idiots say something stupid? :mad:

[Mantikore]

they dont understand that everyone is also entitled to criticize the opinions of others.

people are like that

[Lao Tzu]

I think that people having a right to an opinion of an opinion is important.
Punishing people for saying that someone else's opinion is stupid, reasoning that "everyone's entitled to an opinion", is self-contradictory. Nobody who thinks that way should be a mod.

[Curb Stomp]

People generally get offended when they find out that the majority of people around them think they're moronic. I personally dont think there is anything wrong with telling someone how idiotic they are as long as you have a valid argument or it is just undeniable beyond reason.

[Dog]

It seems like all of the opinionated morons out there latched onto what their 5th grade teacher told them without ever really understanding what it meant. When Ms. Applebottom told them that "No opinion can be wrong", she forgot to explain that she was talking about opinions like "Red is better than blue."

Goddamn you, Ms. Applebottom!

[Irukanji]

Contradictory lol....

You flaming/calling them stupid, etc is your opinion of their idiocity.

[Iehovah]

Solution: Attack the opinion, rather than the person generating it, and make it clear that this is what you are doing. If the moderators of that forum really can't tell the difference after that, you're wasting your time being there.

In short, tell them their opinion is stupid and why. Flaming isn't constructive, and just makes you look like the bad guy.

[xilikeeggs0]

So others are allowed to have/express their opinions, but you're not?

[Iehovah]

So others are allowed to have/express their opinions, but you're not?

Apparently so. When dealing with unreasonable mods, change your tactics.

[NamelessNom4d]

What is the name of this forum so we can attack with an influx of opinionated views?

:mad:

[Lao Tzu]

What is the name of this forum so we can attack with an influx of opinionated views?

:mad:

this! I want somewhere to troll

[Iehovah]

What is the name of this forum so we can attack with an influx of opinionated views?

:mad:

Totse.

Sic 'em!

[whimsi]

I also absolutely love how people hide behind the "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" when factual incorrectness is involved.

Call someone out on being a douche who needs to get their facts straight, and they start going off on you for not respecting their opinion.

Anyway, an opinion can be retarded, and you should be told if it is!

[johnplywd]

Lets get to the meat of the subject OP. Which forum were you in? We all know that some forums are more serious than others and undue flaming is not allowed in them. So which forum was it

[Dog]

It was a gay buttseks forum, of course.

[Cegstar]

Some forums cater to a younger audience, and some take what they say more seriously.

Sadly, I think I'm harsher in real life then I am online. I'm not very harsh online at all.

[Shulgin]

It's just another way to pacify and limit free speech. The moderators also feel morally superior for allowing everyone their own opinion, even the retarded, ignorant ones. But if you are politically incorrect enough, you get banned. They get off on the power play.

Also, simpletons tend to never realize they are simpletons, good luck trying to enlighten them.

[driveby]

That's why this fucking site is so great, OP.

Stupid people are not entitled to their own opinion. They should be used as sex slaves, or killed off.

[Dog]

That's why this fucking site is so great, OP.



Yeah. You don't really realize how free you are on Totse/Zoklet until you post somewhere else.

[johnplywd]

where else would one post?

[LSA King]

There once was a time on the internet where harrassment didn't exist...this feels like such a long long time ago. Calling people out for wrong behavior and explaining WHY should not be taken as offensive but rather enlightening. Now if you are found completly absurd then your fucked. Thats just my opinion. Just make sure your right if your going to call someone out.

[Iehovah]

There once was a time on the internet where harrassment didn't exist...this feels like such a long long time ago. Calling people out for wrong behavior and explaining WHY should not be taken as offensive but rather enlightening. Now if you are found completly absurd then your fucked. Thats just my opinion. Just make sure your right if your going to call someone out.

Is this some secret, private internet you're talking about? Because that's some, rose-colored glasses touched up with LSD, that you're looking at the past through.

[LSA King]

Is this some secret, private internet you're talking about? Because that's some, rose-colored glasses touched up with LSD, that you're looking at the past through.



I'm talking more then 5 years past. The only thing you really got banned for ever was for spamming which was a huge problem. Forum software has come a long way back then they had to judge each individual seperately there were no warning/infraction systems. When you had much less forums 5-10 years ago but huge membership database your case rarely got served since mods were always backed up.


Times have changed on the forum front there is alot more options that were not available many years ago.

[Iehovah]

I'm talking more then 5 years past. The only thing you really got banned for ever was for spamming which was a huge problem. Forum software has come a long way back then they had to judge each individual seperately there were no warning/infraction systems. When you had much less forums 5-10 years ago but huge membership database your case rarely got served since mods were always backed up.

Times have changed on the forum front there is alot more options that were not available many years ago.

Are you talking about Totse? Because every single forum/IRC I've been on in the last 13+ years has had a ban/kick/lockout feature and rules to go with them.

[Dog]

You know what was ironic? How you could get kicked/banned from servers for violent video games just for swearing. Like, Counter-strike, you spend your time shotgunning people in the face, but saying "fuck" is out of line.

Some people have fucked up values.

[LSA King]

Are you talking about Totse? Because every single forum/IRC I've been on in the last 13+ years has had a ban/kick/lockout feature and rules to go with them.




Well perhaps we were on different sides of the internet world then. IRC always has been a hard knock world because its been around a decade prior to forums we see as it is now. Not totse though other places before I ever heard of totse.


People got away with swearing, racial remarks and personal attacks all the time. Of course you had that one guy who might be a prick and actually enforce the rules but where I was going that was rare. It wasn't until I left forums for IRC for a couple years and returned that I noticed things started getting more organized and more professional, probably due to the rapid expansion of the internet to consumers in the late 90's.

[Ambient]

You know what was ironic? How you could get kicked/banned from servers for violent video games just for swearing. Like, Counter-strike, you spend your time shotgunning people in the face, but saying "fuck" is out of line.

Some people have fucked up values.

Dude; that is an excellent point.

Almost all computer games revolve around violence/death ultimately yet most of the online ones are keen censor everything

for example a game called "knight online" you cannot say "Jew" even though this is not derogatory, and you cannot say "K2" the name of the network company running it!

[Nightshade]

My mantra is everyone is entitled to their opinion but at the same time everyone is entitled to challenge said opinions.

It's what debate is all about really.