Outdoor essentials

[ArmsMerchant]

The question always comes up--"What should I take with me on my hunting/camping/backpacking trip?"

So, experienced ones--share your experience. What do you ALWAYS take? And do be serious--this is a troll-free zone.

(Thanks to Metafire for the suggestion.)

[Flex Rigid]

It depends on where you`re going. I can`t think of a situation where a rope, tarp and knife wouldn`t be useful though.

[Stock Market Anomalies]

toilet paper nigga

[T.K. Baha]

When I camp I'm not into the whole minimalist survival trip. I usually bring a tent, sleeping bag, big bottle of liquor, some pot, plenty of cigarettes, a guitar, bacon, beef, bread, water, a flashlight, guitar, some friends and sometimes a cooler or some acid.

[Monkmaster]

My basic kit includes an intermediate first aid kit, two boxes of waterproof matches, one box of strike-anywhere matches, a heavy duty garbage bag, a space blanket, a few metres of cord/light rope, a can of pasta, a 1 litre bottle of water and a sturdy camp knife.

It's actually been awhile since I inspected my kit... I ought to go over what I have, what needs to be changed and what I may further need.

Edit: OH YEAH, A BIG BAG OF DOPE :facepalm:

[Kow]

A large bag of cannabis if nothing else.

Oh, and a solar-powered water still. Lets you purify water while on the move and without fire.

[mr.blunt]

- A good sturdy knife. And not one with any of that bullshit serrated teeth on the top of the blade. If it has any, the teeth need to be on the blade part of it. Like so:

http://www.armynavyshop.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/3326.jpg

Personally, I hold my knife with my thumb on the back of the blade pretty often when I'm carving or using it outdoors, so the teeth really hinder that.

- Pack of homemade waterproof, strike anywhere matches. To do this is pretty simple. Take a box of regular, strike anywhere matches (Redbird matches own all others), and melt some candle wax. Dip the tips of the matches in the wax and let them dry. When you need to use them, softly scrape the wax off with your thumbnail without damaging the match head.

- A hand cranked, LED flashlight. The one I have is fucking amazing. It's got the power of LED lights so it's way brighter than you'd ever realistically need, and you can recharge it just by shaking the thing. Plus I've dropped it in lakes, mud, etc. and it's still trucking.

Very similar to this:

http://www.chinatraderonline.com/Files/flashlights/forever-flashlight/Eternity-Flashlight-Hand-shaking-Forever-Flashlight-00080675559.jpg

- A nalgene 1 litre water bottle (ah well, screw the cancer. I've been usuing nalgene for years, they've done me well.) and an iodine water purifying kit. Pretty self explanatory.

Not everything I bring, I just wrote this up quick before dinner. I'll post more later as I remember them/have time to.

[Son of Liberty]

For pretty much any temperate forest in North America, I'd say the following would allow one to survive for Loooooong time:

Good fitting, climate-appropriate boots are a necessity, but assuming any hiker would have these...

1) Proper clothing is by far and away the most essential "item" or "system" one needs in the outdoors. Hi-tech synthetics are really a must if you're gonna be out for more than an overnight; wool can be used as a substitute for a few layers. Goretex pants & jacket, 2+ pairs of smart wool socks, athletic shorts, underwear, long underwear, t-shirt, midlayer, decent jacket, and a beanie.

2) 1 liter Nalgene + Canteen cup that fits snugly around the nalgene.

3) Two bic lighters. This beats out pretty much any other fire system I know of, especially if you keep one in a plastic baggy as an emergency backup.

4) Pocket knife, preferably with a saw blade (so - a leatherman, really). The saw is a major time saver for building traps. Everything seen on TV aside, I've never felt a pocket knife was inadequate.

5) Aquamira water purification system, which is just two little bottles duct taped together (by you), the tape can be reused as seen fit. Has no taste unlike iodine.

6) a basic pack to carry your shit. With these few items, even a small Northface bookbag would be adequate.

7) 550 paracord

EDIT: good gators (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://image48.webshots.com/48/2/99/41/387529941QuiebU_fs.jpg&imgrefurl=http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1387529941073616853QuiebU&usg=__PYN9MS--ZglS44-UMS23dS8GoD0=&h=1728&w=2304&sz=865&hl=en&start=1&sig2=dut7-32WLlpzPmWg7xD5Zg&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=oBbCa4CYJgrF_M:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgators%2Bhiking%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dof f%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=IwMwS9yhMZGUlAeQkZyeBw) are EXTREMELY helpful to have

with these few items and a moderate knowledge of wilderness survival (shelter and fire craft), most people would be fine for over a week.

Additional helpful items:

.22 survival gun, for small game
a tarp
sleeping bag + bedroll
spoon or spork
liquid bandaid
sun screen
head net
a hat
a watch, preferably analog
a headlamp


this last summer, I lived in the North Cascades for a month with the above mentioned items
minus the .22 and tarp
plus food, a tent, camp stove & fuel, map and compass, and identically outfitted friends (who helped carry the tent, food, and fuel)

[Xlite]

My basic kit is my leatherman, an emergency heat blanket, and a bottle.
The nature proves building materiels like robe, glue, and wood.

I can make it with this alone if i'm stuck in a forrest with decent wildlife, -5 to 35c' ish.

Usually though, i bring alot more.

[backseat footjob]

right now the inside of my daypack bag is looking like this: Evo backpacking hammock,about 30ft of climbing strap,30 ft of polyester cord,30ft of twine,two headlamps(one princeton tec,one Petzl) A pair of gators, CS teargas/pepperspray mace,6 caribiners,2 beanies, rain jacket,wind breaker,fleece, sponge, and a bag filled with different kinds of baggies for keeping things dry, Along with a bowl, small first aid kit,and some flint.(for my trek backpack add tent,stove,sleepingbag etc.)
What i wear on me: a 5 inch gerber, and a 3inch gerber,garmin etrex h GPS,3 ft of cord on each wrist,and a couple of lighters in my pockets.
I have also found that carrharts work better in the woods then any jean ever could, although goretex still conquers for pantwise.

Also did you know that fritos, or cornchips work great for fire starters?

[SHARP]

Hmm, after having read the previous replies, I get the feeling I haul a lot more stuff along than anyone else...
Think I'll make a thorough run-down, starting with clothing.

Standard footwear in my case consists of one pair of good boots, and I can't stand those fancy hiking boots that doesn't really support your ankle, I use a pair of no-name leather/cordura boots extended with the shafts from a pair of good ol DK leather army boots, and a couple of foam inner soles.
Some might say -"why on earth would you carry all that? get a pair of high tech super-duper Goretex/Sympatex boots that weighs 1/5th!" but I've been wearing nothing but all leather army boots on a daily basis from I was 13 till I was around 18, and for the last 14 years my preferred everyday footwear has been heavy steel toed boots complete with nail guard and all, so I don't really feel comfortable in something I can't feel, I feel like I'm not in contact with the ground, so even though my boots are twice as heavy as what most other hikers wear, they're still a good deal lighter than what I wear daily.

In any case, good boots are without a doubt an outdoor essential, whatever your personal preferences might be as to height, sole, weight, and so on, they should fit.
Expect to spend a week or three breakin' your boots in, before you take them (and your feet) to the test.

As for pants, for many years I've used a pair of OD, army issue "pants/armored/for crappy weather conditions", or something along those lines...
I have no fucking idea where they're from, they appear to be U.S. surplus something, I think it's moleskin as they're really thick, and they have served me very well. I can't find anything that can tell me exactly what they are, but I'll be happy to post a pic if any of you guys out there have a knack for ID'ing outdated military clothing.
Oh well, as of this writing, I'm putting the finishing touches on a pair of custom made pants as I wasn't really too satisfied with what I could get of pants made specifically for hiking/camping/climbing etc., or what I could find that was commonly used by the military.
So I made a pair of pants that can best be described as a heavily reinforced bastard between BDU pants and construction/cargo pants, made out of tent canvas.

Whatever you prefer pants-wise, in my opinion your pants are as important as your boots, personally I'll happily accept heavier gear for better protection, but I can understand if others might not share my views.
Depending on where you go, my standard clothing might not be a good idea, a long but exhausting walk with a lot of ups and downs demands a different dress than a hike that includes machete work and rappelling.
Of course you can't plan everything in advance, and bring what'd be best for the job at hand, but the way I see it is that if I plan for the worst possible and dress like it, I won't be worse off when something unforeseen happens.

As for a jacket, I use yet another no-name. Originally it was a long jacket probably meant for the average Joe going on a fishing trip to the nearby lake, but I modded it to look more like a fly fishers jacket as I folded up the bottom part and secured it with Velcro on the inside. It's always nice to be able to extend your jacket another foot down from the waist when the wind picks up.
There's already reinforcements on the elbows and shoulders, and Velcro straps on the cuffs, but I think I'm going to add a bit more reinforcements and Velcro for good measure, there's a good deal of pockets inside as well as on the outside, so I don't think I need to do anything in that respect. It came with a hood on, and of course I let it stay on.

This is where I should add I also bring a good hoodie, as well as thermo underwear, but I've never had use for the latter.

Whether you prefer to change clothes to adapt to the current circumstances/temperature/and so on, or you're more like me who prefers to button up or down when needed but otherwise wear clothes you know can take a beating, your jacket should be considered just as important as your boots and your pants.

As for what head gear I use, the first is a regular OD boonie; it's such a friggin' good invention that not wearing it would be a shame, and pretty stupid to boot, at least where I go. Mine is a size too big on purpose to better facilitate airflow on those hot summer days.
Second comes a net scarf that I use as bandanna when it's really hot as you'll still get some air to your scalp, but' it'll soak the sweat as well, or as a regular scarf when the night comes. Besides that, it's a fairly good mosquito net if draped over your boonie and stuffed down your jacket collar.
The last is a thin cotton balaclava, rolled up it'll keep your head warm if worn under your boonie (another reason to get a boonie a size or two too big), and if pulled down over your face, it'll keep that ugly mug of yours warm as well, and it doesn't really weigh anything and can easily be stuffed in a back pocket.

Besides the already mentioned, I'll carry a few T-shirts, plenty of boxers and socks, including a thick woolen pair, and a button down shirt.

As I only have access to temperate climates, naturally my clothing reflects that, and I'm not saying my experiences are useful to everyone, but if you hike in an area where the temperature can go from 30-35 °C during the day, to around 10 °C during the night (remember to include windchill), perhaps you can use some of this.

I know most of you people have already spent enough time outside to know what you're doing and what's working for you, so I'm not second guessing anyone; it's a post for the noobs who might not know where to start and what to consider...

With the clothing over with, I should probably write something about personal equipment and tools, but that'll have to wait a bit..

PS:All my clothing and gear is in subdued colors, mainly just OD as actual cammo is a bit much, I think...

The point is that "the less notice nature takes of you, the more of nature you'll get to see", if that makes any sense, I'm kind of drunk...

Great thread by the way.

[backseat footjob]

Standard footwear in my case consists of one pair of good boots, and I can't stand those fancy hiking boots that doesn't really support your ankle, I use a pair of no-name leather/cordura boots extended with the shafts from a pair of good ol DK leather army boots, and a couple of foam inner soles.
Some might say -"why on earth would you carry all that? get a pair of high tech super-duper Goretex/Sympatex boots that weighs 1/5th!" but I've been wearing nothing but all leather army boots on a daily basis from I was 13 till I was around 18, and for the last 14 years my preferred everyday footwear has been heavy steel toed boots complete with nail guard and all, so I don't really feel comfortable in something I can't feel, I feel like I'm not in contact with the ground, so even though my boots are twice as heavy as what most other hikers wear, they're still a good deal lighter than what I wear daily.


I agree a hundred percent, i myself rock a pair of steel toed work/hike boots that are heavy, but the feeling of them,and there durability(lasted 3 years so far) have made me unable to switch to any new lightwieght boot, they just feel like tennis shoes to me.

[SHARP]

^^Yup, know the feeling, it feels strange to wear soft soled lightweighters, you can feel each and every pebble you step on and it feels like they could easily penetrate the sole, and besides, my feet would be killing me after a day on soft soles, and without the ankle support I'm used to.

[SHARP]

As for what other stuff I bring along on a camping trip...

The tools I bring usually consists of a multi tool, a mini E-tool, a hunting knife, a folder, and a machete.

Here's a pic of the blades:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/KNIVES.jpg

Since the pic was taken I've added a folding saw I got from a mate; a machete and a saw like the one he gave me is in my nowhere nearly humble opinion a must if you're staying out for more than a day, the combination of those two tools enables you construct just about anything you need, and getting large amounts firewood in no time.

As for rope and such, I always bring a roll of strong sewing thread (OD) and a couple of sewing needles (they're in a plastic container I made on my lathe, it's waterproof, and can double as a fishing float), two lengths of nylon rope that's always hanging from the shoulder straps on my backpack so there's something to grab on to, to get my hands elevated and to serve as emergency straps if something breaks. They're about 3 meters long each, and gray.
I also bring a good deal of Fireline, it's a braided fishing line and quite strong - it's only 0.2 mm thick but has a breaking point of 10.6 kg and it's gray and impossible to spot so it's pretty damn effective when used as a tripwire for a trap or alarm.
On the sheath for my hunting knife I keep couple of meters of OD nylon string, it's not as strong as paracord, but close. It doesn't have a specific purpose, but it's always nice to have a little extra.
If I plan on climbing and/or rappelling I'll bring my climbing rope (and harness, carbines, figure-8 and descender), well, technically it isn't a climbing rope but a rappelling rope as it's static and not dynamic, but it get's the job done and I hate rappelling on a dynamic rope. It's black, 11 mm thick, 30 m long and has a breaking strength of 2 tons if memory serves.
Then I bring 2, 15 m Mammut cords with a breaking strength of 180 kg and 380 kg respectively, both have been supplied with a OD sheath as one is originally red, the other orange. I mostly use them for climbing and such.
I also bring 2 X 15 m OD/green nylon cords with a breaking strength around 50 kg or so, for the odd job when something needs lashing together.
I'm not sure everyone would consider all of that "essentials", but I think it's nice to have...

My sleeping gear consists of a sleeping bag that can be opened up to form a blanket, a 1 X 0.5 m foam sheet to keep my ass warm, a hammock with built-in mosquito netting, and a quarter shelter to keep me dry.
If it wasn't friggin' cold where I live 3/4 of the year, I'd be sleeping in it outside every night, sleeping in a hammock rules as it keeps you off the ground, you don't have to worry about ants and shit, and even if you only have a poncho and not a larger quarter shelter like the one I use, you'll stay dry.

Closed, opened, and covered:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCLOSED.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKOPEN.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCOVERED.jpg

EDIT: The hammock is modified by replacing the string that held the mosquito net with an elastic to prevent damage to the net in case I roll over the side in my drunken stupor, and when the hammock is not in use it's covered by two tubes of waterproof fabric ("snake skins") that can be slid up to the anchor points to open up the hammock, during transport it's closed up, folded over a couple of times, and strapped to the outside of my backpack.
The bloody ingenious thing about them snake skins, is that you can put up your hammock when it's pouring down, then set up your cover, and open up your nice and dry little home.:)

[backseat footjob]

My sleeping gear consists of a sleeping bag that can be opened up to form a blanket, a 1 X 0.5 m foam sheet to keep my ass warm, a hammock with built-in mosquito netting, and a quarter shelter to keep my dry.
If it wasn't friggin' cold where I live 3/4 of the year, I'd be sleeping in it outside every night, sleeping in a hammock rules as it keeps you off the ground, you don't have to worry about ants and shit, and even if you only have a poncho and not a larger quarter shelter like the one I use, you'll stay dry.

Closed, opened, and covered:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCLOSED.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKOPEN.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCOVERED.jpg

EDIT: The hammock is modified by replacing the string that held the mosquito net with an elastic to prevent damage to the net in case I roll over the side in my drunken stupor, and when the hammock is not in use it's covered by two tubes of waterproof fabric ("snake skins") that can be slid up to the anchor points to open up the hammock, during transport it's closed up, folded over a couple of times, and strapped to the outside of my backpack.
The bloody ingenious thing about them snake skins, is that you can put up your hammock when it's pouring down, then set up your cover, and open up your nice and dry little home.:)

Nice, that is exactly the same way i set up my hammock for overnight/rain. You cant beat the hammock living:thumbsup: , I never pass down a nice lay in a hammock.
What brand is yours? and how much did you pick it up for?
Also what do you use as rope too hold your hammock up.(if any, as i notice that you have some built in, do you use any additional line?)
Right now im using climbing strap and i like that plenty.
I hear that amsteel blue is the best way to go, i guess the cord size holds like a 1000 lbs.

[whocares123]

My sleeping gear consists of a sleeping bag that can be opened up to form a blanket, a 1 X 0.5 m foam sheet to keep my ass warm, a hammock with built-in mosquito netting, and a quarter shelter to keep my dry.
If it wasn't friggin' cold where I live 3/4 of the year, I'd be sleeping in it outside every night, sleeping in a hammock rules as it keeps you off the ground, you don't have to worry about ants and shit, and even if you only have a poncho and not a larger quarter shelter like the one I use, you'll stay dry.

Closed, opened, and covered:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCLOSED.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKOPEN.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCOVERED.jpg

EDIT: The hammock is modified by replacing the string that held the mosquito net with an elastic to prevent damage to the net in case I roll over the side in my drunken stupor, and when the hammock is not in use it's covered by two tubes of waterproof fabric ("snake skins") that can be slid up to the anchor points to open up the hammock, during transport it's closed up, folded over a couple of times, and strapped to the outside of my backpack.
The bloody ingenious thing about them snake skins, is that you can put up your hammock when it's pouring down, then set up your cover, and open up your nice and dry little home.:)

not that i'm a big outdoorsman, but i've never seen a setup like that before. looking at it i guess it makes perfect sense.

does look a little...claustrophobic.

[mr.blunt]

My sleeping gear consists of a sleeping bag that can be opened up to form a blanket, a 1 X 0.5 m foam sheet to keep my ass warm, a hammock with built-in mosquito netting, and a quarter shelter to keep my dry.
If it wasn't friggin' cold where I live 3/4 of the year, I'd be sleeping in it outside every night, sleeping in a hammock rules as it keeps you off the ground, you don't have to worry about ants and shit, and even if you only have a poncho and not a larger quarter shelter like the one I use, you'll stay dry.

Closed, opened, and covered:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCLOSED.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKOPEN.jpghttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCKCOVERED.jpg

EDIT: The hammock is modified by replacing the string that held the mosquito net with an elastic to prevent damage to the net in case I roll over the side in my drunken stupor, and when the hammock is not in use it's covered by two tubes of waterproof fabric ("snake skins") that can be slid up to the anchor points to open up the hammock, during transport it's closed up, folded over a couple of times, and strapped to the outside of my backpack.
The bloody ingenious thing about them snake skins, is that you can put up your hammock when it's pouring down, then set up your cover, and open up your nice and dry little home.:)


That's a nice set-up man, how much did it run you? I've been thinking about getting a nice hammock, but if one that can pretty much replace a tent isn't too expensive then I might just get one of those bad boys.

[SHARP]

Nice, that is exactly the same way i set up my hammock for overnight/rain. You cant beat the hammock living:thumbsup: , I never pass down a nice lay in a hammock.

Damn straight!:D

What brand is yours?

It's an Amazonas Mosquito Traveller.

and how much did you pick it up for?

Hmm, if memory serves it cost me about 200,- DKR which converts to about 38,- USD.
The quarter shelter was from a army surplus store, but it was brand new and cost me around 57,- USD.

Also what do you use as rope too hold your hammock up.(if any, as i notice that you have some built in, do you use any additional line?)

I use a double 4mm Mammut Pro Cord at either end, it has a breaking strength of 380 kg, and I've covered it in an OD sock from a no-name paracord wannabe.
I also use treehuggers - basically just a 2 meter nylon strap with a loop at either end, this is what my lacing looks like:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/LACING.jpg

No knots or anything, very easy to untie.

Right now im using climbing strap and i like that plenty.

Yeah, I reckon that'd work just fine.

I hear that amsteel blue is the best way to go, i guess the cord size holds like a 1000 lbs.

Never heard of it, but I'll look into it, thanks.

[SHARP]

not that i'm a big outdoorsman, but i've never seen a setup like that before. looking at it i guess it makes perfect sense.

I think so too, if the wind picks up I can just close the quarter shelter completely around the hammock, there's so many possibilities I'm sure I haven't found them all yet.:)

does look a little...claustrophobic.

It isn't really, I usually keep the side of the shelter opposite the zipper in the hammock, slightly lower than the other side, that way I get somewhat "shielded" but can still see what's going on to the other side of the hammock.
On very warm days I usually take a stick and prop up under the center elastic on the lower side of the shelter, as it helps airflow under the shelter and through the hammock.
If it's pouring down, I can close the shelter completely around the hammock, and hang there like some insect wrapped in silk in a spiders web.

EDIT: Here's another pic taken a few days before the ones in my other post, it's a bit more open set up so even a claustrophobic should be able to have a good night's sleep:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Arachnoholic/bornholm/HAMMOCK1.jpg

EDIT #2: I just realized what you meant; yes, it does look a bit cramped in that other picture, but once you get in, the hammock will sag a little and everything is perfect.

[SHARP]

That's a nice set-up man,

Thanks, it took a bit of thinking up, but luckily on of my mates (Ebola, he posts here once in a while) had already done most of it, I just wanted something slightly different.

how much did it run you?

Don't remember what the sleeping bag cost me, I think it was a little more expensive than a regular woodland poncho liner as that's what it resembles the most. It's got a built-in pillow.
The sleeping mat was free as we've got shitloads of that stuff where I work, the hammock and quarter shelter was roughly 100 USD including around 12 m elastics for the cover + lines, mosquito netting, and the main lines.
It'd probably be cheaper for the same set up where you live, everything is fucking expensive over here.

I've been thinking about getting a nice hammock, but if one that can pretty much replace a tent isn't too expensive then I might just get one of those bad boys.

If you prefer to travel light, I'd definitely recommend a hammock + a dedicated cover of some sort, if you use your poncho as cover you're forced to close up the hammock (provided you've installed snake skins); ie. pack up your sleeping bag/mat, in case you need to go somewhere, and need your poncho to stay dry.

The Amazonas Mosquito Traveller is a pretty good hammock in my opinion, but as I said earlier it will really benefit from having the string for the mosquito netting replaced with an bungee. Also, I've sewn in a small pouch with a drawstring closing at either end on the inside, to keep various bits in.
There's a couple of loops inside, where the netting connects to the string that keeps it in place, if you tie a piece of para cord or similar to those, you've got two points to hang a lightweight lamp from.

As an alternative, that'll no doubt cost you more, you could also look into a Hennesey Hammock, I've heard good things about those.

EDIT: The Hammock I've got is born with a small pouch on the outside, where the entire thing fit into when it's not set up, you don't have any real use for it though if you're using snake skins...
I reckon you could just cut it off and sew it on, on the inside at one end, that's what I'd do.

[Ebola]

Guess it´s time for me to bug in here :)

I've been thinking about getting a nice hammock, but if one that can pretty much replace a tent isn't too expensive then I might just get one of those bad boys.

The thing with the Amazonas Moskito Hammock (http://www.heinnie.com/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=3943) (besides all the obvious of being a hammock) is that it has a square base shape, so even if you can´t find good trees or other mounting points, it can be set up as a normal tent with a stick/pole in each end.

The mentioned upgrades from SHARP are absolutely nessecary:
The "tree huggers"/ straps go around any tree or solid pole, without leaving any marks in the bark or otherwise damageing the tree.
The bungee cord to support the netting, also. I tried the drunken flip (feeling very cartoon like, as I flipped around and got thrown out of the hammock) breaking both mounts for the net and tearing the netting on one side.
The extra cord will allow any setup with 3.5 - 7 meters between trees (10-20ish feet) with any tree diameter up to about 1m ( 3´ )

This dude (Jeff) has a very good web page (http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGear.html) with lots of DIY plans for hammocks, backpacks and other smart things to bring, as well as the whole discussion on weight of gear. He is an "ultra lighter" (cutting off every piece of excess strap, drilling holes in his toothbrush etc.), where I personally don´t mind adding a few pounds for more durable materials and a bit more luxury (I can carry it :) ).

[scovegner]

SHARP: I've used my hammock 3 out of 4 (probably could've on the 4th but was doing other stuff at the time) seasons so far, you just need a bit more insulation on it since the sleeping bag is compressed underneath you, reducing it's effectiveness quite a lot. Get an old sleeping bag, doesn't need to be particularly thick/fancy, and string it around the outside of the hammock, find some way to clip it on nicely, then cut off any excess so it folds neatly around the edges, sew up the edges. I attached it with elastics, you'll have to mess around a bit to get the right orientation etc so it's not compressed with you inside it, but just taking that windchill off your back makes a huge difference, and the added insulation is surprisingly effective, tested it last weekend when it was no more than a couple C outside and with a couple shitty summer sleeping bags was plenty warm. You can also get a space blanket and slide it in between the outer cover and your hammock, reflects all the radiation from your body right back again, fucking toasty with it there (you will want some insulation between the space blanket and your body so if you're sleeping without a sleeping bag you might want a foam pad in there too). The advantage of this is there's no rigid parts to it, you can just put the tarp into the snakeskins to keep everything else from getting wet if it's been raining, then stuff the whole thing with sleeping bag and all into your backpack, compress down a bit and that's it.
An alternative is getting a roll of that building insulation stuff with bubblewrap and aluminium on each side, cutting it to size for your hammock and putting it inside the hammock with a sleeping pad on top of it, not tried it underneath yet but it should work pretty well.
I've got the hennessy hammock, one thing I really like about it is that it's pretty much impossible to fall out of it, both due to the shape of it and because it has side stabilisation cords that you can tie to a tree/stake down the ground. This can be done with a regular hammock too, just that it'll put quite a bit of tension on the side cords so can't really stake it to the ground, but have two cords spaced equally on diagonal corners of the hammock so it pulls it outwards.
And I do find a hammock a lot less claustrophobic than a tent as you can look out all around you and it's open, mosquito netting is nice because apart from keeping bugs out it also blocks the wind a little while still being transparent.
Also, I like to just get one of those really cheap net hammocks and string it up just underneath the hammock to put my stuff in, keeps it dry and off the ground.
My usual packing list:
hammock, sleeping pads (if any)
sleeping bag
food (usually the heaviest part of my pack)
some spare clothes (used to bring shitloads of spares but never end up using them, will bring one or two changes of clothes usually)
Headtorch, a hand torch as a backup, spare batteries
a good few lighters dispersed throughout my bag ..
Little meths stove with a small cooking pot, and methylated spirits for it
Knife, a little stab saw if I'm planning to use firewood
Small first aid kit
Water bottles and sterilisation tablets, I take them out of the original packing and put them into a little baggie, takes up less room.
Miscellaneous electronics - phone, gps, maybe a camera ..
On top of that random stuff like drugs, notebook etc etc ..

As for clothes, I'll bring a neutral coloured coat, typical 'camping store' jeans (they're actually the most durable ones, pretty nice and thick), sometimes I'll bring waterproof ones if I'm going through brush/snow .. plenty of spare layers to put on at night, thermals in the winter (even in the summer if it isn't too hot I'll wear a thermal top as it's nice for wicking the sweat away) .. some decent boots that support my ankles alright .. pretty simple really.

[scovegner]

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[SHARP]

WTF!? How did I forget to reply to this...:confused:

SHARP: I've used my hammock 3 out of 4 (probably could've on the 4th but was doing other stuff at the time) seasons so far, you just need a bit more insulation on it since the sleeping bag is compressed underneath you, reducing it's effectiveness quite a lot. Get an old sleeping bag, doesn't need to be particularly thick/fancy, and string it around the outside of the hammock, find some way to clip it on nicely, then cut off any excess so it folds neatly around the edges, sew up the edges. I attached it with elastics, you'll have to mess around a bit to get the right orientation etc so it's not compressed with you inside it, but just taking that windchill off your back makes a huge difference, and the added insulation is surprisingly effective, tested it last weekend when it was no more than a couple C outside and with a couple shitty summer sleeping bags was plenty warm.

That sounds like a pretty good idea, with the only exception that it would take up more space than the foam insulation I use.
Usually my hammock is strapped to the side of my backpack and doesn't really take up much space all in all, the foam is rolled up and strapped alongside it.
If I put in an insulating layer on the outside of my hammock I'd need to sew a couple o' new snake skins, and I doubt I could compress the new setup as easily. I don't care too much about the weight but if my pack starts hindering my movements it's simply too big I'll get an instant brain tumor the size of Alaska.
Considering the temperatures 'round here when I go camping, I don't think I'll need a secondary layer on the outside, I think the cost would outweigh the benefit, but it's still valid advice for someone not in my situation - rumor has it that climate changes depending on where on the planet you are.

You can also get a space blanket and slide it in between the outer cover and your hammock, reflects all the radiation from your body right back again, fucking toasty with it there (you will want some insulation between the space blanket and your body so if you're sleeping without a sleeping bag you might want a foam pad in there too). The advantage of this is there's no rigid parts to it, you can just put the tarp into the snakeskins to keep everything else from getting wet if it's been raining, then stuff the whole thing with sleeping bag and all into your backpack, compress down a bit and that's it.

Now we're talking, this is something I'll try, thanks for the idea.:)

An alternative is getting a roll of that building insulation stuff with bubblewrap and aluminium on each side, cutting it to size for your hammock and putting it inside the hammock with a sleeping pad on top of it, not tried it underneath yet but it should work pretty well.

Hmm, that too might be worth considering, but I get a feeling it'd take up a lot of space, I work with foam and bubblewrap daily, and so far I think I'll stick with foam and maybe try out something involving trauma blankets.

And I do find a hammock a lot less claustrophobic than a tent as you can look out all around you and it's open,

True, not being able to see what's going on around you seriously sucks ass, everything, everyone, and his retarded brother-in-law could sneak up...

Also, I like to just get one of those really cheap net hammocks and string it up just underneath the hammock to put my stuff in, keeps it dry and off the ground.

LOL, that's more or less the same we do!:lol:

[Infernus]

I always bring a big pack of paracord 550, One thousand foot pack ftw.
A Knife.
And a few ways to make fire

With just those three things you can survive almost anywhere.

Granted If i was going mountain climbing i'd bring some extra clothes :p

[Ebola]

The question always comes up--"What should I take with me on my hunting/camping/backpacking trip?"

I have changed and upgraded my gear over the last years, but I will bring the following on my next trip:
EDC (Every Day Carry) (multitool, pen´n´paper, cell, safety pins, whistle/compass, condome, tweezers, needles´n´thread, keys)
Backpack
Knife
Sleepingbag, quilt or blanket depending on season and weather.
Poncho (and/or hammock/tent depending on situation and style of trip)
Hydration (bladder and a filter if on a long trip with no possibility of resupplying)
Cooking gear (incl. seasoning and firestarting equipment)
Paracord (lotz!)
Folding saw (and a kukri if alone, otherwise my buddy brings a machete)
Map and compass
Head lamp
An extra change of clothes and two extras of underwear + extra pair of warm socks.
Sweater or fleece (depending on season)
Small survival kit (incl. fishing line´n´hooks, signal mirror, compass, deck of cards, pen´n´paper, rubberbands, string and cord, small pocket knife, step-counter, waterproof matches, 2 small parafin candles, scalpel blade, lighter, bandaids, tampoons, plastic bag and rubbermabds. All packed in a plactis box with lid (of household grade/eating grade material)).
Handcrank radio/flashlight.
Still working on my first aid kit (but it WILL include a torniquet :) )

I´m sure I forgot something and I normally also bring something for the occation (like climbing gear).
All in all I go with max. 25kg/41lbs) incl. the above with food and water as possible/needed.
I´m 197cm/6´7ish @ 90kg/182lbs and I don´t mind hauling some extra gear (in a steady pace) for added comfort or fun.
I´m fully aware of "ultra-light" hiking and tuning my equipment, but I tune it for multi-functional and durable rather than light weight. It has to not just last the trip, but many years. I´m also aware that this is way more than my basic needs to survive, but this is to the question in the OP.
If not on a trip alot of the gear is packed in my bug-out bag and I buy my gear to last for years and to be repaired easily (in case of TSHTF).

[LiquidIce]

Hai guise!!!11

Short story: me and buddy going hiking into woods in June/July in Poland (eastern part, lots of old bunkers, old shells, bones, shrapnel and cool shit).

Most of our gear is rather low-grade ie. surplus old polish/czech military gear, somethings made in china etc. however we know our way with this grade stuff and we still plan on going about 3-6 days in a fir/pine forest with moderate temps (5-30 deg. C).

First, the flashlight:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2065/100420101846.jpg
The one on the left is my Bro's standard issue military, the one on the right is the cheap knock-off, which I'll be taking. It's lighter than the military one, I reckon it's cheaper/thinner plastic, but still looks good and I'll be taking a spare flashlight anyways.

Second, the belt:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1818/100420101844.jpg
It's a nylon chinese belt thingy. It looked better in the pics :(, the belt seems sturdy enough, but I'm afraid it might let go at the seems and the pouches look like shit, let's hope it's just the way they look. In Poland I'll actually get a belt and pouch like this:
http://img08.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/992/69/42/992694205 for half the price and thrice the sturdiness.

Third, backpack:
http://www.armynavydeals.com/asp/products_details.asp?SKU=FX4287&ST=2&Dakota%20Backpack
I ordered this one, looks durable, the price ain't much and it's about the right size. I gotta look into being able to mod it to attache gear onto it, like a sleeping bag etc.

Forth, glasses:
http://www.armynavydeals.com/asp/products_details.asp?SKU=10380&catid=894&ItemName=TACTICAL%20SUNGLASS%20W/LEATHER%20TYPE%20WIND%20GUARD%20%27CE%27
Nothing fancy, but I'm keen on the scratch proof and the safety band, since I'm tired of getting sun, dust and insects into my fucking eyes.

Fifth, canteen:
http://www.armynavydeals.com/asp/products_details.asp?SKU=610&catid=1854&ItemName=GI%203%20Piece%201%20Qt.%20OD%20Canteen%2 0W/%20Clip
Generic water carrying device. However, we both are taking a 5l bottle of water in the backpack.

Sixth, shelter/poncho:
http://www.allegro.pl/item971290390_nowa_wojskowa_palatka_peleryna_namio t_stelaz_r1.html
It's both a poncho and you can combine two to get a tent with railing. We're not taking the railing, we're just taking it for the poncho thing.

Seventh- machete/shovel - won't show pics because they're just generic tools, the machete is optional since we're yet to choose a location, one has lots of underbrush and the other has very little.

Eighth - boots:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8206/090420101841.jpg
I'm taking a pair of these just because I had them lying around the house. They look good, seem durable and are pretty light. I have a pair of steelies, but come on, I wouldn't be able to do the 20-30 miles per day in those since they're heavy as fuck. Also thought about getting some surplus army boots, but hey, I gotta save the money.

Yeah, the money, this is the reason why I'm not investing into tried and true gear and add to it the little time I have here, in the US (ap. 16 days left), the rest of the gear I'll collect in Poland.

I'm also looking into that solar still (hole in the ground covered with plastic and a bottle underneath) thing to get water since water weighs and takes up a lot of space. Also, we're gonna look into this to provide heat for food:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8700/1270682781336.jpg
as making fires near the Ukrainian border is a bit risky, but we will probably have to since it gets a bit cold at night.

The rest of the gear ie. sleeping bag (surplus czech from the 80's), knife (cheap :( blades), maps, compass, anti-tick chems etc. I'm getting/got in Poland already.


What else would I need that's not too obvious but could help out? Any outdoorsman tips to follow?

[Ebola]

Sounds like a potentially great trip :)

Flashlights first. The two flashlights look a bit big for my preference. Personally I use a cheap LED headlamp for hands-free operation. Though your type can be used hands free it wont follow the movements of your head.

Even though the stitching in the belt (and any gear for that matter) might be weak, you can and should reinforce all critical seams before heading out.

Since you already ordered the backpack I would recommend sewing some D-rings and straps on to attach the needed stuff (otherwise I would have recommended a different pack).
I recently got this (http://www.camo-militaria.pl/index.php?products=product&prod_id=463) one (also from Poland) and added some (MOLLE) straps and reinforced some stitching. If you need more gear, check the link. Though most is Chinese made knockoffs nothing beats their prices.

I don´t think you should rely on the solar still if you will be on the move a lot. They work best in sun and you will properbly be moving during the day. Though they are expensive you might consider buying a water filter with your buddy. A small one like this (http://www.katadyn.com/usen/katadyn-products/products/katadynshopconnect/katadyn-water-filters-backcountry-series-products/katadyn-hiker-usa/) weighs about half a kilo and can filter up to one liter of water pr. minute of pumping. It can be any water (lake, stream, even your own piss if needed :) ) If you are following streams or know places where you can camp and filter, you can travel with much less than the 5 liters (kilos) each.

Poncho/shelter looks nice. If your buddy has the same you are all set to go :) Is it canvas? Might consider US Ponchos (http://www.camo-militaria.pl/index.php?products=product&prod_id=1358) for lighter weight if the other one is canvas.

When I go on trips my buddy always brings a machete and I bring a foldable saw. We can cut down a small forrest in no time ;) A shovel is heavy and we only bring it if we need to dig a "loo" or do major outdoor engineering jobs.

Though the DIY burner is small and works, it needs liquid fuel that takes space/weight.
You also need some vessel/pot to boil water and cook food. I use the old Swedish army cooker (http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop/camping-outdoor/cooking-eating/cooking/trangia-stove-mess-kit-330662.html). It has a burner much like the DIY one you linked. It also has a pot and pan and a built in stand for the pot. I wouldn´t trust that hanger wire stand with boiling water on it for a sec. The best is some pot that you can hang over a fire but also put on your burner if needed.

You should bring some sort of survival and first aid kit too. Don´t forget a multitool, duct tape and sewing kit. Imagine worst case scenario (lets say one of you break a leg or in other ways become immobile, or a broken backpack) and work backwards from there on the hows, whats, wheres etc.

Bon voyage!

[MartinDave]

For a camping trip, you would need a tent, a sleep bag, some cooking supplies, water, and other essentials like knife, flashlight, rope, and a first aid kit. You will also need good quality outdoor luggage. Speaking of outdoor luggage, has anyone heard about Briggs & Riley’s new adventure luggage (http://www.briggs-riley.com/category/group.aspx?col=BRX) line BRX? I am quite excited to see what the products are like. They look pretty neat on the website!

[SHARP]

"Briggs & Riley’s new adventure luggage line BRX" looks like something that should've been kneecapped at birth...

But, besides that:

I'm sure "Briggs & Riley’s new adventure luggage line BRX" will be excellent for taking up that space you've never found something suitable for, at the bottom of your closet, and as someone who is no stranger to living outdoors I feel confident enough to put my reputation on the line and say I think it would work wonderful in that role!

Also, I really like how it's got those tiny and totally superfluous little wheels underneath that I'm sure would work great on any flat, smooth, and clinically clean surface like the one you'd find anywhere but in the wild, and I'm sure that feature will bring countless years of joy to anyone who keeps this magnificent bit o' kit at the bottom of their closet, or better yet at the store that are trying to sell it to them...
Naturally, they shouldn't pay for it, but just decide to keep it there...

Another thing I really like about it, is that no matter if you decide to get it in a dull "slate" grey, a feisty "ocean" bluish, or whythefuckdon'tyoujustcallittan? "amber", it'll come equipped with a stupid pull-out handle that can be left un-pulled-the-friggin'-fuck-out so the whole thing could probably fit under your bed along with the 90lbs concrete butt plug and the UrineSwingMeister2000 people who were inclined to buy this POS would already have stashed down there...

I will be sure to keep my eye out for more great contributions from you!

[LiquidIce]

I posted earlier but I also got a bit more stuff:
1) Mini 2AA LED MagLite - worth the money because of the insanely long battery life and the almost unbelievable strength of the light. Not only for lighting up terrain and buildings, but it can potentially blind your enemies if you flash it in their eyes.
http://www.specopstactical.com/shop/catalog/images/store/Rothco/784.jpg

2) Ka-Bar Mule Desert
An extremely reliable (or so I've read) folding knife made of AUS8 steel. It seems big and sturdy, fits the hand perfectly and it's the only knife I have that I would trust my life with.
http://www.knifeoutlet.com/shop/products/kab3050.jpg

Now, me and my buddy only need to buy some nice bdu longsleeved shirts and we are ready. He still has to finish off Uni exams, but we're off in the first days of July.

Where? It's a thing called "Molotov's Line" in eastern Poland, it's a defensive line of half-finished or finished bunkers from the second world war. It's damn long, about 500+km, but many parts were never built. We're going to the parts that were built ;). I'l take pics, maybe make a thread about it. It's gonna be just us two, about 2-3 days of rations and water and... old soviet/polish/german mass graves. :thumbsup:

And there are plans for at least another 2 trips besides that one so hell yeah.

[JC Denton]

Remember. No one can hear you scream way out in the woods when you're getting raped. Here's a list of things that may prolong your survival and anal virginity.

1. Woodland camoflauge shirt and cargo pants. Ones with lots of pockets for holding your tools and other shit. It should make you blend in with your environment and make you less visible to wild animals or people that are likely to kill you. If you're going out in the desert, then get desert camo. Or if you can't afford to buy all these different camo's, just get multicam. Preferably lighter colors, since you can easily darken the color with a thin coat of spray paint if it becomes necessary. Get a good toolbelt for you pants that can hold all of your holsters and stuff.

2. Spray paint. Other than for reasons previously stated. This can be used to tag trees so you won't get lost and will know the way back. Use a color that is easy to spot, such as bright red. Odds are you will probably see a lot of trees marked with paint already by boy scouts, but if you ever go off-trail into dangerous uncharted territory you will need it.

3. Canteen. Water is the second most important thing to your survival after air. Get a camoflauged one that will match your clothing, and one that can fit on your toolbelt. Water treatment tablets or purification kits can also be useful, especially if you're outdoors for longer periods and don't have a kettle.

4. Backpack. This will hold all the stuff you won't need right away or can't fit in your pockets or holsters. Again, preferably a camoflauged one with lots of pockets and slots. Waterproof.

5. Cellular phone. To call your ass some help if you got brutally raped, beaten, or mauled. It helps to have some contact with the outside world, though keep in mind it will probably take the emergency units some time to find you since you can't really give directions to your location like in town, and they can't drive there anyway. Welcome to the great outdoors. :rolleyes:

6. Flashlight/Searchlight. If you're stuck miles out in the woods at night, you're fucked. You won't see shit, and theres no chance of you getting back alive and it's scary as fuck. Bring extra batteries for all of your electronics in case they die.

7. Combat boots and military socks. Get boots that are terrain and waterproof, comfortable, durable, and oil/ice slip resistant. They should facilitate running, so if you ever get tailed by a pack of starving wolves you'll be able to run to the nearest tree and climb up without slipping back down.

8. Machete. and not a cheap 5$ walmart one. Get a proper one that can actually cut through all types of vegetation with ease.

9. First-aid kit. Should include all the basic essential medical supplies such as bandages, disinfectant, bug and snake bite ointments, suturing supplies, and i'd also throw in some morphine ampoules as well.

10. Torch lighter. This will be used for starting fires. It burns extremely hot so excercise caution. One great thing about butane lighters is their wind-resistance. They drink butane like crazy, so bring a vial of butane refiller.

11. Digital watch (in military time) with compass. To easily keep track of time and direction.

12. Fingerless gloves. These will protect your hands from developing callouses and other nasty ailments when you will be handling lots of sticks, branches, and rocks. Though at the same time you won't lose any dexterity as you would with normal gloves.

13. Firearm. For self-defense or hunting. Best to bring a long butted rifle with a bandolier sling. Higher calibers are recommend if you may go up against grizzly bears and other large animals, but if you don't want cops giving you shit then get a .117 or .22 bb/pellet gun

14. Tent and sleeping bags, if you plan on camping out.

15. Entrenching tool or chinese super shovele. You can easily fit it in your cargo pocket and it's got all the tools you need.

16. Food. To eat. Unless you plan on hunting and gathering.

17. Sunscreen.

18. Hat or helmet. Camoflauged of course.

19. KA-BAR combat knife w/ sheath. Useful for a lot of stuff, including cutting rope or self-defense. Did i mention bring rope? bring hemp rope. Mount that Ka-bar on your chest.

[SHARP]

2. Spray paint. Other than for reasons previously stated. This can be used to tag trees so you won't get lost and will know the way back. Use a color that is easy to spot, such as bright red. Odds are you will probably see a lot of trees marked with paint already by boy scouts, but if you ever go off-trail into dangerous uncharted territory you will need it.

Or you could use a hand held GPS receiver instead, that's what I do, it has a boatload more uses and you don't pollute nature with paint.

3. Canteen. Water is the second most important thing to your survival after air. Get a camoflauged one that will match your clothing, and one that can fit on your toolbelt. Water treatment tablets or purification kits can also be useful, especially if you're outdoors for longer periods and don't have a kettle.

I prefer a bladder based hydration system like the CamelBak, it can hold more water than any canteen, it doesn't slosh around when it's half empty, you can drink without having to do anything besides turning your head and biting down on the valve connected to the hose that runs to the bladder strapped to your pack.

5. Cellular phone. To call your ass some help if you got brutally raped, beaten, or mauled. It helps to have some contact with the outside world, though keep in mind it will probably take the emergency units some time to find you since you can't really give directions to your location like in town, and they can't drive there anyway. Welcome to the great outdoors. :rolleyes:

My GPS receiver takes care of that down to an accuracy of 35 cm, and mine is a Garmin Etrex H... Probably the cheapest they make...

18. Hat or helmet. Camoflauged of course.

Helmet?

[JC Denton]

Helmet?

Last summer I got a concussion from a tree branch falling on my head, and another time an even bigger one fell within a foot in front of me, which probably would have killed me. Probably just my luck though.

Also, if there are hunters around the area, there may also be stray bullets flying.

Of course, it may just be my paranoia. You'll probably survive with just a wide-brimmed hat to shield you from thicks.

[this-too-will-pass]

I tend to go as light as possible for as long as possible. I spend good money on the important things and the rest is pretty cheap. I always bring:

tarp, kukri, folding saw, buck knife, leatherman micra, cable ties, Toiletries bag(toothbrush w/o handle, razor w/o handle, two small hotel towels, mirror(good for signaling), soap), bivy sack, 30`F sleeping bag, iodine tablets, water filter + pump, emergency poncho, emergency blanket, clothing a little heavier than appropriate, lightweight drawstring backpack, monocular, crank light, sterno, multiple bics, multiple compasses, electrical tape, sewing kit, superglue, food, water, foam sleeping pad.

I've got all that minus food, water, and clothes somewhere around 15 pounds.