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Syphilis
12-11-2009, 07:00 AM
It'll raise a lot of hell, but if it's enforced, IT WILL WORK.

I was just browsing another forum. You know what? There was no shitty trolling like we have here. Other places do not allow trolls and spammers to run rampant.

Anybody making shit like this should be banned permanently:
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83925
In fact I remember infracting him in the past for the exact same thing.

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Now look at this post in Bad Ideas:
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83973

I've seen Blunderful make good posts on other forums. Even 5024L or whatever his name was posted useful stuff in BI and NS&H sometimes. The point is, with the trolls being allowed to run loose, nobody feels an incentive to post anything useful.

When everybody else is fucking around, they draw other people into it. If everyone else is fucking around, why would anyone bother to add anything useful?

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A banning spree will cull a fair few users. But over time, the quality of Zoklet will go up and we'll attract more better posters. Win/win.

Eventually the basement dwellers who sit around spamming this place will get bored if they see the moderators are serious. Maybe have a hall of shame where banned accounts get listed, along with their IP addresses, ISP, location, and email address. Anything to discourage the trolls.

I say invite back Meta and kick some ass.

Shrike
12-11-2009, 07:58 PM
Ok, but we have to ban you first.

Lord hang man
12-11-2009, 08:02 PM
And then your alt accounts. So the true purging can begin.

FireStarter
12-11-2009, 08:09 PM
You quit being a mod... Why don't you stop bitching about what goes on now since you gave up control of it.

slm33d
12-11-2009, 08:13 PM
You quit being a mod... Why don't you stop bitching about what goes on now since you gave up control of it.
Kinda got a point here syph

Issue313
12-11-2009, 08:15 PM
I was just browsing another forum. You know what? There was no shitty trolling like we have here. Other places do not allow trolls and spammers to run rampant.

So you're leaving? Don't let the door hit you on your way out, shitbird.

Syphilis: putting the commie in community :thumbsup:

Stock Market Anomalies
12-11-2009, 08:15 PM
What you don't seem to realize is that even in retarded troll threads more sensible users occasionally show up and start off an actually discussion based loosely around the OP. I think your idea is almost as fucked as Greyfox is.

Paragon
12-11-2009, 08:17 PM
Syphilis: You're not as interesting of a poster as you think you are.

Kinkou
12-11-2009, 08:37 PM
i wouldn't like zoklet if it was a secret club

the variety is what i love about this place

ChinaCat
12-11-2009, 08:48 PM
Yeah if you guys seriously think that heavy fisted moderation had anything to do with totse growing into what it was at its peak you are misguided in your attempts of recreation with zoklet.

Trix Are For Kids
12-11-2009, 08:50 PM
Syphilis is right. Ban the trolls, fuck their bitches.:thumbsup:

Syphilis
12-11-2009, 09:00 PM
Just to clarify, the mods should take a zero-tolerance policy towards idiocy and infract without warning anybody who acts like a kidiot. There is NO way to get accidentally infracted.

Ban the trolls, fuck their bitches.:thumbsup:
I support this.

Yeah if you guys seriously think that heavy fisted moderation had anything to do with totse growing into what it was at its peak you are misguided in your attempts of recreation with zoklet.
...times have changed. Other forums manage just fine without disruptive trolling and idiocy, Zoklet can too.

What you don't seem to realize is that even in retarded troll threads more sensible users occasionally show up and start off an actually discussion based loosely around the OP. I think your idea is almost as fucked as Greyfox is.
Rarely. It's more likely that once somebody sees a stupid troll post, they'll respond to it with trolling and vulgarity, and before long it's a cesspool of crap that nobody wants to wade through.

Kinkou
12-12-2009, 12:48 AM
i don't like this idea because i'm sure there's mods (like spectral) who throw me into the "undesirable poster" category though many other people disagree.

how would you choose who stays and goes?

i haven't even been warned for anything yet. but, i also don't feel i would deserve it either

Femme Fatale
12-12-2009, 12:54 AM
Once you get too serious about this stuff you lose sight of what this all was meant to be.

I don't mind the trolls, I stay light hearted, for the most part that is.
It's also funny to see dignified posters come into troll threads and bash the OP.

My Mom Is Dead
12-12-2009, 01:38 AM
Way to go, Syph. In a single post, you completely faggotrized yourself and lost what little respect I could have had for your earlier posts.

have a hall of shame where banned accounts get listed, along with their IP addresses, ISP, location, and email address. Anything to discourage the trolls.

Yeah, because posting a person's personal details is completely cool around here.... :rolleyes:
But what the fuck, it's not like the staff cares about the rules. They're as big of trolls as the rest of us, they just get to push people around a bit more.

i wouldn't like zoklet if it was a secret club

Halfway there already.

Star Wars Fan
12-12-2009, 01:39 AM
Maybe have a hall of shame where banned accounts get listed, along with their IP addresses, ISP, location, and email address. Anything to discourage the trolls.

Fuck No. There's enough douchebaggery in here, now we're going to have douchebaggery AND bullshit rules and authoritarian garbage? I'm raiding a board for being that type of faggot - don't bring that shit here.

Winter
12-12-2009, 02:15 AM
or we could let people troll to the extreme

look at 4chan, it lets people troll in epic proportions, and that is what is great and where their success is. They were more successful than totse and they started in 2003. People enjoy trolling until they get trolled. The whole freedom of speech thing here is utter bullshit. I make one post about a certain mod, and he deletes it. Without the trolls this site will be as boring as hell.:o

4chan is complete garbage. Its too much trolling/memes/pictures/pic signatures/giant eye sore. Its horrible. No serious discussion whatsoever. Massive fail.

Totse was a smaller community, but it was the perfect blend of trolling/serious discussion and since we used a outdated bbs or whatever, it made the pages simple and no overused pictures ruined it.

Zoklet has an even smaller community, with the outdated bbs(which is a good thing), has barely any trolling/lulz compared to totse, but at the same time barely has any good info because the fucking mods are too nazi and are trying to force people into posting only useful info. We need a perfect balance that totse had, but the mods dont want that. Totse had tons of serious discussion and lulz. Zoklet has killed the lulz severly and hence is actually killing serious discussion. Why go to site to talk serious if i cant have some fun?

Didnt someone else mention 5024L was a great poster in some forums and posted useful info, but at the same time trolled other ones? Whats wrong with that? Hes one of the best posters ever. He posted useful info and brought many lulz. And JFLC makes me lol at every post he makes. He should never be banned again.

My Mom Is Dead
12-12-2009, 02:58 AM
Didnt someone else mention 5024L was a great poster in some forums and posted useful info, but at the same time trolled other ones? Whats wrong with that? Hes one of the best posters ever. He posted useful info and brought many lulz.

The poor lad's only downfall was that he would in no way ever kiss a mod's ass. A fucking shame, ennit?

zingalong
12-12-2009, 03:14 AM
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/images-2/adolf-hitler.jpg

Oh HAI gais. I am in favor of this idea! SIEG HEIL!!!!!!!

Star Wars Fan
12-12-2009, 04:37 AM
4chan is complete garbage. Its too much trolling/memes/pictures/pic signatures/giant eye sore.

Pic Signature? Since when did a *chan get pic signatures?

Its horrible. No serious discussion whatsoever. Massive fail.


Methinks you've been on /b/ too much..

Totse was a smaller community, but it was the perfect blend of trolling/serious discussion and since we used a outdated bbs or whatever, it made the pages simple and no overused pictures ruined it.

Perfect Blend? Tough Guy faggots fucked up TOTSE. The forum was a shithole with fucktard right-wing faggots, etc...

but at the same time barely has any good info because the fucking mods are too nazi and are trying to force people into posting only useful info.

Since when was this happening?


Didnt someone else mention 5024L was a great poster in some forums and posted useful info, but at the same time trolled other ones? Whats wrong with that?

Because that allows faggotry to spread- e.g. those right-wing tards who could get away with their bullshit because they were knowledgeable in the gun boards on TOTSE

explosivemania!
12-12-2009, 05:14 AM
It'll raise a lot of hell, but if it's enforced, IT WILL WORK.

I was just browsing another forum. You know what? There was no shitty trolling like we have here. Other places do not allow trolls and spammers to run rampant.

Anybody making shit like this should be banned permanently:
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83925
In fact I remember infracting him in the past for the exact same thing.

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Now look at this post in Bad Ideas:
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83973

I've seen Blunderful make good posts on other forums. Even 5024L or whatever his name was posted useful stuff in BI and NS&H sometimes. The point is, with the trolls being allowed to run loose, nobody feels an incentive to post anything useful.

When everybody else is fucking around, they draw other people into it. If everyone else is fucking around, why would anyone bother to add anything useful?

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A banning spree will cull a fair few users. But over time, the quality of Zoklet will go up and we'll attract more better posters. Win/win.

Eventually the basement dwellers who sit around spamming this place will get bored if they see the moderators are serious. Maybe have a hall of shame where banned accounts get listed, along with their IP addresses, ISP, location, and email address. Anything to discourage the trolls.

I say invite back Meta and kick some ass.

And just how do you suggest you guys decide who is a quality poster and who is undesirable? If mods like Spectral get their way, just about every user would be banned. The spammers are not the ones destroying your community. They are merely pointing out that you, the mod and administrative team, are doing a damn good job of it all by yourselves.

Zoklet is a stain on the face of the memory of totse. That is to say that a bunch of fucked up mods with napoleon complexes does not a free speach/free information site make. I can't imagine that zoklet is getting many new users, if I came to a website and saw that pitifully done banner as the first thing I wouldn't stay more than a second.

So sniphilis, you are leaving, really this time. http://zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=79108 Ha! You sound like you could really use a life instead of coming on a message board and bitching about people who are merely pointing out the reasons you wanted to leave. Of course you aren't learning anymore, nobody here is.

You guys need to do totse a favor and just let it die. Please, while it still has a shred of dignity left. I pity you all for carrying on with this.

Rizzo in a box
12-12-2009, 05:25 AM
lololol,

sniphilis

makes me want to

snortalineofcoke

Rizzo in a box
12-12-2009, 05:36 AM
lolololol pope

we'll bring it back

you and me

too many emo sewer bitches running about these days

rough 'em up a bit

hey

let's do some drugs

and commit dangerous crimes

:thumbsup:

^^What &T was all about, and NOTHING ELSE, except maybe pr0n and conspiracy theories.

Im Bored
12-12-2009, 05:49 AM
:thumbsup:



:thumbsup:

porchmonkey4lyfe
12-12-2009, 05:51 AM
Oh man, I just joined and I see this. Do you guys really have a problem with spammers?:(

Lman1578
12-12-2009, 06:07 AM
Chavinist is a good poster, and he is very useful in LLR, and has made great helpful threads. Many many times. Maybe too often. But i dont think too much is wrong other then that we dont have creative posters out there as we used to on totse. Zoklet is still in its baby years. It will grow slowly and you will find more serious posters.

Stock Market Anomalies
12-12-2009, 06:09 AM
mention 5024L was a great poster in some forums and posted useful info, but at the same time trolled other ones? Whats wrong with that?
I agree with this.

He should never have been banned.

Lman1578
12-12-2009, 06:16 AM
Oh man, I just joined and I see this. Do you guys really have a problem with spammers?:(

Its not as bad as what some people make it out to be. Its really more people being stupid for the lulz. thats about it.

Anima Mundi
12-12-2009, 06:35 AM
Who is undesirable is opinion. Mods would ban people they don't like, everyone would get banned.

Stock Market Anomalies
12-12-2009, 06:37 AM
Mods would ban people they don't like

Does this not happen on a daily basis?

Syphilis
12-12-2009, 06:38 AM
Who is undesirable is opinion. Mods would ban people they don't like, everyone would get banned.
No, they'd just hand out infractions for people who make stupid "lol kill niggers" posts, without warning. Maybe it should be after 4 or so infractions that they are perma-banned.

And just how do you suggest you guys decide who is a quality poster and who is undesirable?
(blah blah blah)
You guys need to do totse a favor and just let it die. Please, while it still has a shred of dignity left. I pity you all for carrying on with this.
Says the basement dweller who spends his time making dozens of accounts to spam and argue about internet drama with walls of text.

Syphilis
12-12-2009, 06:39 AM
Does this not happen on a daily basis?
Once again, you CAN'T GET YOURSELF ACCIDENTALLY INFRACTED. I've never seen it happen.

Your Local Weed Dealer
12-12-2009, 06:47 AM
You quit being a mod... Why don't you stop bitching about what goes on now since you gave up control of it.

he also made about five threads saying how he's leaving for good (not blunderful type threads either, this fag was serious)

Lman1578
12-12-2009, 06:55 AM
Once again, you CAN'T GET YOURSELF ACCIDENTALLY INFRACTED. I've never seen it happen.

it happens im sure. ive never been infracted so i wouldnt know in my case.

Bender
12-12-2009, 03:43 PM
The term "undesirable posters" is an opinion, and you know what they say about opinions..

I mean if I were mod, I would probably let some funny posts/trolling slide as long at it was funny and retarded/overly racist, just not in BI.

FireStarter
12-12-2009, 03:52 PM
he also made about five threads saying how he's leaving for good (not blunderful type threads either, this fag was serious)

That and I've seen him continue attempts to moderate in several threads, telling people off for various things, making comments like "If I were still a mod I'd infract your ass", quoting the rules to people, etc. Nobody who quits moderation has any right whatsoever to continue to tell posters what to do. They need to gracefully step aside and let the current moderators do their jobs without criticism. Reminds me of a place I used to work where a manager quit and he'd randomly come in all the time following that to tell people they were "doing things wrong" :rolleyes:

-SpectraL
12-12-2009, 04:05 PM
There are many forums here where the majority of the populous doesn't want lulz.

What makes you thread-spammers think your needs are more important than theirs?

Rizzo in a box
12-12-2009, 04:36 PM
Once again, you CAN'T GET YOURSELF ACCIDENTALLY INFRACTED. I've never seen it happen.

New mods who don't understand the rules = "accidental" infractions

-SpectraL
12-12-2009, 04:42 PM
They're not "accidental". They're based on reflection... and sometimes even because a user has shown remorse, and so has become worthy of such affections. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater now people. Nobody wants that.

Rizzo in a box
12-12-2009, 04:50 PM
What the fuck? Fuck the baby, that IS an accident, by the very fact that you're reflecting on it and decide to change it means that the original decision was wrong.

Dfg
12-12-2009, 04:55 PM
You guys are lazy.

Make the fucking list already.

*Loads his Ak-47*

I am neutral on this but I do enjoy some quality lulz and trolling and anyone who thinks 5204L is an awesome posters should suck my cock.

-SpectraL
12-12-2009, 04:56 PM
What the fuck? Fuck the baby, that IS an accident, by the very fact that you're reflecting on it and decide to change it means that the original decision was wrong.Not at all. The bulletin board scene is an ever-changing, dynamic entity, and things must be adjusted to suit as we go along. New information comes in, different viewpoints present themselves, new direction hails from above occasionally... there's all kinds of things which can change an original situation. IMO, if a mod cannot be dynamic, stuck in the mud of a static existence, then they should simply GTFO of the kitchen.

Uriah Heep
12-12-2009, 04:58 PM
I agree with this idea, I mean I know i do commit some pointless shit..we are all at least a bit guilty, but when I am actually reading other useful posts, I am more than likely to contribte in a positive manner. I am for this movement.

abusername
12-12-2009, 05:07 PM
It'll raise a lot of hell, but if it's enforced, IT WILL WORK.

I was just browsing another forum. You know what? There was no shitty trolling like we have here. Other places do not allow trolls and spammers to run rampant.

Anybody making shit like this should be banned permanently:
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83925
In fact I remember infracting him in the past for the exact same thing.

---------------------

Now look at this post in Bad Ideas:
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83973

I've seen Blunderful make good posts on other forums. Even 5024L or whatever his name was posted useful stuff in BI and NS&H sometimes. The point is, with the trolls being allowed to run loose, nobody feels an incentive to post anything useful.

When everybody else is fucking around, they draw other people into it. If everyone else is fucking around, why would anyone bother to add anything useful?

---------------------

A banning spree will cull a fair few users. But over time, the quality of Zoklet will go up and we'll attract more better posters. Win/win.

Eventually the basement dwellers who sit around spamming this place will get bored if they see the moderators are serious. Maybe have a hall of shame where banned accounts get listed, along with their IP addresses, ISP, location, and email address. Anything to discourage the trolls.

I say invite back Meta and kick some ass.

Shut the fuck up you idiot, even the people that don't get banned will leave if Zok ever did something like this (Which he won't, because hes not a idiot)

Stop having a power trip and realize your not a moderator anymore, stop acting like it. This website is supposed to be about free speech and knowledge, if you really can't deal with some idiots now and then and don't have the FUCKING WILLPOWER TO AVOID CLICKING ON THEIR TOPICS then LEAVE Syphilis, leave. Grow the fuck up and stop letting every little fuckwad get to you and rile you up, do they really bother you that much? Just IGNORE them. Scroll past their posts. Ignore their topics, if its a really bad topic that has offensive shit report it to a moderator.

TL;DR Grow the fuck up, get some willpower and stop letting the trolls eat you up inside you pathetic, whiny little girl. This is OUR internet message board.. our COMMUNITY is what keeps it going.. not you and the 15 other posters that you deem worthy.

Seriously, stop acting like this is seriuss-fucking-buziness! Its not bro, its a fucking message board. Totse had trolls, grow the fuck up and deal with the internet.

Once again, your a whiny little fuck. Stop embarassing yourself and fuck up. Sorry for dragging this on so long, have a nice day.

My Mom Is Dead
12-12-2009, 05:12 PM
Once again, you CAN'T GET YOURSELF ACCIDENTALLY INFRACTED. I've never seen it happen.

I'm living proof you can be accidentally banned--twice, no less... though, I'm pretty sure I earned the two infractions I'm wearing at the moment. ;)
So, shit-son, you're right. No accidental infractions, just insta-bans without warning. :hrmph:

-SpectraL
12-12-2009, 05:13 PM
...I mean I know i do commit some pointless shit..we are all at least a bit guilty, but when I am actually reading other useful posts, I am more than likely to contribute in a positive manner....Interestingly enough, what you have said here practically mirrors a PM MandatorySuicide sent me on this subject just days ago... those "powers from above" sure are reflective fellows.