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kidnations
02-11-2009, 09:10 AM
Im thinking about starting steroids.. i have been weight training for nearlly two years now but have hit a hill in my physique.. i basically want to put some wait on while still staying nicely shaped.. i have been recommened to take stanazol or wistrol... and thinking of maybe combing with d-bol.. i read that you can drink the stana as well as inject it.. any thoughts or anything that i may benefit from knowing

minor69ner
02-11-2009, 09:44 AM
It will give you pimples and make your balls shrink?

HowardMoon7
02-11-2009, 10:18 AM
Pix or it never happened

My guess is you're a scrawny prick, used 20lb dumbells for 3 weeks and can't notice any difference, so you're taking the easy way out. COME ON SON, GET IT SORTED.

Agent 008
02-11-2009, 04:50 PM
I agree. First of all, you should post pics, your program, what you have been doing, your diet, etc.

If you want some serious advice, that is.

The English Gentleman
02-13-2009, 12:19 AM
Do not do it. it will cut your life short, and if your life is so shitty that does not bother you, remember you will go bald, your facial features will get horrific and yes your dick and balls will actually shrink.

kidnations
02-13-2009, 05:45 AM
lol... how wrong you are.. i am actually less than six foot tall and was weighing 77kg.. so i have a fair build.. and i also press 35kg dumbells.. i recently lost a lot of due to tiring job and little time to maintain health and training regime thati used to.. have since quit and want to get back to where i was quickly.. wanting to hit 80 - 85 kg.. am aware of all side effects of steroids.. now you can suck my knob... wanker!

kidnations
02-13-2009, 05:51 AM
i was just looking for some simple advice.. not some fuck wit giving slack.. i was getting at least 280g of protein a day.. using no booster, caffeine, tribulus, creatine and glutamine, training four nights a week.. half hour of cardio per night.. very clean diet (fish,red meat, chicken eggs, proper carbs and fats) im not just some scrawny cunt wanting to be massive.. i just want to get back my losses that took two years to build..

Fuck Apples
02-13-2009, 06:28 AM
K, shut the fuck up you stupid faggot. Don't come here, and ask us for quick advice, then insult us when we ask about your routine. You want to put on some more "wait"? Maybe you should repeat the second grade you dumb fuck.

You're clearly an idiot, who knows nothing about steroids, and you just wanted us to tell you what to do instead of doing your own research. If you had done ANY fucking research you would know its winstrol, not "wistrol", you fucking idiot.

Do you own research and ruin your own life/body. If you want HELP doing that, then don't act like a fucking douche.

Even though you don't deserve my help, I will tell you some things anyways. Don't do steroids now. You have only been working out for 2 years, and there is no way you have hit your natural peak. You can get bigger, stronger, and more in shape simply by adjusting your routine and diet. IF you had posted your routine and diet, I might be able to give you some advice, but since you didn't, I obviously can't.

That being said, I will tell you that I don't give a fuck about your health. Ask me how to make a noose to hang yourself and I will tell you. I don't care if you live or die, live healthy or live with terrible steroid side effects. So you can take my word for it when I tell you this. Do not use steroids. There is NO point to doing them in your situation. There are 2 good reasons for using steroids, and laziness/impatience isn't one of them.

Reason 1) You are a professional athlete. You are not a professional athlete.

Reason 2) You have reached your natural limits. You have not reached your natural limits.

WHEN you do reach your natural limits, steroids should be CYCLED, as in used for a brief period, then immediately stopped.

You do not need steroids, you need an education. That's all I'm going to say for now, unless your attitude changes.

HowardMoon7
02-13-2009, 12:05 PM
First you said you hit a plateau, now you say you wanna gain back muscle you lost. Which is it? If you reached a plateau, try new exercises/routines/reps/sets whatever. And up your calorie intake. If you wanna gain back muscle, just suck it up you poofter and start again. There's no reason to take steroids.

COME ON SON, GET IT SORTED.

007GoldenShower
02-13-2009, 12:19 PM
The only thing on this planet that can bulk you up is my dick, mate. Your auntie gets bulked up occassionally by my thick dick while her legs are flappin over me shoulders. COME ON SON, GET IT SORTED

master killer
02-13-2009, 01:04 PM
I went from 150lb to 190lb in three months using a combination of a 3x5 routine and a gallon of milk a day. (plus meat and eggs, obviously)

I seriously doubt I could have done any better on steroids.

The English Gentleman
02-13-2009, 05:29 PM
I went from 150lb to 190lb in three months using a combination of a 3x5 routine and a gallon of milk a day. (plus meat and eggs, obviously)

I seriously doubt I could have done any better on steroids.

You could have ended up bald, some girls like it...

HowardMoon7
02-13-2009, 07:07 PM
I went from 150lb to 190lb in three months using a combination of a 3x5 routine and a gallon of milk a day. (plus meat and eggs, obviously)

I seriously doubt I could have done any better on steroids.

You are doing it right.

InjectionSite
02-15-2009, 02:47 AM
To the OP...

First...
Before you consider any steroid:

-Check your diet, double check it, post it on a well known blog to be critiqued.

-Check your routine, analyze it's effectiveness, post that as well (you will usually receive a large amount of negative feedback if you post only your routine so post stats, diet, and any other relevant information.) Use the critique as only a tool to better understand proper techniques, training cycles, etc. The posters do not share your genetics thus their success is not your success.

-Research, research, research, and research. (Know what it means to cycle. Know what it means to stack as well as what should and should not be stacked, understand the importance of PCT if applicable, understand the consequences of use, know the biological mechanism behind the effect of anabolic steroids, etc.)

-If you still feel inclined to use... (which you very likely will) Consider the options available to you. Set a realistic goal of what you want to gain. Based on the information you've obtained... Build your cycle, create your PCT, and enjoy.


As for the criticism you have received...

Yes. There are negative side effects. Your balls (not your dick) will shrink, but the following month or so, post cycle, they magically come back.

You may have an increase in acne. (especially back acne) The appearance of acne is due in large to an already existing condition, negligent cleansing techniques, and dependent on which steroid is being used as some are more prone to skin irritation than others.

Don't worry about going bald.

Kidney/liver damage during the administration of steroids is very likely attributed to many factors which in large outweigh the negative impact the steroid abuse caused. (Certain steroids, especially when taken orally, are more harmful than others - which is why cycling correctly is important, knowing your current medical condition is without question a must, and taking extra precautions when combining medications and/or alcohol, etc.)

Aggression will, in most cases, increase. Not as dramatically as many are lead to believe but you'll for damn sure feel like you could run straight through a brick wall. If someone decides to be a douche and your response leads to a physical confrontation and you can't seal the deal you'll have at least put up one damn good fight.

And really who gives a shit why you want to take anabolic steroids. Yeah you might grow past a plateau with a change in diet and a proper routine adjustment, but if you want to grow that much more than why not? Even on steroids you are still doing the work, it is in no means lazy, if you're doing it for yourself than you're not cheating.

As far as the shit you were recommended - do as I suggested and look it up. Cause Winstrol is a pre-contest cutting steroid, Dbol needs to be stacked and used only for about 75% of your cycle at most...

Message me if you have anymore questions.

master killer
02-15-2009, 02:06 PM
*long post*

Steroids should be used when you reach your natural limit because they'd be a waste otherwise. Why spend money and risk your health when you can get the same results from a fine tuned diet and routine?
By the way, sorry if I come by as ignorant, but what is exactly a cutting steroid? Does it increase mass or just deals with fat?
Thanks!