This act of terrorism Bush would not see

[IIIII]

This happened on the watch of George W Bush and was perpetrated by a terrorist that hated the US and all of her freedoms. Bush would not acknowledge this act of terrorism on his watch but that is the truth of the despicable act by a right wingnut murdering coward. And those who are more aligned with this terrorist are allowed to spew their hate on the very free airwaves with the aid of the US government like the FCC.

Names of the terrorists that remain free to spread their hate to the Low conservatives are easily recognized - Michael Reagan - Rush Limbaugh - Ann Coulter - Sean Hannity - Michael Savage - Bill O'Reilly.

It must be made plain that the right Freedom of speech is not a right when it is used as a political weapon to foment hate against the innocents of our society.

Read the "manifesto" written by the terrorist the Limbaugh and that others have a warm feeling and a covert amount of respectful love for.

Read how he has no remorse for his crimes and his desire to kill all congressional Democrats and would be happy to resume his terrorism if he is ever released from prison.

The RightWingNut Poster boy

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/feb/10/church-shooter-pleads-guilty-letter-released/


http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/021009church-manifesto.pdf

[supperrfreek]

There's no way anyone could have seen this coming, it's one man with one idea in his head. No ideas were communicated with anyone until the note was dropped. His community probably just thought: oh he's crazy but he won't do shit.
Names of the terrorists that remain free to spread their hate to the Low conservatives are easily recognized - Michael Reagan - Rush Limbaugh - Ann Coulter - Sean Hannity - Michael Savage - Bill O'Reilly.
And what do you want to do about that? What Adkinson did? We could pass a law; but a law saying that the democrat and republican viewpoints be represented would cheat out all the smaller political denominations (libertarians, classic liberals, socialists, etc.), and if every viewpoint is equally represented there would be no time for anything else, it would take all day to cover one issue.

It must be made plain that the right Freedom of speech is not a right when it is used as a political weapon to foment hate against the innocents of our society.
So then I guess moveon.org, the new york times, NPR and every other liberal media outlet should be censored as well. Kieth Olberman and Chris Mathews are completely ignored; as if they don't foment hatred as well? How about Lou Dobbs, he's a pissed off xenophobe: shouldn't you be mad about him too? I guess everyone should be followed around and constantly monitored and the second they say one off color comment they should be sent and re educated.....

Read the "manifesto" written by the terrorist the Limbaugh and that others have a warm feeling and a covert amount of respectful love for.

Read how he has no remorse for his crimes and his desire to kill all congressional Democrats and would be happy to resume his terrorism if he is ever released from prison.
I don't think that any major component of the right wing of American politics has advocated the killing of any component of the left wing. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a soundbite of it either. Maybe they disagree, but lets face it, I don't even think that a drunken Rush Limbaugh could go that far.

[IIIII]

I don't think that any major component of the right wing of American politics has advocated the killing of any component of the left wing. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a soundbite of it either. Maybe they disagree, but lets face it, I don't even think that a drunken Rush Limbaugh could go that far.

Consider, for instance, that Lieberman has been a guest on Pat Robertson's 700 Club as recently as last month. You may recall that Robertson has called for detonating a nuclear device on the U.S. State Department and has publicly urged people to pray for the early death of various Supreme Court justices.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/lanny-joe-the-rightwi_b_26769.html

HAHA Didn't this fine rightwing religious preacher nearly run for president of the US? Yes. And the reason he did was because he knew that he could get so much support from low conservatives if he said that liberals should be murdered. A good Christian with such good Christian values and the Christians that share his hate filled rhetoric.

1) James Adkisson (the right-wing nut who shot up a liberal church) has been sentenced to life behind bars for the deaths of Greg McKendry and Linda Kraeger, who died during his assault on their church in Knoxville, TN. last July.

When police searched Adkisson's apartment they found it filled with books and newsletters written by Bill O'Reilly, Bernie Goldberg, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, and other right-wingers.

Shortly after he was sentenced Monday, he released a four-page handwritten "manifesto" -- which he'd intended to be his suicide note -- to the Knoxville News. In it, he unleashes the full measure of his hatred for liberals -- and encourages other would-be right-wing warriors to take up arms and follow him into battle.

Here is part of what he wrote:

"Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state.

"This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book."

I'd like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same.

Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I'd like to encourage other like minded people to do what I've done. If life aint worth living anymore don't just kill yourself. do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.

Remember this, people like O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, Goldberg, Coulter, etc. helped create this guy, he watched their hate filled shows on radio and tv and read their hate filled books. This built up an extreme hate for liberals, over years and years. Then he finally acted on his hate, the hate fed by O'Reilly and his right-wing friends.

http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/

[Iehovah]

Speaking of scum bags, let's talk about your asinine desire to steal constitutional rights from people just because they disagree with you. I notice those hate-mongers are from one side of the fence... where's equal representation on the other side? Oh wait, there's not, because you've decided only conseratives are guilty of this.

You are no better than they.

[ACE_187]

i think it's funny that you think anyone who knows anything gives a shit about someone like oreilly :rolleyes:

this story was funny lol. thanks. i am all for sensoring EVERYTHING, the internet too. because when you take away someons outlet to vent, they will be heard anyway :cool: like this guy. the media might have been pulling for obama, but this guy got his voice heard loud and clear. good job.

it makes me sick all of these churches adopting these nigger babies in africa. quit trying to tie the nigger/fag loving christian churches to the extreme right. christianity is what started liberalism you dumbass, it has no basis in reality.

and i called this back when it happened. i knew this guy was a good one. the clinton years were nothing as far as domestic terrorism compared to what your about to see. that was before obongo was even elected.

[IIIII]

Speaking of scum bags, let's talk about your asinine desire to steal constitutional rights from people just because they disagree with you. I notice those hate-mongers are from one side of the fence... where's equal representation on the other side? Oh wait, there's not, because you've decided only conseratives are guilty of this.

You are no better than they.


ORLY?
Then name anyone that has murdered from hatred that was fomented by my spewing of hate against the person, or the political associations, or the political leanings of that person that was murdered. Inciting violence has never been a right that is protected speech,. It is a crime as is murder. Are you that thick?

Don't run away and hide. Please back up your accusation. PLEASE!

[BrokeProphet]

It must be made plain that the right Freedom of speech is not a right when it is used as a political weapon to foment hate against the innocents of our society.

Nope, freedom of speech allows for someone to foment hate against the innocents of our society.

It also allows for you to express your disgust with it.

[Iehovah]

ORLY?
Then name anyone that has murdered from hatred that was fomented by my spewing of hate against the person, or the political associations, or the political leanings of that person that was murdered. Inciting violence has never been a right that is protected speech,. It is a crime as is murder. Are you that thick?

Don't run away and hide. Please back up your accusation. PLEASE!

Talk about "running away and hiding", you're hiding the proper accountability for this crime from the man who actually committed, like a coward blaming those you hate rather than those who are actually responsible for it. That's gutless, and worse, it's dishonest. You talk about proof, but where's yours? Where's your proof that Limbaugh has warm fuzzy feelings for a racist, bigoted killer? Where's his voiced support for "stopping women from having nigger babies and men from taking it up the ass"?

They have values in common, just as some liberals have values in common with street gangsters who think they're robin hood sticking it to the man. People who kill each other for no reason. If one of them spouts off before killing someone, does that make all liberal hate-mongers responsible?

No, they are fucking responsible for their own actions. When you have some quotes from Limbaugh telling his listeners to go out and kill people in the name of his ideals, support racial superiority and go biblical on the gays, then come talk to me with your "proof".

In the meantime, they're nothing more than loudmouthed assholes.

Like you.

[IIIII]

Limits of Freedom of Speech

Does the First Amendment mean anyone can say anything at any time? No.
The Supreme Court has rejected an interpretation of speech without limits.

Because the First Amendment has such strong language, we begin with the presumption that speech is protected. Over the years, the courts have decided that a few other public interests — for example, national security, justice or personal safety — override freedom of speech. There are no simple rules for determining when speech should be limited, but there are some general tests that help.

Clear and Present Danger
Will this act of speech create a dangerous situation? The First Amendment does not protect statements that are uttered to provoke violence or incite illegal action.

Justice Holmes, speaking for the unanimous Supreme Court, stated, “The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.”

Fighting Words
Was something said face-to-face that would incite immediate violence?

In Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, the Supreme Court stated that the “English language has a number of words and expressions which by general consent [are] ‘fighting words’ when said without a disarming smile. … Such words, as ordinary men know, are likely to cause a fight.” The court determined that the New Hampshire statute in question “did no more than prohibit the face-to-face words plainly likely to cause a breach of the peace by the addressee, words whose speaking constitute a breach of the peace by the speaker — including ‘classical fighting words,’ words in current use less ‘classical’ but equally likely to cause violence, and other disorderly words, including profanity, obscenity and threats.” Jurisdictions may write statutes to punish verbal acts if the statutes are “carefully drawn so as not unduly to impair liberty of expression.”

Also see What is the Fighting Words Doctrine?

Libel and Slander
Was the statement false, or put in a context that makes true statements misleading? You do not have a constitutional right to tell lies that damage or defame the reputation of a person or organization.

http://www.freedomforum.org/packages/first/curricula/educationforfreedom/supportpages/L04-LimitsFreedomSpeech.htm

Do I piss you off Iehovah?

[IIIII]

Nope, freedom of speech allows for someone to foment hate against the innocents of our society.

It also allows for you to express your disgust with it.

I thought you were above trying to win a debate by taking a phrase out of context to try to prove your point BrokeProphet. Maybe I was wrong.

[Iehovah]

Do I piss you off Iehovah?

Piss me off? Not at all. I see garbage, I toss it in flames. Same applies to those loudmouths. I consider them a waste, but that's their perogative.

So, addressing your links. Those are all fine and dandy - in fact, shock of shocks, I even AGREE with them. Whooooaaaa, concept,dude. Freedom of speech does have its limitations.

Yet you've failed to make even the most basic link between those limitations and the people you mentioned. They're not terrorists, and you couldn't even address the basic point I asked you for: Prove that they support this man's actions, that they called for it. Having some ideals in common is NOT the same thing. Note: Your psychic skills do not apply here.

Has it occurred to you that in a country filled with liberal lawyers, that if what you were saying is true, if they believe they had a strong a case as you say they do, that he and the rest of them would already have been hauled into court? Of course it hasn't, you're simply passing off your opinion as the gospel truth.

[IIIII]

Here is the Adkisson Manifesto



To whome it may concern:

I guess you're wondering why I did this. Well let me explain in detail. Over the years I've had some good jobs but I always got laid off. Now I'm 58 years old & and I can't get a decent job. I'm told I'm overqualified, which is a code word for "too damned old."Like I am expected to age gracefully into poverty. No thanks! I'm done.
I've always wondered why I was put on earth. For years I thought I was put here to die as cannon fodder in Vietnambut somehow beat the devil out of of it.Lately I have been feeling helpless in our war on terrorism. But I realized I could I could engage the terrorists allies here in America. The best allies they've got.
The Democrates! The Democrates have done everything they can do to tie our hands in this War on Terror. They're all a bunch of traitors. They want America to loose this war for reasons I can not understand. It makes me sooo mad!
In a parrallel train of thought, it saddens me to thinkback on all the bad things that Liberalism has done to this country. The worst problem that America faces is Liberalism. They have dumbed down education. They have defined deviancy down. Liberals have attacked every msjor institution that made America great. From the Boy Scouts to the Military, from education to Religion. The Major News outlets have become the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. Liberals are evil, they enbrace the tenets of Karl Marx. They're Marxist, Socialist, Communists.



The Unitarian Universalist Church

Don't let the word church mislead you. This isn't a church, it's a cult. They don't even believe in God. They worship the God of Secularism. These sick people aren't Liberals, they're UltraLiberals. This is a collection of SIckos, Weirdos, and homos. The UU Church is the Fountainhead, the veritable wellspring anti-American organizations like Moveon.org, Code Pink, and othe un-American groups.
Those People are absolute hypocrits. They embrace every pervert that comes down the pike, but if they find out your a conservative, they absolutely hate you. I know. I experienced it. I can't understand why those people would embrace Marxism like they do.
I'd like someone to do an expose' on this church, It's a den of un-American vipers. They call themselves Progressive. How is a white women having a Nigger baboies progress? How is a man sticking his dick up another man's ass progress? It's an abomination.
It takes a warped mind to hate America. It makes me so angry! I can't live with it anymore! The enviromental nuts have to be stopped.



Know This If Nothing Else

I) This was a hate crime.
I hate the damn left-wing Liberals.There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & those liberals are working together to attack every decent honorable institution in the Nation trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them.

II) This was a Political Protest
I'm protesting the liberal Supreme Court Justices for give the terrorist at Gitmo Constitutional rights. I'm protesting the Major News outlets, ABC, NBC, CBS,CNN, PBS for being the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party. It's criminal what they're getting away with. They're traitors. They must be stopped. I'm protesting the DNC running such a radical leftist candidate. Osama Hussein OBama, Yo Mama, No experience, no brains, a joke. Dangerous to America, he looks like Curious George.

III) This was a Symbolic Killing
Who I wanted to killl was every Democrat in the Senate, and House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book. I'd like to kill everyone in the Main Stream media. Bit I know these people are inaccesible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist Movement, so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken shit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It's the only way we can rid Americans of this cancerous pestilence!

In Conclusion:

No one gets out of this world alive, so I've chosen the bad years of poverty. I know my life is going downhill fast from here. The future looks bleak/ I'm sick& tired being sick & tired. I'm absolutely fed up.
So I thought I would do something good for this country. Kill Democrats 'tilthe Cops kill me. If decent, patriotic Americans could vote 3 times in every election, we couldn't stem the this tide of liberalism that's destroying America.
Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great Nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather.
I'd like to encourage other like minded people to to do what I've done. If life isn't worth living anymore, don't just kill yourself. Do something for your country before you go. GO Kill Liberals.
Tell the cops that Killed me, that I said, "Thanks, I needed that."

I have no next of kin, no living relatives, If you would - take my sorry carcass to the body farm, or donate it to science, or just throw me in the Tennessee River.

Sincerely,
Jim David Adkisson

[IIIII]

Yet you've failed to make even the most basic link between those limitations and the people you mentioned.

So you are saying that Savage and O'reilly and Limbaugh and Coulter and Malkin do not spew hate across the airwaves against Liberals?

Malkin once posted TRW addresses of protesters on her blog with the assertion that she did not Condone threats or acts of violence against people. She made that assertion so that she could cover her ass. Why else would she bring up the possibility of threats against people that were exercising their freedom of speech. It is because she knows the makeup and the ilk of her listeners and that the base emotion that she feeds is their hate. And you act like you are clueless of that? Wow

I am like Cher in that I can not understand why anyone would align themselves with the Republican party. These people like Limbaugh and hannity - coulter and O'Reilly did not single out an elderly couple and tell Adkisson to go commit murder suicide. But they spew their fucking hate to the LOW CONSERVATIVE that is too stupid - after 8 years of Bush's economic voodoo has failed him - but he is so stupid that he directs his hate towards liberals.

And the hate spewers are keeping their mouths shut and ignoring their own addle minded followers like Adkisson -after having ingested the lies and hate filled Christian political Bull Shit - then goes to the gun case for his implement of murder to kill innocents. These asswipes spew hate filled rhetoric so that they can cater to the LOW CONSERVATIVE that believes snakes can talk and a man can live in a whale's stomach for three days because these Low Lifes have Jesus and believe they are right always no matter how much hate they have for others. These LOW CONSERVATIVES will embrace the hate because their religion will condone their hate.

And these hate spewers like Malkin will need to find some GD target every day and will need to resort to lies to feed the base emotions of these LOW CONSERVATIVES when there is no truth available. Remember when Malkin attacked that little brunette cook on TV by suggesting that she supported Jihad because she wore a scarf that had a paisley design on it? Malkin's attack caused a magazine to pull the picture to avoid any controversy over the matter. And that magazine was probably fearful that a LOW CONSERVATIVE would target their business with bombs.

These hate spewers like Malkin, O'Reilly, Hannity Coulter, Savage , and the others need to lie and make up more lies to fear monger the Republican electoral base in an effort to get the support for the Republican party. This is all they have. It is sad when the Republican Party has to resort to fear and hate mopngering to remain a viable political entity. But that is the truth. These people must scare the base into seeing Liberals everywhere because it is all they have, A bunch of redneck, gun loving, scared, hate filled that can only react to fear and hate which is used to motivate them to drag their butts to the poll for the Party.

These people (the low conservatives) care not for the truth. They do not make any attempt at finding the truth but would rather believe the lies of their heroes on TV and talk radio. These people do not care about the rights of people or the concept of democracy. They would rather go to church and be told that Jesus is the way. If Jesus or his Daddy does not approve them murder and bombing is the way to go.

And then we have people like Ieovah who defend the hate and fear mongers because he is...... Well my psychic ability fails me. I don't understand. I do not know why this person supports fear and hate mongering? Does he think that it is an honorable political interchange that bolsters the ideas of the Republican Conservative party. Could it be that this guy is a Republican and defends these people because he knows that it is a way to politically help the party and he cares not for the effect it has on society and real world lives. I don't get it. Does he think that these people spewing their hate do not affect the masses that their speech is directed to? Their base? Their millions of listeners?

Seems like the people who say the truth will set you free are maybe too brain washed to think for themselves and have lost the ability to discern the truth or to even try to find it. Sad isn't it.

It is sad that a group who say that babies should not be killed re so quick to assert that nuking an entire region is just fine. Or that babies should be allowed to live but do nopt have any qualms about a tactic called "SHOCK AND AWE" that resulted in the murder of babies that was part of a war based on lies. But then it is just another political ploy that is used to energize the Low Conservatives for votes.

These are my opinions of course and here is another. I think that George W said that he felt that Freedom is a gift from God to every man. What a crock as he threw people in prisons with no evidence of crimes committed. I think he did this so that the LOW CONSERVATIVES would support him and his lies of fear mongering for political reasons. I think they did and Bush got what he wanted. And then they would say that freedom was not free. See the contradiction? The LOW CONSERVATIVES don't.

Remember the Secret Service when they said that the increased chatter of threats to Obama was due to the fear mongering by Sara Palin giving her speeches on the campaign trail? Yes they did. And that is the truth. It is what the Republican Party knows works for them.


The Secret Service, already protecting Senator Clinton, has reportedly taken an interest in the threats against the Senator posted on Bill O'Reilly's Web site. Of even greater concern, O'Reilly claims that his Web site is not an open forum, meaning that no one can just walk in and post hate on his Web site. Does this mean that Bill O'Reilly or his proxies approved of the threats against Hillary?

http://www.americablog.com/2007/07/breaking-secret-service-looking-into.html

[IIIII]

Here is the list of the 100 people that Bernard Goldberg thinks is ruining America.

http://www.philosophistry.com/specials/100-people.html

If ever you would want to find a mis-guided assault on the right to free speech just pick up Goldberg's stupid book. This man makes money from the very freedom that he would want to banish others from using because he disagrees with them. LOW CONSERVATIVES have always been arrogant to the point of demanding free men to leave the USA. And to justify Goldberg's totally un-democratic demand is that they used their freedom of speech and Goldberg disagrees.

And Goldberg's admirer, murdering coward Adkisson, read Goldberg's book and developed a desire to have these men murdered and lo now is sorry that he was not able to commit this terrorist act. Goldberg must feel proud.
:facepalm:

[Struwwelpeter]

Ironic, someone named "goldberg" talking about what's ruining America.

[IIIII]

Gee Willickers guys - Even the Religious right has turned its back on the Vitriole and hate fomented by the Religious Right and would now like to separate themselves from the stigama that is associated with the religious Right even though they are an integrated part of the Religious right.

Hahahahahahahahahaha SNORK

This is rich with IRONY. But it is just more proof of the failings of the charade of leadership by the RightWing Nut CAses.

Hahahahahahahahahaha SNORK

How appropriate.....................................

Maybe this Sunday I will go to a fundamentalist church and translate the RR nuts when they talk in toungues as the call to arms to kill and molotov everything.......................

Now that would be comedy at its best.

Hahahahahahahahahaha Snork

:D


The Religious Right's New Demand: Stop Calling Us the Religious Right
By Kyle | February 12, 2009 - 1:26pm

It seems that leaders of the Religious Right are tired of being associated with the Religious Right because nobody likes the Religious Right. Unfortunately for them, they are the Religious Right and that is what we are going to keep calling them, especially now that they are saying we should stop calling them that:
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[S]everal politically conservative evangelicals said in interviews that they do not want to be identified with the "Religious Right," "Christian Right," "Moral Majority," or other phrases still thrown around in journalism and academia.

"There is an ongoing battle for the vocabulary of our debate," said Gary Bauer, president of American Values. "It amazes me how often in public discourse really pejorative phrases are used, like the 'American Taliban,' 'fundamentalists,' 'Christian fascists,' and 'extreme Religious Right.' "

...

Gary Schneeberger, vice president of media and public relations for Focus on the Family, said that when writers include terms like "Religious Right" and "fundamentalist," they can create negative impressions.

"Terms like 'Religious Right' have been traditionally used in a pejorative way to suggest extremism," Schneeberger said. "The phrase 'socially conservative evangelicals' is not very exciting, but that's certainly the way to do it."

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[M]any groups would rather distance themselves from the Religious Right, even though they may agree on several political issues. Richard Land said he corrects numerous reporters who call him a leader of the Religious Right, explaining that he represents a group of Southern Baptists who would probably consider themselves conservative evangelicals.

"When the so-called 'Religious Right' agrees with us, we applaud their good taste and good judgment," said Land, who is president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission for the Southern Baptist Convention. Some phrases need to be eliminated from journalists' vocabulary entirely, he said. "Until Tony Perkins or Jim Dobson puts a pistol on the table and threatens to kill someone, they shouldn't be called ayatollah of the Right or the Jihadists of the Right."

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Organizational leaders like Tony Perkins of Family Research Council want a term that includes other religious groups like Catholics, Jews, and Mormons so that they can see themselves as fighting for the same cause.

"It's not accurate to say that the Christian Right or the Religious Right is simply a narrow slice of evangelicals," Perkins said. "Will everyone identify themselves as part of the Religious Right? No, but they do share a portion of values."
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If the phrase "Religious Right" has negative connotations, it probably stems primarily from the fact that the people who have traditionally represented the Religious Right have caused it to, you know, have negative connotations.

When people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson go on television and blame the 9/11 attacks on "pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, [and] all of them who have tried to secularize America," that is the sort of thing that tends to create negative impressions about the Religious Right.

And even if they were called "socially conservative evangelicals," this type of rhetoric would still create negative impressions about the term "socially conservative evangelicals" ... and then "socially conservative evangelicals" would be telling everyone to stop calling them "socially conservative evangelicals."

You see, it is not the term that it is problem - it is the Religious Right's agenda and rhetoric.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/religious-rights-new-demand-stop-calling-us-religious-right

[Iehovah]

So you are saying that Savage and O'reilly and Limbaugh and Coulter and Malkin do not spew hate across the airwaves against Liberals?

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that they have the right to do so, just as Low Liberals do. You know, those like the 9/11 Truthers, all those that told outright lies about the conservatives, omgPalin and others, in order to generate fear of them? Or like yourself, who is outright calling them terrorists in absolute violation of the traditional definition of the word, behaving much like Palin did. But of course your filthy hatred is okay, right?

Let's get this straight. There's a fellow, name of Voltaire, I think that said "I disapprove of what you say, but defend your right to say it". And I do, so long as you don't cross the limitations, the ones you QUOTED (not your bullshit extension) of that speech. Them and you, all the filthy little hate and fear mongers have the right. Are you all loudmouthed assholes? Yes.

Malkin once posted TRW addresses of protesters on her blog with the assertion that she did not Condone threats or acts of violence against people. She made that assertion so that she could cover her ass. Why else would she bring up the possibility of threats against people that were exercising their freedom of speech. It is because she knows the makeup and the ilk of her listeners and that the base emotion that she feeds is their hate.

Cover her ass? She's not liable for their actions unless she violates the laws set down. You suggest there is only one possible motive. Blindsightedness, of course, the other possibility is that she had a moment where, like you, she forgot that idiots are responsible for their own actions, now matter how much they try and blame it on someone else. Like those idiots that try and blame video games or music for their shitheadedness. You will not accept that, of course, but it should be said.

I am like Cher in that I can not understand why anyone would align themselves with the Republican party.

Same here. Same also applies to Democrats. Politics is vile.

But they spew their fucking hate to the LOW CONSERVATIVE that is too stupid - after 8 years of Bush's economic voodoo has failed him - but he is so stupid that he directs his hate towards liberals.

Same applies to you with your hate-filled rhetoric directed to Low Liberals who would gladly run out and demand, in complete violation, of the constitution, that the free speech of others be stolen while happily spewing your own vile hate.

And the hate spewers are keeping their mouths shut and ignoring their own addle minded followers like Adkisson -after having ingested the lies and hate filled Christian political Bull Shit - then goes to the gun case for his implement of murder to kill innocents.

Yeah, they didn't make this decision themselves, someone else made it for them with magic powers of telepathy to tell them things they didn't say outright. Seriously, give it a rest.

These asswipes spew hate filled rhetoric so that they can cater to the LOW CONSERVATIVE that believes snakes can talk and a man can live in a whale's stomach for three days because these Low Lifes have Jesus and believe they are right always no matter how much hate they have for others. These LOW CONSERVATIVES will embrace the hate because their religion will condone their hate.

And Low Liberals will embrace hate for much the same reason. They're pathetic, all of them. And yes, before you get butthurt again, this applies to the Low Conservatives. Ultimately, however, every single one of these assholes is responsible for their own actions.

And these hate spewers like Malkin will need to find some GD target every day and will need to resort to lies to feed the base emotions of these LOW CONSERVATIVES when there is no truth available.

Hate spewing liberals would never do such a thing of course. Oh wait.

[quote] And that magazine was probably fearful that a LOW CONSERVATIVE would target their business with bombs.

Congrats on those psychic skills. Stop pretending to know peoples' motives.

These hate spewers like Malkin, O'Reilly, Hannity Coulter, Savage , and the others need to lie and make up more lies to fear monger the Republican electoral base in an effort to get the support for the Republican party.

Hate spewers like Jeremiah Wright, Charlie James, Michael Moore and others would never do this of course.

This is all they have. It is sad when the Republican Party has to resort to fear and hate mopngering to remain a viable political entity.

It's the truth of politics. The Republicans had the WMDs, the Democrats have the Recession.

These people (the low conservatives) care not for the truth. They do not make any attempt at finding the truth but would rather believe the lies of their heroes on TV and talk radio. These people do not care about the rights of people or the concept of democracy.

Funny, that sounds a lot like you.

And then we have people like Ieovah who defend the hate and fear mongers because he is...... Well my psychic ability fails me. I don't understand. I do not know why this person supports fear and hate mongering?

Learn the difference between supporting and accepting something. Like I said, Voltaire. They have the same rights you and your ilk do. Hilariously, this is one of their favorite tactics you're using, guilt by association. Gutless, but what else is new?

Does he think that it is an honorable political interchange that bolsters the ideas of the Republican Conservative party. Could it be that this guy is a Republican and defends these people because he knows that it is a way to politically help the party and he cares not for the effect it has on society and real world lives.

Actually, according to the notorious Jim Carrey, Iehovah's a misanthropist. What that means in layman's terms is that I think you're all a pack of shitheads. But you have the right to be.

I don't get it. Does he think that these people spewing their hate do not affect the masses that their speech is directed to? Their base? Their millions of listeners?

So you have no problem with this bullshit standard being applied to you? Great, then I look forward to you shutting the fuck up now.

Seems like the people who say the truth will set you free are maybe too brain washed to think for themselves and have lost the ability to discern the truth or to even try to find it. Sad isn't it.

What's really sad is when people pretend that this brainwashing is real, but that it only happens to people they hate, not those that agree with them.

It is sad that a group who say that babies should not be killed re so quick to assert that nuking an entire region is just fine. Or that babies should be allowed to live but do nopt have any qualms about a tactic called "SHOCK AND AWE" that resulted in the murder of babies that was part of a war based on lies. But then it is just another political ploy that is used to energize the Low Conservatives for votes.

And yet, surprise, surprise, the conservatives weren't the only ones. Oh shit. Granted, that's due to some successful lying and fearmongering by Bush, but let's no be hypocritical about it. Every single one of your fellow Democrats that bought the lies is equally guilty.

These are my opinions of course and here is another. I think that George W said that he felt that Freedom is a gift from God to every man. What a crock as he threw people in prisons with no evidence of crimes committed.

We already know Dubya's a dick. Thanks for sharing.

I think he did this so that the LOW CONSERVATIVES would support him and his lies of fear mongering for political reasons. I think they did and Bush got what he wanted. And then they would say that freedom was not free. See the contradiction? The LOW CONSERVATIVES don't.

And strangely enough, so did plenty of High Conservatives, High Liberals and Low Liberals. Fearmongering's a shithead move, and he had the right people showing him how to do it.

Remember the Secret Service when they said that the chatter of threats to Obama was due to the fear mongering by Sara Palin? Yes they did. And that is the truth. It is what the Republican Party knows works for them.

Yeah, because that never would have happened with a black man going into office in this country otherwise. Oh wait. As for Sarah Palin, yeah, that was stupid, tactically and politically. After all, the only support she was going to get was from the idiots who already think "OMG SECRET MUSLIM CONSPIRACY". Sort of like "OMG SECRET 9/11 CONSPIRACY"

[IIIII]

OK time for a joke. I mean since Iehoav has posted his it must be my turn.

So the Lying murdering rightwing nut job was talking to his cell mate and said,"You know I used to go to church and pray for God to kill all the Liberals in this country. But then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so i took my gun and began killing as many as I could. Then I asked God for forgiveness."

Hahaha

[Iehovah]

OK time for a joke. I mean since Iehoav has posted his it must be my turn.

So the Lying murdering rightwing nut job was talking to his cell mate and said,"You know I used to go to church and pray for God to kill all the Liberals in this country. But then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so i took my gun and began killing as many as I could. Then I asked God for forgiveness."

Hahaha

I suppose if I believed in God, I'd be offended, right? Good thing I don't.

The only joke here is the cowardice you are displaying in trying to blow off my points as a joke simply because I disagree with you. What's next, steal my freedom of speech too? Hell, maybe go after anyone who doesn't agree with President IIII because their hatred is worse than his?

[IIIII]

I suppose if I believed in God, I'd be offended, right? Good thing I don't.

The only joke here is the cowardice you are displaying in trying to blow off my points as a joke simply because I disagree with you. What's next, steal my freedom of speech too? Hell, maybe go after anyone who doesn't agree with President IIII because their hatred is worse than his?

Your speech is so immature that stealing it would really be a backward step in the evolution of the cogent thought. People like you exercise this freedom from a place of mean-ness and anger because you are offended by free thinkers. But if I did steal it, I would show it the respect it deserves and honor it as the product of the blood shed of the many people that have died and the many who will die for people like you and others who use it to spread a bunch of lies. Lies like the Military told to Pat Tillman's family about his death.

But if I did steal your freedom of speech, I would rub it all over my butt crack and then present it back to you. And that would be an exercise in free speech and you would have to take it back and smile.

:D

[Iehovah]

Your speech is so immature that stealing it would really be a backward step in the evolution of the cogent thought. People like you exercise this freedom from a place of mean-ness and anger because you are offended by free thinkers.

Immature? Because I defend someone's right to speak their mind, even if their mind is foul? They have the same right you do - and you are doing the exact same thing. Glass houses, yes.

You call yourself a free thinker, but dismiss the core values of freethought, logic and reason that I am presenting here to you, hiding behind the cowardice that it is simply immaturity and meanspiritiedness on my part.

You see, what you keep forgetting is that I agree with you... in part. These are loudmouthed, vile assholes spewing hate. Yet you do the same thing by protecting those that do the same. I'm not protecting those assholes, I'm calling them all by the same standard. And that discipline behind my free thinking says that their speech shows them for what they are, to take it away is a denial of our basic right to free speech and an insult. They have the right to spit their hatred as you do yours, in outright lying and calling them terrorists. And this IS a lie, yet you refuse to acknowledge it, hiding behind free thinking as if it were relevant. This is not logical or reasonable. It is an outright lie.

But if I did steal it, I would show it the respect it deserves and honor it as the product of the blood shed of the many people that have died and the many who will die for people like you and others who use it to spread a bunch of lies.

Yet you're pissing all over it right here and now with your lies. You're just another nasty voice on a forum that is heavily populated with them. How sad is that? How hypocritical?

Lies like the Military told to Pat Tillman's family about his death.

Hey, congratulations. More stating of the obvious. Cheerio.

But if I did steal your freedom of speech, I would rub it all over my butt crack and then present it back to you. And that would be an exercise in free speech and you would have to take it back and smile.

And yet you have the balls to sit there and talk about other people spewing hatred. Spare it.

[IIIII]

Immature? Because I defend someone's right to speak their mind, even if their mind is foul? They have the same right you do - and you are doing the exact same thing. Glass houses, yes.

You call yourself a free thinker, but dismiss the core values of freethought, logic and reason that I am presenting here to you, hiding behind the cowardice that it is simply immaturity and meanspiritiedness on my part.

You see, what you keep forgetting is that I agree with you... in part. These are loudmouthed, vile assholes spewing hate. Yet you do the same thing by protecting those that do the same. I'm not protecting those assholes, I'm calling them all by the same standard. And that discipline behind my free thinking says that their speech shows them for what they are, to take it away is a denial of our basic right to free speech and an insult. They have the right to spit their hatred as you do yours, in outright lying and calling them terrorists. And this IS a lie, yet you refuse to acknowledge it, hiding behind free thinking as if it were relevant. This is not logical or reasonable. It is an outright lie.



Yet you're pissing all over it right here and now with your lies. You're just another nasty voice on a forum that is heavily populated with them. How sad is that? How hypocritical?



Hey, congratulations. More stating of the obvious. Cheerio.



And yet you have the balls to sit there and talk about other people spewing hatred. Spare it.

If I hated you I would not return your freedom of speech after I rubbed it all up around my butt crack.

:D

[Iehovah]

If I hated you I would not return your freedom of speech after I rubbed it all up around my butt crack. :D

My point was that you shit all over freedom of speech, and apt analogy for the entire principle your idea is based on.

[IIIII]

My point was that you shit all over freedom of speech, and apt analogy for the entire principle your idea is based on.

No you are attacking my freedom of speech simply because I have labeled their use of that freedom as an incitement to violence. And you try to say that you despice both liberals and conservatives. Your argument as put is not logical at all.

More sense would be to be neutral. But you act as if I am wrong yet you say that you are more in agreement with me than I will accept? WTF.

This only makes sense if it is coming from a troll.

[Iehovah]

No you are attacking my freedom of speech simply because I have labeled their use of that freedom as an incitement to violence.

I attack your speech because it is illogical. You claim it is an incitement to violence when it is blatantly clear to everyone but you that it is not. If it is, then why the fuck aren't these people on trial, judged, and in prison? Because.... dun dun dun. It's not. And on the other hand, you have the brass to sit there and attack me for defending their right to speech while at the same time defending the idiots who use that speech as an excuse for violence, pretending they'd never have done such things if not for the hatemongers.

And you try to say that you despice both liberals and conservatives. Your argument as put is not logical at all.

How is that not logical? I despise conservatives. I despise liberals. Why? Because they are full of hate-mongering garbage. Each has different brands of hate to share, but only the conservatives are guilty? How the fuck is THAT logical? How the fuck can you sit there and condemn one, while letting the other off the hook?

More sense would be to be neutral. But you act as if I am wrong yet you say that you are more in agreement with me than I will accept? WTF.

Why the fuck should I be neutral about a suggestion that is criminal in nature and based on lies? The only neutrality you're going to get from me is the condemmation of both sides, and calling your bullshit for what it is.

Fair and balanced, in a way those dicks at Fox could never hope to be.

This only makes sense if it is coming from a troll.

Refusing to address my point about your lying is trollish behaviour. Sounds to me like your just using this as a cop-out from further discussion. Oh shit, calling Iehovah a secret conspiratorial Republican Conservative didn't work? Quick, call him a troll! Fucking gutless.

[IIIII]

You need to explain yourself more fully \

[Iehovah]

You need to explain yourself more fully \

Assuming that was to be taken seriously, which part?

[IIIII]

Assuming that was to be taken seriously, which part?

From the start

[Iehovah]

From the start

No thanks, troll. You want to re-read it, top of the thread is way up there.

[IIIII]

No thanks, troll. You want to re-read it, top of the thread is way up there.

It is nonsense

[Iehovah]

It is nonsense

I'll take that as a seal of approval, coming from someone deliberately telling lies and hiding like a coward behind the hatred he so condemns.

[IIIII]

I'll take that as a seal of approval, coming from someone deliberately telling lies and hiding like a coward behind the hatred he so condemns.

That doesn't make any sense at all:facepalm:

[Iehovah]

That doesn't make any sense at all:facepalm:

Quick, when all else fails, use the rollseyes or the facepalm. That'll show everyone who the winnar on the intarwebz is!

Heroic.

[IIIII]

Quick, when all else fails, use the rollseyes or the facepalm. That'll show everyone who the winnar on the intarwebz is!

Heroic.

You seem to be learning. :);):cool::p:D

Haha everyone seems pleased

[musicman1234]

This happened on the watch of George W Bush and was perpetrated by a terrorist that hated the US and all of her freedoms. Bush would not acknowledge this act of terrorism on his watch but that is the truth of the despicable act by a right wingnut murdering coward. And those who are more aligned with this terrorist are allowed to spew their hate on the very free airwaves with the aid of the US government like the FCC.

Names of the terrorists that remain free to spread their hate to the Low conservatives are easily recognized - Michael Reagan - Rush Limbaugh - Ann Coulter - Sean Hannity - Michael Savage - Bill O'Reilly.

It must be made plain that the right Freedom of speech is not a right when it is used as a political weapon to foment hate against the innocents of our society.

Read the "manifesto" written by the terrorist the Limbaugh and that others have a warm feeling and a covert amount of respectful love for.

Read how he has no remorse for his crimes and his desire to kill all congressional Democrats and would be happy to resume his terrorism if he is ever released from prison.

The RightWingNut Poster boy

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/feb/10/church-shooter-pleads-guilty-letter-released/


http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/021009church-manifesto.pdf

interesting. i hate religion.
where's your proof that Limbaugh endorsed this?

[devious]

HAHA Didn't this fine rightwing religious preacher nearly run for president of the US? Yes. And the reason he did was because he knew that he could get so much support from low conservatives if he said that liberals should be murdered. A good Christian with such good Christian values and the Christians that share his hate filled rhetoric.

and i agree with him except for the killing part. these left-wing marxist commie bastards need to be stopped. bill o'reilly, rush, micheal savage, etc. are all good outlets for the truth. we live in a world with a biased media. notice how everything in the news about obama is positive, and everything about mccain and other right wingers is negative. hell i'm an independant, who was pulling for Ron Paul, i wasnt for obama nor mccain. however the modern media cannot be trusted

[Phinehas]

Ironic, someone named "goldberg" talking about what's ruining America.

Right on the money again Jim! :)