People who steal warming up cars

[monsoon malabar]

This has happened quite a bit around my neighborhood, and now everyone is getting very sketched out. Since its winter, people warm up their cars in the driveway, go inside and eat breakfast, and than come back outside expecting their car to be there. Only sometimes, the car is not there. This shows to me the A) stupidity of people in the suburbs and B) how easy it is for people to steal cars. What I don't get though, is lets say Joe steals a car. Now he doesn't want to get it chopped, he wants to keep it. Assuming he lives about 10 miles away from the area the car was obtained, what would he need to do in order to safely drive the car and have no fears, even if he got pulled over. Is this even possible?

[VINNIPOOH]

not possible. it would be reported stolen, plates reported, vin number stamped all over the cars parts/frame.

dumb question.

u can drive it around for a night and hit some jumps. do some crime. dump in water. wipe ur prints.

[monsoon malabar]

not possible. it would be reported stolen, plates reported, vin number stamped all over the cars parts/frame.

dumb question.

u can drive it around for a night and hit some jumps. do some crime. dump in water. wipe ur prints.

Im sorry, but I really can't take offense to you saying that was a dumb question when you type you with u. I wasn't planning on trying it, rather I just wanted to know the tracability of cars.
There would never be a way to get the car registered though?

[stash the weed]

Im sorry, but I really can't take offense to you saying that was a dumb question when you type you with u. I wasn't planning on trying it, rather I just wanted to know the tracability of cars.
There would never be a way to get the car registered though?

its possible, but you would have to like get VINS from junk cars replace them and all this shit.

[GermanyOrFlorida]

This has happened quite a bit around my neighborhood, and now everyone is getting very sketched out. Since its winter, people warm up their cars in the driveway, go inside and eat breakfast, and than come back outside expecting their car to be there. Only sometimes, the car is not there. This shows to me the A) stupidity of people in the suburbs and B) how easy it is for people to steal cars. What I don't get though, is lets say Joe steals a car. Now he doesn't want to get it chopped, he wants to keep it. Assuming he lives about 10 miles away from the area the car was obtained, what would he need to do in order to safely drive the car and have no fears, even if he got pulled over. Is this even possible?

You could clone it. This has been done before, and professionals have made millions cloning cars and then selling them. This is MY variation on car cloning. There's a couple ways to do it effectively, this is my way.

1. Identifying a car
Two basic ways to identify a car: VIN numbers, and license plates. Obviously when a car is repoted stolen, the VIN and license plate for that car will be entered into a database (used by police) as STOLEN. You have to replace the VIN and license plates from the car you stole with legit numbers from a different existing car.

2. Finding a car to clone
This car has to be the EXACT same make, model, and even color as the one you stole. Copy down the license plate number and VIN number(located on the dash on the driver's side. You can see it from outside the car).

3. The license plates
You'd have to learn how to make a license plate. This can be complicated as license plates have reflectivity standards and also some have security features.

4. VIN(Vehicle Identification Number)
There are many many many many places in a car that the VIN is located. There are only 2 or 3 that you need to concern yourself with. 1 on the dash close to the front window on the driver's side. 2 on the inside door panel on the driver's side. 3 on the engine block. The first one can be difficult to replicate as often times the number is stamped onto a thin steel plate. The second one is a sticker.

5. Obtaining registration.
You have to break in to the car you want to clone, grab the registration, and scan it with a portable scanner hooked up to a laptop. To cover for the break in, you can throw a baseball into the car to make it look like kids broke it, or you can just take any valuables in the car and make it look like a car prowl. In either case, make sure you put the registration back in the glovebox. Later you can print out the registration, make sure you don't make any changes to it.

If you made the license plate look good enough, you won't even get pulled over as long as the car you cloned stays legal (and granted you follow traffic rules).
Note: The VIN can also be embedded into the car's computer, so avoid body shops, DMV, and auto repair places.

There's still a lot of info left out, and im not feeling up to posting it right now. Maybe ill make a detailed guide that will include how to make plates, and replicate VINS

[VINNIPOOH]

states with annual car inspections are now hooking up the cars onboard computer to the shops computer which is connected to a statedata base. the cars vin number is on the cars computer. there is no way to change that shit.

so cant do that shit in the states. they have that where i live.

i know that not all states do this tho.

[ComradeRock]

This has happened quite a bit around my neighborhood, and now everyone is getting very sketched out. Since its winter, people warm up their cars in the driveway, go inside and eat breakfast, and than come back outside expecting their car to be there. Only sometimes, the car is not there. This shows to me the A) stupidity of people in the suburbs and B) how easy it is for people to steal cars. What I don't get though, is lets say Joe steals a car. Now he doesn't want to get it chopped, he wants to keep it. Assuming he lives about 10 miles away from the area the car was obtained, what would he need to do in order to safely drive the car and have no fears, even if he got pulled over. Is this even possible?

Joe Criminal should know better than to keep stolen goods. If he really wanted a car he should steal several other cars, sell them really cheaply to a stolen car dealer...or a moron willing to buy a car without any info to go along with it, and then Joe Criminal would take the money he got (Launder it if he wants) and buy the car he wants.

[monsoon malabar]

Interesting, but lets say you want to just keep the car for yourself. If you got plates that were just fine, and didnt change the VIN, if you got pulled over, would the cops honestly check the VIN? I mean it sounds like they would have to actually go in the car and look for it to do so. Unless of corse you were sketchy in which I'm assuming they would get probably cause to check the VIN

[jdmandy]

haha this is why i have remote start. great investment guys.

[GermanyOrFlorida]

Interesting, but lets say you want to just keep the car for yourself. If you got plates that were just fine, and didnt change the VIN, if you got pulled over, would the cops honestly check the VIN? I mean it sounds like they would have to actually go in the car and look for it to do so. Unless of corse you were sketchy in which I'm assuming they would get probably cause to check the VIN

Yea you should be OK if you learn how to replicate license plates well. I've been pulled over many times, and i've never had my VIN checked. But I wouldn't use this as a long-term solution. Maybe a year MAX

Also, a cop doesn't need to go into the car to check the VIN, you can see it from outside the car.

[cumstain]

why not just steal the cars, put them on a boat to africa/middle east and sell that shit there?

[Irukanji]

Slash and burn.

Keeping stolen shit = bad idea. Take the car to a deserted warehouse, let it cool slightly(~45mins). Unbolt the carbi, head, alternator, starter motor, stereo, speakers, maybe the dash if it's low-ish km's + digital, immobilizer, and whatever you want really(aluminium heads on new cars are pretty expensive now)

Just be careful, watch your back, and ditch the car if you even think your getting tailed.

[NaiveMonarch]

I don't know about the US, but I work as a mechanic in NZ, and all the VIN plates are in the engine bay here.
I presume they are standardised.

[SLIM]

Registering stolen cars will require you to pay out something no matter what.

Find the same model and make of the car that you've stolen at a scrapyard, buy it cheap and get all the paperwork done, then switch out the VINs and switch the plates. Easiest way. Don't expect to get hummers doing this method though, unless you're REALLY lucky and can find a beat up one in the scrap yard.

All easier to do if you'd have a fake ID I'd imagine.

You'll honestly make more money stripping and selling on craigslist/eBay, or to a dodgy scrapyard worker (there are plenty of them).

[a334jv2df]

Stolen, high end sports cars are only worth 2k. No one who chops cars would even accept a 2004 Explorer or anything similar.

Also, the VIN number isn't the only unique ID on the car. There are unique factory codes, aside from the VIN, hidden all over the car. That plus all the expensive cars have unique ID's embedded in the diagnostics.

[Trix Are For Kids]

If you're not going to keep it, you should just take all the valuable items, copper wires, tires, get the rest crushed for some cash. Also, be sure to keep any good fluids. Gas, oil, whatever is useable.

[Wizzle]

not possible. it would be reported stolen, plates reported, vin number stamped all over the cars parts/frame.

dumb question.

u can drive it around for a night and hit some jumps. do some crime. dump in water. wipe ur prints.

Actually no noy a Dumb Question. If I was you I would Print Fake Number Plates and Rego and possibly a dodgy Paint Job

[AdamSmokesCrack]

It'd probably be easier to steal/scrap/chop some cars, then use the money you make to purchase a car, rather than trying to steal one and alter the VIN and license plate. If there's no evidence on you (since you scrapped it and whatnot) you have a far better chance at getting away with this than you'd have if you tried driving around someone else's car with altered numbers.

[GermanyOrFlorida]

It'd probably be easier to steal/scrap/chop some cars, then use the money you make to purchase a car, rather than trying to steal one and alter the VIN and license plate. If there's no evidence on you (since you scrapped it and whatnot) you have a far better chance at getting away with this than you'd have if you tried driving around someone else's car with altered numbers.

In short: it's possible to get legit plates to use for a short period of time. But this is probably your best bet.

I think it was mentioned in the Heap O Scams' Mutatis Mutandis, Things to Consider:
Don't ask yourself: Man, how can I jack that xbox360?
Ask yourself: OK, how many bottles of vitamins do I have to barcode and return before I have enough money to get an xbox360?

[nostrumfiend]

In short: it's possible to get legit plates to use for a short period of time. But this is probably your best bet.

I think it was mentioned in the Heap O Scams' Mutatis Mutandis, Things to Consider:
Don't ask yourself: Man, how can I jack that xbox360?
Ask yourself: OK, how many bottles of vitamins do I have to barcode and return before I have enough money to get an xbox360?

When you ask questions like that you ruin the evolution of theft. If you let security evolve past theft then we lose. Innovate. Don't take the long way just because it requires no thought.