Vista VS XP

[bond92]

Which is better in your opinion XP or Vista?
I personally like XP because its fast, reliable and has alot of programs software and games...

[Equinox]

Which is better in your opinion XP or Vista?
I personally like XP because its fast, reliable and has alot of programs software and games...

Sure is behind the times in here.

Personally, I'd have to say Vista. But don't think I'm a vistafag, I don't really like either. XP is rather ugly, whereas Vista is a lot more.. what's the word. Pretty?

Also, Vista comes with the same software/programs/game-

Oh. Lol, troll.
8/10

[Jo0]

I recently just switched to vista 64 from windows xp. I have to say with the right tweaks and if you maintain the OS right. I spent a good day or so tweaking it and looking for resource friendly apps. Such as iTunes lite, pidgin,7-zip, Alt quicktime, vlc player, fox it, etc. I also defrag once a week. I still love xp, but vista has brought back my habits of maintaining my pc. And the speed difference is not that noticeable, vista is more responsive to my xp build. Hopefully things will be much better when it comes to Windows 7, but for now vista will do as I need to get used to the window's new GUI.

[Angry Blue Bird of Death]

Vista because of the better security. I am more familiar with XP as I don't have a Vista machine but If I were to install another Windows OS it would be Vista (or Windows 7)

[d4veg]

XP Pro. It seems way faster and way more responsive for my 3 year old system.

I don't know why anyone would factor in prettiness when comparing OS's. You can change the theme for XP easily. Zune Theme is rocking guy!

[Jo0]

XP Pro. It seems way faster and way more responsive for my 3 year old system.

I don't know why anyone would factor in prettiness when comparing OS's. You can change the theme for XP easily. Zune Theme is rocking guy!

I hope that wasnt directed towards me. My comment about the new GUI was mainly because the way its laid out and how it is somewhat more "customizable" is a little different from XP.

EDIT: sorry I just found who you were talking to.

[pygar]

If you're willing to sit down and spend maybe 2-3 hours disabling all the unnecessary services in windows vista, it can be as efficient (if not more efficient) than windows XP.


You should not measure efficiency by how much resources the OS takes. You should measure it by how much longer or shorter it takes you to complete a task.

Vista uses a feature called "Superfetch" which basically preloads apps that you use frequently to improve speed. This is why Vista appears to be eating all your RAM. Disable this (using services.msc) and see what happens to your memory usage. Linux has something like this, it's called preload.

In summary, XP is now an outdated OS, you can no longer buy it, and soon no more updates. You then have a choice, use Linux, go to vista, or go to win7. I'll take a guess, most people are going to go to win7 and say how better it is compared with vista (although they've never used it).

Why is win7 going to be released so soon (2009)? because they are not adding anything. They are removing shit and tweaking the UI of vista.

[bond92]

it can be as efficient (if not more efficient) than windows XP.

You should measure it by how much longer or shorter it takes you to complete a task.

Vista uses a feature called "Superfetch" which basically preloads apps that you use frequently to improve speed. This is why Vista appears to be eating all your RAM. Disable this (using services.msc) and see what happens to your memory usage. Linux has something like this, it's called preload.

In summary, XP is now an outdated OS, you can no longer buy it, and soon no more updates. You then have a choice, use Linux, go to vista, or go to win7. I'll take a guess, most people are going to go to win7 and say how better it is compared with vista (although they've never used it).

Bullshit!!!! First off vista is extremely unresponsive compared to XP even with all the bullshit that it comes with disabled. It still takes fucking hours to turn all that shit off. So you will finish faster on XP. Vista Superfetch basically prioritizes your applications. If people cant do that for themselves they should not be using a PC. XP is not outdated it will be in 2011 or 2012. There are still updates being released and microsoft will offically stop in 2011 or 2012.

[NaiveMonarch]

Is this a troll thread?
Seriously, no fucking question, and if you place priority on UI transparency and the like, download WindowsBlinds or something, fuck it'll still be less bloated than Vista.

[Trix Are For Kids]

WTF is the matter with all you people? Maybe if you stop "tweaking" Vista, then it will actually work well. I've used vista and xp, and I've got to say, if you do anything like deleting or modifying a program on xp the whole computer will be fucked up. If you just leave it alone, it will work perfectly. They are both good, but vista has way better security. with xp you have to pay ridiculus rates just to get a good virus scanner, and even more to remove viruses. With vista you have just about the best security there is, without paying a dime.

[IdentityCrisis]

neither, 7 is the true Windows OS, but if I am forced to pick, I'd say it depends. If your machine is running a single core processor at barely over a 2GHz, and maybe a little more than a gig of RAM, then clearly XP would be the more efficient pick. Anything over that and Vista will be worth it. It's really not a bad operating system. Remember ME and how much shit that was, and thankfully they released XP?

Kind of the same thing with Vista/7, and while 7 is the better OS. Still Vista was/is nowhere as bad as ME was.

In short, if you can it, and your seeking DX10, then it's Vista all the way (or 7).

[LiquidIce]

I've been using Vista for a month. Only thing I like is the new look. Even though I've got a Athlon X2, 3gb ram and a radeon 3100 on my lapy I'm thinking of switching down to XP, tune it with some themes and install google desktop. Should give same 'look n' feel' with less memory usage.

Also, I'm thinking about linux but the main counterthought is... compatibility. I need photoshop, old games and office 2007 (because all known friends use fucking docx format instead of the blessed odt) like air and water.

[Iskalla]

Vista makes me feel as though I'm not using my own computer, there are certain things that can't be tweaked. I prefer XP and am currently considering reinstalling it on my laptop, if not I'm trying out some Linux distros to see which works best on here. I tried Knoppix with what seemed to be no luck, couldn't connect to the Internet and could not get sound, as well as it running extremely slow.

[Waxxumus]

Vista is XP with a theme mod, thats all, oh and it takes up more memory to do so for no reason at all. The file system is very screwed up, switching from NTFS to their new system was a mistake. I will hate vista with a passion forever. Windows 7 will hopefully make up for this. Otherwise, im sticking to XP Pro/Media Center and Linux.

Oh and one last thing, do you really really really REALLY want to install this program?
Y/N

Please turn that security crap off...

[Iskalla]

Oh and one last thing, do you really really really REALLY want to install this program?
Y/N

Please turn that security crap off...

I lol'd.

[Star Wars Fan]

XP is better, at least because I have more experience with it.

[toraton]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is appalling. I'm too overwhelmed to respond to it all.

If you want to know the truth about Vista, view the benchmarks. The writing is on the wall. Vista is faster than your beloved Windows XP and so is Windows 7.

[hazmat]

The amount of misinformation in this thread is appalling. I'm too overwhelmed to respond to it all.

If you want to know the truth about Vista, view the benchmarks. The writing is on the wall. Vista is faster than your beloved Windows XP and so is Windows 7.

Its faster at the execution level, but the window manager in Vista is horrible. They fixed it in 7 however.

[NamelessNom4d]

Vista was VERY shaky at launch, but now that it is 2009, it seems to be cleaned up a LOT. I think it is better now (after only turning off Superfetch and UAC and tuning the UI to my liking). I still use XP on my main computer, and it is nice, classic, and it's still my favorite OS for usability. I installed TinyVista Ultimate on my laptop though and that is THE SHIT. I also installed Vista Ultimate x64 and I really like using it, it's very clean and pretty and it runs very very fast on an Athlon X2 4200+ woth 2GB of DDR 2 RAM.

I hope Windows 7 is as good as people say it is. I know I'm definitely going to Windows 7 for my next OS.

I used to absolutely HATE Vista by the way.

[Syphilis]

XP Pro, because I have absolutely no reason to use Vista at the moment. And Vista is far too bloated for the 30GB of space I've given Windows.

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

...after only turning off UAC...


You really shouldn't do that. Reconfigure it to be less intrusive if you will (I did), but it's a major security upgrade.

[Syphilis]

Turning off UAC is like running a UNIX system as root.

Apps need no authentication to run.

[ripley]

Turning off UAC is like running a UNIX system as root.

rm -rf isn't as much of a problem for Windows, though.

[Aevel]

I dont know which is better, I came into this thread trying to find out which is better as I am genuinely interested and ended up more confused than when I started. It's not the jargon, thats obviously always going to be involved with highly technical conversations, It's the fact that people's ego's cloud their judgement; instead of bouncing ideas back and forth and coming to a conclusion, most of you posters just act as if your opinion is the only valid one and anyone who does not share it is a complete moron.
A casual observer cam read two posts stating that XP is clearly the superior operating, spewing technical language that seems to back up their point. After reading I feel kind of stupid for even considering Vista, however there will be just as many posts saying the exact opposite and backing it up with their own information, very rarely conscientiously rebutting any opponents thoughts unless there is the prospect of increasing their own E-penis.
Im not talking just about this thread but rather the quality of advice and arguments you find all over this site and the entire internet, so Im not looking for a flame war involving someone going over my entire post with a fine tooth comb

[Auschwitz Nazi Disneyland]

Turning off UAC is like running a UNIX system as root.

Apps need no authentication to run.

The thing is, it's always been possible to run as a standard user and use runas for admin tasks. If you need the admin profile, there's a program called suDown which is like a UAC for XP/2000, or you can just win+L to switch users (in XP, anyway). People never seem to realise running as admin all the time is a bad idea, and Microsoft seems to encourage it. UAC was an excellent addition, but people generally see it as an intrusion and don't think about why it's there. Again, Microsoft have chosen the most annoying possible default settings, but I have mine configured to work the same as gtksudo.

Windows Vista is quite a good OS - true, it does use a lot in the way of resources, but its installation can be cut down (vlite) and many services and features are unnecessary for general use and can be disabled. The only MAJOR issues it really had were with drivers early on, but they've been rectified for the most part.


PS. Vista is way too fucking expensive.

[mafiabro]

im running windows vista home premium right now and i have been for over a year, and i have to say, i have no complaints. its fast and pretty damn secure. im running aero with all the fixings too and ive got 1gb of ddr2 ram and a pentium 4 @3.2ghz, so its deffently not as overbloated and intensive as they say.