W&C Random Thread

[reggie_love]

I always thought I'd be dicking around on totse forever. Now I guess I'll have to find a new hobby, or get a decent job or something.

Anyway, post your random W&C (sorry, "RTBA") related thoughts here.

[LavaRed]

Hey Reg, good to see you mate. And no, from now on you will switch to dicking around Zoklet.
;)

[LuKaZz420]

Did anybody inform Random Looney about the transition? If he doesn't mind he should come mod this place.

Glad to see you two made it, now let's just hope more people manage to find this place before totse gets finally sucked into oblivion.

[LavaRed]

I told R_L. I just hope he wants to join us. Totse still works btw.

[5.56 SS109]

http://i43.tinypic.com/34np2sz.jpg



:D

[LavaRed]

*turns green with envy* :green_smile:

[5.56 SS109]

Haha, that gun isn't mine.

It's some pic I found on another forum.


I just figured most people would get a laugh about mounting a suppressor on a $150 Hi Point.

In America the tax stamp to transfer a suppressor cost $200, so you can see the irony there.

[LavaRed]

Oh, I hadn't noticed that it was a Hi-Point. And I'm still green with envy at the owner of the cans.
Especially since I haven't had time to get my adapter fixed...
Yet.

[blue_monday]

if ever the term ghetto fabulous was applicable...

[Lobo]

Oh, I hadn't noticed that it was a Hi-Point. And I'm still green with envy at the owner of the cans.
Especially since I haven't had time to get my adapter fixed...
Yet.

Lavared , You should start your military thingy thread.

Where every member was a rank in some sort of military? I forget , you know what the fuck im talking about though.

[LavaRed]

Lavared , You should start your military thingy thread.

Where every member was a rank in some sort of military? I forget , you know what the fuck im talking about though.

The Guatemala Operations Group? I made a tribute thread about it.
Totse is still working, if anyone cares to drop by the old W&C guys.

[blue_monday]

*looks around*
I don't see Martian Luger King anywhere, thank god:)

[LavaRed]

*looks around*
I don't see Martian Luger King anywhere, thank god:)

Unfortunately, we seem to have lost Random Looney, ilovechronic, Optionryder, Swede, The_Savage, Mephistos Minion, uncle_einstein, HIFH, Groundhog Whacka..., and so many others. I hope they will gravitate towards here in time. :(

You know what this feels like, guys? Like the scene in Star Wars III where Obi Wan and Yoda go back to the temple and are picking up the pieces. :wings:

[mxs]

Unfortunately, we seem to have lost Random Looney, ilovechronic, Optionryder, Swede, The_Savage, Mephistos Minion, uncle_einstein, HIFH, Groundhog Whacka..., and so many others. I hope they will gravitate towards here in time. :(

You know what this feels like, guys? Like the scene in Star Wars III where Obi Wan and Yoda go back to the temple and are picking up the pieces. :wings:

and then we discover that internetweeddude is the one who destroyed totse !!!!

[5.56 SS109]

Internetweeddude?

Care to explain?

I'm lost.

[Faithless]

http://tinyurl.com/9rk2l9

We need some gun porn. And I can't find any glorious blued Hi Powers with a GIS. Yet.

[Tetcht Seckum]

http://bbs.zoklet.net/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=17

http://bbs.zoklet.net/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=18

My finished Eddy Stone! Too bad all I have is a tasco to put on it :(

Looking for a Nice Leupold for it. Caliber has been changed to .25-06 (I like speed)

Action is still rough, and I have only put two boxes thru it.

There is my only gun porn for the moment, it's no AK, but it's pretty to me :D

[jodevilgod1]

http://tinyurl.com/9rk2l9

We need some gun porn.

I snapped a few cell phone pics of these today at work. I'll get better ones tomorrow after we paint em. :
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0326.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0324.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0323.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0321.jpg

[Struwwelpeter]

Greetings I would like to petition LavaRed to make a suppressor how-to thread or at least a documentation of his manufacture of suppressors. I would like to know more about how he constructed a particular suppressor with wooden internals. I would also like him to describe in a bit more detail how the "five a pop" cheap suppressors made with pvc pipe, steel wool, mesh and lithium grease alone. Particularly how the steel wool is situated around the path of the bullet. Thank you very much.

[Tetcht Seckum]

Yes... Yes... Do that LavaRed. For all the small children. That need education. Yes. :biggrin:

[Mephistos Minion]

Righto Cunts I'm here.

Gun Porn:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/Masuer1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/Mauser2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/Mauser2.jpg

There's my 30-06 Mauser.

I can't wait to get home to my most recent purchase, a .243 Steyr Scout, with an aimpoint micro red dot (for rapidly shooting roos). The Picattiny rail is long enough to accomodate any scope in any configuration. I am gonna find a quick detatch mount for it so I can give it a nice long range hat also.

I'm still overseas on operations with the army. I really need to get back to Australia. Good to see a lot of you in here. Thanks for the link Lava, I finally got it to work.

A note on the cunts thing (I got in trouble on another forum) you guys understand it is an informal greeting and not meant to be offencive k?

[The Swede]

A note on the cunts thing (I got in trouble on another forum) you guys understand it is an informal greeting and not meant to be offencive k?
fuck you...

ofcourse we know :p

[Struwwelpeter]

Greetings I would like to petition LavaRed to make a suppressor how-to thread or at least a documentation of his manufacture of suppressors. I would like to know more about how he constructed a particular suppressor with wooden internals. I would also like him to describe in a bit more detail how the "five a pop" cheap suppressors made with pvc pipe, steel wool, mesh and lithium grease alone. Particularly how the steel wool is situated around the path of the bullet. Thank you very much.

Why must these forums require a three or five character limit? Does it really make a difference if someone types 5char/3char or nothing at all? Absolutely not. It baffles my mind why people cannot grasp this common sense, perhaps no one wants anyone to be dignified, or perhaps it is because after all; it shouldn't surprise me, I am the smartest man that ever graced this Earth. No one, and I am willing to bet my life savings on this, can ever surpass me mentally.

[Freelance Tax Collector]

I am the smartest man that ever graced this Earth.

You're a one trick pony is what you are.

[Connor MacManus]

I wasn't as much of a regular as some, but W&C was always my home at Totse. I don't know if Zok will/wants to, but I think switching the subforum names to the old Totse ones would do a lot to help ease my grief : l.

[jodevilgod1]

I cant believe all the OMG remake the names to totse names! posts. Totse was never that great, and its gone now. This is a new forum, and I hope that it will grow far more mature(as far as RTBA). You know what the forum name was before W&C? You guessed it! RTBA. So there you go.

If it really depresses you, then god damn. That advice is self explanitory.

[Connor MacManus]

Totse was never that great, and its gone now.

Ummmm.... gtfo?

[jodevilgod1]

Get a life MacAnus. I guess that would be GAFL :sniper:

Anywho, as promised:http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0328-1.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0329-1.jpg

Pretty nifty. The trigger is far better than any rack grade m16/m4.

:sniper:

[Tetcht Seckum]

Hey, Mephistos, what kind of mauser is that? I spy the straight bolt, so it reminds me of my Yugo 24/47, cept it has a much nicer stock than mine and finger grooves.

Very nice mauser. I love bolt actions. :)

[blue_monday]

Get a life MacAnus. I guess that would be GAFL :sniper:

Anywho, as promised:http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0328-1.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll180/joe-jitsu_album/Photo0329-1.jpg

Pretty nifty. The trigger is far better than any rack grade m16/m4.

:sniper:

How'd you do the paint? What's that on the stock?

[LavaRed]

Greetings I would like to petition LavaRed to make a suppressor how-to thread or at least a documentation of his manufacture of suppressors. I would like to know more about how he constructed a particular suppressor with wooden internals. I would also like him to describe in a bit more detail how the "five a pop" cheap suppressors made with pvc pipe, steel wool, mesh and lithium grease alone. Particularly how the steel wool is situated around the path of the bullet. Thank you very much.

As soon as I find a way to connect from home I´ll do a step-by-step guide. Plus I´ll throw in my new pet project, which is a disposable suppressor made from recycled materials, baffles and all.
From stuff you can pick up at your friendly neighborhood garbage can for 0 cost.
And no, it doesn't involve a pop bottle. It involves 8 of them. And a wet Scotch- Brite pad. You can see where this is going right class?

[jodevilgod1]

How'd you do the paint? What's that on the stock?

I prefer to use vegetation and stuff but since I couldnt fnd any, I just threw some netting over it and painted.

Krylon Camo. Not the most durable finish ever, but its easy to touch up and reversable should you decide to remove it or change your pattern.

You mean the knob on the stock? Its to adjust the length.

[Mephistos Minion]

Hey, Mephistos, what kind of mauser is that? I spy the straight bolt, so it reminds me of my Yugo 24/47, cept it has a much nicer stock than mine and finger grooves.

Very nice mauser. I love bolt actions. :)

These were made in the 50's by FN of belgium for the Colombian government. The were originally 8mm Mauser, but as the Colombians bought a bunch of M1 garands form the USA, to simplify ammo supply, they were rebarreled to 30-06 Springfield. The reciever ring has an oval shaped (well half and oval) cut into it to accomodate the longer round.

I got it in tip top shape for $250 AUD (Which is fucking cheap here) and I can group 3 shots at 100m under an inch with open sights.

[Tetcht Seckum]

These were made in the 50's by FN of belgium for the Colombian government. The were originally 8mm Mauser, but as the Colombians bought a bunch of M1 garands form the USA, to simplify ammo supply, they were rebarreled to 30-06 Springfield. The reciever ring has an oval shaped (well half and oval) cut into it to accomodate the longer round.

I got it in tip top shape for $250 AUD (Which is fucking cheap here) and I can group 3 shots at 100m under an inch with open sights.

I can attest that my Yugo Mauser (in 8mm) does not group 1" :(

Im jealous.

[LavaRed]

I can attest that my Yugo Mauser (in 8mm) does not group 1" :(

Im jealous.

You need to bed the stock. And have all the screws tightened well.
It should be perfectly capable of this accuracy.
If the bore is too worn, however, that could be another reason for the problem.

[Random_Looney]

My Yugo Mauser is still in pieces. I want to bed the stock eventually. It's been sitting in pieces for a few years now, though....
Did anybody inform Random Looney about the transition? If he doesn't mind he should come mod this place.

If you guys want me to mod and PirateJoe doesn't mind having me on board, send Zok messages requesting it.

Totse was never that great, and its gone now. This is a new forum, and I hope that it will grow far more mature(as far as RTBA). You know what the forum name was before W&C? You guessed it! RTBA. So there you go.

If it really depresses you, then god damn. That advice is self explanitory.
Agreed. I don't care about the names, but the administration was somewhat restrictive and hypocritical on that site, in my opinion. Lack of communication between the higher-ups made it a clusterfuck of epic proportions whenever someone had to take administrative action. I really felt like my hands were often kind of tied when it came to trolling, but if given permission, I'd crack down hard in hopes of having a pseudo-professional forum.

[Random_Looney]

Unfortunately, we seem to have lost Random Looney, ilovechronic, Optionryder, Swede, The_Savage, Mephistos Minion, uncle_einstein, HIFH, Groundhog Whacka..., and so many others. I hope they will gravitate towards here in time. :(

You know what this feels like, guys? Like the scene in Star Wars III where Obi Wan and Yoda go back to the temple and are picking up the pieces. :wings:

Cboys, Alek Tricity, and Exothermia are MIA too. We can get OptionRyder. Anyone have an Xbox with Xbox live?

[reggie_love]

Cboys, Alek Tricity, and Exothermia are MIA too. We can get OptionRyder. Anyone have an Xbox with Xbox live?

Didn't Alek deploy or something? I thought I remember him saying he wouldn't be back for a while.

[Random_Looney]

Didn't Alek deploy or something? I thought I remember him saying he wouldn't be back for a while.

I thought he was rejected from service due to a psych eval, and he was pissed because corrupt officials were accepted whereas some minor issue from years ago prevented him.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/Gerbil_Unit/DSCF0140.jpg

There's my long range AR.

[LavaRed]

I thought he was rejected from service due to a psych eval, and he was pissed because corrupt officials were accepted whereas some minor issue from years ago prevented him.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/Gerbil_Unit/DSCF0140.jpg

There's my long range AR.

Beautiful. Mind if I ask about the barrel specs?

[Random_Looney]

Beautiful. Mind if I ask about the barrel specs?

Thanks :-). It's a 20 inch threaded barrel of unknown manufacture without any imprints or laser engraving. I picked it up from a guy who used to do relatively long range shooting and who claimed it was match grade (hence lack of roll markings). He said he believed the rifling was 1/9". It's threaded and currently sports a Vortex FH. The upper is Colt, the lower is CMT, the bolt is Bravo Company, and it has a DPMS LPK. The lower is slightly out of spec, and I can send it back, have it destroyed, and get a new one with the same serial sent to me that should drop free my 30 round mags. But, since I already have an M4gery and another stripped lower that is in spec, I've been lazy.

[Dark_Me]

Hey guys.

RIP &TOTSE. ;_;

[The Swede]

HOLY SHIT! LOONEY POSTED A PIC OF ONE OF HIS FIREARMS! HELL IS BOILING OVARRR!

Lol, hey Looney, nice AR you got there.

[LavaRed]

Hey guys.

RIP &TOTSE. ;_;

Welcome there. We missed you.

[The Swede]

Hey Hector, how's MSN working out for ya?

Miss talking to you *rawr*

[The Swede]

Swede's rant about the new regulations in the Armed Forces!

<70's: You are given a Mauser and 2000 rounds for it.

80's: You are given a AK4 and 1000 rounds of it.

90's You are given a AK4, a recieverlock and the key.

00's: You are given a AK4b, a recieverlock but you don't get they key, the key is kept by your CO between excersizes.

Will probably happen: 10's: Your AK4b is stored centrally at your HQ in a safe.



Soo, why the fuck do we have a HomeGuard if we can't defend our fucking country?:mad:


edit: some gun pr0n.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Klajnepojken/HomeGuard/PA260037.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Klajnepojken/HomeGuard/PA260017.jpg

[Random_Looney]

HOLY SHIT! LOONEY POSTED A PIC OF ONE OF HIS FIREARMS! HELL IS BOILING OVARRR!

Lol, hey Looney, nice AR you got there.

Thanks. I have a pretty decent KISS barebones M4gery too. As far as guns go, I think I've only posted pictures of 4 on a forum, ever. Someone's got a little more than 4 ;-).

[blue_monday]

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/Gerbil_Unit/DSCF0140.jpg

There's my long range AR.

How does the collapsible stock do as far as accuracy long range?

[Random_Looney]

How does the collapsible stock do as far as accuracy long range?

It's alright. It's a 6 position, and it allows me to change length of pull from sitting/prone pretty easily, which is my only complaint with A2 stocks.

[blue_monday]

We got our group buy mosin nagant shipment in this week. 15 91/30's and 2 M44's. With the large order discount the 91/30's were $75 and the M44's were $105. I just got one 91/30. If i can get CombatWomabt over next weekend with his digital camera i'll put up some pics of stuff around the safe.

[ilovechronic]

Unfortunately, we seem to have lost Random Looney, ilovechronic, Optionryder, Swede, The_Savage, Mephistos Minion, uncle_einstein, HIFH, Groundhog Whacka..., and so many others. I hope they will gravitate towards here in time. :(

You know what this feels like, guys? Like the scene in Star Wars III where Obi Wan and Yoda go back to the temple and are picking up the pieces. :wings:

I am here. I signed up like the day totse was going down, I just havnt been on lately. I am back though.

I thought he was rejected from service due to a psych eval, and he was pissed because corrupt officials were accepted whereas some minor issue from years ago prevented him.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/Gerbil_Unit/DSCF0140.jpg

There's my long range AR.

GASP! R_L posted one of his guns! I like your style nice rifle. But it is looking a little naked you need atleast on accesory with all those rails ;)


Shalll I add my previous gun porn from w&c, why not.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0089.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0096.jpg
Ar15 carbine(CAR15) + reddot+Springfield XD

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0102.jpg
Saiga 7.62x39
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0094.jpg
m44
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0097.jpg
springfield xd
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0099.jpg
MY long range rig/coyote blaster
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0101.jpg
walther p-22
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0091.jpg
the mini14, one of my favorite designs.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0102.jpg

[Random_Looney]

I am here. I signed up like the day totse was going down, I just havnt been on lately. I am back though.

Excellent. I believe that makes most of us. Aside from OptionRyder, who is reachable through Xbox live, and Cboys, I can't think of anyone else who'd find us. Here's hoping HIFH joins.



GASP! R_L posted one of his guns! I like your style nice rifle. But it is looking a little naked you need atleast on accesory with all those rails ;)

I want to put a bipod and a scope on, but I am also seriously considering adding a laser targeting module and bayonet. The reason for the other two are because I have all the evil features I can think of on that rifle; bayonet lug, collapsible stock, flash hider, scary rails....

You have a nice collection. I like the Saiga. Before the political scare, I was handling a friend's pretty frequently with considerations towards buying.

[5.56 SS109]

I've been contemplating selling my recessive gene of a Savage and buying a Saiga .223 and topping it with a side mount POSP.

Because my Savage can't hit shit.

I still need to get the crooked (factory produced) recoil lug replaced with a machined .25" thick one that I bought but I'm still pessimistic about that solving my problems.

The crooked recoil lug seems to be torquing the barrel to the side when my stock screws are tightened to the factory reccomended 60 in/lbs.

I didn't have that issue with the shitty factory tupperware stock because it seemed to "give" more and conform to whichever way the gun was twisting.

But my Choate Ultimate Varmint stock has the action screw down onto aluminnum "V" bedding blocks and that extra torque seems to magnify all the issues with the recoil lug.


If that makes sense.


It just pisses me off that Savage couldn't get that right at the factory.

And I can't send the gun back, becase it's "old" pre-2003 manfacture and for some shitty reason they don't work on guns made before 2003.


Speaking of Savage, has The_Savage joined?



Also, I was LOLing the whole time I was typing this because of the smilie


:fap::fap::fap::fap::fap::fap:

[ilovechronic]

hey what are the russian reddots called that can go on the saiga? I have heard they are the russian = to a aimpoint.


anyone know what i am talking about?


and thanks R_L, I need some rails on my ar15 carbine though ;) it also has all the evil features that come on the upper because it is a no ban model, i suppose that gives it more value?

glad to see everyone is around.

[ilovechronic]

glad to see i was missed ;)

[Random_Looney]

hey what are the russian reddots called that can go on the saiga? I have heard they are the russian = to a aimpoint.


anyone know what i am talking about?


Kobra?

and thanks R_L, I need some rails on my ar15 carbine though ;) it also has all the evil features that come on the upper because it is a no ban model, i suppose that gives it more value?

Only if there is a ban.

[5.56 SS109]

hey what are the russian reddots called that can go on the saiga? I have heard they are the russian = to a aimpoint.


anyone know what i am talking about?


and thanks R_L, I need some rails on my ar15 carbine though ;) it also has all the evil features that come on the upper because it is a no ban model, i suppose that gives it more value?

glad to see everyone is around.


A Kobra is a Russian EOTech and, from what I understand, they have some issues.

The PK-01 sight is the Russian Aimpoint and it only has an on/off switch and brightness is auto corrected by a sensor on the sight. (ie, you don't have to click to different power levels to change the brightness).

The Kobra sits directly over the center of the AK and I think the PK-01 does too.


Personally though, I would buy a PK-AS.

The PK-AS is a "dot in a doughtnut" non magnification optic.

However, it has a glass etched retice and the crosshairs are black. So even if you are out of batteries the optic is still useful.

It also has an illumination feature so it can mimic a red dot sight.

It is a probably the best CQB optic available for AK style rifles.

And I think it runs about $250 which is the same price as the Kobra.

As far as I know there are 3 versions of the PK-AS.

The regular PK-AS sits on the left side of the rifle.

The PK-ASV sits over the center of the rifle (like a standard scope).

The PK-ASW mounts directly to a standard Weaver rail for use on non-AK rifles.

My advice, buy the PK-ASV.



Link to the PK-ASV

http://www.binocularsmart.com/scopes/pk-as-red-dot-rifle-scope-akm-ak-saiga-vepr-sight-russian-military-sniper.shtml



PK-AS on the left, PK-ASV on the right:

http://i41.tinypic.com/1z2d76h.jpg


PK-AS series reticle:

http://i41.tinypic.com/hu4nxw.jpg

[ilovechronic]

Yeah it was the pk, thanks alot. i was looking at the pk-01 or pk-a is it decent? I will look at the kobra also.

[5.56 SS109]

Well, the PK-01 is ONLY a red dot.

The PK-AS is a 0x optic with a reticle, think of it as a "black dot, lol. But you can turn on the illumination and use it like you would a normal red dot.


They are both good optics and Russian optics seem to be built like tanks.


The main reason to get a PK-AS over a PK-01 is because when your batteries run out or on the off chance the wiring fails, the PK-01 becomes useless.

Whereas it doesn't matter with the PK-AS and it would still be usable.

The guy named "Tantal" on AR15.com and the owner of avtomats-in-action.com says the absolute BEST optic for the AK series rifle is the PK-AS (or PK-ASV).

And, when it comes to AKs, Tantal is the man to ask.



Also, do you plan on making you Saiga "evil" by adding a regular AK stock and pistol grip and converting it to use standard AK mags?

[ilovechronic]

Well, the PK-01 is ONLY a red dot.

The PK-AS is a 0x optic with a reticle, think of it as a "black dot, lol. But you can turn on the illumination and use it like you would a normal red dot.


They are both good optics and Russian optics seem to be built like tanks.


The main reason to get a PK-AS over a PK-01 is because when your batteries run out or on the off chance the wiring fails, the PK-01 becomes useless.

Whereas it doesn't matter with the PK-AS and it would still be usable.

The guy named "Tantal" on AR15.com and the owner of avtomats-in-action.com says the absolute BEST optic for the AK series rifle is the PK-AS (or PK-ASV).

And, when it comes to AKs, Tantal is the man to ask.



Also, do you plan on making you Saiga "evil" by adding a regular AK stock and pistol grip and converting it to use standard AK mags?

I dont know if I will do a full conversion yet. maybe when if I get bored of it.

I know how to convert ak mags to work if they are metal it is not hard. You don't even have to put in a feed ramp. You need a welder and a benchgrinder or a hand file atleast to do it.

Did you do your conversion?

[5.56 SS109]

As of now all I have is a GP WASR 10/63.

I might buy a Saiga soon, but I don't think I would convert it.

I'd add a skeletonized SVD style stock and a POSP side mount scope and make it more of a semi auto scoped rifle as opposed to and open sight fighting rifle.

Or maybe I'll buy a Romanian RPK and make it a Tabuk style rifle.

[Tetcht Seckum]

So, I took my sks carbine that is, uh, nearing the end of it's life, kinda.

I soldered a washer on the rear sight, just to see if it would make a good peep sight (if I get sick of it, the solder will melt right off).

And this is what I got. I must say, that unlike before, I can actually see what I am shooting at. I cut the front hood down a little, but it still guards the post. I slipped an orange tube over it to aid in sighting in.

I have seen peep sights advertised- for way, way too much, worth more than this rifle is anymore. So I said, "fuck it, why not?"

I likes it. :D It works. My accuracy with it is actually better, not that I have shot more than 50 rounds through it yet.

http://bbs.zoklet.net/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=94

[ilovechronic]

So, I took my sks carbine that is, uh, nearing the end of it's life, kinda.

I soldered a washer on the rear sight, just to see if it would make a good peep sight (if I get sick of it, the solder will melt right off).

And this is what I got. I must say, that unlike before, I can actually see what I am shooting at. I cut the front hood down a little, but it still guards the post. I slipped an orange tube over it to aid in sighting in.

I have seen peep sights advertised- for way, way too much, worth more than this rifle is anymore. So I said, "fuck it, why not?"

I likes it. :D It works. My accuracy with it is actually better, not that I have shot more than 50 rounds through it yet.

http://bbs.zoklet.net/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=94
yeah thats cool and all but you need it PERFECT for it to work properly.

[blue_monday]

I took a 20 year old male shooting for his first time today, he loved it. Be proud of me:)

Oh, and he wasn't that bad of a shot either for it being his first time.

[Random_Looney]

I took a 20 year old male shooting for his first time today, he loved it. Be proud of me:)

Oh, and he wasn't that bad of a shot either for it being his first time.

I would buy you drink. I honestly believe that as long as the individual is mature enough to shoot (which he seems to have proven), you have performed an admirable deed benefiting your society. I wish people felt compelled to do this out of civic duty.

[Tetcht Seckum]

yeah thats cool and all but you need it PERFECT for it to work properly.

Honestly, it seems to work well enough from what I have shot within 100 yards.

I don't see just how perfect, considering you can adjust windage in your front post, and elevation from the rear. It is no longer the most accurate rifle in the world mind you, it has seen it's duty.

I will paper it as soon as the weather becomes less than ass-tastic. I bet it is just as unremarkable as it was before.

[5.56 SS109]

Behold!

The Jamming Bolt Action!

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=42gic&s=5)

[Random_Looney]

Topic Alert!

http://bbs.zoklet.net/showthread.php?p=148773#post148773

[Lanny]

[QUOTE=ilovechronic;49691]http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/IMG_0091.jpg
the mini14, one of my favorite designs.

My uncle owns one of these, loud as a bitch if you don't wear earmuffs but good stooping power and good weight.

[The Swede]

loud as a bitch if you don't wear earmuffs
:facepalm:
Is it just me or are most firearms loud? *laughs*

[5.56 SS109]

My uncle owns one of these, loud as a bitch if you don't wear earmuffs but good stooping power and good weight.

:facepalm:

[The Swede]

Oh by the way, i've heard about some intresting hobbys but this is fucked up, badly..
http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70611&highlight=swedish+soldier

[LavaRed]

Oh by the way, i've heard about some intresting hobbys but this is fucked up, badly..
http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70611&highlight=swedish+soldier

You do know I'm into collecting 1/6 scale action figures and customizing them too, right?

[asilentbob]

Hello Random_Looney!
Glad to see that you moved somewhere else to keep sharing your wisdom. I've been wondering where some of the other pyro/chem guys went. Haven't heard a thing from quite a few of them. Mokothar for instance. A few of us have been just keeping in contact with IRC for years now... but its sad that alot of the really bright members just dropped out :(...

At some point far back on TOTSE I think I promised to post more in the weapons section... Then I never really kept up with that. Since there isn't a separate BB type forum here (and even if there was it wouldn't be the same)... I might post here a bit more... or follow it more atleast. Dunno. Time constraints. I'll probably be at APC, the forum of everything, SMDB, and E&W more now for pyro and chemistry. Made a promise to one of the E&W mods that visited our little IRC right after &T went down... to actually read and post at E&W more. Man this forum shit is getting hard to keep up with though when I have classes, random incomplete projects, and not enough time. I need 48 hour days.

All in all though life seems to be going pretty well here. I have alot of pyro/chem options open to me in the future and they all look good. Hope things are going good for you!

[Random_Looney]

Hi! It's good to see you posting here. Do you have MSN? I believe it was your username @hotmail? I'm not on a whole lot, but I'd love to stay in touch, especially if you're not posting here as much as you'd like due to other obligations.

Mokothar hasn't been online a whole lot- I left a message at his blog. There've been requests about a BB forum here, and if you had time, I'd request you mod there. Even if you don't have a lot of time, if we had 3 or 4 mods, maybe we could make something out of it. I'm in the middle of a new BSD install, but maybe I think it would be great to try and get the old BB band together. I can completely commiserate on time constraints. I really wouldn't mind setting up our own little darknet subsect within the community in general, as long as it didn't faction out, but rather was more of an inclusive as opposed to exclusive clique. Mephestos posts around here.

We've been pretty lucky in the W&C arena with keeping a lot of our old members, even though we've taken some casualties :-(.

[asilentbob]

Contact stuff PMed.

Hmm... I could probably mod... After this summer I'm going to transfer to some college and try to buckle down and really study. Much like K9 did... Probably won't happen like that though... So I would probably have enough time to check the forum a couple times most days.

Its weird though... feels like I'm the only guy whos still doin pyro. Even so I only get to like 3 or 4 times a year for club shoots... Or working on shows... which I didn't really count in my numbers... it just isn't the same.

[Cloaked Dagger]

Excellent. I believe that makes most of us. Aside from OptionRyder, who is reachable through Xbox live, and Cboys, I can't think of anyone else who'd find us. Here's hoping HIFH joins.

You forgot me! I do have a tendancy to disappear from the forums though, but I'm back again.

[blue_monday]

wait, so is RTBA needing a mod or what?

[Random_Looney]

You forgot me! I do have a tendancy to disappear from the forums though, but I'm back again.

True. I'd asked about you in IRC and thought you'd completely moved on. I am glad to see you did not.

[blue_monday]

Many lol's were had at this turning up when i googled "saturday night special"
http://www.xesyork.com/images/N3191-saturday_night_special_cock_stroker.jpg

[reggie_love]

Is it just me or are them some gross looking orifices?

[blue_monday]

they look a little off.

RL, is this place in need of another mod? CombatWomabt told me i should try for modship cause of how much i'm in here, but i think its pretty well covered isn't it?

[Random_Looney]

they look a little off.

RL, is this place in need of another mod? CombatWomabt told me i should try for modship cause of how much i'm in here, but i think its pretty well covered isn't it?

I don't see a need, but you might pm piratejoe. I'm cool either way.

[blue_monday]

News from the local gun show today: My friend paid $200 for a very shitty mosin nagant, and $40 for 40 bullets. He came over to shoot it and so i brought out mine, which i paid $75 for in december and told him when he asked the price i paid.

He then told me that the nagant was better in every way than the Mauser 98 because the germans copied the nagant, and that "the enemy at the gates" was a good source for the history of these rifles. If ever a facepalm was needed, it's now:facepalm:

[The Swede]

Mauser 98 because the germans copied the nagant
You didn't know this?







;)

[Kyoki]

I finished basic training to find totse gone :(. Good to see a lot of people have migrated. I guess this can be my new home now.

[The Swede]

Welcome to hell, where W&C is like BI and BI is like HB.

[blue_monday]

I finished basic training to find totse gone :(. Good to see a lot of people have migrated. I guess this can be my new home now.

Kind of hits you pretty hard at first huh?

[Mephistos Minion]

I finished basic training to find totse gone :(. Good to see a lot of people have migrated. I guess this can be my new home now.

Hey mate you are Australian right? ARA or GRES?

Check PM for contact info.

[Kyoki]

ARA, currently a wannabe officer. I sent a reply to your PM.

[The Savage]

Whats ARA and GRES stand for?

Australian Regular Army?

[Kyoki]

Yep, Australian Regular Army and General Reserve.

[Random_Looney]

You guys know how much I love bureaucracy... Smith and Wesson sent two magazine rebates instead of one for my M&P. 6 mags for my compact... 4 were free due to bureaucratic clerical errors.

[Cloaked Dagger]

You guys know how much I love bureaucracy... Smith and Wesson sent two magazine rebates instead of one for my M&P. 6 mags for my compact... 4 were free due to bureaucratic clerical errors.

Gotta love bureaucracy, if there is an inefficient way to do something bureaucracy will find it.

[The Savage]

This isn't going to end well....

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/18/wikileaks-reveals-se.html
http://tinyurl.com/de5wga

And here's where you can download the list:
http://kensingtonvictoria.com/?p=1121

Seems mostly child porn, but I think we know where it's heading. If all the aussies suddenly stop posting one day....... :eek: :rant: :mad: .

(I tried to find a smilie with savage getting on a jet and going to a new country, unfortunatly the inconsiderate bastards haven't made one :D )

[The Swede]

The Swede just turned 18!

Will try to get a license 'till the summer, i've got my drivers license and car to throw money at it for the moment.

[LavaRed]

The Swede just turned 18!

Will try to get a license 'till the summer, i've got my drivers license and car to throw money at it for the moment.

Happy birthday Seb. You definitely deserve it.
Now you'll be able to do all those things you were waiting for. Welcome to adulthood my friend!.

[Vicarious Reality]

Damn snow, the shooting ranges aren't open so i can't take my fucking license

[Kyoki]

The other day I was doing a timed shoot, five rounds in 25 seconds at 300m. My first time through I took a breath between shots. I did alright on that one. Enough to pass, but nothing special.

The second time through I decided to try holding my breath and getting all five out in quick succession. This worked a lot better. All five rounds were in a nice tight group in the centre of the target.

Anyone else ever tried shooting like that? I did it a couple of times over the day and got good results. I managed a personal best 5 round group at 100m that way.

(I was using an F88 (steyr AUG) with a 1.5x optic sight in the "prone, unsupported position")

[The Savage]

How do you like the ballance and feel of the Steyr? I've never so much as picked one up but they look insainely out of ballance and kinda cumbersome to use.

[Kyoki]

I found it shouldered/pointed quite easily, but the tall guys in my section didn't feel the same way. You might remember I'm knee high to a grasshopper. It seems to be a person to person thing, but shorter people seem happier with it (and more accurate...).

On a side note, if I'm firing prone, I can't comfortably use the front handgrip. It's too far out. I have to have my 'non master' hand between it and the trigger guard. I'm told a fair few people prefer this even if they can use the front grip.

I will say that it is my understanding, that compared to the M4, it is far easier to dual wield Steyrs ;).

[Mephistos Minion]

LF6 Kyoki? 235 (First Class Shot) is my best so far on it. Group/Zero I usually average below 70mm, mid 50's if I am competing with other digs.

I use the front hand grip because I am lanky. Felt odd at first coming from a traditional bolt action history of shooting, but can't argue with results.

[Kyoki]

I think it was LF3, but don't quote me on that. It was scored out of 200 (I got 170) and all from prone unsupported, with both timed and deliberate parts. Funnily enough my rapid groups tend to be better than my deliberate at all ranges.

I don't know when I get to do LF6, but I'm looking forward to it. Any tips for me?

[Mephistos Minion]

Nothing that I will post on here mate.

Basically just don't get too wrapped around the axels about the whole deal. Just relax and do the best you can.

You have my MSN addie if you wanna talk more when you can.

[Kyoki]

I'm still posting from my phone so I can't use msn yet. I should be getting my computer in a couple of days though, I'll add you then.

[The Savage]

In random news, I finally come across some Winchester .22 Long "Z" (Zimmer) rounds - 29gr solid at 770fps -They're pretty sweet little rounds, from my rifle they're quieter than regular subsonics run through a suppressor, and when shot through a can they're probably as silent as you will get (abut the same as firing a primed case with your suppressor attached). I took them for a quick test and found that (as expected) Terminal ballistics were lacking and pentration wasn't great either but i still knocked off 14 out of 16 in about and hour with the longest shot being about 70yards (Hit twice in the chest without dropping).

[Random_Looney]

Topic alert.
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?p=371030#post371030

[The Savage]

I just pulled my .22 magnum out of the bedding compound i placed it in last night. I was using cooking spray (canola oil) for a release agent which i haven't used before so that little voice in my head was saying "You ain't gettin that fucker back out" the whole time i was doing it :D .

After a couple of whacks with a mallet I slid a screw driver into the action (where the bolt goes) and pulled up on it while pulling up on the barrel with my other hand and with a *crack* it broke free, 15 minutes later after removing all the greasy plasticine and tape i was looking at a pretty neat bedding job. There are a couple of little spots on the sides where the action sits that didn't fill properly with epoxy (I always seem to have that problem, maybe I shoud let my epoxy get thicker before i apply it?).

In a couple of days when it's hardened properly I'll take it and see how it goes on paper.

Tonight I'm bedding a Winchester .22LR Bolt action so hopefully it will go as smoothly as this one did :cool: .

Edit:
Also question for aussies: What are you paying for .22Lr ammo at the moment? There has been a HUGE price rise where i am, Win Power-points/superspeed/laser ect are going for $65 - $70 per Brick, Even those cheap-o Bushman's are selling for ~ $55/brick!!! I thought it might just be one place being rip offs but it seems to be the norm atm :( .

[The Swede]

The Swede has more pictures from the Homeguard.

Will only show 2 for now tough, gotta got.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Klajnepojken/Homeguard%202/P4180310.jpg?t=1240133476
The Swede and his own sexy-ness.
Weapon: Swedish modified AK4b(G3A3) with bayonet.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Klajnepojken/Homeguard%202/P4180317.jpg?t=1240133482
The Swede shooting left hand behind a "wall".

[blue_monday]

The Swede has more pictures from the Homeguard.

Will only show 2 for now tough, gotta got.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Klajnepojken/Homeguard%202/P4180310.jpg?t=1240133476
The Swede and his own sexy-ness.
Weapon: Swedish modified AK4b(G3A3) with bayonet.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s79/Klajnepojken/Homeguard%202/P4180317.jpg?t=1240133482
The Swede shooting left hand behind a "wall".

Nice. Are you a righty or lefty?

[The Swede]

Righty all the way, my left stance sucks, but so does my right stance wiith the AK4b, the stock is way too long for me.

[The Savage]

The Winchester .22 come out of the stock pretty easily revealing a pretty damn sexy bedding job, no gaps, even coverage, nice straight lines.....Except for on the right side of the action, where a piece of bedding about 2" long was still attached to the action when it was removed :rant: :rant: :head_wall: :head_wall: :mad: .

I'm going to run some rounds throughit tomorrow to see how it goes anyway but i have a feeling i'm gonna have to remove the bedding from the action and re do it :facepalm: :( .

[blue_monday]

Anyone heard about the kel tec RFB that's supposed to come out later this year? I'd love one, except the prices i've been seeing say $1500-2000. I'd love to get the 18 inch carbine type version.
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn75-e.htm

[Mephistos Minion]

Savage in regards to ammo prices, last time i got a brick of 525 federal .22LR it was $35. That was 6 months ago though, I will check next time I buy. It may just be your end of the state though. Damn northern monkeys!

[jimany]

I just lurk here so I find it slightly unhealthy that I recognized this, but on an It's always Sunny in Philadelphia commentary Charlie day says his stunt double is a guy named Hector From Guatemala who lives in his basement:o

Unless I'm tripping and you aren't hector from Guatemala...

[LavaRed]

I just lurk here so I find it slightly unhealthy that I recognized this, but on an It's always Sunny in Philadelphia commentary Charlie day says his stunt double is a guy named Hector From Guatemala who lives in his basement:o

Unless I'm tripping and you aren't hector from Guatemala...

Lol, no, I live in no basement, if memory serves. My HQ is an attic, actually.
But Hector is a somewhat common name throughout Latin America, so the coincidence doesn't surprise me. :thumbsup:

[jimany]

...He was joking. I just thought hector from Guatemala was an unusual combo to come up with. But I guess not.

[The Savage]

Pics of a rifle stock i refinnished recently. As you can see it was in a pretty bad way.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9592/abefore1.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/612/abefore2.jpg

So I saned it back first with 80 grit to remove whatever the fuck used to be on it, then moving down to 180 grit to give me a smoother look but still leaving the grain open for the oil. Once that was done it was wiped down with a lint free rag dipped in Metho to remove all the dust and allowed it a couple of hours to dry (I know that's overkill with alcohol but i got busy doing something else) Then 10 coats of Tru-oil were applied 18 - 36 hours apart, lightly buffing the stock with steel wool before each coat.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6168/cafter1.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2932/cafter3.jpg

An improvement if nothing else.

[The Swede]

Look pretty good there!

I was like: "What the fuck? A Model 70?" when i looked at the first picture.

[The Savage]

Thanks, It's a model 320. The main flaw i can see in it is that it only uses one screw to hold the metal work in, on the plus side it's trigger is pretty sexy.

It's the same rifle i mentioned in post #112, With the failed bedding job i was still able to put 2x 10-shot groups into less than an inch at 50y with CCI Mini-Mags but all other kinds of ammo i tried would shoot into 1.5 - 2", so i've pulled out the crappy section of bedding and the new stuff is sitting in there hardening ATM.

[The Swede]

Edit (2009-05-13):

Yesterday i went beaver hunting with my father, it was all good. We didn't get anything but the weather, while sometimes rainy was awesome for some photographs. Took a few pictures of the landscape and posed a bit.
We're gonna try again tomorrow, maybe we'll get a deer if we're lucky.

http://forumbilder.se/images/da3200973733P1db6.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3433/p5120622.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2475/p5120615.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5674/p5120630censurerad.jpg
http://forumbilder.se/images/023200973817P79d3.jpg

[5.56 SS109]

So, apparently Ruger makes the Desert Eagle frames for Magnum Research.

http://www.ruger.com/Casting/P-Overview.html

Look at the frame on the right in the last picture.

IDK why I posted this, I just thought it was funnt.

(And this is the random thread, isn't it? :D)

[ZX9R]

Savage in regards to ammo prices, last time i got a brick of 525 federal .22LR it was $35. That was 6 months ago though, I will check next time I buy. It may just be your end of the state though. Damn northern monkeys!

Wow!

I picked up two of the federal packs at my local walmart two weeks ago for $17.63 a box.

Sigh...

They used to be $7-8.00 a box about ten months ago.

[blue_monday]

A guy from my dad's work is holding a class on hostage and kidnapping prevention and what to do after it happens this weekend. The guy's a full time Jujitsu instructor on top of whatever he does at my dad's workplace, he's an ex-bodyguard, and apparently spent two years training in Israel, don't know what he did over there though. He's taught FBI, cops, and CIA apparently.

Day one is more or less a seminar, as far as i can tell, on prevention steps and such, and maybe a little of how to deal with an abduction of you or someone else.

Day two is a firearms course, which is the best part. Why? Because this guy needed a range to shoot at, so my dad is letting him use ours. That means I'll get at least day 2 of this thing for free (its $65 a day, or $150 for all 3 days). Not sure what all will be in the clinic that day though.

Day 3 is going to take place at some paintball/airsoft place and focus on room clearing and stuff like that.

tl/dr I get a free class on hostage prevention.

[Mephistos Minion]

^^ Win. Last thing I got for free was an Altama T shirt because some boots I ordered came late. I think you win.

[FrY]

xanax and Coffee + spliff = Buzzzzzz

[blue_monday]

Today was the day of the shooting clinic. The 2 instructors were great, idk if i should put up their names or not, but one guy does classes all over the country i guess.

The clinic covered basics first, stance, drawing and aiming, etc. They did some chamber clearing drills and a drill on how to load a mag. I caught a bunch of little details here and there that i'd never thought about.

Next they did live firing. This was about 3 hours long in the afternoon, which happened to be 100 degrees and no wind. The class was mostly of beginning shooters, even a few guys that had never shot their guns(if they'd even shot before), so the first bit of it was kind of tedious. Once people got the hang of it it picked up. We did close up speed shooting drills, a few accuracy drills, and we finished off with a balloon shoot. The Israeli instructor pulled my dad and i aside and asked if we had any snake shot for a pistol, i ran and got my 44 and some bird shot rounds and the guy proceeded to show the class the best trick shooting on these balloons ever(behind the back, from the hip, etc). He did tell them it was birdshot though, it was a good laugh.

Idk if it was the heat or the number of rounds shot, but i've never seen so many jams. When i say jams, i'm not talkin one every so often either, it was like every mag or every few shots with some. People brought:
Walther p22(jammed all the fucking time, major problems)
Ruger P944(jammed)
Berretta M1951(jammed, never heard of it before today, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_M_1951)
XD 40(jammed)
Taurus 24/7 pro in 40(piece of shit, i used to want one but that changed)
Colt 22 like this one:http://www.a-human-right.com/colt22.html (jammed every first round in the mag, sometimes more)
Kahr 9(this gun didn't jam once, it shot great too and i think i'll look more into kahr arms because of this)
Browning Buckmark(no jams, excellent shooter)
Ruger Mk2(no jams, great gun except the mag release)

The teacher recommended 22lr for someone not training with a gun every day as a concealed carry gun. Take that how you want it, but his reasoning was shown in how bad some of these guys were shooting with the 9's and 40's, especially after some of the drills meant to pump up adrenaline. The 22's were staying on target and dumping rounds faster than anything out there. His rationing was that it's better to hit something than to miss with a big gun.

Hope that wasn't to long for everyone.

[5.56 SS109]

Any idea what caused the XD to jam?

My bet is that it is on the shitty springs those Croatians put in the magazines, but it might be something else.

Also.

No GLOCKs in that class?

[blue_monday]

no idea on why the XD jammed. The guy was using good looking brass cased fmj rounds too. Nope, no glocks, no 1911's either.

[blue_monday]

I'd like to say that if anyone decides to build an AR from a kit DO NOT go through model 1 sales. I just got an email, my kit has been delayed for the 3rd time, which fucking sucks seeing as i ordered it December 31st. Customer service is almost nonexistant, and you can not reach them over the phone except for maybe 1 out of every 100 times you call.

Then again, maybe its the obama scare
/rant

[LavaRed]

I'd like to say that if anyone decides to build an AR from a kit DO NOT go through model 1 sales. I just got an email, my kit has been delayed for the 3rd time, which fucking sucks seeing as i ordered it December 31st. Customer service is almost nonexistant, and you can not reach them over the phone except for maybe 1 out of every 100 times you call.

Then again, maybe its the obama scare
/rant

thanks for the heads up. I'll be sure to pass it on to my RL friends in the US.

[blue_monday]

I just got another email back, model 1's say's it won't get shipped for 2-3 weeks, and that they're just getting to orders on the 19th. They said they'd gotten to orders from the 2n'd about a month ago.:mad:

[Kyoki]

I think I have my adventure with the sword and the nudity saved somewhere if you guys want a repost. I've seen mention of it a few times so I thought I'd ask.

[The Savage]

Aye a repost would be good :) .

I wonder if anyone has the HIFH posts? I have "What to do after a shooting" "List of range stereotypes" and i think the "SWAT Midget" somewhere.

[5.56 SS109]

Aye a repost would be good :) .

I wonder if anyone has the HIFH posts? I have "What to do after a shooting" "List of range stereotypes" and i think the "SWAT Midget" somewhere.

I don't know man.

The more I think about it, the more I believe HIFH was the most successful troll in W&C history.

I know that's almost blasphemy, but meh.

[reggie_love]

I don't know man.

The more I think about it, the more I believe HIFH was the most successful troll in W&C history.

I know that's almost blasphemy, but meh.

Yeah, I always wondered about that. Maybe he was just some very erudite 12 year old posting amusing stories to strangers.

On the other hand, he had some pretty sweet TRG pics...

[The Savage]

If HIFH was a troll, he was EPIC. Think about it he was a member for what at least 2 or 3 years? and no one ever suspected him, plus he showed a good knowledge of firearms, ammo ect.

He would of had to of been in his 20's or 30's either way IMHO.

Maybe RL and HIFH are the same person, and now RL's had a mental breakdown about the loss of "jack", i mean HIFH, and has shot himself in the mouth although missed and taken out his brain base?

[LavaRed]

If HIFH was a troll, he was EPIC. Think about it he was a member for what at least 2 or 3 years? and no one ever suspected him, plus he showed a good knowledge of firearms, ammo ect.

He would of had to of been in his 20's or 30's either way IMHO.

Maybe RL and HIFH are the same person, and now RL's had a mental breakdown about the loss of "jack", i mean HIFH, and has shot himself in the mouth although missed and taken out his brain base?

I don't think either are trolls, or the same person.

I'm afraid for RL's safety tho, given his line of work. I haven't seen him on msn for almost 4 months either. I do hope he's ok. Maybe he's just deeply infiltrated.

RL, if you're reading this, do give us a life sign will you? You're starting to worry us.
Thank you.

[Kyoki]

I don't think anyone realises how much time HIFH spent on Totse. When Bobsled built that usage tracker, HIFH was spending several hours of every day online, either lurking or posting. The tracker checked every ten minutes to make sure you were active, so it wasn't just a webpage left open.

[The Savage]

Interesting. If he was i wish he'd come back to do the Bel-air lyrics or something.

Anyone remember that Edward Taylor for totse a few years back? Right up till the last page of his hitman thread when he burst into the bel-air song it was impossible to tell for sure if he was bull shitting or not, you suspected it but you couldn't be certain. IMO that was the best i have seen. Considering i never suspected HIFH and i doubt anyone else did while he was here, that would be a whole new level of epic. Maybe we can get one of the egg heads from T&T to track him down and then send him a trophy...maybe with a little something extra from the BB guys :D .

[LavaRed]

I don't think anyone realises how much time HIFH spent on Totse. When Bobsled built that usage tracker, HIFH was spending several hours of every day online, either lurking or posting. The tracker checked every ten minutes to make sure you were active, so it wasn't just a webpage left open.

I don't want to believe he was a troll, yet, so I'll wonder and assume that he just left his comp on with &T on it, like lots of us do at times.

But if he was a troll, he was at the top of his game, and left at the top before being made.

But I still don't want to believe it, yet.

[Random_Looney]

I'm a troll. Still alive!

[LavaRed]

Hey old friend!
Its so good to see you back!
Since we can't ask where have you been, I'll just say, how's it going? :D

[Random_Looney]

It's been a mixed bag. I like to think HIFH was not a troll. He effectively argued against enough Armed Forces personnel that I think he would have been outed were he not a noncommissioned officer. Plus, as horrible as it is to think (and despite the fact I think divorce should prevent one from active duty activation and overseas assignment on psychological grounds), it's not difficult to imagine someone in his position, in what we all seemed to believe was a healthy marriage, apparently caught off guard... not coming back.

[LavaRed]

I'm happy to see you're all well.

I don't want to be judgemental about it. But ever since the wife started hanging out with Mrs. Butch Lesbian and other assorted friends, the writing, somehow, appeared on the wall.

I always thought HIFH was a sergeant too for some reason. I don't think he brought it up tho.

[The Savage]

Damn, he's back. That blows my Michael Jackson theory i was working on out of the water :( .

wb RL :D .

[Random_Looney]

Apparently, knives are under scrutiny in the US.
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38651&highlight=Manix

[Random_Looney]

I might get on MSN Friday for everyone on here I talk with.

In case you still love me.

[ZX9R]

I don't want to be judgemental about it. But ever since the wife started hanging out with Mrs. Butch Lesbian and other assorted friends, the writing, somehow, appeared on the wall.

Your wife was converted into dikedom?

[LavaRed]

Your wife was converted into dikedom?

Fortunately no. I'm talking about HIFH's wife. From his last stories we can deduce that she was hanging out with her lesbian friend (who HIFH punched in the tit), and so that's when the writing started to show on the wall, for him.

[Mephistos Minion]

RL: Friday white time/time zone? I'm keen for a chat, just need to sort out the time difference to here in Aus.

[Random_Looney]

Unfortunately, I'm not sure. I might go pick up a snub nose at some point in the day. It all hinges upon that.

[ZX9R]

Fortunately no. I'm talking about HIFH's wife. From his last stories we can deduce that she was hanging out with her lesbian friend (who HIFH punched in the tit), and so that's when the writing started to show on the wall, for him.

I see.

I'm not really up to date on breaking news here I guess.



Bisexual / lesbian chicks are nothing but trouble.

Hope it works out for him.

[LavaRed]

I see.

I'm not really up to date on breaking news here I guess.



Bisexual / lesbian chicks are nothing but trouble.

Hope it works out for him.

I don't know if his wife was bi.

According to his stories, the lesbian woman was a high school friend of his wife.

So I was thinking more along the lines of the re-acquaintance having brought Mrs. HIFH into contact with radical feminist ideals.

But one never knows. ;)

Its true tho. Bi chics, like bi men and TS women, have too much emotional distress.

[ilovechronic]

no idea on why the XD jammed. The guy was using good looking brass cased fmj rounds too. Nope, no glocks, no 1911's either.

i bet you that everyone of them that had problems was one of the noobs guns. I say that because if they dont know how to shoot they probably do not know how to properly maintain and lubricate their weapons.

I bet you over half of them never dissasembled their guns or put a few drops of oil in them, except you i hope.

[blue_monday]

i bet you that everyone of them that had problems was one of the noobs guns. I say that because if they dont know how to shoot they probably do not know how to properly maintain and lubricate their weapons.

I bet you over half of them never dissasembled their guns or put a few drops of oil in them, except you i hope.

That's probably the cause of most of it. I personally clean and care for my guns very well, but most of these guys seemed like they'd bought them the week before or had bought them and put little to no rounds through them, and none were familiar with their guns.

[blue_monday]

Well, after waiting since Dec. 31st to get my AR kit from model one sales it came in today. Only problem is that i got a regular bolt and carrier when i ordered a chrome. Fucking christ these people are incompetent. I emailed them about it so it'll take a few days with how their service is to get a reply.

[5.56 SS109]

For, my nigga, The Swede :D

Because you suck, and we hate you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1030.jpg

ACOG BUIS, tritium front sight:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1032.jpg

Single stack mag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1036.jpg

Charging handle:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1039.jpg

Gas piston:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1037.jpg

Bolts pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1042.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1043.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1041.jpg

Recoil spring/Trigger housing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1044.jpg

TOTSE shot :D :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1040.jpg

[ZX9R]

Its true tho. Bi chics, like bi men and TS women, have too much emotional distress.

Every bisexual girl I met had the same philosophy...

"I will probably not be open to a three some."

"You are not allowed to mess around with other girls."

"I will however probably mess around with other girls behind your back -- it's okay for me to do so -- but not for you."




They can be fun to date.
They can be fun to fuck.

But I would never get seriously involved or attached to a bi chick. =/

[The Swede]

I like what i see, thanks.

[ZX9R]

Found this on another site.

Way too funny...

http://2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=139196&stc=1&d=1197424797


Note:

The forty caliber pistol kB'ed in the guys hand. =)

[blue_monday]

Final words from model 1 sales today: I'm not going to be getting my chrome bolt and carrier, they were so back ordered that they are using all their time to chrome the barrels, but they refunded my money. Still, this is bullshit, i feel cheated:mad:. I'll be putting together my kit sometime in the next week or so when i get the time, I may or may not provide assembly pics but i'll defiantly show the final product of 7 and a half months of waiting:mad:
fuck model 1:mad:

[5.56 SS109]

Everyone I have spoken to about AR kits has told me that Del-Ton is the way to go.

I heard that Double Star makes excellent kits too.

But what do I know, I'm an AK nerd :D

[ZX9R]

Final words from model 1 sales today: I'm not going to be getting my chrome bolt and carrier, they were so back ordered that they are using all their time to chrome the barrels, but they refunded my money. Still, this is bullshit, i feel cheated:mad:. I'll be putting together my kit sometime in the next week or so when i get the time, I may or may not provide assembly pics but i'll defiantly show the final product of 7 and a half months of waiting:mad:
fuck model 1:mad:

Heh.

I wonder if they collected any interest off of your money?

[jodevilgod1]

Sucks about model 1 sales. I have never dealt with them.

Ive been buying from www.bravocompanyusa.com lately.

I also thought about the chrome BCG, but went with the Failzero unit instead. Im pretty happy with it thus far. Shot 500 rounds with no lube out of a BCM upper reciever.

[Random_Looney]

I had good experiences with BravoCompany in the past.

Also, if anyone notices I'm not around, it's because a close former friend of mine died unexpectedly.

[LavaRed]

I had good experiences with BravoCompany in the past.

Also, if anyone notices I'm not around, it's because a close former friend of mine died unexpectedly.

I'm sorry to hear that. May he rest in peace.

[ZX9R]

08/04

BREAKING STORY

PITTSBURGH — A Pittsburgh television station reports four people are dead after a shooting at a suburban health club, including the shooter.

KDKA's report says the killings were at the L.A. Fitness Center in Bridgeville.

Allegheny County police and the medical examiner's office won't confirm that to The Associated Press.

A witness tells the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette newspaper she was in an exercise class when a man came in a back door and started shooting. Ashley Ogordowski says a friend of hers was among the wounded.

Gym member Lauren Dooley tells the Post-Gazette she heard 12 to 15 shots.



Shooters diary,

http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm





Too bad he got the order wrong,

He should have shot himself first. :mad:

[blue_monday]

The link's dead or something.

I got a charter arms 38 special today! I wouldn't have bought it but it was up for a good price, now i just gotta go reload some 38's.

Speaking of reloading, anyone shoot 220 swift? I bought a number 11 rcbs shell holder thinking it'd be the same as a lee #11 holder for my 44. I'd give it to anyone who wanted it.

[ZX9R]

Just earlier today I got in to a discussion with a business aquaintance.

"I don't see the need for privately owned firearms."

"Just cooperate with the criminal -- never fight back."

"They just want your car, wallet, or your valuables -- items which could likely be sold for drugs."

Were a few general statements.




Then I came across this,

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304496,00.html

NEW HAVEN, Conn. — The suspects in a deadly home invasion in Cheshire poured gasoline on and around a mother and two daughters, then set their house on fire and fled, according to search warrants released by a judge Tuesday.

The 11 heavily edited warrants provide the first official version of the events of July 23. Jennifer Hawke-Petit, and her daughters, Hayley, 17, and Michaela, 11, were killed. Hawke-Petit's husband, Dr. William Petit, was badly beaten but escaped.

Investigators found traces of rope-like material around the ankles of all three victims and tied to the two girls' wrists and bedposts, according to the warrants. They also found three partially melted one-gallon gas containers.

"One of the deceased was burned beyond recognition, with indications that an accelerant was liberally poured on her," investigators wrote in a search warrant. "The remaining two victims appeared to have some indication of accelerant being poured onto or in close proximity to them, but not to the same degree as the other victim."

Hawke-Petit was strangled and the two girls died of smoke inhalation, according to the medical examiner.

Paroled burglars Joshua Komisarjevsky, 27, of Cheshire, and Steven Hayes, 44, of Winsted, both face capital felony and multiple murder, kidnapping, sexual assault and arson charges in connection with the killings.

They are scheduled to appear Nov. 6 in Superior Court for probable cause hearings.

An attorney for The Hartford Courant argued last month for the release of the documents. Prosecutors did not object to unsealing the warrants, but defense attorneys said coverage of their contents would make it difficult to find impartial jurors for their client's trials.

Last week, Superior Court Judge Richard Damiani agreed to release edited versions of the warrants. Defense attorneys did not appeal.

"I don't think there is anything new that hasn't been previously disclosed," said Thomas Ullmann, the public defender representing Hayes. He declined further comment.

Police say Komisarjevsky and Hayes entered the home about 3 a.m. July 23, planning to burglarize it. When they found the family home, they beat Dr. Petit, then tied up his wife and daughters.

Authorities were tipped off that the family was in danger by employees at a local bank when one of the suspects forced Hawke-Petit to make a withdrawal around 9:30 a.m. Bank employees became suspicious and called police, who drove to the Petit home.

The suspects were caught in the family's car after ramming several cruisers as they fled the burning home, which they allegedly torched to cover their tracks. Dr. Petit escaped to a neighbor's house.

Police searched a car registered to Komisarjevsky's mother and found a package for a BB gun, duct tape, a Lowe's Home Improvement store receipt, flexible ties and different types of gloves, according to the warrants.

In another car, they found Dr. Petit's wallet, his wife's wallet, two pearl necklaces and a red, blood-like stain.

The warrants also allowed police to test various items for traces of blood, saliva and semen.

A seventeen and eleven year old burned alive. :rant:

The death sentence...
Or life in prison...

Is not even remotely satisfactory punishment for these two criminals.

[The Savage]

I thought you guys would be interested in this so I'll share.

Some times we hear things about how shooting can be bad for our health because of airborne lead and exposure to lead in general As some of you know, I go through a fair few rounds a year (around 2500 centerfire rounds in the last 12 months with a few thousand .22's mixed in), I some times shoot & I often clean in poorly ventilated areas and load most of my own ammo. So i went to the Doc a few weeks back and while he was taking blood I asked him to check my lead levels mainly out of interest. Turns out it's fine. So unless you spend your days placing charges and clearing rooms I'm going to say you have more chance of catching deer flu and dieing than getting sick from lead exposure.

[The Savage]

So, Check out what my cat killed last night and lovingly dumped at my backdoor:

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/The_Savage762/DSC01057.jpg

I forgot to add a scale, but it's about the size of a full grown cat or ~12" tall. I guess that make him a big game hunter :D .

[5.56 SS109]

gufghbvnbhjg

[ZX9R]

Not bad.

One hundred for a level iii strike plate (NIB) is pretty good deal.

[talonner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Nzmvgj4LI

[Kyoki]

I'm keen to get out of the country for a bit at the end of the year... Any ideas? Budget is about $5000AUD/$4000USD.

One friend is suggesting I paratroop my way across Japan with him, another that I visit her in Colombia. The list goes on and on.

Anyone been somewhere they'd highly recommend?

[5.56 SS109]

If anyone is looking for some plates, this place has stand alone Level IIIs for $100 a pop. Unlike most "stand alone" plates that are uncoated, these ones are coated with Line-X (kind of like that Rhino Lining stuff for truck beds) to protect against bullet fragments from the impact.

http://www.expertguns.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=28%A0osCsid=adaa1d866b51d3b042f36011f7 923493

I just got my two today (9.5x12.5) and I'm impressed. They are much lighter than I though they would be.

I'm just waiting on the carrier and I'll be set.

Some people aren't happy that these don't stop 5.56 M193, however, they stop commercial .223 and 5.56 M855. I didn't really buy these for protection against rifles, I bought them because I know for sure that their protection level is higher than any soft vest I could get and that they are much more durable than Kevlar. Realistically, most street thugs are armed with pistols, so if these can stop 7.62x29, they will damn sure stop 9x19.


Anyway, just letting you guys know about a good deal in case anyone is interested.

Pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/Hydrashock/DSCN1035.jpg

[talonner]

When Carleen left Tasmania some weeks ago she was unaware that others
had recently spoken out on behalf of her son, most prominent being
Brigadier Ted Serong DSO OBE, the former head of Australian Forces in
Vietnam and one of the world’s leading experts on counter-terrorist
techniques and their application. In an interview with Frank Robson in
the Sydney Morning Herald on 10 April 1999, Brigadier Serong makes it
plain that Martin Bryant could not have been responsible for the mass
murder at Port Arthur. "There was an almost satanic accuracy to that
shooting performance" he says. "Whoever did it is better than I am,
and there are not too many people around here better than I am". He
continues "Whoever did it had skills way beyond anything that could
reasonably be expected of this chap Bryant ... if it was someone of
only average skills, there would have been many less killed and many
more wounded. It was the astonishing proportion of killed to wounded
that made me open my eyes first off." Brigadier Serong believes more
than one person was involved and directly infers that the mass murder
at Port Arthur was a terrorist action designed to undermine Australian
national security. "It was part of a deliberate attempt to disarm the
population, but I don’t believe John Howard or his Government were
involved. Howard is being led down a track. He doesn’t know where it’s
leading, and he doesn’t much care..."

Some readers might consider that as a soldier Brigadier Serong is not
qualified to comment on police matters, but they would be wrong. In
addition to his acknowledged military achievements he also raised,
trained, organised and directed a police force larger than all the
police forces in Australia combined. After returning to Australia, as
he notes in his book Defence of Australia Analysis: "I did gently but
firmly decline a suggestion that I be Victoria’s Chief Commissioner of
Police." Brigadier Ted Serong is thus far better qualified to comment
on the chain of events at Port Arthur than the current commissioner of
the Tasmanian Police Service, who commands a total force of less than
one thousand men, none of whom has any knowledge of international
terrorism or practical experience of counter-terrorist techniques.

...

Either he was a sleeper and is only reported to be in solitary confinement and is now part of a secret unit, or he didn't do it.

[talonner]

http://www.aresdefense.com/03a-brochure-c.jpg

[talonner]

I'm keen to get out of the country for a bit at the end of the year... Any ideas? Budget is about $5000AUD/$4000USD.

One friend is suggesting I paratroop my way across Japan with him, another that I visit her in Colombia. The list goes on and on.

Anyone been somewhere they'd highly recommend?

Are either of those good ideas?

Do you mean paratroop as in switch-on or as in going parachuting around the country?

Could be good for glitch making though.

[Barney'sDealer]

http://www.aresdefense.com/03a-brochure-c.jpg

NICE
:thumbsup:

[AdMech]

I don't know as much about guns as I thought I did, perhaps. What gun would you say this is?

http://ilovedust.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hellokittygun.jpg

I said AR-15 or one of its variants due to the in-line stock and general look of the gun, but the... upper receiver(?) doesn't look like the usual thing you see on AR-15s, or at least that I have.

[5.56 SS109]

I don't know as much about guns as I thought I did, perhaps. What gun would you say this is?

http://ilovedust.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hellokittygun.jpg

I said AR-15 or one of its variants due to the in-line stock and general look of the gun, but the... upper receiver(?) doesn't look like the usual thing you see on AR-15s, or at least that I have.

Just looks like a pink Duracoated flat-top HBAR AR15 with a rail system.

Also looks like they have an RRA Entry Stock mounted to a spacer at the rear for a shorter length of pull.

[ZX9R]

Hello Kitty AR15!!

Very nice. :D




I wonder how much they were asking for the rifle?

[Kyoki]

Do you mean paratroop as in switch-on or as in going parachuting around the country?


Think less sanitary...

[blue_monday]

good news! model 1 sent me a brand new complete chrome bolt and carrier in the mail! idk if they charged me for it yet though, i'll have to wait for the credit card statement. If they don't want the old one back i'll keep it around for when my dad or brother build a kit and put the chrome one in my AR, but not until then. No use having two used b&c's.

[ZX9R]

http://www.bradycenter.org/donate/events/2006/losangeles/images/stallone-mac.jpg

While attending an anti gun rally...

He was rumored to say,

"Hi, my name is slyvester stallone and I make movies glorifying gun violence but do not support your right to own a firearm. I have a concealed weapons permit issued by the state of california (which are hard to get unless you are someone important like me) -- but my life is worth defending and yours is not."

[talonner]

Hip, no?

[reggie_love]

So, I moved to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. It's kind of a temporary deal but I'm gonna be here for a year or so.

I'm trying to find FFL dealers and places where I can get accessories. (I want all the hi-cap mags I can get, lolz). Google gave me kinda 'heh' results, and when I tried the yellow pages was a little hard to find anything useful.

Anybody local on this forum wanna help me out? Any information on local shooting things, as well as any pertinent municipal laws (I already know the state ones pretty well) would be greatly appreciated.

[LavaRed]

So, I moved to the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. It's kind of a temporary deal but I'm gonna be here for a year or so.

I'm trying to find FFL dealers and places where I can get accessories. (I want all the hi-cap mags I can get, lolz). Google gave me kinda 'heh' results, and when I tried the yellow pages was a little hard to find anything useful.

Anybody local on this forum wanna help me out? Any information on local shooting things, as well as any pertinent municipal laws (I already know the state ones pretty well) would be greatly appreciated.

Congratulations and welcome to the free world. Or what's left of it.

[ZX9R]

Option...

You should have told me you were selling your XD.

I would have probably picked it up from you. :(



Out of curiosity -- what was the final price on that?

[asilentbob]

Got to handle a russian mosin nagant for the first time a couple days ago along with some modern 9mm ruger and a pretty old .30 colt with a beautiful well-used finish? I dunno. They were all beautiful though.

EDIT: not .30, but looking on a colt site, i think the pistol was a 1903 or 1908 hammerless... hmm... I wish I had gotten a better look.
EDIT2: the ruger was definatly a SR9 9mm. I remember the rubber along the back of the handle. A sexy dark green I think it was.

[blue_monday]

i've wanted a colt 1903 since i saw one for the first time.

[reggie_love]

What happened to Random_Looney?

And does anybody remember Mokothar? Where'd he end up?

[The Savage]

Fruck knows what Random_Looney is doing, got a PM about the same time he was last here but he never said what was happening. Might be time to start making up roomers, Like i heard that he was actually Michael Jackson, and now he's hiding out in Burma pretty close to where Elvis spent some time after he "died". Since he can't risk being compromised he's had to stop posting for a while till the heat dies down. Let's just pray he isn't around any small children.

Then again I heard another version from a reliable source that says he accidentally killed two Korean hookers and their midget pimp in a cheap motel in new mexico and had to make a dash for Argentina.

[5.56 SS109]

Well, I heard Random Looney was actually Kanye West.

He went into hiding after taking the microphone from Taylor Swift at the VMAs because all those angry country music fans want him dead.

[LavaRed]

I think given the current world situation R_L is pretty busy with work. Or maybe his dream became true and he finally became a mall security guard. I remember that was his cherished ambition. I just hope he's safe.

I wonder if HIFH will ever come back tho.

[The Savage]

I reloaded 370 rounds of .223 today. I really need to find some surplus 5.56 or buy a progressive press :( .

[The Swede]

Went shooting with the Homeguard today, shot some AK4b(g3a3) and P88(Glock17), all jolly good!

[blue_monday]

I reloaded 370 rounds of .223 today. I really need to find some surplus 5.56 or buy a progressive press :( .

all that on a single stage?ouch.

[Daily]

I want to suck a cock.

[Raziel]

8998are9pugu98aperpu98gapu98ruaewgup9rwup98ae98pfu p89vuparp9u8br

[ZX9R]

I want to suck a cock.

I'm certain you'll achieve that goal.


Good luck to you.

[Daily]

I'm certain you'll achieve that goal.


Good luck to you.

Thanks a lot bra.

[Raziel]

Aint no bra where you goin to suck.

[The Savage]

What do you think the outcome would be if you were put a can of spray paint or deodorant in the microwave on 'high'? Blow the door off? would it be likely to fuck up my power/fuses?

I'm open to other suggestions.

[The Swede]

I smell an explosion coming..

Movies & pix!

[The Savage]

I hope so! :D

I actually had much grander plans for it however the powers that be have thrown a wrench in the works, so i'll have to settle for a spray can and maybe a box of 12ga :( .

Probably do it this weekend if nothing else pops up.

[Hydroponichronic]

Hey guys. I have a quick question I didn't really want to make a thread for. Assuming you had some quality wood, appropriate tools, and some basic woodworking skills, could you make a stock for a rifle? Not something fancy or fully auto (m16 variants, AK's, etc) Just say an old bolt-action hunting rifle. I guess what it comes down to is, is there more to stock making that there appears to be?

Thanks

[LavaRed]

Yes you can. Even for fancier guns like AK's and AR's. You just need to be a bit practiced at working wood.
I suppose it would just take a lot of patience.

[5.56 SS109]

Hey guys. I have a quick question I didn't really want to make a thread for. Assuming you had some quality wood, appropriate tools, and some basic woodworking skills, could you make a stock for a rifle? Not something fancy or fully auto (m16 variants, AK's, etc) Just say an old bolt-action hunting rifle. I guess what it comes down to is, is there more to stock making that there appears to be?

Thanks

Actually I believe it would be more difficult to make a stock for a bolt action rifle that it would for an AR or an AK.

The action of a bolt action rifle directly interfaces with the stock, so the fit and in letting needs to be more precise.

[ZX9R]

Producing a stock for the AR15 (for most of them) would be a bit more complicated considering the buffer / spring tube assembly works in tandem with the stock -- compressing in to the stock after each pull of the trigger.

[The Savage]

Hey guys. I have a quick question I didn't really want to make a thread for. Assuming you had some quality wood, appropriate tools, and some basic woodworking skills, could you make a stock for a rifle? Not something fancy or fully auto (m16 variants, AK's, etc) Just say an old bolt-action hunting rifle. I guess what it comes down to is, is there more to stock making that there appears to be?

Thanks

My uncle has made a couple for Lever actions, I have a nice walnut stock he made for a Winchester 94/22 around her somewhere. I think the in letting would be the biggest problem for a bolt action stock. Keeping everything symmetrical takes more skill than I have but it can be done and i'm sure there are tricks to it I've just never learned. If you're not overly skilled you could always do all the shaping: butt, pistol grip, fore-end ect and take it to a stock maker to get it inletted, then finish it yourself, it would probably save you a couple of hundred.

Also i'd suggest getting a blank of pine or something cheap to practice on, depending on the kind of wood you could loose a lot of money if you screw up. It's been a long ass time since i looked into it but higher grade walnut blanks can sell for $200 - $500 IIRC. Also make sure the wood is dense enough to withstand the recoil or you'll get cracks very quickly. Not a prob if you're doing a .22 or .223 but if it's something with a lot of recoil (dangerous game rifle for example) you'll need strong dense wood and maybe a cross bolt or two.

Make a thread of your progress if you go ahead with it :) .

[5.56 SS109]

Producing a stock for the AR15 (for most of them) would be a bit more complicated considering the buffer / spring tube assembly works in tandem with the stock -- compressing in to the stock after each pull of the trigger.

The buffer/spring combination doesn't touch anything outside of the buffer tube.

I figured all that would need to be done is hollowing out a cavity in the stock so it slides around the buffer tube.

[Hydroponichronic]

Thanks a lot guys. All I needed to know. :thumbsup:

[ZX9R]

The buffer/spring combination doesn't touch anything outside of the buffer tube.

I figured all that would need to be done is hollowing out a cavity in the stock so it slides around the buffer tube.

Indeed.

It functions inside -- which would make it more challenging to produce the stock?








Funny photo of the day,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01406/Glock-pistols_1406927i.jpg

[Cloaked Dagger]

Funny photo of the day,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01406/Glock-pistols_1406927i.jpg

So many things wrong with that picture.

[5.56 SS109]

Indeed.

It functions inside -- which would make it more challenging to produce the stock?








Funny photo of the day,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01406/Glock-pistols_1406927i.jpg

I figured it would be easy, because the stock body slides over the buffer tube like a glove.

[ZX9R]

So many things wrong with that picture.

Indeed.

I believe it's from a convention (SHOT SHOW) in HK.



I figured it would be easy, because the stock body slides over the buffer tube like a glove.

Perhaps?

I'd probably cut an arm off trying to hollow out a stock for the buffer / spring assembly.





I got a F in wood shop. :D

[The Savage]

Guys, I want you to meet Ted.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/The_Savage762/DSC01240.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/The_Savage762/DSC01243.jpg

I'm gonna try and keep him, hopefully he doesn't get bent out of shape over the whole "imprisonment" thing and kills himself like the last one did.

[5.56 SS109]

Guys, I want you to meet Ted.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/The_Savage762/DSC01243.jpg

I'm gonna try and keep him, hopefully he doesn't get bent out of shape over the whole "imprisonment" thing and kills himself like the last one did.

I LOLed at this pic.

Do you actually expect anyone but you to know how large that coin is for size reference? :D

[The Savage]

Australians should be able to work it out since it's probably the most common coin in circulation. I couldn't find any quarters or dimes in my wallet (possibly due to not using US currency) so a 5 cent coin had to do.

God help you if you can't figger out the size from this:
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/The_Savage762/100_1813.jpg

[The Swede]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_5_cent_coin

Diameter 19.41 mm

[Mephistos Minion]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/soph.jpg

Even though its a toy, I think I better teach my girlfriend about propper firearm handling soon, before we move in with her (we being me and my guns).

[Cloaked Dagger]

Australians should be able to work it out since it's probably the most common coin in circulation. I couldn't find any quarters or dimes in my wallet (possibly due to not using US currency) so a 5 cent coin had to do.

God help you if you can't figger out the size from this:
http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu137/The_Savage762/100_1813.jpg

Thank you for posting something universal to all countries however, it is difficult to tell with 100% certainly what caliber rifle cartridges those are. However I believe with reasonable certainty that the smaller one is .223/5.56 having seen thousands of them. Which would make the larger round... .308?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/mephistosminion/soph.jpg

Even though its a toy, I think I better teach my girlfriend about propper firearm handling soon, before we move in with her (we being me and my guns).

Indeed you will, teach her how to actually shoot while you are at it. Asside from her poor gun handling she's very attractive though.

[The Savage]

Damn Mephistos she's pretty hot....That filter makes me think chopper read is gonna pop out at any second tho :D .

Cloaked, are you screwing with me? :p

[Cloaked Dagger]

Cloaked, are you screwing with me? :p

No, I'm not actually, without something of known size in the picture to judge by then it can actually be quite difficult identifying a cartridge from a picture unless they have something very distinctive about them. 5.56, .308, and even .50BMG all look quite similar without some sort of referance for size as they have about the same shape only scaled up as the rounds get larger. The closer you hold a camera to an object(or more you zoom in) the large it appears, and vice-versa. At least I'm not very confident in my judgement as to what the rounds were, was I correct? Or am I way off?

[ZX9R]

Agreed.

Measurable (known) reference helps.

[The Savage]

.223 Rem 55gr FMJ

.308 Win 178gr A-MAX

It's a tiny scorpion but not deadly. They hurt like a bitch and make you swell up when they bite.

[Cloaked Dagger]

.223 Rem 55gr FMJ

.308 Win 178gr A-MAX

It's a tiny scorpion but not deadly. They hurt like a bitch and make you swell up when they bite.

So I was right. Damn I'm good.

And don't you mean sting instead of bite?

[5.56 SS109]

I LOLed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfxY59V6bgU

[@@@]

http://www.saysuncle.com/2009/10/20/which-one-are-you/#more-30048

didn't HIFH write this?

[The Savage]

Indeed he did.

In other news i killed a whole new species yesterday! :) Head shot a calf from about 20m with a .223.

[Iolite]

CBLCMoMMcDI
my m44 fireball, I'm sad that my girl didn't get the full shot on the first few huge ones...

[ilovechronic]

CBLCMoMMcDI
my m44 fireball, I'm sad that my girl didn't get the full shot on the first few huge ones...

niice look like your range needs to up their fee a little and get some liighting out there.

[The Swede]

Hey Lava, get on msn more often:p

5.56, msn?
Groundhog, msn?

PM me.

[Cloaked Dagger]

Hey Lava, get on msn more often:p

5.56, msn?
Groundhog, msn?

PM me.

Or better yet the IRC channel: #w&c on slashnet

[The Savage]

In other news, i scored another 50 or 60 kills last night in around 3 hours, Took my M44 for a run along with the 7615 since it hasn't been used in a while and knocked off 5 or 6 with it, including a possum from around 20y. That's over 100 kills this week :) .

Once i find my camera cable (Painted the inside of my house so nothing is where it should be) i'll post some pics. First shot at the possum i thought i missed but actually punched a 7.62mm hole through the middle of it's left ear, second round went up it's arse and out it's chest :D .

[Kyoki]

http://hero-gear.com/?p=565

[Cloaked Dagger]

http://hero-gear.com/?p=565

Lol at the battle mug.

[blue_monday]

http://hero-gear.com/?p=565

i would buy one for the lulz factor but holy fuck! $279? how do they expect to sell them?

Edit:fuck this shit! i'll make one. Where's my epoxy...

[Mephistos Minion]

Wait, so it doesnt attatch to a weapons system, you just attatch a carry handle for the drinking handle? Whats the point? Wouldnt a MOLLE compatible version be better? Made of high strength low weight polymer, that can attatch to a plate carrier somewhere out of the way?

What am I saying? Issued cups canteen all the way!

[The Savage]

I did an ammo count last night, Turns out i have 3,498 rounds Half of which is .22LR's the rest is made up of .223, .308, 7.62R & 12ga.

[5.56 SS109]

Savage and Mephistos,

Is it true Zoklet is going to be on a list of banned websites in Australia?

If so, are you guys still going to be able to get on here?

[The Savage]

I dunno, It really wouldn't surprise me. There was a leaked blacklist that come out a while ago and i don't recall zoklet.net being on there but didn't really look hard at it and no doubt there have been many more additions made since then. Hopefully something simple like a web based proxy will get around it anyway.

"Hell in a handbasket" comes to mind.

[The Swede]

Merry? Christmas.

[5.56 SS109]

Anything that involves me getting a few Colt USGI mags w/ Magpul followers is considered merry in my book :D

[LavaRed]

Meery christmas to all of you guys!

[reggie_love]

I dunno, It really wouldn't surprise me. There was a leaked blacklist that come out a while ago and i don't recall zoklet.net being on there but didn't really look hard at it and no doubt there have been many more additions made since then. Hopefully something simple like a web based proxy will get around it anyway.

"Hell in a handbasket" comes to mind.

Totse.com was on the blacklist, but not zoklet.

[Bender]

Thats good. I dont wanna miss you aussies.