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Dfg
02-13-2009, 05:06 PM
http://i.gizmodo.com/5153109/if-pirate-bay-is-shut-down-it-could-take-all-of-bittorrent-with-it <--Link

he operators of Pirate Bay are standing trial in Stockholm next week. Yikes, I know, but here's the scariest part: if Pirate Bay falls, it could be big trouble for BitTorrent as a whole.

P2P researchers crunched the numbers and found that the Pirate Bay's eight servers are responsible for tracking over 50% of the internet's torrents. Should the Pirate Bay be shut down, the burden then placed on the next-largest BitTorrent trackers would likely overwhelm them, causing a chain reaction that could bring the whole torrenting infrastructure to its knees.

Now, this is not good in anyway. I hope Piratebay continues to serve otherwise my torrents are fucked big time.
:(
AdamSmokesCrack
02-13-2009, 05:12 PM
This fucking sucks.
It's not about the enjoyment people get from the shit they download via torrents, it's about lining their pockets as much as possible.
I mean, I'd be pissed if I was being ripped of by tons of people because of some website/software, but these guys bringing lawsuits are the kind that would be filthy rich even WITH piracy the way it is now.
Mutant Funk Drink
02-13-2009, 05:25 PM
Fuck this. I hope it continues, like it has in the past when they've had to pull something out of their asses to get through. But maybe it's the beginning of the end. :(
kelsokid18
02-13-2009, 05:27 PM
I admit, I'd be up shit crick without a paddle without TPB's servers.
i poop in your cereal
02-14-2009, 08:31 AM
lol

it is doing _nothing_ illegal, being in sweden and all. it can't actually lose.
Ford Prefect
02-14-2009, 08:40 AM
Haven't they already beat plenty of similar suits? Almost positive they have servers in other countries anyways.

FUCK that'd suck though.
Lao Tzu
02-14-2009, 08:45 AM
lol

it is doing _nothing_ illegal, being in sweden and all. it can't actually lose.

America is president of the world. They can do what they like where they like, and will.
i poop in your cereal
02-14-2009, 10:41 AM
America is president of the world. They can do what they like where they like, and will.

No.

EDIT: You underestimate the scandinavian hate of america.
Cir
02-14-2009, 10:48 AM
Well the sucessor to torrents is just starting to get off the ground...
The English Gentleman
02-14-2009, 03:47 PM
America is president of the world. They can do what they like where they like, and will.

Who knows maybe new information will prove the twin Towers was DDOS'ed by the Swedes, I mean apparently my internet piracy pays for terrorism:facepalm:
Angry Blue Bird of Death
02-14-2009, 03:54 PM
Well the sucessor to torrents is just starting to get off the ground...

It's been around for awhile...
PirateJoe
02-14-2009, 05:59 PM
Well the sucessor to torrents is just starting to get off the ground...

what
Lanny
02-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Man.. I cant lose TPB so soon after the fall of totse! I'm so fucked without TPB.
16bit
02-15-2009, 05:36 AM
Oh no! Oh wait I use demonoid.
bornkiller
02-15-2009, 07:02 AM
Oh no! Oh wait I use demonoid.
I just got back from demonoid and when I sign in it gives me exactly the same error message it did about a year ago when it first got shut down....:mad:
If anyone else could verify this for me I'd be grateful.
dedraic
02-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Demonoid's up and running fine.

I still hope TPB doesn't get shut down though...
Afromonk
02-15-2009, 04:52 PM
I use both.
But logically if TPB falls then i bet Demonoid gets more traffic.
Therefore more press and publicity.
And then Aids.

:(

This doesn't look good.
SUP4L337
02-15-2009, 04:53 PM
Demonoid and TPB suck once you start getting into private trackers.
NaiveMonarch
02-15-2009, 05:00 PM
Hurrbuzzwords.
There is no fucking chance the death of TPB will end BT.
Atlas
02-15-2009, 06:20 PM
i don't really see TPB going down anytime soon.
Afromonk
02-15-2009, 09:00 PM
Well personally no.
Especially when you look at their legal expertise over everyone else.
However one of their blog posts did account that they would start to dismantle if the supreme court ruled it so.
But then again they don't even know where their own servers are.
(They randomized them after the raids).

But still if TPB did go down then people will be sad.
bornkiller
02-15-2009, 09:35 PM
Demonoid's up and running fine.

I still hope TPB doesn't get shut down though...
Thanks for the update,:) still not workin fuck it all, :pissed_pirate:
metaphoria
02-15-2009, 09:39 PM
They've held their own pretty well in the past. I'm not TOO worried, but it still isn't a great thing to hear.
Yggdrasil
02-15-2009, 09:50 PM
I know they haven't been tried or anything, but I can't access TPB right now. Anyone else experiencing something similar?
ILTST9
02-15-2009, 09:53 PM
I know they haven't been tried or anything, but I can't access TPB right now. Anyone else experiencing something similar?

Down for me too.
bornkiller
02-15-2009, 10:02 PM
I know they haven't been tried or anything, but I can't access TPB right now. Anyone else experiencing something similar?Maybe the courts have forced them to lock the site until the case is settled.:confused:
Shit like this just makes me wanna go out and upload everything I've downloaded previously.:mad:
Yggdrasil
02-15-2009, 10:05 PM
Fucking hell...

My Internet seems faster than usual, but fucking PB has to go down when I want to torrent. :mad::mad:
PirateJoe
02-15-2009, 10:26 PM
Well the sucessor to torrents is just starting to get off the ground...

Can you elaborate on this "successor"?
crizzlE
02-15-2009, 10:31 PM
does this mean download as much as possible before the torrent world turns to shit?
Knight of Blackness
02-15-2009, 11:13 PM
Thought something like this happened. Sweden has got like the mildest upload/download laws in the world and the hate the US. TPB stated that they will dismantle if the Supreme Court rules against them. Don't take this harshly though. The Supreme Court is like the second appeal so there's still a long road to go. Beside that, if Sweden won't allow them to exist anymore, there's no other place for them to move so dismantling is their only option then.

If it comes down to it, I think all the trackers on TPB are to be cut off too. It would mean losing a lot of valueable data but it would preserve the other tracker servers.
Yggdrasil
02-16-2009, 12:06 AM
YESS!!

It's back up.

*commencing torrenting*
LostInTheWoods
02-16-2009, 06:16 PM
Thought something like this happened. Sweden has got like the mildest upload/download laws in the world and the hate the US. TPB stated that they will dismantle if the Supreme Court rules against them. Don't take this harshly though. The Supreme Court is like the second appeal so there's still a long road to go. Beside that, if Sweden won't allow them to exist anymore, there's no other place for them to move so dismantling is their only option then.

If it comes down to it, I think all the trackers on TPB are to be cut off too. It would mean losing a lot of valueable data but it would preserve the other tracker servers.

From what i have heard the owners of the piratebay have promised not to shut the site down no mather what the court rules, there are still countries out there that are suitible to host the site.

Since the raid the servers have been spread out all over the world and not even the owners claim to know where all of them are, so the only chance to close it down that i can see is ISPs being ordered to block DNS requests to the servers.


Now, on the subject of the trial i have been listening to the live feed and i can say that so far all the prosecution have produced as "evidence" is screenshots of torrent clients with traffic between random IPs and that the torrent was indeed trackered by the PirateBays tracker.

If they are found guilty, they will ofcource appeal to the next level of court and the whole affair could drag on for years...
zuperxtreme
02-16-2009, 06:24 PM
TPB isn't going down. If it does, it'll make A LOT of Internet superheros mad.

And the guy above me is right, even if they do rule against them, they'll appeal or just make a new website in another country. They aren't going down that easily.
Th0r
02-16-2009, 06:48 PM
I hope they have a fucking good contingency plan!
electric wizard
02-18-2009, 05:54 PM
Fucking hell. If you ask me, they oughta find a Norwegian friend and move the servers over there. Only a few hours' drive.
zuperxtreme
02-18-2009, 05:58 PM
They already had 50% of the charges dropped on the first day...

This isn't going to go anywhere...
Craigslist.org
02-18-2009, 06:24 PM
They already had 50% of the charges dropped on the first day...

This isn't going to go anywhere...

The record companys will still see the money they've been asking for according to the BBC. :(:mad:
iotaatoi09
02-18-2009, 06:46 PM
TPB is one of my favorites, it would be a day of defeat if they did go down. But fear not the underground is probably more widespread and resillient than insects.
i poop in your cereal
02-18-2009, 08:11 PM
Demonoid and TPB suck once you start getting into private trackers.

It's impossible to maintain a decent ratio on private trackers due to whores power seeding everything.
jheit8
02-18-2009, 09:13 PM
It's impossible to maintain a decent ratio on private trackers due to whores power seeding everything.

What is wrong with seeding?
But Yes, private trackers may have good download speeds, but they leave you open to criminal charges easier.
Gadooosh!
02-19-2009, 05:25 PM
No.

EDIT: You underestimate the rest of the worlds (minus mehico) hate of america.

fixed.
Craigslist.org
02-20-2009, 08:52 AM
pirate bay is 1 site. there are more of us fighting the man. :cool: